>>539836577
>For example here is The high God and Yahweh are different gods, Yahweh was assigned the nation of Israel by the high God
This is how Romans understood it btw

I would translate El Elyon as the Supreme God.

By the way, there is such thing as the holy spirit in Judaism. But it is actually "holy wind" רוח הקודש, which I would think refers to like a holy inspiration. It is not a being.

But it is one of many holy things in the world other than man. (Angels, seraphim, cherubim). The holy wind and all these other holy things, unlike humans, do not have free will. They are just instruments of God.

From a secular point of view, yeah you can say that Judaism evolved out of a polytheistic mileiu. For example, Baal was simply the Zeus of the Caananite/Phoenician/Ugaritic pantheon.

Baal in Hebrew literally means "master" or "husband"

If you are really interested in this stuff, you can read Cyrus Gordon's The common background of Greek and Hebrew civilizations and his other works.

The guy was kind of a quack but he made some really interesting observations.

Anyway, I would like to conclude JEWS WERE ORIGINALLY NIGGERS. JEWS ARE THE MASTER RACE. JUDAISM IS THE ONLY TRUE RELIGION.

>>539836577
>Let us make man in our image, after our likeness...
>Behold, the man is become as one of us...
>Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language...
it's an established fact that this desert cult borrowed/stole their religious beliefs from every other civilization that they happened to brush up against over the centuries.
the religion gradually evolved from polytheism, to henotheism, then eventually to monotheism

>>539836577
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it's a very idiomatic thing in hebrew to make repetitious remarks, to call someone or something by multiple names. and in previous books we see el shaddai and YHVH used interchangeably.
this is the "rhyming" of ideas instead of sounds.
for instance from isiaiah 1:8
>"The daughter of Zion is left like a booth in a vineyard, like a lodge in a cucumber field, like a besieged city."
OH MY GOSH THERE'S THREE ISRAELS GUISE!!!1
the verse in your pic is saying that the most high, who is YHVH, gave land to all of the nations as an inheritance. However, YHVH's inheritance is his people, the ones he has chosen from all of the people of the world. you really have to stretch to say this means there are multiple Gods.
this idea also clashes with all the concepts of God already given in the torah. for instance, in the exact same book, deuteronomy, earlier on it says,
deut 4:35
>"You were shown these things so that you would know that the LORD is God; besides him there is no other."
so the use of multiple names for God is common, and is seen throughout the bible, especially in the psalms. in genesis he is usually known as el shaddai, which means the God of forces, or God almighty.
some more examples of God being the sole God:
deut 4:39
>"Acknowledge and take to heart this day that the LORD is God in heaven above and on the earth below. There is no other."
deut 32:39
>"See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god beside me. I put to death and I bring to life, I have wounded and I heal; no one can deliver out of my hand."
and the shema prayer which jews do 2 times a day and is written on mezuzot:
deut 6:4
>"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one."

so you see you really need to take that quote out of context, and ignore other evidence for this to be convincing.

>>539836577
If you are a Son of the Most High, what are you?
>I have said, YE ARE ELOHIM.
Elohim says;
>LET US
>FASHION MAN
>IN OUR IMAGE
Does that sound like The Lord God to you?
In Genesis, The Lord God first shows up to breathe life into Adam.

This is why your Bible matters, even the KJV can be insensitive to the difference between Elohim, 'The Lord', vs The Lord God proper.
>And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord.
-- This is Eve admitting she fucked The Serpent first.

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>>539837718

Firstly el shaddai doesnt mean all mighty, but god of destruction. Shaddai comes from the root word Shadad (שדד), which means "to despoil, devastate, or destroy."

It litterally is the antigod aka "satan", and not the god of love.

In leviticus yhwh tells to sacrifice two goats to him and azazel. Is azazel just some other word for god?

Or how about this? Who asks israel to count their army satan or yhwh? Both passages talk about the same incident.

>Again the anger of the Lord burned against Israel, and he incited David against them, saying, “Go and take a census of Israel and Judah.”
>2 Samuel 24

>Satan rose up against Israel and incited David to take a census of Israel. 2 So David said to Joab and the commanders of the troops, “Go and count the Israelites from Beersheba to Dan. Then report back to me so that I may know how many there are.”
>1 Chronicles 21

And yes, you can find contradictory passages in the OT. There are litterally hundreds of those. That doesnt negate those passages, vecause old testament is not one book, but collection of books by different authors.

Here are contradictions:

>1And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham, and said unto him, Abraham: and he said, Behold, here I am -genesis 22:1

>13 When tempted, no one should say, “God is tempting me.” For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone; - James 1:13

Here too

>Who is a God like you, who pardons sin and forgives the transgression of the remnant of his inheritance? You do not stay angry forever but delight to show mercy. - Micah 7:18

>Through your own fault you will lose the inheritance I gave you. I will enslave you to your enemies in a land you do not know, for you have kindled my anger, and it will burn forever.” - Jeremiah 17:4

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>>539836577
The old testament should have never been included in the Bible

Read the image, then read John 8:44.
Also notice that one teaching of Jesus was that no one has ever seen the Father. The conclusion is that Yahweh cannot be God. The OT god and the NT God are different entities. John 8:44.

bunch of cryptojews arguing about ancient jewish poetry because jews demand it fuckingsage

>>539839662

No, this is important. Jews are arguing that god gave them the land of palestine, that they are made into the image of god, that they have divine spirits, and gentiles dont. If OT's yahwei is litterally satan, antigod, the god if destruction and not the highest one El Elyon then it majes their whole case robust.

>>539836577
It's called "plurale maiestatis", in the Old Testament God and other people were referred as plural as a form of respect

>>539839214
it can mean God of destruction. and who says God can only be about love? that isn't in judaism or the bible.
shaded can also mean "to overpower," "destroy," or "be strong." so this is why it's translated as God almighty, because he is the strongest, none is greater.
>azazel
this is incorrect. one goat is sacrificed, and the one who is called azazel is chased out into the wilderness, it is not sacrificed, and it IS azazel. literally everything about that statement is incorrect.
none of this supports your multi-God theory. none of it.
>satan
the problem here is you are viewing satan through a christian lens. and possibly a marcionite one. in judaism, satan works for God. in job, he is one of the angels attending God in his court. he needs permission to do what he does. he only has the power God gives him. satan is also not the snek, he's just snek. him being satan is again a christian innovation.
>contradictory passages
yes, there are some in the historical books. this does not support your thesis, or argue against anything i said.
>new test passages
i don't care about those, christianity is a false religion. it's also why atheists attack the idea of God, as the whole thing is ridiculous. it's like oil and water, and only constant thrashing around will keep them mixed together.
there was no set masoretic text version until about 15th century for jews. orthodox jews larp different because of the zohar and all of these ideas that each letter of the torah was there from before the beginning of the world. this is plainly contradicted even in the talmud
https://youtu.be/3a0HHQuU7dE
this guy is a former haredi who talks about the nonsense the orthodox get into.
and the verses about the census can easily be reconciled via knowing that satan works for God. so either way it came from God, it's just one version says God used satan to do it. he's like the secret shopper, tests your mettle and loyalty.

Every race has a god and a Christ figure.

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>>539839450
it also says satan is the ruler of this world, while the old testament says the opposite, that God rules in heaven and on earth.
your conclusion about them being different Gods is what the gnostics and marcionites thought. also a common view in the occult. another passage in john says that jews worship the devil. this is where the idea of God and the devil being the same thing comes from. it's also every movie you've ever seen. now watch the thread get killed because i posted that.

>>539836577
Debunked by psalm 82. Read Michael Heisers published works. The term elohim simply means spirit thing

>>539841100

Qhh, you revealed yourself, jew. Using talmudic justifications why sacrificing a goat to azazel isnt a sacrifice. Sure bud, but here is where this conversation ends. I will not engage with dishonest actor, jew.

>>539839450
You're reading the wrong fucking gospels. Luke, companion of the jew Paul? No thanks. Read Mark instead. Jesus is almost certainly the enemy of YHWH, and the point was to destroy YHWH forever. They were at war.

In Mark, we even hear the name of the god Jesus was the messenger of. You have to read the original Koine though (and the name isn't in Koine either).

I even suspect that the kike scheme for all these centuries since has been to reconstitute their god, somehow. I couldn't even guess what sort of black magic that'll need, but if it requires six million human sacrifices I wouldn't be shocked.

>>539841621
>Using talmudic justifications
lol, it's in the bible
you are reading headcannon, not the text. you are the dishonest actor and you know it. i've already proven it a couple of times over
>Leviticus 16:10: "But the goat chosen by lot as the scapegoat shall be presented alive before the LORD to make atonement by sending it into the wilderness as a scapegoat."
>Leviticus 16:21-22: "Aaron shall lay both his hands on the head of the live goat, and confess over it all the iniquities of the people of Israel... He shall send it away into the wilderness... The goat shall bear all their iniquities to a remote region."
this explicitly says the goat is not sacrificed, and the goat is called azazel for ritual purposes, not some deity called azazel getting a snack. the other goat is sacrificed. this is plain as day for anyone to read.

>>539836577
When Mozes went to Egypt, the Egyptian priests threw their staffs on the ground. The Egyptian gods then turned those staffs into snakes.

Mo then threw his staff on the ground and Yah transformed it into a bigger snake that ate the other ones. This was to show that Yah >> other gods.

But yes, this means that other gods exist according to the holly bibble.

>>539841245
Horus, Krishna.. Yep.

>>539836577
Jesus is clearly from another, competing line of god, because he implicitly called yahweh a bad father, for giving poisonous snakes to his hungry children (moses et. al in the wildernes)

i wonder which of the 70 gods (apart from yahweh) is Jesus' father..

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With my own weird homebrew religion, I'm pretty sure there's two other Gods on some sort of measurable parity with Bible God.
>Of course Bible God/Iove rules over higher earth or "the sky"
>The Devil/Accuser/Poseidon rules over middle earth/"the sea"
>The Craftsman/Hades rules over lower earth/the underworld "the land"
You can see this all over Greek mythology, Norse mythology, and of course the Bible. My three planets theory is alluded to in the Bible but the teasing of it is interpreted as a total destruction of our own planet, which would only be right if God's promise not to destroy the world has been nullified in a new covenant.
In practical terms, Bible God wrote all the rules for everyone to follow, and then kept to his own realm, since people got really pissed at the implications. The Accuser divided his world into realms of darkness and loves to wage war on the few who follow old Bible God. Our land's ruler just sidesteps the whole mess apparently. Sometimes when the fucking darkness gets out of control here it feels like the Sea has fucking come with its madness and doom.

>>539842509
There is only one God (but many lesser entities).
There can only be one God because there is only one universe. The universe is not above Gods. It was created by the Most High.
satan is the ruler of this world and the second coming of Christ will be the end of his rule and the end of this world (read John 14:3, 2 Peter 3:9-13, Matthew 13:36-43, etc)

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Let me tell you about our lord and savior Flanders and his Flanderization
You see Flanders was so the most religious person around. So much so that being devout was basically the only lasting characteristic that he had. Over time his devoutness kept getting emphasized to a ludicrous degree, since that served a means to an end, and anything that made him grounded, reasonable, or relatable was sidelined. What was left was a very cartoonish thing indeed, with little appeal or grounds to believe in him.

>NIV

>>539842156
That doesn't follow.
An entity on a level nothing else can approach doesn't mean all entities we can't explain are all of the same just with variation.
If the most powerful one is a 'god' and unequaled, the others are something else.

Especially if that 'God' is telling you I am the only one, yo.