As an OG alt-righter from the 1990s I remember reading Pat Buchanan and he predicted >The US South West would try to break away and join Mexico>Crime would increase at a horrific rate with more Mexicans>Mexicans would NEVER vote for Republicans Even he conceded they were good for the economy (as literally every economist does) so his anti arguments were cultural. Well let's see how his predictions fare:1) There's literally 0 secession movements anywhere in the US. The most Hispanic city in the USA is more conservative than many whiter cities (and it's the safest big city in the USA): El Paso. You'll see way more American flags in El Paso than you will in white cities like Portland or SF.2) Crime has decreased a fuck ton since the 1990s all as the hispanic population boomed. California which saw all time high crime in the 1990s is down to historic lows as the hispanic population "replaces" the whites and blacks. The safest city in the USA is El Paso which is over 85% hispanic. There is no crime boom. As the USA has become more diverse it's actually gotten safer.3) Mexicans will vote Republican. They will even vote for Republicans who run on anti-Mexican policies lol Trump got the biggest ever share of the hispanic vote by promising to be tough on immigrants and tariffing Mexico. Not something people with dual loyalties would do. Pat Buchanan would have shot himself if he knew the Republican was getting 47% of hispanic men.So given that literally ever study ever conducted shows that both high skilled and low skilled immigration is good for the economy and there seems to be no negative externalities why would I oppose hispanics?
The crime decreases are changes to law enforcement and reporting methods, not an actual reduction in incidents that were criminalized in the control time period, and true decreases only happen when Mexicans are displacing blacks, Dominicans, etc. It’s objectively true that anywhere non-whites are added to white communities, the standard of living for whites gets worse. Period. Full stop. No exceptions.
They don’t even vote Republican by the way. Mexicans aren’t trad Caths. They’re pagans who believe in shit like reincarnation and the all seeing eye and Santa Meurte with ethnic affinities and voting patterns that confirm them.
>>539831269>It’s objectively true that anywhere non-whites are added to white communities, the standard of living for whites gets worse. Period. Full stop. No exceptions.Incorrect. Lots of dying communities in rural Texas, Oklahoma, Arizona, and NM were saved by hispanics for instance. The economic benefits of immigration are not a zero sum game, we all benefit. Would you rather live in an all-white West Virginia methhead property crime haven or a suburb with middle class hispanics.The idea that hispanics are incapable of assimilating to the middle class is wrong.
>>539831143because hispanics create a dual loyalty problem to south america, one far far worse than the current situation with israel. Hispanics are lowkey fucking psychotic about "the old country" and making every facet of their lives around it. A cuban 3 generations removed is still going to simp for bringing in 5 million more cubans if they could. Immigration is good for CAPITALISM, not nationalism. while I don't even hate mexicans a tenth of the level I hate jeets, arabs or niggers they pose the greatest risk of self determination in the future.
>>539831329>Catholics aren't trad cathsAnd? Neither are 99.999% of the country besides LARPers online. Do you think most people voting Republican are trad caths? kek. Most are basically atheists who go to a chill church on easter. >Muh juju!!!!Do you know how many white Christians in America believe in speaking in tongues and new age fusion of Christianity with "law of attraction" and other retarded shit?
they aren't white. That defeats any and all arguments.
>>539831143You don't fear the racial shift? Your continent is turning non-white at an astonishing rate.
>>539831436>because hispanics create a dual loyalty problem to south americaExcept that's been proven totally wrong. Go to hispanic towns in the south west and it's filled with patriotic people flying US flags and filled with vets with lifted trucks like you'd expect white people of a similar socio-economic situation. This idea hispanics are going "Mexico Mexico Mexico" is a lie because you saw some ICE protest in LA and assumed that's all hispanics and not a sub-culture of a sub-set of LA hispanics. No different than if I saw an ANTIFA rally and decided we had to kill all whites for being communists.>Immigration is good for CAPITALISM, not nationalismWhat do you mean good for capitalism. Capitalism is an economic system. Immigration is good for prosperity. >T...they aren't heritage Americans Okay? I don't care. I don't care about Norwegian Americans or Greek Americans or Italian Americans. They aren't heritage Americans. What percent of America is old stock English and Dutch? I myself am like 50% old stock white and 50% Norwegian American white from the 1800s. I literally don't care. I've been in a lot of Hispanic heavy areas the last few years and have been totally red pilled on what a non-issue they are.
>>539831143As an OG troon my front hole is completely sealed off
>>539831691>>539831768No I don't. Because the idea that races are going to be isolated in purity is so fake and gay. Look at all the mixing in the last 100 years. Technology is bringing us all closer together and making travel so easy. Also, who cares about race when we'll have CRISPR and you can just gene edit your baby to be an Aryan warrior or whatever. That's the way we're headed. I really don't see any problem with Hispanics I don't see any proof they are dumb or inherently violent or anything. I quite like living around them.
>>539831916It's just a race to the bottom really. If you're not living like a nigger you're working too hard. They removed all societal guards to weed out losers so they could employ black women and give them loans. So the future is basically Africa
>>539831143>The safest city in the USA is El Paso which is over 85% hispanic.>actually trueI had no clue. And West Virginia is a shithole and California a postmodern asylum. What gives?If whites in West Virginia are basically Europeans, wouldn't we expect them to be the same as a Frenchman or a Scandinavian? What am I missing?
>>539832030>They removed all societal guards to weed out losers so they could employ black women and give them loans.Actually society is just changing. There's a lot of jobs black women are better than white men at (lots of office work for instance). That's the case for women in general. Men need to sort of evolve and up our game. Complaining about women working when they are simply better adapted to the modern work environment is not the way to go. Feminism didn't cause the current gender divide. Technology did. If it was feminism you wouldn't see the massive rate of women in the work place you have in Iran and China and India.
>>539832161West Virginia is basically an illegally created industrialist coal mining colony they abandoned and then started filling with drugs from northern cities. So like Wales or something
>>539832161>If whites in West Virginia are basically Europeans, wouldn't we expect them to be the same as a Frenchman or a ScandinavianThe whites living in Appalachia are from a part of Europe where they used to kill people from being in a different family clan who lived over the hill. They never lost that attitude. They are the kind of whites that will shoot you for your copper wire and show no remorse. Then their family seeks blood and the cycle continues. Whites were not always as civilized as they are now. Appalachians are isolated and stuck in the past. But it's dotted with liberal mountain towns for the Appalachian trail lol
>>539832204There's not a single job black women are good at I can guarantee that. Maybe hoeing and picking cotton
>>539831691It is hard to find an admixture map of Burgerland, but you are actually just the same. That seems to account for why your behaviour is so different from Europeans' and the overall intelligence so much lower.
>>539832367>West Virginia >Crime ridden shithole>Upper New England>White Utopia Not everything is as simple as race. If it was WV should be as comfy a Maine
>>539832424New england has enjoyed tax revenue from the rest of the country since it's founding. It's full of yuppie Neoliberal niggers that only care about wealth, and will sell out the entire country to get it
>>539832479>New Hampshire is filled with yuppie Neoliberal niggersNew Hampshire is filled with grouchy libertarians and guys who think riding a motorcycle makes them tough. Vermont tho... and Maine...
>>539832319But Wales is way better and more developed. Scotland used to be have a heroin problem and the whole Trainspotting generation. China had the opiate crisis too. Can't you pick yourself up by your bootstraps?>>539832326>The whites living in Appalachia are from a part of Europe where they used to kill people from being in a different family clan who lived over the hill.This nigger is talking straight nonsense.
>>539832556New Hampshire was all but abandoned when the industrialists collapsed agriculture or something. So most people living there aren't native
>>539832598>This nigger is talking straight nonsense.I'm not you idiot. Look at how the English wrote about the Scots-Irish (who mostly inhabit Appalachia). They were all doing clan wars and were easy to violence and brought that over to Appalachia. They got civilized by the English later. When they came to the USA their culture was still an honor based culture where you had to kills somebody if they looked at you wrong because your family honor was on the line. It's part of why they are so un-welcoming and generally uncivilized. We never civilized them like the English did. They were left to fester in Appalachia.
>>539832598It's right...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imjfiKKQoFM
>>539832878Lol the border people dumped into the US by the English were the main people that told the English to fuck off. American heritage is being some angloid flotsam the crown didn't know what to do with. Talk about a powder keg importing 50 different kind of dysgenic flotsam and not expecting a revolution
OP is regurgitating arguments people have always made in order to obfuscate the fact that this country is objectively getting shittier in every way while it gets more and more non-white and controlled by women.
>>539834730Probably? These people have no idea what America is, or they do and they're scared
>>539831424They weren't saved, they were replaced. Companies abandoned the towns or were pushed out of business, decades later mfg companies buy cheap land to build on, and promote immigration to the town to replace the dying junky population left after being abandoned.
>>539831143Pat Buchanan was our last chance to fix the country, federally. Even he admits now there's no hope to save the nation we were all born into.
>>539831143IS THAT ZYKLON BEN GARRISON
>>539835762>save the US federal governmentfor what purpose
I think Mexico has become so shit it's a rare case of only the good ones are leaving now. The black market had changed too, the classic drugs are less popular than fent which comes from China & India.
>>539836083The thing is, mexico was never not shit.
>>539831143I actually read your post now btw. I just don't see enough Buchanan love.That being said I think you've just become disillusioned in your old age finally. I get it; I, too, have been in the same boat and I was only born in the mid-90s.A nation is more than numbers on a fucking screen. It's a way of life. It's how you feel when you walk down the street or step outside onto your own land. It's a mindset, a spirit.Hispanics do not have that fundamentally. The United States has not become better morally, spiritually or intellectually the less White it has become. Our art has not improved. Our military has not performed better. People do not feel safer or connected to their neighbors.You may call yourself an, "OG alt-righter," but you're proving that you fundamentally are just a normie Republican from 30 years ago. What matters to you is purely materialistic concerns - what the numbers on the screen say. Numbers on screens calculated by people we know are lying to us and hate Americans - and we all know what a real American is, it's not some mystery, don't play dumb.
>>539831424>Would you rather live in an all-white West Virginia methhead property crime haven or a suburb with middle class hispanics.Former doesn't really exist. Most of the dope-fiends in Appalachia are only a danger to themselves and each other. Your supposedly wholesome chungus Spics are all getting money from Cartels btw who's entire schema is peddling drugs that do harm to the social and moral fabric of the nation.
>>539831775>Go to hispanic towns in the south west and it's filled with patriotic people flying US flags and filled with vets with lifted trucks like you'd expect white people of a similar socio-economic situation.They're skinwalkers, they're not really American. They're fitting in, camouflaging to hide their subversion of your society from you. I don't care if they're veterans or how decorated they are, either. They only do it for the benefits and the money. If all of that dried up like it was for most of American history in terms of being a soldier, none of them would have ever fought or killed or risked death for the Republic. It's not there's. They're only here for economic opportunity. As soon as that goes tits up they will just all go to where the next milkable cash-cow is.>Okay? I don't care.>50% Norwegian American white from the 1800s. I literally don't care.Yep. Every single time. Your ancestors never should've been allowed to be here. You will never love this nation or its people as much as someone like me. I don't care what achievement you throw in my face. You did it because your good deeds would be reciprocated materially.>t. actual american, both sides of my family
>>539831916>Look at all the mixing in the last 100 years.Local Boomer doesn't know ethnography. Go get a crash course from one of your grandkids or just read, "Passing of the Great Race." Nordics marrying other Nordics isn't miscegenation dumbass.>advocating gene editingYou are a traitor and a sub-human.
>>539832204>Men need to sort of evolve and up our game.I agree. We not only need to get better but become infinitely more racist and militant about it. I want roving bands of White men beating up niggers for violating White norms of dress from 30-40 years ago and disciplining White men and women who act or talk like niggers.
>>539832326>They are the kind of whites that will shoot you for your copper wire and show no remorse.So you hate White people and adopt jewish-enforced stereotypes about us.
>>539832878Every post I see I just get shown more and more not only that you are a dumb ignorant boomer full of White Guilt and you hate Americans. The Scots-Irish built this country and are the elite of its warrior class. Keep on talking shit though. Civilization is the only thing keeping you from being a victim and you will be - or you'll go right back to pretending to be White, forge your genealogy, hope nobody can fact-check you and hide in the communities we erect.
>>539835977I mean like restore the nation in its present, whole state. I no longer have such a hope.
>>539832326You know what I'm starting to like the Irish more than the anglos. Let's get some clans going
>>539831143know what else is good for the economy? toenail fungus.
>>539837030fucking based. the "melting pot" "give us your poor" bullshit was all pro-replacement kikery for cheap labor and cultural/ethnic subversion. 99% of spics side with their own kind and couldn't build or maintain the West if they wanted to.
This thread is like if a dude started advocating for reinstating landlines and limiting cellphone use to combat tech dependency. We are so far beyond your perception of reality that this doesn’t even work as a joke. You’re two decades too late to this discussion.
>>539831424>Saved by hispanics. You mean infested and turned into barrios while the spics there provide cheap labor to kike agricultural barons or construction companies putting up shoddy McMansions. I've had the misfortune to live in and close to several of these places and they're neither safe, nor well integrated.
