The more I read the bible the more I think Jesus really was a communist
He literally tells you that he's a magician who was employed to get one over on the stupid romans, which he did.It really is a religion for the mentally disabled who want to be told what to think and what to do.
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>>539854351He wasn’t a capitalist
>>539854351Jesus was against woke politics and sexual degeneracy and promiscuity which the left pushesMatt 5:27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:Matt 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.Matt 5:29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast [it] from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not [that] thy whole body should be cast into hell.Matt 5:30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast [it] from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not [that] thy whole body should be cast into hell.
>>539854351Early Christians were communists. Communism actually works for communities up to Dunbar's Number. This is what tricks people into thinking it works on a larger scale.
He was just very antisemitic
>>539854351Joining a commune voluntarily and forming a state are not the same thing.
>>539854484The irony is that communism only works in small christian clans that are racially homogenous.That's why communism never works because it's literally not possible outside of that.
>>539854501yep, His disciples were willing to live together and to sell all of their possessions. they weren't threatened by federal goons at gunpoint
>>539854484>abusive relationships work, if you keep the numbers low enough that you can keep everyone in lineCool. Cool. You do that.
Strange. The more I read the bible the more I think that jesus was just explaining how terrible of a person jacob was and how stealing the earthly inheritance of isaac meant nothing in terms of the blessing of god, and that it was time for the lineage of esau to follow the second half of the inheritance that isaac and god left for them.
I am tired of having to explain that parable.Needle is a weird translation of the archaic name of the keyhole arch, it meant that a richfag, with all his power and money, could easily fall to temptation and abuse given by those things.To reach heaven he needed to walk straight and very precisely through life, like a camel through a needle/keyhole arch. It means a very disciplined life, not an impossibility.
>>539854484Why didn't Jesus say it wouldn't work on a larger scale?
>>539854656This cope is fucking retarded, too bad I was told slow to inb4it, can't expect much from literal shitskin beaners though
>>539854351You know there is going to be some rich guy who will build the world's largest needle and have 500 camels walk through it just to prove jesus wrong
>>539854656This is not even remotely true this is just cope richfags came up with there is no mythical needle eye arch way other than in their minds.
>>539854656Yes but Jesus didn't say that. He could have easily cleared that up.
>>539854745Settle down Mandeep, you will get it someday
Then you don't understand Jesus or communism.
>>539854351He is epitome of altruism, of course he's a commie.
>>539854351He hated Jews. You expect him to like capitalism?
>>539854351The Aramaic translation says it's easier for a rope to go through the eye of a needle, which makes more sense to me
>>539854786>richfagsYou better start coping too. Modern poorfags are a lot richer than most people in jesus's time.
>>539854656even with that cope of an interpretation, then what is the point of vastly greater wealth than others if not to exploit others and enjoy reckless hedonism?
you can't enter the spiritual Kingdom of Heaven if you still have attachment to the material
>>539854467But he was in favor of all their woke retarded economic policies. Two things can be true, Rapejeet.
That quote is literally copypasted from Buddha Gautama, six hundred years before Jesus. Thing is, it makes a whole lot more sense out of an inheriting prince than a fucking carpenter.
>>539854968Honestly either way the passage is about how everything is possible under god, so how much money you have it actually irrelevant the point is you can't fake it to get in so you need genuine faith[spoiler]which I don't because Jesus seems like a big fat phony to me[/spoiler]
>>539855055He never said the government should take your money and give it to whomever, he said YOU should give your money to the needy. Which Christians do more than anyone else in the US.
>>539854467>Jesus was against woke politics and sexual degeneracy and promiscuitySo was every browncel back then. They still are actually. It's the defining feature of Islam.
I don't think he was a professor of economics.
>>539854786>there is no mythical needle eye arch wayLiterally one of the middle east's most iconic forms>>539854791>He could have easily cleared that upI think He thought it was easy enough to understand but it is an obtuse term
>>539855097I said settle down pajeet
>>539855152>Literally one of the middle east's most iconic formsOh my god its so exactly nothing like a needle.
>>539855100Ok then why even single out rich people. I mean he's basically saying with God all things are possible BUT if you're rich the possibility is so small that it's practically impossible.
>>539855055stop equating good will and selflessness with communism, you covert commie. you aren't a "good" person, you self-righteous twat
>>539854351Believing in Jesus is depressing. What is the point of earth life if everything is about the afterlife?Once you see that the devil controls everything on Earth now it's like I'm just waiting to die. Not suicidal, but wondering why is this reality even a thing? What is the higher purpose?
>>539854996enjoy washing nigger feet for eternity
>>539855152>think He thought it was easy enough to understandSo the god that created the universe was mistaken?
>>539854351>AIEEEE THIS TEXT TELLS ME MY MESSIAH WANTS ME TO BE A GOOD PERSON FOR THE SAKE OF BEING A GOOD PERSON! THIS MAKES IT COMMUNIST! AIEEEEEEEEE!This is why people hate you christcucks.
>>539854351It means being rich isnt a get-into-heaven free cardWhy do autistics not understand this?
>>539855229because biblical afterlife is infinitely better than defining life as you exist to just to die. not everyone is content with the idea of eternal nothingness after death, people who do are suicidal and miserable
>>539855222Because jesus is a literally miracle worker that can totes do it all regardless of physics, logically he is pointing out greed is a sin so a rich man would be logically "fatter" to make the point but we all need the jesus.
>>539855245i'm not washing your feet, you reprobate
>>539855229Idk. It seems to me the juice isn't worth the squeeze. The verse about how you don't care about your wife/husband in heaven is depressing. So you do all this goody 2 shoes shit your whole life and your reward is you get to be some sort of passionless eunuch that worships God all day. It's indistinguishable from hell.
>>539855229the goal is learned helplessness. then you will be easier to control and enslave. this is the matrix
>>539855311Pretty sure he says you can't follow two masters money and god so you should give up one. Try to misinterpret that one shyster.
>>539855311You're the autistic one friend. It's quite obviously a probabilistic statement.
>>539855323why cant there be a third option? maybe not everything must be framed by the architecture of one book with dunious translations and interpretations
>>539855311No it means you should give up your wealth. That's what Jesus tells the rich young man; if you want to be as pure in faith as possible, you should hand away your things to the poor and follow Jesus.Which is exactly what all the apostles did and exactly how millions of priests down the ages have interpreted the statement, which got formalized as the "vow of poverty."So if you're a Christian and you really believe in Christ, why would you hesitate? This life is temporary anyway, heaven is forever.
>>539855222>why even single out rich peopleThere are no poor people in the Epstein files.
>>539855503so socialism?
>>539855501because reality is black and white, good and evil, light and darkness. pick a team already
>>539855343It seems to me he's plainly saying being rich damns you to hell. This is consistent with his parables and teachings where a common theme is giving up all of your excess to God/the poor. Jesus thought sitting on any amount of wealth that could help others is a mortal sin. Plain and simple.
>>539855229>What is the higher purpose?To teach you how to love virtue and hate evil. Have you never read any theology or philosophy at all? Even pre-Christian philosophers knew that the point of life was to cultivate virtue and turn away from sensuality.>>539855369It seems that way to you because you don't understand what love is. Love isn't a passion, it's the absence of passion. You don't love somebody unless you know how to look past your own emotions regarding them. If you can't do that, then every single interaction you will ever have with them will be selfish. Love has to be universal, because love has to be objective. You don't love particular people in Heaven, because in order to even reach Heaven you must already love your neighbor as yourself.
>>539855557reality is not black and white, shades or grey and rainbows, friendo. black and white only exists in your closed minded, simplistic thinking.
how many people did he send to gulag?encouraging people to share is not the same thing as being a communist
>>539854351“Eye of a needle” was slang for a gatehouse back then. Driving a stubborn camel through a city gate is a pain in the ass. In other words rich people can get into heaven but it’s more difficult
>>539855569no, Jesus was saying that materialism will separate you from the God of the spirits, and will lead you to Hell. 1Tim 6:5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.1Tim 6:6 But godliness with contentment is great gain.1Tim 6:7 For we brought nothing into [this] world, [and it is] certain we can carry nothing out.1Tim 6:8 And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.1Tim 6:9 But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and [into] many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition.1Tim 6:10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.1Tim 6:11 But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.
The Camel and the needle are real things, Heaven isn't.
>>539855624>Have you never read any theology or philosophycite your sources
>>539855637you don't know where your destination is that's why you're clueless and insecure about all of these things.inb4>i'm confident in not knowing anything and in being cluelesswe can tell
I mean jesus had a point, look at what becomes of you when you become rich. You become a international human trafficking pedophile, cannibal and satanic magician.
>>539855624>You don't love somebody unless you know how to look past your own emotions regarding them. If you can't do that, then every single interaction you will ever have with them will be selfish. Love has to be universal, because love has to be objective.This is an extremely sterile and cucked view of love.
>>539855657>>539855662Sorry friends but there's no real refutation here.
>>539854351
>>539854411have you ever dealt with goyim?they ARE menrally disabled and DO need to be told what to think and what to do.if you don't think so,go open a retail business and then come on back.jews are right about goyim
>>539855727There are plenty of rich people that aren't like this. And there's nothing magical about money that makes you evil.
>>539855722nice try, leaf. itll take more than that
we're saved by faith in Jesus. if we're believing in Jesus and not in anything else such as material wealth or in the material world then we wouldn't have attachment to the world and to our material possessions. it's one of the evidence of having genuine faith
>>539855569And this misrepresentation spawned eons of cope about how the camel is actually a rope and the needle is a gatehouse.Yes, the early faith catered hugely to commies, but jesus himself stayed and politically neutral to get as many converts as he could like any good cult leader.
>>539855821so you DO know where you're going?
>>539855756I’m not a Christian I’m just telling you what he was referring to. He’s talking about a city gate. Camels are dicks, they don’t like walking through those things.
>>539855803>menrallymentally
>>539855229You can be a cuck who waits or you can be a solider of ChristYou can start by not letting the devil control you
>>539855805money itself is evil. i dont prefer that descriptor, but i know my audience. The world has infinite resources to sustain everyone forever. Money is the thing that allows a small number of people to take more than they could ever need for no reason at all.
>>539854351Actually Jesus was referring to a real 'needle' gate in Jerusalem, it was shaped so that it could only walk through after it was unloaded.This was a trade control so that goods could be taxed for the city.It means that when you die, you drop your loot...Thanks for the obvious jesus.
>>539855715EpictetusSenecaPlotinusPlatoAristotleAugustineErasmusWilliam LawKempisBoethiusThomas MoreSwedenborgCudworthThere's also tons of desert saints like Evagrius Ponticus and Maximus the Confessor, and Tibetan saints like Milarepa, Atisa and Tsong Khapa. No matter where you turn in the ancient world, you'll always find the same message. The purpose of life is to cultivate virtue, lead a life of reason, and give up your vices and passions.
>>539855856im right here
>>539855729It's the only view of love, and there's nothing "sterile" about it. It's the greatest expression of selflessness, principle and compassion possible. The kind of love you want is nothing more than personal attachment, which is a selfish and immature misunderstanding.
>>539854571They were literally all executed (aside from John) by the State.
>>539855933i won't listen to or follow someone who takes pride in being clueless in lieu of being "teachable". agnostics are shameless ignoramus
>>539855908Well, that's true. But I'd also say, at least for now, pretty much everyone lives a life that's infinitely more comfortable and excessive than the "rich" people that lived in Roman Judea.
>>539854411>He literally tells you that he's a magician who was employed to get one over on the stupid romans, What passage of the babylonian talmud is this kikeslop from?
>>539855982ok then enjoy sharing your wife in heaven or whatever. Hope you guys die at the same time so you won't have to put your little universalist love cope to the test.
>>539855990where are you going and how will you know when you get there? ill respond even without all the weak insults
>>539856058you won't have any libido in Heaven, or in hell. your miserable state after cooming is true/objective reality of your existence that is separated from God
>>539854351You're a fucking retard comparing tyrannical agrarianism to an occupation revolt, please fucking kill yourself.
>>539855928pretty narrow cherry picked list, all in favor of political borders and government controls. are you calling the ancient greeks virtuous? thats kinda funny
>>539856098i'm going to Heaven because i'm believing in Jesus and not in my own self or in anything else. this faith gives me a pure conscience towards the Holy God who hates sin and selfishness
>>539854351ok then what is a christ?https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MPHyR92MQic&ra=m
>>539854351>communistWell yes, he was a subversive jew
>>539855851Not on this issue. Jesus wasn't "neutral" at all, a fact he states plainly when he says he came to turn a son against his father. Jesus was a radical doomsday cultist who advocated entering poverty on purpose, told his followers not to prepare for tomorrow (Matthew 6:19-34, Luke 12:22-24) and said that nobody then alive would die without seeing the kingdom arrive on Earth (they all did), because he was sure the end times were at hand. If you heard this kind of thing in modernity you would call that person a crazy cult leader, which is what he was.The "communism" argument has always been weak since, number 1, communism was 18 centuries in the future at that point, but more importantly 2, Jesus isn't advocating communism. He's not saying that everyone should work together as a group and share, he's saying throw away all your earthly attachments to make yourself ready for the "kingdom of heaven," whatever that means, and even if nobody returns the favor. So communism is in fact far more realistic and practical than what Jesus tells people to do. Marx, as dumb as he was, was smarter than this guy.And if you think that sounds crazy, glad we agree. If you're not living that way, you're of at least reasonable intelligence and strength of mind, but you're also not a Christian, since you disagree on the fundamentals that Jesus himself sets out about how to live a good life.
>>539856186how old are you. have you read the bible? like read it like a book on your own? i have. i dont think it says what you think it says. also, where do you think you are now?
>>539856179That's barely a fraction of what I've read, I was just offering names off the top of my head. A universal message that spans from 2,400 years before Christ to 1,700 years after Christ is far from narrow or cherrypicked. Even Ptah-Hotep taught that the cultivation of love was the purpose of life, and that a man wasn't a man until he learned to ignore his belly.>are you calling the ancient greeks virtuous? thats kinda funnyThere philosophers were, of course.
>>539856308i'm was an atheist for most of my conscious life. the first time i read the bible to seek the truth was on my own free will and during my free time
>>539856145>your miserable state after coomingI don't experience such a thing.
>>539854351Monasticism is the Christianity of Jesus Christ.Communism is the "Christianity" of Judas Iscariot.Know the difference. It can save your soul.
>>539856318no Kant, Descartes, Nietche even? no problem with the pederasty and gay bathouses of ancient greece? no issues with pythagoras and his secret geometry club?
>>539856366do you feel "full of life" when you're full of libido and sin/lust? because some people feel "alive" or full of life when they're empty of sin and full of God/the Spirit. apples and oranges, i guess
>>539856352answer the question, i didnt ask for your life story. i was raised in christianity, thats how i know how corrupt and wrong it is
>>539856213IT was better when he was just subverting jews themselves, but then (((Paul))) came along and weaponized him
>>539856397Sure, all western thought is corrupted by jewish characterization of the world
>>539856474i just did, i was already an adult when i read the bible on my own free time. i wasn't forced to read it against my will
>>539856496This guy knows things
>>539856366same, i feel great afterwards, like i wanna do it again almost right away. if we were not meant to procreate then why are women in heat all the time?
>>539856434None of those men are philosophers. They spent their lives attacking philosophy. All of them leveled attacks on reason and insisted that reason wasn't a sufficient tool for coming into certain knowledge. That kind of deconstruction refutes itself and leads nowhere, because the proposition that there's no certain knowledge is itself a claim of having certain knowledge. Kant, Descartes and especially Nietzsche were not only unwise, but they were hostile to wisdom.>no problem with the pederasty and gay bathouses of ancient greece?They all preached against promiscuity and sensual living, including Pythagoras. Even Epicurus, the hedonist, preached against lust.
>>539856539do you define your existence as "i exist just to ejaculate"? are you indian by any chance? your diet is probably why you have that kind of reality.
>>539856474and your takeaway was that that the "holy god" hates sin and selfishness? The same god that killed all the innocent firstborn in egypt after he himself hardened the heart of pharoah? The same god who tortured job on a dare from satan? the same god who helped David genocide nations? The same god who claims to be a selfish god and asked for child sacrifice just to see if abraham would do it? The same god who said he would kill adam and eve for eating the fruit and then backed down when confronted by eve? What??
>>539856444I feel "full of life" all the time? I guess not when I'm sick or in the mornings. But yeah sex is pretty great. So is exercising and spending time with my family.
>>539856573well you are just wrong and not well educated. i wont spend any more time with you
>>539856684you're content with life without God, some people aren't. you do you, anon
>>539856597It's a pretty big part of existence. We are animals and we survive through procreation. Why are you so hostile towards sex?
>>539856684agree, i mostly feel full of life when i am alive as well.
>>539856739I've no doubt educated myself more in the last month than you have in your entire life. Hopefully you pick up a book and actually read some of these authors some day, so that you can see what I'm talking about.
>>539856750i'm not, i'm against the idea that we exist just to ejaculate/just to pleasure ourselves. there's a deeper meaning and and more meaningful purpose to our existence
>>539854351Not in the sense that you're thinking.Jesus' ministry is pointing at a return to an Edennic like state.In Eden, there was no scarcity, God provided for all needs.When sin and death hit the world, part of the curse God subjected the world to is scarcity and toil.Genesis 3:>17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;>18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;>19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.When Jesus sent out missionaries He told them not to bring anything no provisions, no money, He would provide for them. When Jesus was talking about leaving again in the upper room discourse, He asked His disciples when they were on the road, did they lack anything? They said No Lord. He then told them, because He was going to leave, they would have to carry provisions now, and buy a sword, fend for themselves.Does God provide now? Sometimes, but it's the exception not the rule, the rule right now is "by the sweat of your brow will you eat bread"When Jesus returns, when we have a new Heavens and new Earth, God will provide like Eden. No scarcity.Revelation 21>5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.>6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.>7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.So communist in the sense of a post scarcity world.... that is not now.
>>539855229The point is to be a good little obedient peasant that knows all the bad people he doesn't like will be punished while he will be rewarded as long as he puts up with itThat is, unless the pope tells him that he needs to go die fighting some other group of Christian peasants, because then he gets instant early access
>>539854351https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI2c4lMmN1A
>>539856947Forgot to add that it also lets you externalize everything you don't like about human nature to supernatural invisible forces as seen here >>539855906
>>539854569Communism demands actual communes. I could consider myself a Communard, or a Dengist, but international Communism has been tried with exclusively disastrous results. Fascism is the only thing that makes sense to me anymore. We're living witnesses to the terrible flaws of "democracy."
>>539854351the point is to reject the material chains in favor of looking ahead to a spirtual harvest of inevitible death, hopefully gathering enough karma for immortality before the clock expires or something. never lose sight of the fact that when talking about god we are talking about that designer and creator that exists outside this faggot ass gay vidya game. its always, barring deja vu, your first time pumpkin, but for him he's seen almost every permutation of you this sim can provide. you literally exist for his amusement and you must grow beyond your initial program. how many times has he put a basket over your head and stole your weed now? its always the first time for you. that odd sting sensation at random times in your butthole is likely residual from the quick load after he just ass raped you to see if it effects your faction standing with the whore guild any. fuckin microbes talking about the human holding their petri dish as if that human is the light, laser, or nano-carbon fiber syringe tube he's been using to interact with your dirty bacteria ass. expand them minds or so help me i will expand all of your assholes.
>>539854467>politics is when trannies
>>539854484Communism is the opposite of charity
>>539856802didnt you ever stop and think why greek philosophy was pushed for so long and others are ignored? who pushes it and why? You'll make a fine pleb one day.
>>539855229- To be reconciled. To be Born Again.- God wants to do an Earth 2: In Heaven, with The Son Of Man. -You witness and help to condemn the weeds, show them as hypocrites who hate without cause. - Your higher self wanted to come to the school with the strongest delusion / dualism or for another specific reason. To be faith-purity tested.It is a weightless illusion anyways, so all the worrying is not really about the thing in itself but about your disability to more complete/radical faith.
>>539854411Explain please
>>539854656That is correctSupposedly the reason they called that and the entrance to their tents eye of the needle is because a camel still can't pass through that because it is too tall
>>539857624>Its true my uncle works for the bible.
>>539857466No one ever pushed them, they were buried if anything. Nobody is taught Plotinus or Proclus or Porphyry in a college setting. You have to go out on your own to learn about them. The authors that you mentioned, Kant, Nietzche and Descartes, as well as Hume and Hegel, were all artificially pushed. They were raised from the dead and forced into academia and treated as the baseline despite being failures in their lifetimes, all for the sake of fostering the idea that reality is subjective and that there is no such thing as truth. If you want to raise complaints about "narrow and cherrypicked" and "pushed while others are ignored", raise it at your own selection of sophists.
>>539854351What's the next sentence out of His mouth?
>>539857845How did you know? He just narrowly avoided another round of layoffs :/
>>539856573>They spent their lives attacking philosophy.None of those men burnt down a single library which is much more than we can say for the early Christians, who hated knowledge with a feverish passion. The idea that their nuanced critiques of the limits of reason come anywhere close to the blunt, dull hatred of knowledge and thought of all types that Christians exhibited is a vicious lie.
>>539854351>religion made to keep poorfags in check>oh you poor you get heaven after death bro now back to work>that evil rich dude he is not though hehe >so do not try to change things in this life
>>539858063Every Christian writer from Christ's death onwards makes continual references to the Greek philosophers and holds them up as a high standard of wisdom and virtue. No one's going to buy the lie you're selling if so long as they've read a single Christian scholar.Sophists like Kant and Nietzsche, on the other hand, actively attempted to poison the well and destroy wisdom for future generations to come. The damage they've done to the world far exceeds anything prior in history.
>>539858024Ran into him at the synagogue
>>539854351wait til you see how the jews treated their goy converts in Acts 6
>Jesus really wasA "lēstēs" -- a pederast; his "Apostles" were twinks / boys, whose jizz he would drink to "titrate" the snake venom that was thought to "throttle" the intensity of said serpentine drug that was the high of choice in a pre-scientific era. He was put to death because his boy-loving was so blatant that it was seen as too much to bare--even for a society that tuned a blind eye to sex with children. This comports not only with a literal translation of the Septuagint, as well as with the church being a millennia-old faggots' fraternity and diddler den.>identical story of crucifixion to the 'jeet tale of Krishna... purely cohencidentally>no evidence of "Yeshu" has ever been found, with the "Shroud of Turin" being as retarded as seeing a Jesus image in an unflushed turd>no effigies; no images... hence, the character gets depicted as a Rothschild (jej mein sides to mices and pieces! xD)>no inscriptions, carvings, etchings of someone seen as the "Son of God"... riiiiiiiiiiiiiight>no record by any chronicler of the era... must have been on furlough when the water-walking / boulder-pushing took place>the only guy to 'see' his miracles was Saul of Tarsus ("Paul"), who was trekking across the desert to Damascus, thus, likely delirious from thirst and exhaustion... a premise a retarded as "Mohammad was dictated the words of Allah, in a desert, alone, over 23 years">only came into focus under Constantine, centuries later... when we don't know for certain what happens in modern history even a few year thence>terms like "cristus" (Greek: "good") and "Christiani" (a sect blamed for burning Rome) mistranslated and misappropriate as references to the character>even kikes dismiss the character; with only late-comer muds acknowledging him -- alone, (respectively) proof enough of the fakery>a bunch of "books" of the associated fictions are conveniently "forgeries" because they happen to expose the #JesusHoax...https://stellarhousepublishing.com/pliny/
>>539854351>The more I read the bible the more I think Jesus really was a communistHe was a religious anarcho-communist. Something akin to the Amish. As >>539854484 points out, it works up to Dunbar's number because that's how many people can actually cooperate together voluntarily without the need for hierarchical structures of authority(IE government). Jesus was killed because he was telling people to resist the authority of the Pharisees and the Romans.Which is the reason Christians were oppressed and murdered until Saul came along and promised that Christians would obey the government(see Romans 13).
>>539858063Christians were a bunch of Neoplatonists not anti philosophy and your Marcus Aurelius quote has to do not with [to accept morality] but the resolution of facing death. >those silly Christians making such a show of my execution of them >they aren't resolute >they don't have any dignity, die quieter It's a pure coping exercise on his part and your image misrepresents what he's actually saying.
>>539858262what did kant do
>>539858813You are a stinky streetshitting jeet.I shit hot diarrhea paneer shit in Vishnu's mouth.
>>539854656at night, when the main gate was closed, to get your camel through the keyhole door would mean that you would have to unload all your goods from it and get it to kneel down and crawl through a rich person would have to give up all they own and bow down before god in order to get into heaven
>>539854411This Jew Talmuds.
If you read a Peshitta bible (translated straight from Aramaic into English) it's not camel but gamel. Rope. Harder to put a rope through a needle.
>>539858895>Christians were a bunch of Neoplatonists not anti philosophyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serapeum_of_AlexandriaOne of many such incidents. Whichever were "neoplatonists," they were well outnumbered by the ones who demanded ignorance and saw demons in all the knowledge the Romans had accumulated.The same anti-knowledge madness walks our streets today, it just hangs a rainbow flag outside the church along with the cross.
>>539854351Does this mean that being rich is always evil? Or is he saying to give up all your worldly possessions to your rabbi before you pass on?
>>539858930You won't do shit; but, you will be eating shit, Timmy...https://www.bitchute.com/video/sNn23uSK0rt1
>>539854712>Why didn't Jesus say it wouldn't work on a larger scale?Because it didn't need to be said. Up until capitalism, pretty much every society was a bunch of Dunbar's number villages ruled by distant hereditary monarchies who largely allowed the villages to regulate themselves. The only real interaction most peasants had with "the state" was having to pay over a portion of their production as taxes.I'm sure you've heard "Give unto Caesar". The background of that story is that the Pharisees were trying to get Jesus in trouble with the Romans. They asked Jesus if his followers should pay their taxes. Instead of simply answering "Yes" or "No", he evades the question by talking about who owns the money. In short, if you're holding Caesar's money, and he wants it back, give it to him, but that doesn't mean you have to use Caesar's money.With that said, what Jesus was preaching was kind of like the Amish if the Amish didn't pay taxes and didn't have the US military to protect them. It's not simply impractical on the large scale, it's impractical, period, because it cannot defend itself.Which is why modern Christianity is a complete bastardization of Christianity.
communism is jewishchristianity is jewishboth are aimed towards gentiles, and not actually meant for jews. jews already have their shit figured out, basically its just a pajeet caste system.mao did famously call christianity proto-communist, and its because of the jewish similarities. essentially theyre both trying to handicap you, so jews can seize power. thats all they were about. communism in many ways is just christianity without the magic jew. it was an experiment, and the cold war was a stress test between the two competing systems to see who would wageslave their lives away for jewish interests the most. and communism lost. so they circled back to christian capitalism. in both scenarios jews already have power, so its merely about productivity and longetivity. jews always put the long term above the short term. theyre gearing for global permenant enslavement. which is what ai and drones are about. theyre to replace the useful idiot christcuck-communists
>>539855311why would that even be a thing you need to address? sounds like sandnigger nonsense. like how jews think if they circumcise you, you have to be their slaves in this life and the next.
>>539855503theyre sure doing a great job arent they?couldnt even get basic sanitation until the 19th century because they were too busy building golden monuments to jews
>>539857157it's not a Greek dualist thing of material vs spiritual.It's a this age, and an age to come.it's this Material Earth, and the New Material Earth that will be made.Jesus didn't teach some mystical spiritual ghost world Jesus taught the resurrection and the restoration of all things, the Kingdom of Heaven. When the New Earth is made and God Dwells with man on Earth.It's a real, material place and we will be in real, material bodies with a real, material Jesus. People will build houses, and plant vineyards, and you'll enjoy the fruit of your own work, and not have to work for anyone else, a place where God hears your prayers and answers while you're still speaking.Unlike this cursed world where you can pray and it doesn't get answeredThat is what the prophets, the Messiah, and the Apostles taught, it is what is in the bible. Gnosticism and Greek Dualism crept into the Church and led it awry. Jesus and the Apostles sometimes used the language of Greek Dualism, since it was the common theology of His day, and by the 4th century AD, Greek Dualism fully wedded Christian Theology and led into hyperspiritualized interpretations turning the New Earth into now and having us die and go to heaven forever as spirits .
>>539854351Well, no shit. Christianity is literally a socialist ideology. Whites didn't become socialist out of the blue. German socialists still worship some original Lutheran reformers as fathers of the ideology of modern socialism.
>>539855136> He never said the government should take your money and give it to whomeverHe literally said this though, almost verbatim. Render unto Caesar, pay your taxes. You pajeets have never read the Bible
>>539859602This. Jesus was a financial anarchist and that's what got him killed. He overturned the moneychanger's tables and within 3 days he was (un)dead. Given that one of the central tenets of commun/socialism is central banks that issue debt-notes and set interest rates for the purpose of committing usury, it's safe to say Jesus was anti-communist.
>>539854351The Greek word for camel and cable (the kind sailors would use) is nearly identical, Jesus is likely not refering to the large animal during this parable.
>>539856947Sir you don't even have air conditioning. You are the definition of a good little peasant. You have given up your rights so that elites you have never met determine what you can and can't do.
>>539865240There is evidence that the "eye of a needle" is a tight space in a commerical district somewhere in ancient Israel. A place that large caravans can't get through. It would make sense because the more stuff you have the lower chance you would be able to pass through.
>>539854351- James 5:1-6- Acts 4:32-"render unto caesar" means pay taxes and separation of church and state-"easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than a rich man get to heaven"-story of lazarus predicated on a man being in hell for no other reason than being rich-overturned money changers' tables>>539854413jesus was a leftist man of color who was executed on a roman implement of torture for being a class conscious political subversive in a client state of rome
>>539854444Checked. He worked as a carpenter with his father in the family business until he preached full time. They took their money and put it back into materials and tools to keep the business going. His business was not owned by the government. Seems pretty capitalistic.A lot of people like to say Christians were socialist. But the early Christians were told by Jesus that the end was near, that they would see the tribulations he spoke of in their generation, and they would be severely prosecuted. In that mindset, they pooled their resources as a kind of resistance to help each other out as they lost jobs, family members and friends. Only the near future mattered, and they were tasked with spreading his message.
>>539854444quads of truth
>>539854777Checked. I am surprised a jew hasn't done that already.
>>539854351>thenRetard.
>>539865814>in a client state of romeWhy don't you name them?Seems to me you're being a bit politically subversive yourself.
>>539854351The parable about the camel passing through the eye of a needle being more likely than a richfag entering the Kingdom of Heaven means this: It’s more likely that some random little poorfag, accustomed to a hard life, will survive the next big cataclysm in a narrow crevice than that all the richfags, with their apocalyptic bunkers and exile spaceships, will make it to the next Yuga.
>>539854351>Jesus really was a communistBut Jesus fed people and commies starve them. I don't think Jesus would've approved of the +100 million people that commies killed throughout their short lifespan here on earth.
>>539865814oh i forgotMatthew 6:24Matthew 19:21 (to 26)Gospel of Thomas 63, 64, 110christianity is full of ascetic scholars and philosophers that take vows of poverty and renounce earthly wealth>>539865938yes, the jewish pharisees were corrupt. rome eventually kicked them out. it was for the best.https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2023%3A13-36&version=NIV
>>539863769Neither have you. You might have read the words but you clearly don't understand the context or you wouldn't have left out the second part of his statement, "And render unto the father what is the father's".If he said to pay taxes, the people would be angry. If he said not to pay taxes, the romans would arrest him.
it's just a loser religion>h-haha, I might not have achieved shit all in real life and am stuck in the perpetual bottom of the barrel class>but just you wait, god rewards exactly that and punishes success!>once both of us are dead I will totally be the winner here
>>539854656>I am tired of having to explain that parable.>Needle is a weird translation of the archaic name of the keyhole arch, it meant that a richfag, with all his power and money, could easily fall to temptation and abuse given by those things.>To reach heaven he needed to walk straight and very precisely through life, like a camel through a needle/keyhole arch. It means a very disciplined life, not an impossibility.Stupid pastorfag larping spicnigger it is word for word exactly what it means. "Passing a camel through the eye of a needle" is a well known semitic/middle eastern idiom, it means that it is impossible because a fucking camel cannot fit itself through the eye of a needle you fucking idiot. Christkikes fucking love metaphors but cant seem to understand them
>>539854351The eye of the needle meant a small passage in walls for pedestrians to enter cities ahead of pack animals.
Fascism, Capitalism, Communism, Satanism, Judaism, Christianity, Islam. You guys are trying to your problems/ideas into these failed concepts. get creative.
>>539855097>That quote is literally copypasted from Buddha Gautama, six hundred years before Jesus. Thing is, it makes a whole lot more sense out of an inheriting prince than a fucking carpenter.You fucking fecalniggers make it so easy for us to find you pooniggers in here
>>539854411>>539854351Why do you jews spam the board with anti-Christianity? Who is this supposed to convince?
24 And againe I say vnto you, It is easier for a camel to goe thorow the eye of a needle, then for a rich man to enter into the kingdome of God.25 When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saued?26 But Iesus beheld them, and said vnto them, With men this is vnpossible, but with God al things are possible.You only need to read two more verses to see that Jesus said this is impossible for man alone but God makes it happen.
>>539854351if I liquefy the camel, I can pump it through any sized hole i want
>>539855982I agree with the other anon, it's sterile since it replaces your individual love with a meaningless universal redefined version. Love given equally to everyone has no value on comparison to love given to one person.
>>539854351its just the opposite, xD(Matthew 20:1-16)1For the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which went out early in the morning to hire labourers into his vineyard.2 And when he had agreed with the labourers for a penny a day, he sent them into his vineyard.3 And he went out about the third hour, and saw others standing idle in the marketplace,4 And said unto them; Go ye also into the vineyard, and whatsoever is right I will give you. And they went their way.5 Again he went out about the sixth and ninth hour, and did likewise.6 And about the eleventh hour he went out, and found others standing idle, and saith unto them, Why stand ye here all the day idle?7 They say unto him, Because no man hath hired us. He saith unto them, Go ye also into the vineyard; and whatsoever is right, that shall ye receive.8 So when even was come, the lord of the vineyard saith unto his steward, Call the labourers, and give them their hire, beginning from the last unto the first.9 And when they came that were hired about the eleventh hour, they received every man a penny.10 But when the first came, they supposed that they should have received more; and they likewise received every man a penny.11 And when they had received it, they murmured against the goodman of the house,12 Saying, These last have wrought but one hour, and thou hast made them equal unto us, which have borne the burden and heat of the day.13 But he answered one of them, and said, Friend, I do thee no wrong: didst not thou agree with me for a penny?14 Take that thine is, and go thy way: I will give unto this last, even as unto thee.15 Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good?16 So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.Communism is a lie so its against god, and that's how i know the son of god can't be a commie like all of your kind xD
>>539854656This kind of arch was introduced to the Iberian peninsula 800 years after Christ by the Visigoths.
>>539854656>I am tired of having to explain that parable.hahaha that’s because you’re trying to make a commie understand the truth when they’re actually trying to deceive you and live off you—hahaha. You could explain it to them a gazillion times, and—surprise, surprise—they still won’t get it.
>>539854656>could easily fall to temptation and abuse givenIn ancient times the only way to become rich was through abuse, by enslaving others. In modern times its less so, as sometimes talented people can develop useful new technologies that can be copies by others, in this sense having a positive impact way beyond that of a common worker, i.e, the inventor of the steam engine or of antibiotics.None of that existed in the ancient world, so anyone rich had to have slaves.Until the 19th century basically anyone wealthy was a criminal of some sort, often military. A knight was the towns rapist btw.
>>539867365Point here is that rich people cant "easily fall to temptation and abuse". They already abuse. It was impossible to be rich without abusing others. Today its still almost always like that but not every time
>>539858861>AmishIs that also why the amish are known to traffick kids these days?
>>539867365>the flowchart foolhahahah stfu retard, stick that nonsense up ur ass
>>539867767excellent rebuttal, you third world esl nigger
>>539854351>commies wanting theocratic lawsOk and? We have separation of state and church, something you very much insisted on.
>>539867824The 'Profit' arrow feeds the leaders directly from Accumulated Capital, completely isolating the workforce from the return. You are charting a system where capital generates profit on its own, which contradicts the very theory of surplus value you are attempting to critique. You missed a class on process flows.>The arrow of absurdity ("Orders"): The thick arrow running from "leaders" to "followers" points downward, suggesting oppression or a flow of orders. But the arrow returning "accumulated capital" to the leaders points upward... directly from the capital block! That means the money magically teleports to the boss without the followers playing a part in that final step. >The infinite loop of exploitation: According to the arrows, "followers" generate "surplus" and "subsistence" that flow toward capital. If they channel both toward capital, what do the followers live on? Photosynthesis?>Pretentious redundancy: At the bottom, it reads "Universal political flowchart." Labeling a drawing made in Paint with three boxes as "universal" is the height of arrogance.ok, here you got it, for both, but its the same as you all are parasites, i'm lazy with you, eye for an eye u know?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gse4d11K9bQ
>>539868313>It completely ignores the problem of dispersed knowledge (Friedrich Hayek’s famous dilemma). >Millions of people make unpredictable decisions every second based on their needs, preferences, and local contexts. To think that an elite can anticipate and dictate all of this through "orders" is incredibly naive. >The speed of information: Markets move in microseconds, driven by algorithms, fluctuations in supply and demand, geopolitics, and technology. No group of human beings—no matter how wealthy or powerful—possesses the mental processing speed or logistical capacity to micromanage a global ecosystem. If they did, there would be no bankruptcies, financial crises, or unexpected inflation; the elite would simply "adjust the flow" at will. >Improvisation vs. Planning: The chart assumes that capitalism is a perfectly coordinated, top-down conspiracy. In reality, elites spend most of their time reacting to chaos to keep status quo, adapting to innovations emerging from below(aka hijacking innovation), and competing against one another.only a retard or a commie don't see this obvious shit xD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52FlxCbOxCc
