thoughts on rewilding and environmentalism?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPMXLVaTw00
>>539815870>thoughts on rewilding and environmentalism?It is a must, but not for performative clickbait, but for the sake of humanities advancement as a species and a return to the natural balance. If the environment suffers, we will suffer, if it thrives, we will thrive.You don't need a farm, nor even a garden to contribute either, be mindful, considerate and do your research, but start planting and seeding life everywhere around you.Seek out those places of rack, ruin and death and scatter a few seeds.
>>539815870It's called 绿化 and the Chinese are far and away the only competent people doing it and it's gigabased
>>539817393>the Chinese are far and away the only competent peopleThe same china that is the worlds biggest polluter of oceans, air, the environment and it's people? Laughable. The planet will likely never recover from the mess the chinese have made, their declining birth rate is a blessing to humanity.
>>539817569That would be India. China is the only one actively decreasing in emissions. I'm sure retards said the planet would never recover from the pollution caused by the industrial revolution too lol you will never be a superpower
>>539817811faggot china obsessed loser, move there and eat a pangolian
>>539817811The planet still doesn't recover from the industrial revolution...We used to have lakes
Everyone on /pol/ should be pro actual environmentalism.All the popular environmentalism on the left is just about taxes and resource control, if one wants to fight that being a contrarian faggot doesn't solve anything. To take wind out of their sails you need to provide genuine solutions to the masses that doesn't enable politicians to accumulate power.Reverting desertification is just that. All that is needed is low skilled labor in the third world, so dirt cheap.More vegitation coverage means less water runoff/evaporation, better albedo and for the carbon buzzword crowd it also accumulates it into the soil.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpTHi7O66pI
>>539817879China actually has strict immigration, not that you'd know anything about that. And grants citizenship based on bloodlines, not that you'd know anything about that either kek
>>539817914I'm sure the Australian jeet will say it's a blessing that White birth rates are going down then since they caused such damage
>>539818025>>539818053Incredible. What country is this in?
>>539818136This is the loess plateau in China which gave the Yellow River its name because of all the topsoil that ran off into it.And while there is many greenwashing and other bullshit in China I actually had a professor University who helped out with this and with the Green Wall project. Which in itself is another case study of what not to do. Miles and miles of the same clone that eventually got the same disease spread across it rapidly, but last I heard they finally stopped doing that
>>539817569chinese are taking too many fish from the seas which will be disastrous, but the in-china pollution has reduced by an amount you wouldn't believe and they have sorted out many of their environmental issues because they have the money to, the skills to and the people to do it. these horseshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNGrlDaocMs, and more since, were released and changed a huge area of land from a desert scrub to a grassland. thousands of projects like that. but they will eat all the fish and sealife will collapse in every ocean, i do accept that is the fault of the chinese.
>>539817879why are some americans so ass mad at china taking their first spot, its not good sportsmanship
>>539817811>>539818059I'm assuming you're chinese and thus why you took such personal offense to what I said, but it wasn't personal. This is a global problem that is most readily apparent in overpopulated nations such as china, such as india, such as much of africa. The entire reason you're in the West is because you've overpopulated and polluted china to the point of unsustainability, to the point of resource scarcity, be that of mates with which to breed as a result of your abhorrent one child policy, sustenance as a result of your famines and stripping the oceans bare of life, shelter due to sheer overpopulation, and rather than addressing the problem you've simply spread the problem, you've spread yourself.There is no value to humanity in feeding and housing billions of third worlders, it's plain for all to see. A welfare state is not sustainable at a national level, a global welfare state is a literal recipe for natural disaster.Select your best, kill the rest, china would be a better country if it had 1/20th the population and you wouldn't have to spend your life damage controlling their reputation.Mao despite his infinite retardation was accidentally a great man for killing 50 million of you, mind you it's unfortunate that you lost so much of your culture and history in the process, but that's the jewish created CCP for you, and whether you like it or not, chinas rapidly declining birth rate and population IS a blessing to humanity as well as china.> I'm sure retards said the planet would never recover from the pollution caused by the industrial revolution tooAnd it hasn't, and it was perhaps the single greatest mistake humanity has ever made, which is why the planet is so much worse off now that we have billions of third worlders repeating that mistake at a colossal scale.Either we get our shit together as a planet, start to live sustainably, or wars and famines at a colossal scale will follow and solve the problem for us.
>>539819177moron
>>539815870All real people countries already restore disturbed land to a natural state when it's not needed anymore. That's how a lot of parks are created. Usually it's done to industrial sites for an industry that is no longer profitable. Like a used up mine or a logyard in the middle of what is now a big city. Or farmland that isn't needed anymore.
>>539818025Fukuoka seed balls aerially delivered https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpN9-45XPrsThe man himselfhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVA1B8FKyNEMicrobe bombing with effective microorganismshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYQDnhoqypoWalter jehne soil carbon sponge hydrology stuffhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3rIkYUVq5chttps://vimeo.com/391991020
>>539818529I met John Dennis Liu the Green Hold documentary maker and then also saw him get teased by Alan Featherstone who has actually planted trees in the thousands of square kilometres range of reforestation
>>539818059We indeed stated overpopulation as XXIth century problem and moved onto preventing it, turns out it was monstrous and humanity will never recover, for that am sorry that the brown hivemind has caused pale face legit worries in the form of invasion of privacy, you people should close your chakras more often
>>539819177>Everybody that makes me mad online is ChineseNot reading your reddit post, you're too retarded
If you are not passionate about conserving the beauty of nature and the wild places in the world, you're a leftist.The type who loves city life.The kind that has a mental breakdown when not in an urban area.
Yes, goy. Blow up your own dams! You don't need them. No more free energy for you!Let the rivers flood again and wipeout entire villages!Mosquitos and their contagious diseases once upon eradicated need a home too!All that fertile land reclaimed from the swamps for farming? You will eat nothing and (((we))) will be happy!Think of Mother Nature, you don't want to anger the goddess of your new religion, do you?!Oh, this only apply to non-shabbos goyim. My shabbies can keep theirs for now, for I am a graceful master! Oy gevalt!
>>539819693I know. I never claimed it to be perfect, which is why I also listed the Green Wall.But no matter how mismanaged it is better for the environment and climate than some overly expensive offshore windpark for example.
>>539815870>thoughts on rewilding and environmentalism?It's based. We should basically have a global law that says that every time you cut down 1 tree, you must plant 1 new tree somewhere else.
>>539819930Jews are the ones who want to destroy nature for profit.But you know this Mr.Spaniard. After all, you're Sephardic
>>539816736>if it thrives, we will thrive.How do I thrive by watching a bunch of dumbass trust fund kids take a productive farm and flood it. How does that worthless bog make my life better? Give me a concrete answer without any vague, big picture, metaphysical horseshit.
>>539819930Aren't you busy drying out your country in order to grow tomatoes?Spain used to be covered in forests.
>>539815870yeah, its a good call.
>>539820052There's a world of a difference between sustainable infrastructure projects like dams & swamp drainage and pants-on-head retarded destruction in the name of $$$. Not that I'd expect a zogmutt to understand.
>>539820159Aside from being a habitat for species that keep pests in check such areas also help the groundwater. Water that would have to otherwise be treated costly. But I guess you are pro Nestle or something, retard.
>>539815870Just designate it a shitting field for jeets
>>539819970For sure I am just chiming in because a big talk at this global earth repair conference I went to 7 years ago was Mr. Liu's ecosystem restoration camps, but a lot of young people there were like why can the boomers trash the planet and then expect us to fix it for free? I was really into nature farming at the time, and have seen great results in restoring degraded soils using microbes and mulching but I finally am coming around to high calcium remineralization albrecht style because seaweed and fireash haven't been enough for plant health even though my unamended soil is 7% Carbon.https://ecosystemrestorationcommunities.org/
Its fucking retarded, our ancestors did not for no reason drive these animals to extinction(in europe) A single beaver without natural predator will flatten a couple acers of forrest before moving on. but the leftard ideology placed beavers above people and trees
>>539820294>Listen Goy, we need to take up massive amounts of land for this hydro power plant. You and your town need to get the fuck outta here.You know it's the modern era right? We can build Nuclear reactors. Geothermal is also coming along nicely. They both don't take up a whole fucking valley to be functional. Also why are you pretending like all dams feature power generation capabilities?
>>539820514>moving onYou do understand they stay in the same lodge for generations right?Maybe city slickers shouldn't talk about the wild places like they understand.
Mutts really need to get on it.West side lakes are drying bad fast.
>>539820159>How do I thrive by watching a bunch of dumbass trust fund kids take a productive farm and flood it. How does that worthless bog make my life better? Give me a concrete answer without any vague, big picture, metaphysical horseshit.Because presumably you like to eat.How can you understand the inherent value in food, but not in the inherent value of maintaining the ecosystem that maintains the soil that produces food? Do you not even understand something as simple as what bees do with respect to your food chain?Lets use india as an example as i've already pissed off the chinks sufficiently. If I feed a cow on a diet of 95% trash, 5% something that vaguely resembles organic material, how much nutrition am I going to get from that cow?The answer is fuck all. Now have a guess as to the nutritional value of the food produced by modern, high intensity, farming over the last century? You guessed it, fuck all, and declining every day and mere crop rotation does not fix depleted soil.Dirt is not magic, it's a living, breathing and incredibly complex ecosystem and it requires nature to maintain, not monsanto products.
>>539817811>decreasingCorrection. It's not. Even if it was, imagine needing to use the derivative instead of absolute numbers. Chinese industrial standards are behind those of late 19th century America.
>>539818033China is too based for these retards. They have no response to this.
>>539821426>reponseThere is a response to off-topic goalpost-shifting whataboutism. Wumao.
>>539820514Beavers don't do that, you dummy, that's just pure cope.
>>539820159True, those fields could be used for ethanol production!>>539820334> groundwaterAmerica gets most of its drinking water from rivers and lakes, lol.
>>539822043Yeah and they are doing their best to dry them up
>>539815870Not possible so long as turdworlders exist, but humanity doesn't seem ready for that truth nuke yet.
>>539821339now do per capita
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>>539822267Now reveal your flag. Do you really think a tribe shitting in the lake having more people make the pollution more justified?
>>539817879You hate em because you ain't them.
>>539818033The bloodline thing is mostly a meme. I am genetically 100% white and they just decided I was Han.
>>539822638How is this related to the OP? Picrel is the Mongolian wild horse, which was reintroduced to a 3,000-hectare grasslands near Hortobágy in eastern Hungary.
>>539822599He's right though retard
>>539822718Post your Hukou
>>539821568>Ree you're Chinese move to ChinaCan't and here's why>Reee off topic goalpost shifting whataboutismFucking kiiiiill yourself
>>539818529Those plants are an unnatural shade of green, pretty sure this is AI
>>539815870It's based. I love hunting and fishing. I detest modernity and brutalism. Sprawl is inherently liberal, a symptom of the spatial phenotype.
>>539815870>thoughts on rewilding and environmentalism?Objectively, the best thing we can do for the environment is exterminate all shitskins, jews, and chinks. I say we start with that and then see what problems persist.
>>539823681Ignoring whatever you consider as unnatural green, it's an old as documentary.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAmai36XJDk
>>539815870A smokescreen to steal land and cripple non corporate profits. Taking advantage of a specific mix of fantastical 20th century views of the noble savage using the entire buffalo, and that Walden ass bohemian grove city boy sees a tree and cries romantic era bullshit LARP.
>>539823666How many brain cells work in that peanut sized skull of yours? The topic isn't China's immigration policy and it's a stupid gotcha. And >>539823481 isn't a counterargument at all you Down's syndrome wannabe. More people doesn't excuse the larger gross and wider selection of pollutants. Which is still tangential to OP's topic of rewilding.
>>539823795>I love hunting and fishing.just say you enjoy killing, psycho
>>539820159In those shitty desert states with collapsing water levels I bet they wish they had some kind of state wide watershed conservation system
>>539815870I hold an autistic view.Leftoid environmentalism is retarded, but so is Rightoid denialism.- Not worried about carbon- But pro nuclear- Mixed on solar- Anti data center- Pro walkable cities- Anti LED- Pro incandescent/sodium bulbs- Lean anti-EV, all things considered- Rail over car culture- Anti-vegetarianism, pro-meat
>>539815870Property owner here living on the edge of a forest. Who gives these governments the right to put zoning overlays on my property without adequate compensation? When you buy a property, you purchase a "bundle of rights", if that bundle of rights gets encumbered by legislation/ordinances after you have bought it, you should be compensated. No different from how eminent domain -which is taking your whole property- requires fair compensation, encumbering the rights of a property owner deserves fair compensation as well. I recently found out my house is in some kind of wildlife corridor but lo and behold all the richfag properties around me and in a neighboring township somehow got to opt out? They put the notice in some obscure local newspaper only boomers subscribe to? It's fucked. Rewild my dick.
>>539825931Feds can do whatever they want, it's free real estate
>>539825230They're too stupid. I was out in Nevada and I was asking people if they had a problem with the alfalfa farms sucking up water because it's such a shocking contrast, you're in the middle of a dry ass desert with n'er a drop to drink and in the middle of it is a green circle of shit that shouldn't be there- "nope, that's their right. what are ya some kind of libtard faggot"?
>>539826161Unironically blame the federal government for shuffling people out there and telling them it's Zion while the actual experts said it was a wasteland What? There's something wrong with everything we're doing here? That's not possible...
>>539820757>take up massive amounts of land for this hydro power plant.It's not massive pristine land, that's not how it works you lying disingenious kike (oxymoron). It's about turning massive amounts of mosquito niggers-infested swamp into clean energy, clean water reserves in case of drought, fixing river beds and preventing historic floods from wrecking your shit, opening up solid, fertile land for agriculture (allowing you to diversify and better rotate food production among your soil inventory).>muh nooks, muh geothermal, muh solar space lasor beaming down watts scotty!Let's see how that works out with the ongoing competency crysis and infinity pajeet CEOs in every industry.Fact of the matter is, hydro remains the cleanest, most efficient and sustainable power source if you have access to it, with a hell of a lot more pros for every con. Asides from the Haber-Bosch process, reclaiming swamp land into hyper-productive agricultural terrain was one of the catalysts which allowed Europe and the West to develop much faster compared to third-world shitholes which were too busy starving to death in-between bouts of diarrhea, famine and malaria.Maybe Silly Billy and his mosquito pet projects know something you don't, retard. Get this through your thick skull, if your agenda were depopulation and dismantling Western Civilization, you would attack these three pillars (which from this pov ARE the root causes): fertilizer/energy, food/soil and disease/vaccines.
>>539825622>Anti LEDwhy?
>>539821339CO2 is meaningless to be fair
>>539818529That green wall shit also sucked what water did exist in the soil out, dooming all the farms in the area.
>>539815870State ecoterrorism justifying fake narrative to cull the cattle.
>>539820933You retarded fucking faggot. The cancerfornia government released that reservoir's waters into the ocean on purpose. It was overflowing not too long ago and they just drained it all then convinced morons like you that it must have been climate change hurr durr.Kill yourself, memeflaggot.
I'm in favor of populating Bouvet Island with Myosotis macrantha × pulvinaris hybrids I will call Myosotis × insula.
>>539817569coal, the country is speaking about environmentalismLMAO
>>539829338You see?
>>539818033>China actually has strict immigrationChina has no emigration.You can't become a Chinese citizen no matter what. You can marry someone in China and live there, going every other month request a renewal to stay in China, but you will never be Chinese.
>>539825127>just say you enjoy killing, psychoHunting and fishing is natural retard. Calling normal people psychos while letting an overgrown population bears loose on your own people instead of hunting them down is quite the chutzpah coming from you, you filthy ecoterrorist dumb fuck gypsy.
>>539825230>state wide watershed conservation systemHow 'bout destroying existing data centers preventing the building of new ones and stop collecting the underground prings for energy producing mini hydroplants?
>>539828909>Anti LED>why?Educate yourself gypsy!
>>539822323Korean grass or "Zoysia tenuifolia" turns brown in the winter to prevent frost damage. Those people are using food-grade paint to "make it look green" until spring.Lot's of countries do this...
>>539815870Environmentalism is based
>>539820933>West side lakes are drying bad fast.CHECKED>>539829271KEK'dCorrect
>>539826667>'s not massive pristine land, that's not how it works you lying disingenious kike (oxymoron).>It's about turning massive amounts of mosquito niggers-infested swamp into clean energy, clean water reserves in case of drought, fixing river beds and preventing historic floods from wrecking your shit, opening up solid, fertile land for agriculture (allowing you to diversify and better rotate food production among your soil inventory).>Get this through your thick skull, if your agenda were depopulation and dismantling Western Civilization, you would attack these three pillars (which from this pov ARE the root causes): fertilizer/energy, food/soil and disease/vaccines.THIS
>>539815870It's based. Right wing environmentalism is the most based thing possible. It scares everyone that should be scared. Wild nature is aristocratic, godly, etc. Take your pick.
>>539829271>The cancerfornia government released that reservoir's waters into the ocean on purpose. It was overflowing not too long ago and they just drained it all then convinced morons like you that it must have been climate change hurr durrYep state sponsored leftist eco terrorism.This is something leftists would do.All water must come from the state. You rebell? Tap closes. Simple as. That's like the oldest communist teope in the book.
>>539818025Based
>>539817879>seething goymutt can't comprehend the propaganda videos he sees do not equate to reality
>>539816736Mynigga, we can have 1trillion humans on earth living in spire-cities occupying less than 1% of the landmasses. Energy from space-solar, heat radiated into space. We cannot return to caveman and save the earth, we are too far past the point of no return.
>>539829989Want to create a new species of Forget-Me-Not adapted to the climate of Bouvet Island, combining the cushion-like growth habit with the dark pigmented flowers of the other species to keep the reproductive organs warm, also want to introduce Ichneutica cuneata there as a pollinator.
>>539817569>china that is the worlds biggest polluter of oceans, air, the environment and it's people? Found the jeet trying to divert attention from the biggest biological hazzard in the history of humanity thats India, now Sukdik tell us the benefits of drinking urine pee.
>not niggermaxxing every square inchdo you even 21st century?
Environmental Autism for the win!
>>539815870Preserving about nature is peak whiteness and any person who tells you otherwise is either a whiteoid or brown.
>>539815870>environmentalismbasically communism
>>539815870Nature isn't an inherent good.
>>539830484I want to seed Bouvet Island with Myosotis × insula otherwise known as Myosotis macrantha × pulvinaris. Not only is it lovely but good for maintaining a Moth ecosystem.
>>539830548But always to be respected.
>>539830545Communist states had some of the worst environmental disasters in history, see Aral Sea or what's left of it.
