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why are people suddenly so stupid? i don't pay much attention, but it seems like there has been a catastrophic collapse in any form of public discourse, either it was faked before and people were always stupid, or something has occurred in the past 30 years where there is no viable public intellectual movement.

it might begin with trump and basic decorum? that idiot opened the floodgates for facsimile idiots who don't even qualify as entertainment. now the right wing has always had suspicious intellectuals, largely due to the mystical belief in the leadership principle, so it's no skin off my nose there to find buffoons, but deconstructionism really killed any interest the public left had in pragmatic ideas. we have dystopians and utopians rehashing arguments as if we lived in the 1910s minus the ability to actually quote the classics or deliver a coherent opening, argument, rebuttal, and closing.

where is the american diplomatic corps? where is the news media and the award winning journalism? where are public authors discussing the problems of the modern world? it should be easier now than ever for the cream to rise to the top since anyone can reach anyone effortlessly.
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Being a loud retard has been encouraged the last two decades. Even in debate teams, where the whole goal is discourse, being loud and throwing bullshit at the opponent to flumox them.
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>>539870995
>le enlightened centrism
Your policies are stupid and you are also stupid. The very system you endorse is captured by globalist finance and turning Australia dystopian
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for a long time we were still under the effects of some kind of diluted "enlightened despotism", where an intellectual elite would rule over the ignorant multitude. after a century of "democracy", we are finally reaching the ultimate destination of letting the morons rule themselves via voting: the dictatorship of the masses.
by its intrinsic nature, the silent majority will always push for maintaining the status quo. a slow, stagnant, endless decline, and if you disagree you are a social outcast to be cancelled and deplatformed.
it all started in 1776 and things never recovered since. the slow death of the british empire has been a symptom of the decline of our civilization. with the end of colonialism, we will never have again empires spreading civilization to less civilized peoples, instead we got drug cartels and shareholders ruling forever over the smoldering ruins of thousands of years of nation building
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>>539873172
Why rule over them? None of it lasted and what was there even at its zenith had to be enforced at the end of a rifle. Why waste all that time, effort and resources? White countries work with each other and focus on space, leave the rest to starve and kill each other. Germany went from bolt actions and clumsy submachineguns to guided rockets in the 12 years it was free, I'm sure Whites could develop the technology needed for it without relying on other races. The era of civilizing other races is over, they had chance after chance and blew it. Let them starve, kill each other, or look to Asia for all I care. Maybe if Japan kicks out the jeets and kurds, and gets that fire back in their souls again they can come into the fold in time.
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>>539870995
>it should be easier now than ever for the cream to rise to the top since anyone can reach anyone effortlessly.
The common man doesn’t know shit from shinola. Without an elite that believes in the ennobling of mankind, there will be no ennobling of mankind. Global finance captured the left and the right. Populist movements are platformed only if they’re retarded and discredit populists.
See, this thread and the DSA for examples. See also the antiwork interview on Fox.
These aren’t your common street retards. These are curated retards who exist to get you to self-doubt.
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It's a consequence of the Americanised Kiking of political discourse. Basically the entire world is as brain dead as turn of the century, post-9/1, kiked yanks.
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>>539873805
>white countries
>america
Anon...
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>>539870995
Make the exercise, pick a person men woman or robot and declare it the best intellectual of july 2026

See what happens to it, if they tear it apart for the heck of it, that's what happened to intellectual public discourse
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>>539870995
Why is the lick snizz guy over there? Is he the Destiny of rightois?
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>>539872235
>>539870995
It’s the only way to allow sufficient amounts of women and shitskins to avoid paying government ransoms
/thread
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>where is the american diplomatic corps?

I am right here, what do you need?
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>>539870995
The internet, but more specifically social media, inherently rewards extremes rather than facts. You are not a bystander in this: Every time you click on a news article titled stuff like "The people you hate are raping your civilization to death, stunning new evidence proves!" you are reinforcing the problem.
Online communication is now about active disinformation. Did something happen elsewhere in the world? It was a false flag! Someone proposes a new policy? Don't listen, thats controlled opposition! Time for my big speech, I'm going to lie to your face twenty times in a row and if you try to correct me on any of them you're a cuck and a nasty person. And all of this can be manufactured, proliferated, and presented as normal by just hiring 1000 indians to spam things as part of your narrative across a dozen different sites for $2 an hour, or these days just make a program to do it for you automatically.

Social media is a poison more hazardous to our society than lead in our gasoline. We unironically need to fucking ban it.
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>>539878185
Maybe you are shrimply very young but no, network TV time was as retarded. The difference was not in media (intellect-wise) it was academia being significantly better and people still having some of the 'old ways' regarding 'pride in work' etc. wanting to do a good job for its own sake. That did not fade any faster due to the internet or social media.
On the other hand if you are just doing a marketing run for banning social media/internet censorship that is okay, it does not matter too much anyway.
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>>539877358
he picks the lowest hanging fruit to debate about and still gets btfo.
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>>539878325
See, you can't even consider the idea that I am a real person. Your kneejerk reaction is that I am some kind of... what? Marketing rep? Deep state conspirator? I'm not a person to you, I'm some cog that you have to find a place for in your mechanical worldview where nothing is real and always never has been.
The fact that this mentality has been normalized for you is exactly what I am talking about.
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>>539870995
He said that the Ottomans lost WW2 and that America entered WW2 in 1947.
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>>539870995
I too have noticed this extremely disturbing phenomenon, it's eerie, unexplained and seemingly ignored
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>>539878449
It really makes you thonk
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>>539878557
Incorrect, I literally opened my statement with the opposite assumption: That you are very young.
I simply included more possibilities to be more comprehensive in my response.
You are doing a good job of proving your own point I suppose, but I disprove it regularly as do many other posters, both here and otherwise.
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>>539870995
>we have dystopians and utopians rehashing arguments as if we lived in the 1910s minus the ability to actually quote the classics or deliver a coherent opening, argument, rebuttal, and closing
Basically 80% of humanity needs to die
we've reached the paradigm of social growth where paradoxically we are intelligent enough to wonder with lofty aspirations what we should be doing next while also keeping untold amounts of retarded useless eaters alive abroad. This situation is self-limiting but extremely painful when we reach that asymptote
I mean, think about it like this: We have people simultaneously trying to plan to pollinate the stars with humanity and create meta-intelligences to digitize humanity in an effort to avoid the heat-death of the universe. In the same world, we're placing insane burdens on the most intelligent and functional countries and degrading their populations just to try to lance the boil that is India's complete and total inability to control the birthrate of its retarded population.

The primary issue is that Western societies abide by self-limiting malthusian population quorum-sensing, and eastern societies don't.
When western societies grow large enough that people start to compete for resources at an uncomfortable level, Westerners reduce birthrates to maintain social cohesion and prevent shortages.
When eastern societies grow large enough to create resource shortages, they INCREASE their birthrates to try to offset rates of starvation, poverty, and death.
These two biologies are fundamentally incompatible.

All of the discourse in the west stems from the cognitive dissonance of being raised and brought up in a society that values equality and equity, while being faced with the unconscionable (for the average person) necessity of genociding most of india and africa.
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>>539881594
>I mean, think about it like this: We have people simultaneously trying to plan to pollinate the stars with humanity and create meta-intelligences to digitize humanity in an effort to avoid the heat-death of the universe.

We absolutely do not having people trying to do that, and if you think we do you're being scammed.
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>>539882169
you're completely missing my point. read the rest of my post
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>>539879393
i was watching the lbc guy interview jon ronson, and it dawned on me that at some point there were people governing. they held the reins of power, they had total institutional capture, it was a very aggressive system weeding out those who couldn't stomach the hours or the effort or the double speak / think, and then somewhere along the way - and both interviewer and viewee were prime examples, mediocre failed artists snuck in. into media, into politics, probably corrupting the bbc which opened the door for them, then the political parties fell, i don't know if it was thatcher specifically but around that time. we went from capable to incapable, ruthless psychopaths to incompetent bumbling fools.

i can't imagine what a public school classroom looks like today or how the elite graduates from the prestigious finishing institutions handle themselves, but it must be steeped in pure chaos for the masses and nepotistic cycles of corruption and abuse at the top. the cowards who survived ww2, too afraid to have a third war, ruined the world anyway, slowly suffocating everything with nihilistic consumerism.



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