>American gamers are stuck to only 5 EUVs>China already building 20 EUVs for 2027China rides once again to save all gamers worldwide except American gamers who ban Chinese RAM
the China shills are on a roll today
>>539824987Only 5 of these new DUV machines are being given out to companies in 2027 and the rest around 2030.This is also a bandaid solution to get to -10nm chips, there will be many errors on the wafer so the yields will be dogshit.
>>>/g/ay
>>539824989>Only 5 of these new DUV machines are being given out to companies in 2027 and the rest around 2030.>the chinese are 30 years behind>the chinese are 10 years behind>the chinese are 1 year behindThe cope is getting a bit desperate
I’ve pretty much gone fully into retro games and low-spec indies at this point. Bugs are going to boast about their incoming factories of cheap RAM and then they’re going to play Gachaslop #3,935 with it. No thanks.
>>539824987i preferred euiv to euv personally, pdx kind of fucked it
>>539824987
Is this our only hope for getting RAM prices down?Or maybe not if it mostly goes to industrial compute.
>i love paying $1111,99 for an stick of ram!!!
who gives a fuck when most devs are pozzed faggots who create nothing of value?people will still be replaying warcraft 3 in 20 years no one will play any of the mainstream shit thats currently being pushed out
Trump will ban it and you’ll continue paying $3000 dollars for RAM and GPUs. And when you cry about it he’ll tell you to just stop being poor and work longer and harder
>>539824995The industry will buy the cheap, shitty chinese stuff.Source: Trust me bro
>>539824995Nah. China will become richer, while we lose even more purchasing power.
>>539824998Thankfully nobody will vote red ever again.
>>539824994I never understood these webms. Why do they even need so much hardware. Just duplicate Android VMs into a PC, make sure each one goes out to a different public IP if that's somehow needed and that's it.Then fuck are those setups
>>539824987Is this going to be like chinese graphic cards where you guys shill them and then when they actually get released they are complete shit?
>>539824988This is a SEA site now, they need to suck the Chinese dick because of their gacha addiction.
Your corporate overlords will tax and tariff it. It already happened with cars, it's gonna happen with RAM.
>>539825004basically yeah
>>539825004Probably, these are the same people who shill all those chink anime gachas just because they have a bit of tame fanservice no matter how shit the gameplay is.
>>539825005Let's pretend any of that is true (it's not). How does ANY of that change the reality of the article?
>>539825000Sure it will, but usually China can scale production enough to satisfy global demand.Compute and electronics demand will keep growing but may be capped by electricity supply and cost, the price of chips will only go down if their production can outpace that.
>>539824994phones really did kill the internet LLMs were simply the final nail in the coffin
>>>/g/csg
implessive
>>539824991They are behind. They're not manufacturing current gen hardware. And they're probably going to be running into problems that were already solved elsewhere. But at this point people might be happy anyway to have hardware that's a little outdated but at least they can afford it, if that ends up happening.
>>539824995No because if it's any good AI company's are just going to buy it too. They have unlimited money.China also has a shit ton of AI models btw so even if they block US firms their firms are still going to be able to moneyhat the supply
>>539824987Those machines aren't going to be making the kinds of chips you think they're going to be making.
>744267376>ball and gun consoomer has an opinion
>>539825000different from what everything is right now?
Why do some anons hate Chinese competition? Just look at diamonds, we got raped by De Beers for 100+ years straight until chinks stepped in and drove down prices
It is crazy how China triggers brainwashed American consumers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5SjnbOFT7g
>>539824987Trump just shut down our chip building projects because it has trans sisters
>>539825019They grew up on Liveleak videos and think the whole country is like that. Just like they think America is all brown people. They're seething third worlders.
>American consumersIt's Australians and Canadians actually. If it's not Chinks or SEAniggers, its usually Americans who are the ones making these threads. Aussies and Canzucks are currently being raped by chinese businessmen and they fucking HATE chinks.
>>539824987Nobody knows what the fuck that means.
>>539824987Implessive
>>539824987Those are DUV immersion fabricators, different pathway. Domestic EUV mass production is scheduled for the 2030s. Read what you link you fucking subhuman.Anyway, I'm more curious to see news of what happens with the FEL project, this is what will push tech forward.>>539824998>>539825006Good, Americans deserve it.>>539825004As your resident Chinese shill, I always told you to skip any announcement that hypes up CHINESE CARDS SIR for many many years. At least until 2030.There are plenty of scammer companies in China that just take existing fabs and shit out some garbage with zero driver support to drum up hype and scam money. They are to be ignored.The big Chinese national fab projects are not producing ANY PRODUCTS YET. Anything you buy before the 2030s except mobile Huawei SOCs for phones, and maybe some RAM, although they sell memory chips to other manufacturers and don't really sell kits to consumers yet.In general, for CPUs or GPUs, wait until a big player like Huawei is confident enough to sell their own. The GPU market isn't a place for small, boutique sellers, they are a scam if they claim so. You need a huge company behind it to provide driver support, for fucks sake, Intel tried and basically already gave up.
>>539825019Probably because people understand the history of the Communist party in China. TLDR for those that do not: it's truly appalling.
>>539825019Americans are completely and utterly buck broken by them. Something which their government encourages to drum up support for some other criminal war to enrich the Epstein Empire.
>>539825027Americans don't even understand difference between 2/3 or 1/5 so let alone understand the differences between DUV or EUVs.
...europa universalis V?
>>539825031EXTREME ULTRAVIOLET Machine
>>539825027>Anything you buy before the 2030s except mobile Huawei SOCs for phones, and maybe some RAM*anything you buy right now except for these are a scamGuess you can also buy Ascend AI accelerator cards, those work and are just a generation behind, but guzzle power, need specialized hardware, and you can't gaym on those.
>>539825028And US had slavery, so did the second French republic. Who cares?
>>539825019Competition is good. China doing literally anything and people saying how advanced they are and the west is so far behind is just stupid though, and makes it so any advancements China actually does make will get diminished.
>>539825035>Any country could make their DUV or EUV>Rotschild patent prevents this
>>539825035Idk anon, west banning and taxing everything Chinese is a good argument for Chinese to be ahead of us. If it wasn't we would be able to compete in a free market
>>539825035>China doing literally anything and people saying how advanced they are and the west is so far behind is just stupid thoughits not stupid, its a chinese government propaganda campaign
SIRIF THE PLEBS HAVE ANYTHING NOT CONTROLLED BY OUR GREATEST ALLY IT'S EVIL COMMUNISMYOU CAN'T DO THIS SIRDROP THE OPEN SOURCE CODE OR I'LL HAVE TO SHOOT
>>539825037>muh free marketno, I refuse to "compete" with sweatshops and slaves in another country, in a race to the bottom for who can create the most profit for billionaires
We need to figure out a way to guide an Astroid into their country.
>>539825038Nigga I wish I got paid for shitting on my occupation government for tanking my standards of living to hell, then having the fucking GALL to demand I be patriotic for their economic zone.
>>539824988Sorry mutt, but your plan to exterminate the white race for your Jewish masters isn't going through...
>>539825038>meanwhile, in reality, amerisharts have conniptions about muh chyna dailyBe real.
>>539825042>American billionaires are bad, so that must mean... Chinese billionaires good!you deserve to be a slave forever, good thing China will make that possible for you.
why can usa compete?
