Scanning the books involves removing the binding. R*dditors are throwing a tantrum. Are you upset about this like them?No one had any interest in the contents of these books before social media told them to be outraged. No one bothered to scan them before because no one wanted to read them. Forever these books have only existed as the unsellable inventory that burdens used book stores, and if it weren't AI companies giving them a new home, they would continue to be unwanted and unread until they ended up in a landfill.
>>539837413They are shredding them because they want to destroy copies of the actual text while the AI parrots the "revised" version of them, citing it for credibility while no human can actually verify it.
>>539837413does anyone know what industrial book scanner theyre using?
>>539837413based fuck books
Nobody will actually try to stop them from enslaving us though so why bother talking about it
>>539837413fucking jews man, i swear
>>539837638>They are shredding them because they want to destroy copiesThey have to in order to not run a foul with fair-use copyright laws.
>>539837638This, modern book burnings>hey gpt, this book sucks delete it.
>>539837413>be jewish-owned AI company>track down all based literature and accurate history>scan it>destroy the books>edit it after the fact using an AI script to remove problematic language>claim your scans are accurate because it's, "straight from the original">no one can fact-check you on itKill the people responsible for this before it's too late.
>>539837813>they have toNo they don't. And how do we know they are faithfully reproducing what was originally written?
>>539837980Just keep a copy in your basemenr
>>539837413this is propaganda.reddit is falling for it? typical
>>539838062I do. Can you please tell me some books worth storing?
The world that is most efficient for machines disregards human comfort and safety, much less human sentimentality for things like books. Humanity is going to have to make a choice between accepting limitations and staying as we are, or making enormous irreparable sacrifices in pursuit advancement. There is NO possibility of becoming a space faring civilization without completely destroying the Earth and, most likely, modifying ourselves genetically and cybernetically. What I think is we are headed towards the worst of both - irreparably destroying the planet but failing to grasp the brass ring, plunges ourselves back into the Iron Age but with a ruined world lacking in the things we would need to advance back to the same point again (clean air, clean water, trees, arable soil, oil, fuel and oil byproducts, other raw materials). We are climbing a ladder that breaks if we fall off of it. A one-time use escape route.
>>539837980>all based literatureThey're so based that not a single basedboy--or anyone else for that matter--had a shred of interest in them.The kind of books you find in the dumpster after someone cleans their attic.
>>539837413>global book burnings and full blown historical revisionism and censorship on an unprecedented scale Legitimate nightmare fuel.
>>539838355Best booksI still have that copy of canterbury tales
>>539838048Why do you suddenly care about the contents of a book that was so irrelevant that not a single person on the planet was interested in it until the moment someone else bought the last copy?
Who has the photos of all the "colonialist" books in the dumpster?
>>539837413THEY ONLY NEED ONE COPY PER BOOK YOU STUPID WHORE
>>539837638please see>>539839139They take one copy of a book, one, and destroy that one copy to scan it.All the other copies of that book still exist. They aren't tracking down every copy of anything. You can fucking scan your own originals if you want to. THEY'RE NOT TRYING TO END ALL BOOKS
fucking retards
>>539838355>>539838937Dumbass Leaf doesn't get it. Not surprised. You're probably not even Canadian. I mean you guys have such an ingrained lack of interest in yourselves that you just let the government tear down monuments to your equivalent of George Washington and did nothing - not even a protest. Male Canadians are all cucks and their women are all whores.This is how (((they))) do things. It starts with something small like this and they're counting on you not caring while they build up precedent to do something else even bigger.
>>539839500>you don;t believe this one stupid thing therefore you are everything I don't like too shut the fuck up you nigger-brained idiot make a general argument about being able to manipulate scanned media sure, but don;t pretend taking ONE STINKING COPY OF A BOOK THAT WAS MASS PRINTED and destroying the ONE COPY to scan it is a fucking "book burning" you goddamn retard any fucking retard can still take the same book, scan it with a fucking phone app, and point out any edits.
>>539839757This. With r*dditors you can expect them to pretend to not understand things so they can keep acting morally outraged.With poltards, pretending isn't necessary.
>>539837413So they can change the content of the books and gaslight you for noticing.
>>539839500End of an age
>>539838937because it's clear to all of us the real reason why they're doing iterasure of historythey've been scanning books ever since scanners were invented without having to destroy them>muh fair usethis is a load of shit, those books are so old they have no copyright
>>539837703shut up nigger go play ebonics somewhere else
>>539837413I happen to like books a lot and I dislike the people who are programming the AI because they're faggots.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ULHkNLveXZs&pp=0gcJCaMLAYcqIYzv&ra=m
>>539837413Oh my god its just like the water.Everything that goes into AI data centers gets obliterated from existence.
>>539837413Fuck no. Something being old does not make it rare or even valuable. You can go out right now and buy a 100+ year old book for very little money. It'll be some random volume from a series in a language you'll never both to learn, but it'll be LE OLD.No wonder fucking plebbitors are in a tizzy about this. Faggots gotta constantly virtue signal about AI lmao
>>539838937why are you making that assumption? because you’re a shill. you don’t think, you go by your script and engage for the purpose of (you)s
>>539841226>Always the Amerishit with the reductive take >y-y-you leave the corporation alone Fag nation
>>539838937>so irrelevant they are being purchased for thousands This is the actual Great Reset moron
>>539839292Yeah seems like they are actuallyhttps://www.news.com.au/technology/online/internet/ai-labs-buy-scan-shred-millions-of-rare-books/news-story/0c3b45a67093ab462a587a0348538ce9
>>539842121A nation of retarded fucking bootlickers. Corporate whores.
>>539839139>>539839292you forgot the part where these are RARE BOOKS that are likely the ONLY COPY IN EXISTANCEKIKEpure destruction of history
>>539837703Fuck you
>>539838937You're not arguing in good faith
>>539839292You would want more than one copy to eliminate errors. The more the better
They only need one copy of each book though
>>539838062How do you enlighten others with it when it's in your basement?
>>539837413They dont want you to read anon
>>539842572Government should force them to give a copy to some national library.Government also should force them to share books between AI companies (else so many companies can each destroy a copy).But of course the USA is "nooo muh small gubmint" so even destructive actions can't easily be reeduced.
>>539838062There are millions of different books and they take up a shitload of space. A huge 24 room building only holds about 35,000 books. I've been getting a lot of weird big orders it's probably this. I assumed it was minorities starting bookstores with free government shekels.
>>539842608By learning ithttps://youtu.be/ZaLJ10v4xUA?si=Jsgmta_CVupUp6BN
>>539842572Please build your alternative AI model that propagates the original in its in censored form to ask the users of the internetOh, you can't do that? Then your rare book will not compete with anthropic's version
>>539839139No that is pure cope otherwise a used dictionary wouldn't go for $350 and demand I ship it from the US to the UK Senate Library. They only need one dictionary right retard? No they are destroying them dipshit.That way when Merriam-Webster is live update the meaning of the word preference during a SCOTUS hearing you'll theoretically have to go to them to get your word update it's pure 1984. The Americans vocabulary gets smaller every year. You can't even say niggardly anymore.
>>539842696>Anon's hour-long reading of Mein Kampf, original copy, uncensored>6 views>AI algorithm removes the video, bans the account, reports Anon to the ADL + FBI
>>539838937Question is why are jewish AI conglomerates, which receive billions of dollars of taxpayer money in funding and are directly tied to mass surveillance, media manipulation and narrative pushing, so interested in hoarding and destroying physical texts.
>>539842922You silly cunt, you didn't understand what I said but look atyour first example of a contentious rare text lol. You're a simpleton, so tomorrow belongs to you anyway. Go back to bed
>>539843020i mean at a technological level it makes sense, it's training datasometimes it's not a nefarious plan beyond this being what is commercially incentivized. it can still be very bad for society.
>>539837413why the fuck did they call it project Panama? wtf
>>539837638Fpbp.The goal of AI is to permanently rewrite history, enforce race and hate crime, and homogenize the goyim. Not one scanned book will be left unedited. 1984 is like a children's story compared to the reality of totalitarian control.
>>539840892>erasure of historyHow does destroying ONE COPY of each book erase history? Lets say that among these used books the previous owners are unloading are ones so rare that they are the only copy. What do you imagine those books contain? A secret history or ancient knowledge? Just cause something is old, doesn't mean it's not slop.
>>539843312this doesn't really enable them to rewrite the famous books like 1984 thowhat it potentially does is give them exclusive knowledge about some stuff in the past AND/or just good (hopefully THE best) writing skills. whether or not this definitely does work out with more books is insubstantial and they'll also not care how rare exactly a book is, they'll just feed it into the machine
>>539838048>And how do we know they are faithfully reproducing what was originally written?just compare it with your own copy
>>539837413It's because the publishers sued Archive.org into oblivion for letting people check out multiple copies of books in their library access program during COUGH-19.The AI companies are basically using the "analog" loophole to get around jew lawyers.
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op is a homosexual jew
>>539837413my lesbian aunt wrote a gay ass book on eating vagina and right now there are millions of copies of that garbage around the globe. now imagine how many copies a good book has
>>539843192>it's training dataWhat training data, they've already scraped the entire internet for every archived piece of text in the history of mankind and all their shitty computer program can output is AI slop, no matter how much data you will throw at it it will always produce the same slop, because it can never replace the human element, the whole AI thing is just a distraction for the masses, a new toy to play with for retarded reddit basedboys to gush over while societal norms are slowly eroded away behind their back, but of course they don't give a shit because they can ask Grok to say bing bing wahoo or whatever.
>>539843483shut the fuck up, leaf FAGGOT. bounce on a dick.POOPOOPEEEPEEDOODOOCHOOCHOO
>>539843614I feel like burgers and other nations with AI should still try to somewhat tenaciously write their state / national government to DEMAND copies of these digital books for the national archives.Yes some of you don't completely trust the state but shit it's the most realistic attempt to preserve some culture for now apart from just helping to keep (physical or DRM free digital copies of) books somehow
>>539837660The bookenstompfer 9000
Ah yes the old " Alexandrian Library" scam. Burn it down but you loot the damn thing first. Rinse and repeat
What a pity, should aliens exist, humans would have to trust us once you're gone, eh?
>>5398437431. no, they don't have the entire internetin fact they started charging each other extortionate costs (or don't offer) for this datathe internet is now full of anti archival anti scraping measures because they want to sell this data at a premium2. the internet didn't have most these booksthey want the books to train on3. the output is better or even much better than the average book when you're not dealing with the limitations they impose on (you), the censorship the impose on (you)
>>539837413I don't care about the vaccinated
>>539841322It's not an assumption, they are quite literally irrelevant. These books with 1 copy have been read by between 0 times by anyone.
>>539837413>Are you upset about this like them?yes, but the rothschild private library is the largest collection of single edition texts that are anywhere in the world and they're gonna have to put that shit in if they're completionists. so i'm divided.
>>539837413>Saars, do not redeemLol, jeet can't read without a txt to speech app.
>>539837413How often are you going to spam this thread?
>>539837638Fpbp
Are there well documented cases of incredibly rare books providing some profound unforeseen use after being investigated? This just sounds like a fantastical Hollywood sketch. People suddenly freaking out about the disappearance of these books that are rare due to no one caring about them is similar to how people get upset about the bankruptcy of a local business that is only going under because no one in the community ever actually buys anything from it.
>>539837413just spread the word that they have been destroying copies of the Quran and let the muslims do the rest
>>539842170They're buying cheap training data, unsellable inventories of used book stores. The current sellers likewise bought them in bulk when the previous used book store went bankrupt because no one wanted them.
>>539844163It's the destruction of white history, anon. Even the 1611 King James Bible calls the Jews "wicked" in its letter to the reader.
>>539844163thats a fallacy
>>539837638Truer words were never spoken.Death to transhumanists!
>>539838367Remember the "cyber pandemic" that bald bastard of the WEF was talking about years ago?
>>539843312>The goal of AI is to permanently rewrite history, enforce race and hate crime, and homogenize the goyim. Not one scanned book will be left unedited. 1984 is like a children's story compared to the reality of totalitarian control.This is also true and as good a comment as the first.
YES. BE A GOOD GOY AND OBEY. https://youtu.be/tGJEN8b1YWs
>>539839757Nobody is crying about the mass produced books. The problem is that they are scanning and destroying rare books that have existing copies in the single digits. This is the issue at hand.
>>539841226>Fuck no. Something being old does not make it rare or even valuable.Most Americans are basically niggers.
>>539837413So...where they shred books, they will next shred humans?
>>539839292They are chopping the bindings off to feed the individual pages into a machine aren't they?
Can it be verified tho?
>>539844486Look at all that burning pornography and communist propaganda.
>>539837413>Oh no, now there are only 9,999 physical copies left of some random outdated textbook from 1963 that literally no one has wanted or cared about or read for decades! We should just shut down everything because I feel some kind of weird White guilt over technological development!Just more retarded, low information mid-wit AI panic virtue signalling. The exact same people who are deebly goncerned about muh used books this week were the same ones who suddenly became experts on datacenters last week after seeing boomer tier facebook memes that made them aware that datacenters existed.
>>539837413just print the book.
>>539844225indeed often it was only people who saw the societal non-monetary value that preserved books.it's a shame how reckless feckless shitty generations of politicians can destroy so much knowledge/cultural inheritance by just briefly not caring or even discouraging copying information>>539844510yea it's a more reliable cheaper faster way to digitize books vs the one where you try to flip pages with the book still intact
>>539837413Scanning the books involves removing the binding.no it doesn't, retardthey're doing it because they want to be the only source of rare written knowledge
>>539837413don't care99% of books are garbage and are barely useful as training data
>>539844255I don’t think the King James Bible is at any risk of disappearing. People are bringing up incidents in the past like the destruction of the library of Alexander, but that’s completely irrelevant since any text in the modern day can be easily mass produced if a relatively small amount of people care about it and easily digitized if a single person cares at all.>>539844284Which one?>>539844457The only thing niggers have going for them is their racial seniority. There is no value to something being old. Obsession with the age of something is just another form of venerating quantity but with units of time.
>>539838937A lot of what we know about the ancient world comes from really uninteresting shit like ledgers. Only niggers like you think nothing of destroying for no reason.
>>539844557Yeah yeah, but according to (((them))), a book holocaust is almost a real holocaust. How ironic.
>>539844604this is one of the more expensive slower methods so they mostly don't use this I thinkwell yes the libraries that want to preserve books use this or even careful manual page flipping
>>539837813>They have to in order to not run a foul with fair-use copyright laws.No, that makes absolutely zero sense and you are clearly retarded.They are disassembling books because it is much faster and efficient to scan and digitize them page by page instead of trying to keep them in one piece.Then when they are done scanning the stack of pages, they destroy them because none of these books aren't particularly rare or valuable.There is zero rational reason to try to reassemble them into book form. Literally no one wanted or cared about these books when they were still in the form of a book, and they are even less valuable now so they get shredded and recycled.
>>539843953>no, they don't have the entire internet>in fact they started charging each other extortionate costs (or don't offer) for this dataWhy are you contradicting your own statements?They don't have the data but they do have the data but charge for it?>the internet is now full of anti archival anti scraping measures Keyword being "now", measures which were established after they already ran their train.>the internet didn't have most of these booksEver heard of anna's archive? There are tons of internet libraries, torrents, etc, etc..., all which were pulled by the same people who whine about copyright laws and prosecute people for downloading books.>the output is better or even much better than the average bookMaybe if your only point of reference is fanfic schlock, but you can tell in an instant when a piece of text was written by AI and it reads like the most contrived trash you've ever laid your eyes on, because it has no soul, it's a cheap imitation of what your shitty program thinks is a human text, but it has no humanity so it can't reproduce anything a human would write, only sterile, preprogrammed, algorhitmic blocks.
>>539842370You retards act like they got their hands on the Necrinomicon.There has been more slop published than gems. Not everything is worth preserving. Consider an awful paperback novel by a talentless author, those will quickly become rare when everyone throws their copy in the trash after the first chapter.
It's fine, most books are totally shit and anything worth read was already digitized, like book rel>https://classics.mit.edu/Aristotle/poetics.1.1.htmlThat being said I actually enjoy binding my own books with leather covers.So the real sin here remains how expensive printer ink is.
>>539844633I was answering your initial question. >Are there well documented cases of incredibly rare books providing some profound unforeseen use after being investigated?I'm the only Christian I know who has bothered reading the 1611 KJB with all of the notes from the translators and apparently the Jews had a bad enough reputation in 1611 to be called "wicked". But that part of the Bible has been taken out and now we have the Scofield Bible telling the Christians to be Zionists... if the media didn't have an incredible amount of power, the Jews wouldn't have gone into it. But it seems you're interested in a different conversation now, after having downplayed the danger of a modern book burning, so this will be my last reply to you.
>>539844701it's literally a scanner with an integrated air suction to lift pages. it's slow but it's also the cheaper solution to the high speed double sided scanners you feed individual pages into>>539837638fpbp you keep the originals for as long as possible
>>539844850>So the real sin here remains how expensive printer ink is.buy a 3d printer and have it write with a pen on paper in which ever font you like.
>>539842121>>539842270Based
>>539842370>>539842871Rare books can be scanned with slower non-destructive methods. If they just wanted to buy and destroy controversial rare books they've been able to do that all along. If they just wanted to fabricate books, they could already do that also. And guess what faggot? If you own the only copy of a book you can tell people whatever the fuck you want is in it anyway and who's going to stop you? It's easier to completely fabricate a book and say it's a scanned tome than it is to scan an existing one and edit it to fit your agenda.
>>539843606What copy? The one they farhenheit'd?
>>539845263the one you own or if you don't own it you can buy it. you can buy tons of books online.
>>539844939yo low key based, unfortunately I don't have one cause my parents hate me and thought a 3d printer is useless but my mom getting routine 300 dollar beautician care is completely ok.Though I'm a grown ass man now, so do you recommend a particular model? I hear resin laser printing is best but obviously wouldn't get the 2d printing hack.
>>539843537They think 1 copy rare books that no one has read either contain the TRUE secret history, and they want to destroy the evidence; or they'll lie and claim it does to rewrite history when no one can verify.
they will destroy books, digital media, the internet, etc. and make it impossible to own hardware because the goal is to limit the niggercattle horde's access to compute and energy. Don't say I didn't warn you. I've been posting about this for 10+ years.
>>539845263>we have this copied tome from an original source>no you can't see it>we destroyed the original even though non-destructive scanning is the norm for rare things>you have to read and believe everything that's been transcribed in itI will admit that this is literally the oldest trick in the book but considering this isn't Moses' day I think the elites have developed more sophisticated methods
>>539845330>you can buy it>it's only available as an (((ebook)))>because the (((ebook company))) destroyed all the copies it bought>trust us goyim we are making all efforts to preserve knowledge Am I close to the mark?
>>539844824jew alert
>>539845566Checked and that's literally what they are doing We'll have to start hoarding physical copies, my basement is full of seasonal stuff but I guess I can use the attic
>>539845570>>because the (((ebook company))) destroyed all the copies it bought>Am I close to the mark?no because they're only destroying the copy they scanned. there are plenty of physical copies you can buy right now.
>>539843312>The goal of AI is to permanently rewrite historyHistory is already whatever version of events you want to believe, especially with schizophrenic right wingers that have as many versions of every historic event as leftoids have genders.Most of them already think that history is a lie, so rewriting it won't make any difference, it will just be easier to dismiss as "AI slop".
>>539845685>buy them now or lose them forever goyim>no they did not buy all available copies, what are you talking about? Closer now?
>>539844222Digits say this solution will work
>>539844810> Why are you contradicting your own statements?> They don't have the data but they do have the data but charge for it?You actually don't understand the concept of different people/companies? You don't understand that buying a rich company/person's current favorite thing will typically only happen for absolutely insane amounts of money or not at all?>Keyword being "now", measures which were established after they already ran their train.No! Most of them didn't get nearly as much as they'd have liked and they see it in their AI models. They're now compensating with books.> Ever heard of anna's archive? There are tons of internet libraries, torrents, etcSomething like 6.5M out of 130M books? Maybe 5% of books, if even that?They want to get close to the 130M, duh.> Maybe if your only point of reference is fanfic schlock, but you can tell in an instant when a piece of text was written by AIAlmost no one can tell now with the better video AI. Why do you think you can tell with text?
>>539845761a little closer. no one is stopping you from preserving the books you like.
Ironically, if there is a reactionary movement to buy up and maintain these rare books then AI companies would effectively be doing more to preserve these texts by seeking to destroy them than if they did nothing.
>>539845570Wow an accessible version of a book that you never would have read the original of and nobody's bothered to copyThere is literally no book that is so rare it has no copies, that you would have ever possibly gotten access to in your life. Everything novel or interesting has already been copied. Everything too rare to copy previously would have never been read by you in person. What is this mysterious genre of books where, although they have been copied previously, nobody bothered to copy them more so there are few enough copies that you could conceivably buy them all and destroy them, and yet they contain incomprehensibly important shit that could be edited to manipulate the masses?
>>539837638Jews are a national security threat that need ww2 jap treatment.
>>539837813>a Jew said...Lmao Jews are terrorists that deserve genocide in minecraft.
>>539844021The outrage is performative. If people actually cared they'd be a million times more bothered by the Vatican's archive of ancient historic documents being kept private instead of scanned and available for anyone to study. If Rothschilds or any other private library lets their books be scanned, it wont be done destructively. Plebs wont be able to read those preserved books any more than they'll be able to read the destroyed ones, but they're more concerned about the last copy of the worlds worst romance novel being destroyed.
>>539845436While I am actually thinking that their more immediate motivation is that this is simply the cheapest way to get training data to make a more competent AI, I think you're basically right regardless: If they have financial motivations or legal pressure to do so, they'll probably alter the knowledge they captured when their AI responds to requests. They already do censor for a lot of reasons after all, including dictatorships taking issue with history.
>>539837413I only fear for the human mind. For human creativity and human problem solving. The more thought is automated, the less ability the population has. When AI can tell you what is logical and what is not, when AI can tell you what is art and what is not art, what is right and what is wrong, then you're suddenly banking on the hope that those who own the AI will not manipulate it, or at least that users will spot being manipulated.Do you feel confident that you can always tell what is true from false? Are you confident that you have never been tricked, never led astray? Are you confident that the next generation will be able to? Or the one after that?I don't fear AI because of the slop. But I do fear the human mind will become slop in itself. Online complaint is often that people are cattle, but what they should fear is the future p-zombie.
>>539837638>>539837413>>539844906Any book worth a fuck was digitized years ago and can be downloaded as a .pdf in 2 minutes if you're not a helpless retarded zoomer
>>539844588>indeed often it was only people who saw the societal non-monetary value that preserved books.My grandmother saved phonebooks. I'm sure there's boomers that have preserved a copy of every TV Guide for posterity. Kids these days don't see the value contained in those pages and will chuck that history into the waste bin instead of taking on the burden of preserving it for their kids.
>>539845685>there are plenty of physical copies you can buy right now.I run across shitloads of stuff where I'm holding a physical copy of a book and it's nowhere online you are a fucking retarded nigger faggot.Doesn't have to be old either. The physical world is a lot larger then this multiple times already purged commercialized shithole we call "web 4.0:"
>>539847450actually to me it seems like younger generations here have even somewhat MORE of an appreciation for past works. YMMV.but the physical private storage (housing) is an issue, so they can't actually collect as much themselvesand they also don't even have the same relative wealth so even less decisions are made by them in a financial sense
>>539844604>they're doing it because they want to be the only source of rare written knowledgeIt was done to satisfy copyright law. Their lawyers correctly interpreted the law and the cited this in the ruling in favor of them. Destroying the physical copy when they scanned them ensures that it's fair use, because they're only transferring the material from one format to another. If they kept the books it could be argued that they were making illegal copies that violate copyright.
>>539848080Copyright law is already satisfied by the fact that the copyright has probably expired on all of these old rare books.You're a Jew.
>>539837413>Scanning the books involves removing the binding.You can scan without destroying them but it's more expensive. Destroying the written record is their goal >>539837638
>>539837638Human’s are truly vile creatures.
