Is /pol/ ready for the single question who stuns your mind rapes your cattle brain and makes you go insane Do you really feel yourself worthy and powerful enough to even ponder this thought for even a femto second doesn't care which religion, the question remains the same and no if your religion prohibits you from asking, just kill yourself cattle and don't even think about setting your foot inside my >blessed thread>Who, Why, When, Where & How created god?this is not just a question, it's a question inside another question which will lead you to countless questions>it will basically rape your mind without lubeANSWER /POL/>even glowies and kikes can come here and try their wits
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>>539830143The big bang created god checkmate red*it
>>539830525and who created the big bang
>>539830143Try dmt (speaking only to white people)
>>539830568and who created those dmt entitieswho gave those dmt entity that knowledge who gave those entity knowledge who gave those dmt entity knowledge about that and so on
Gods were created by the need for parents to explain things to children. Why does it rain, Daddy? Mommy, why does thunder happen? And since you can't just say "I don't know" without your child thinking you are stupid, you tell them that the answer is that a god did it. The exact god changes over time and location, because it's a made up story. The answer works equally well if you say Zeus did it, or Vishnu did it, or Yahweh did it.
God was just something we created to explain how the world when science wasn't as advanced. I much prefer learning physics and astronomy over jewish folklore.
>>539830561the flying spaghetti monster touched it with His noodly appendage.
Do these trivial questions keep you from self-actualizing, OP?
>>539830143I asked my mom this when I was 5 dude
>>539830772answer them christkike jew worshipper
What?God's father and mother created him. How are you this blinded by dogma that you don't realise God had parents.
>>539830710>>539830742then who created the laws and mechanics of the science you speak ofwho created this reality who created the thing which created this reality >you can't simply say it's a loop or say it's a paradox. As for which it will mean it started at one point which breaks the theory of the fundamental principle of paradox itself things are not as simple as they can look anon
>>539830834I denounce all of the abrahamic religions.Try again, faggot.
>>539830143God exists independent of time so to ask when he was created, or even if he was created makes no sense. The physical world exists in time and so had to have a beginning.
>>539830710Many Gods are created this way and gain power (ethereal / corporeal presence) as they are worshiped and wane as they fall out of vogue.>Inb4source
>>539830757>the flying spaghetti monster touched it with His noodly appendage.who created this flying spaghetti monster>>539830772the thing that I am able to question such questions meansthat i am indeed self actualizing better than all of you who are trying to divert the topic rather than answering >>539830827and why did you stopped did those jews and your god told you to stop asking questions WHY DID YOU KILLED YOUR INNER CHILD, ANON>>539830911>God's father and mother created him.and who created them, ANON
>>539830988yes, it doesn't even make any sense And anonTHAT is also the part of the question>this question is actually an info-hazard which can keep you up, for your entire life >>539831056yeah yeah >godforms i know that lol i am a chaos magician but who created the real DEAL, Anon
>>539830143Jeet, you have likt 300 gods? Which jeetgod are you talking about? Shitva, Fecekali? Flushnu?
>>539831110>the thing that I am able to question such questions means>that i am indeed self actualizing better than all of youThat tells me you don't understand the definition of self-actualization. What is your potential when your basic hierarchy of needs are not even met?
>>539831265You're too retarded to understand why your question makes no sense and so just assume the whole situation makes no sense.
>>539831332I am a self theist anonI consider myself god living in the real created by me >it's complicated
>>539830143What existed before the big bang>hurrr there was never nothing there was always something le energy make big boom derp!
>>539830143God doesn't exist. That was an easy one
>>539831353my basic hierarchy needs are being met and this >and me asking this question is part of that so i see no problem in this, anon>>539831397you simply just can't move away for a question which is fundamentally philosophical in nature>i said info-hazard for a reason, anonyou are just simply not able to think about this question being outside the real of time is an excuse for human mind >to stop questioning about this questionthink about it anon
>>539830143Buddhist cope thread. I'm not falling for your dependent orgination scam.
>>539831643>my basic hierarchy needs are being met and thisThen what is your potential?
>>539831557then how are you and all of us alive anon>who are we if god doesn't exist and how the start, started
>>539830143In supersymmetry before space/time and the laws of physics there was a single iota of energy that calculated the entire history of the universe. In the meta there are no rules, no power restraints, no power requirements that can't be filled with imagination. Just a single iota of energy in an infinite sea of energy imagining a universe. Thats god. And whether we are the simulation of the universe from that supersymmetry or the executed plan is the real question.
>>539831651i am not even Buddhistyou are just running away from the most fundamentally philosophical and simple yet complex question that can ever exist,Anon
>>539830143religtards dismiss this question by claiming God is the only entity that doesn't need a creator because shut the fuck up and stop asking uncomfy question just shut up and respect my authoritah
>>539831685My potential, i am not yet simply aware >I don't know how far but i know it's far
>>539830143Wrong, your claim implies that there must be an infinite chain of causation, this is unverifiable and in most cases unreasonable.Whereas in most cases a creator god symbolizes the maximization of causation.i.e. a prime mover.Though in no way does this guarantee a christian god if does give an argument for a god.Btw this is fucking ancient even the greek could argue this.
>>539830143>Eternal>createdPick one>>539831110A big fan of bananas created the flying spaghetti monster
>>539831715PERFECT PERFECT PERFECT PERFECT PERFECT YOU DID IT ANONYOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO HAS CAME THIS CLOSE TO SOLVING THIS QUESTION IT WAS THIS SIMPLE BUT THIS COMPLEX YOU MIGHT HAVE SOLVED 99% OF THIS QUESTIONBUT THERE IS STILL 1% WHICH MIGHT BE NEVER SOLVABLE BY MORTAL MIND AND WHO KNOWS CAN BE YOU ARE A GENIUS, ANONYOU ARE A GENIUS >>539831879one did it and he is here
>>539831110>who created this flying spaghetti monsterit's flying spaghetti monsters all the way down
>>539830143That’s really just a contrived thought to ponder, not really the paradox you think it is. This is like asking how does the rainbow taste? There is no answer for that of course because the question is absurd.
>>539830710>Gods were created by the need for parents to explain things to children.When man first awoke however many tens or hundreds of thousands of years ago, he perceived a world around him filled with spirits. These spirits weren't gods at all, at least not yet. Invisible (at times), intangible (at times). Intelligent. Spiteful and moody. Not easily knowable. A man might hunt successfully for years, but then one season it all goes to shit. Did he offend these spirits, cause some offense?It became important to know the spirits well enough to avoid that. Specialists arose, people who studied the spirits, knew how to placate them. Some spirits were helpful at times. People attempted to win their favor. Gifts were offered.Some spirits were more powerful than others, as some men are more powerful than other men. These spirits became popular. The gifts became more generous. The placations more elaborate. Sycophancy and veneration kicked in. Some spirits were elevated to being gods... nothing changed about those spirits, this was a promotion not a mutation.The lesser spirits are the most interesting of all. Modern humans can't even really understand. Everything we think of as a monster from mythology was, in the truest sense, a spirit. The Cyclops wasn't a one-eyed giant made of flesh and subject to population dynamics. Faeries weren't little Tinkerbells out flitting around. All spirits.Your reddit-tier explanation is dogshit. You're intellectually a nigger.
>>539831884Then perhaps you should spend more time pondering THAT instead of frittering away your time on the ineffable.
>>539831715>supersymmetryUhhh cringe, Leibniz famously claimed that symmetry and god are impossible at the same time otherwise a perfectly symmetrical donkey would starve to death.Which IMO perfectly explains perfect maximized universes without god because they are symmetric and therefore nullified (starved donkeys).
This jeet really though he was Ramanujan with this one lmao.These arguments are so fucking old you dumbass jeet, read a fucking book, people have been arguing about god since longer than indians have been using toilets... oh wait they still dont use those
>>539832040>Btw this is fucking ancient even the greek could argue this.that's the point anonthat's indeed the point >Running away from this question is like running away from Socrates and Plato when they tell you to come sit and debatei believe one anon has came so far to solve it yet not so farand he is here>>539831715
>>539831451>I consider myself god living in the real created by meAh. Belphegor, the demon god of shite, squeezed you out as a turd. Don't be ashamed, state this god's name proudly.
>>539832217>3rdjeet can't into reading comphrehensionmany such cases, go read a book you hindpoo
>>539832079the question is not absurd anonthe rainbow to have a taste is live air particles to have a taste when they interact with water molecules which will indeed make rainbows to have a taste if you have a tongue which can taste the each molecules and then indeed rainbows can be said to have a taste which makes sense because they have a taste
>>539832217>i believe one anon has came so far to solve it yet not so far>and he is here>>>539831715>it's all just unverifiable sci-fi fan fictionThis is why God is a Mathematician not a physicuck
>>539832139hmm, interesting counterpoint now this discussion is truly becoming fruitful>i wonder how far we can go
>>539832230gave me a bit jolly>anongood work
>>539830143>WhoI did>WhyBored>WhenLast Thursday >WhereYour mom's house>HowCoomed in her womb
>>539830143God is a concept made from out imagination to represent the unknown. If every currently living human simultaneously were made to lose the concept or idea of a "god" from their consciousness. Then the first thinker would eventually come to the very same conclusion that there is this unanswered question of who/what made it all? And its easy to take the lazy route out and say it was made by some omnipotent being. Thats just Low IQ.
>>539832374>This is why God is a Mathematician not a physicuckahm, anonplease don't make fun of physics honestly math is pretty boring physics explains beautifully what math explains terribly and disgustingly
>>539832548then who it was anon
>>539832325>the Indian brain on display hereTry this experiment, shine a flashlight into your mouth and describe the taste, also search for your brain while you’re in there.
>>539830143AND THEN?Its like trying to argue with a child. Countless theologians have tackled these questions but that would require knowing how to read.
>>539832697i already explained, anon
>>539830143What a retarded questionA when where who and why is not needed when the god isnt bound to time.(You), yes (You) made time itself up. For a higher dimensional being time is fucking irrelevant. it exists anytime anywhere. It has always been. And that also makes who and why utterly irrelevant.Ty for coming to my Tedtalk :3
>>539832139So you're just saying you think we're still in supersymmetry and are just a simulation of the gad particle.>>539832374>This is why God is a Mathematician not a physicuckThats why they can't solve science for a general theory. Gravity is a thing, but not a particle. Its compressed space created by the lie of every particle that it exists output in a field. Magnetism is just an induced gravitation field. Neutrinos are just transporting gravitational compressed space outwards in potential. You can only measure it with math, you can't measure it with science except algebraically using the potato threshold.
>>539832775oh yeah, how to read yup true>you can go back to worshipping your kike lord or whatever
>>539832825>it exists anytime anywhere. It has always been.how can you be so sure, anon>And that also makes who and why utterly irrelevant.again, how you be so sure have you pondered enough
>>539832828very good anon
>>539830143https://youtu.be/n5Riuk8CNAA
>>539832933>again, how you be so sure>have you pondered enoughIt only makes sense. Time is bound to a dimension. We know there are higher dimensions. (thanks to the observer effect in the double slit experiment)And this video gives some insight on how much lower we are to those things (gods or god or whatever you choose to believe in) without even taking into account it might be of a much higher dimension even (and its quite funny)>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7m9IO66i2MM
>>539830143>whoGod.>whyWhy not.>whenIn the future from our perspective.>howSheer willpower.
>>539830143This argument works more against atheists. God is the eternal entity that doesn't need creation. It is why cause and effect works in our universe.>something began the first cause and effect>Intelligence exists>things existsolid evidence for an eternal Intelligence outside of reality.
>>539830143God is self existent and sovereign, he wasnt created, he is and always was and always will be.how hard is this to comprehend?
>>539833066exactly my point >make it make sense and make it doesn't mortal mind will weep through spine eyes will shine with bleak demise sense it doesn't and should it will who is who and who isn't
>>539830143An infinite being does not need a creator. God doesn't live in the 3rd dimension and your 3D brain simply can't comprehend such a being.
>>539833087>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7m9IO66i2MM i have seen this and it is pretty goodby god i meanthe thing that started the start and maybe the one who started the start who started the start
>>539833172alright thenhow did this god came into existence and the existence itself
>>539833496>the thing that started the start and maybe the one who started the start who started the startYou can lead this back to infinityBut what does a start matter to somebody who has already finished the race yet was never in it?A start exists to us, not to something beyond time.
>>539833564God exists outside of time.
>>539833176and how is this soverign and always was and will be came to do this how >>539833446then why doesn't your 3D brain try asking this question
>>539833642he is self existent.
>>539833600what you just said to me >think about it again but read them slowly>you will notice something and no i am not babbling bullshityou will seeread it again what you wrote
>>539830143>SAAAAAR, GOD IS CREATION, NOT CREATORIndian paganism is demon worship of created spiritual entities, just like the rest of the pagan religions. Christians worship the Creator, not His creation. Your false gods are creations, our God is eternal.
>>539833619how>>539833722how does he can and how
>>539833795because he is God.
>>539833766say that to any hindooo, that god is creation they will leach on youi don't consider myself as a hindooo
>>539833834and how is this god existing you can go on like this forever i can keep asking how it will never end until someone answers
>>539833760Anon, to a higher dimensional being time does not matter.It might simply be and extra axis to our three dimensional room. One it simply does not have to move on.
>>539833925self sustaining, eternal, immortal.God can not not exist.
>>539830143God is uncreated. Jeet education
>>539833925you will never find an answer because you are falling for the language trap. you cannot encase the greatness of god with it
>>539833949so you mean it's just >......... G........this you get itjust >...........up there>>539834053howyou need to give a better explanation than that
>THIS QUESTION KILLS YOUR BRAINno it doesnt. He is eternal in both directions. He has no beginning and no end. No one created him.
>>539830932>who created this realityNobody, it just is
>>539830143Only real god is Allah only Allah have unique godlike powers-abilities which are explained through unique names and features of AllahAllah is not created the requirement to be created to come into existence is the case only for creatures not Allah -who created everything-.Atheists say "if everything has to be created by god then who created god" but Allah's(the only real god's) own zat/self is seperate from time,location and all other rules,perception and phenomena in every alem where creatures live including physical alem being created is for creatures in physical alem and other alemsAllah is unique he resembles no one and nothing else you can not understand Allah's own zat and how he is like it is beyond the comprehension ability of humans and all other creatures.
>>539834191why? God has no need to explain himself. he is.
>>539830143There is no god.
>>539833861Then what point are you trying to make by asking who/what created God? If God were created, then He simply isn't God because there is something greater than that created god.God, by definition, is the greatest, there is no thing greater than Him. It is why He has titles like El Elyon (God Most High) and is seen as the God of gods.Essentially, you are asking "what is greater than the greatest?" To which the answer would be "there is no thing greater than the greatest, that is why He is the greatest."My apologies for my prior hostility.
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>>539830143>who created goda filthy jeet invented your god. my god created everything from himself
>>539834121ok then>...................................is this god >............................................and this the answer for his existence and everything which exists anon i am well aware of this language trapso this is basically it and will only end with ending the world that can only be the answer for this question
>>539834191>>...........>up thereyet also up there. Crazy. I know. But it both never and always there
>>539834243If we're being completely fair, "Allah" and "God" are the same word. The capitalization of god is important.Though I must say, attributing "powers" to God is a bit weird. What are you doing?
>>539830143>god
>>539834265my question will then be who created ..... then who created who created ...... and so onfor something to exists means a starting point simply existing doesn't even make any sense does it>>539834219
i just ripped a fuckin fart like you wouldn't believei could feel it in my feet through the floor
>>539833795He just does.You can ask all the questions you want but that doesn't mean you can comprehend the answers. Even the sheer size of the 3D universe is incomprehensible.
>>539834366hmm>................so this can only be the answer for nowlol
>>539834439>simply existing doesn't even make any sense>does itto you it might not. To it, it might
>>539830568I'm a little afraid of DMT.I'llplay with mushrooms.But DMT is touching shit outside this reality and I think I'll just wait to see what is there when I'm called.BTW, Anon, it's lovely over on this side of the thread. Do you have a jamboy?
>>539834424beautiful isn't it>>539834467it's worth numerous tries, better than any drug
>>539834493>to you it might not. To it, it mightpowerful >how can you be so sure i can be sure for MEbut how can you be so sure for IT are you IT
>>539830143No one created God you retarded shitskins. God is absolute and infinite, the uncreated Creator, the unmoved Mover. That's also why there must be exactly one and only one True God.Aristotle figured out all of this thousands of years ago. It's not that complicated, you are just a retarded subhuman.
>>539830143Wow a third worlder with terrible grammar is showing off his 70 iq. Better stop and listen to his monkey babble
>>539830143I Am that I AmIs was ever will be
>>539830143>people in caves wrote down fantasy works based on moral lessons passed down through time that make objectively the best civilization humans canThere. That’s it. Btw if you believe in god you must accept and allow that leprechauns, fairies, and unicorns have and do exist. This is done by your own standards of not needing any measurable basis of correlation.
>>539834598>but how can you be so sure for IT I said might.
honestly this thread turn out pretty well than I expected /pol/ still has some humans left>i like those two german anons and that austrian anonyou three were the best loved it
>>539834306you will never find a satisfactory answer because there isn't oneyour people already figured it out many years ago-- neti neti. in the west it's called the apophatic path
>>539834733Thats a good chud pic. Stealing it
>>539834716oh yeah you did my bad it's midnight i gotta sleep now cya /pol/we had fun
>>539833564God doesn't need to come into existence. The only thing that needs that explanation is existence itself as it is something we can observe. That explanation being God.
>>539834765hmmi have heard about neti neti>>539834793lulz
>>539830143God created Himself. He is the Alpha AND the Omega.This is only a mind-bending question if you are brown.
>>539834869Are you a janny or a mod?
>>539830143God always existed and he is uncreated
>>539835032no, i am me
>>539834439>for something to exists means a starting pointThese realities are observable only within the boundaries and laws that define the universe. Time, space, and matter came into existence together with the universe and do not transcend it; they are created features that reflect God’s design. Likewise, physical causality, the temporal relationship between events within the universe, began with the universe. God’s creative act, therefore, should not be understood as an earlier event within time, but as the transcendent cause and ontological foundation of time, space, matter, and the universe itself.>simply existing doesn't even make any senseWhy does it not make sense to you? This is a question that you will have to grapple with, friend.
>>539830143That question gets down to the core of what existence is at a foundational level. God is tantamount to consciousness. It is the Brahman. If you take everything away layer by layer, the one thing you cannot take away from existence without removing existence itself is consciousness. That is the essence of reality. That is what God is. That is the substrate by which everything else is imprinted on or projected onto.
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