>>539873301We've established that you will never be German. Because youre a brownoid invader. Youre inferior and worthless.
>>539873301What color was he?
>>539873301prove there were evidence on it.
The story is nuanced, which is why reddit doesn't understand it. It's not illegal to wipe your phone, people wipe their phones all the time for legitimate reasons. What is illegal is deleting data after it is subject to search and after notification of search. This is why Hillary Clinton deleting her emails was a problem. The guy was at a border checkpoint, and as we all know, if you want to bring an item past a border it must be inspected. He was told to hand over his phone as it was subject to inspection during an investigation. He wiped his phone after notification of search. It isn't the act of wiping the phone it was the time place and context. But that doesn't fit on a bumper sticker so the dopamine addicted teens and ESLs online don't care
>>539873301Well what did he have on his phone that he needed erased?
>>539873820I think the claim is the phone with the data on it itself was evidence. They just need to declare that something is evidence, they don't ever need to prove that it is in their legal system.
>>539874853>Tyranny is ok when the GOP does it.
>Make a passcode that is one number away from your self destruct code>"Ayo nigguh I be with the federal poleese an sheeit. Open up dat fone nigguh.">Yes, Agent Lopez, right away...OH NO I ACCIDENTALLY HIT TWO INSTEAD OF ONE AHHHHHH MY VACATION PHOTOSWhat am I charged with? A succulent accident? It could've happened to anyone. I was nervous and my finger slipped. I didn't have my reading glasses.
>>539875053With destruction of evidence.
>>539875136But Agent Shaquanda, that phone never had anything on it. It's a dummy phone I take while traveling.
>>539874853People in your shithole are required to unlock phones??????
>>539875053>b-b-b-but it was an accident!!! I SWEARRRR!!!!>pap pap papapapapapappapapapapapapap! (blows smoke from gun) so was that (sprinkles crack dust on you)who's the nigga now?
>>539875239They will not ask your opinion about that.
>>539873301Nothing to hide, nothing to fear innit.
>>539873301Is he responsible for wiping the phone when he didn't do it?
>>539874853People understand everything you wrote. It's still an aberration of justice that they can force you to hand over your private data that they cannot access. The problem is not legality of it.The thing with Hillary is completely different, too. She was a glowie who was trusted with state secrets and hence expected to treat them properly. This guy was not trusted with anything.
>>539875136Evidence of what Ivan?
>>539875524They can give you the case number if that helps you. Of course, it doesn't...
>>539873301No warrant = no search
>>539874853Get a warrant next time. Cops are taking a huge L on this one because they couldn't follow thw law
>>539874892who says there was anything tht "needed" erased? fuck that shit, lol
>>539874853>He wiped his phone after notification of search.He didn't wipe the phone, the agent who entered the code wiped the phone.The agent should know better that it could be booby-trapped
>NOOO YOU CAN'T JUST ERASE THE SMARTPHONE DATA BEFORE WE COULD SEE IT
>>539874935>>539875136>>539875298>>539875454>I've never been to your country and barely even see it on TV but let me explain to you how your legal system worksWhen the cops show up with a warrant and want to see your accounting books, and your response is to run into the back and set them on fire, yes that in and of itself raises some questions.
>>539874853So the most he can face is not complying with a LEOBig whoop
>>539875713how about I don't give a single fuck about your "concerns about my antisemitism on my phone"
>>539875713Good thing they didn't ask for his accounting books and didn't present a warrant then.
To search a house police need warrants and to get that they need to prove reasonable suspicion of a crime, this is a privacy protection to stop police from going door to door searching peoples homes for any crimes they can find, or targetting people (eg. politically motivated searches).The problem is governments haven't extended privacy protections to the modern world because they have become hostile to the whole concept of privacy and believe that everyone should be monitored at all times.
>>539875763it's just some bullshit door opening Trump is doing for the future laws criminalizing antisemitism here and getting elements of the "right" to cheer for it cause something something browns
>>539875136>With destruction of evidence.That charge requires that there is an active court case or at minimum filed charges. There's no legal document being served prior to the act, ergo the act isn't unlawful.The officers have no legal right to the contents of anyone's phone without a warrant.
>>539875705No he entered the distress wipe code when they asked him to unlock it for them
>>539875853Whether this true or not in practice, it's unrelated to my response to the guy who thinks he can feign ignorance and get away with it in a situation where not feigning ignorance would have landed him into trouble.
>>539875777True and honestly I'm glad I live in an actual surveillance state because I know that anyone who tries to bring me harm legitimately or illegitimately will be caught on camera. That's an absolute fact.
Invasion of privacy is always wrong
>>539875777>need to prove reasonable suspicion of a crimewhich can easily be fabricated, also checked
>some subhuman meathead glownigger can demand you unlock your phone at the borderThe United Sharts of Israel is a third world shithole.
>>539876017China and North Korea have very little crime for that very reason but is it worth giving up your freedom for? ultimately you can either have freedom or security, not both. We are going to continue to lose to more and more freedoms with your "I want to be 100% safe at any cost" mentality. That's not even getting into the fact that governments have made their countries less safe deliberately through mass illegal immigration.
>>539875894It unlocked the phone but the cops should have asked for the code that doesnt erase the phone. Goes to show how used they are to bullying people to violate their rights. They got out smarted and out played , got mad and trumped up charges oit of things air. Boot lickers come out of the wood work every time one of the blue warriors get their shit pushed in
>>539876435Humiliation ritualThey can just dump the contents if they really want to have a looksee
>>539876544That's not really going to help considering the encryption, I think.
>>539877032Fair enough. My shitty Samsung isn't encrypted but I guess he had a privacy oriented phone.
>>539876435They never did this until after Oct 7 and they are exclusively looking for anti Israel memes
>>539873301US lawmakers. looking into you phone without probable cause is against the constitution. the fact it happens on air-side of the border is irrelevant. congress made a law which violates the constitution. it is an unreasonable search made without probably cause. Bordergoys were following orders and so should have arrested the guys.
>>539873301Why is their logo a star of david?What sneaky shit are they doing?
>>539873461>colorSpell it right dickhead
>>539876498china has lots of crime and no one knows for a fact anything about north korea crime.
>>539874853If the phone is wiped, and so essentially just a paperweight now, why is it an issue? It's like if you drink all the liquid from a water bottle before going through the checkpoint. There's no longer anything that would cause an issue. Since the wiping is the issue then clearly it isn't just about the inspection to make sure nothing on the phone violates whatever laws they're thinking about when being brought into the country.
>>539875713Destroying evidence will never get you the same punishment as what it was evidence of Smart play
>>539878604It is a graphene molecule which is a six-membered ring of carbon atoms
>>539878478There is not that many crimes you can commit online without something noticing, so is all about scaring people with opinions online
Americans don't understand how much power Customs have.US Customs and Border Protection (CBP) officers can conduct body cavity searches at airports, and they generally do not need a warrant or probable cause to perform these searches.Under the "border search exception," the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that the Fourth Amendment's warrant requirement does not apply at international borders and their functional equivalents, such as airport ports of entry.
>>539874853>He was told to hand over his phone as it was subject to inspection during an investigationDid he? What investigation could be ongoing if he just got at the border checkpoint? He is an US citizen so I guess a proper search order must be issued no? I do understand your point that "rules are rules even if they are retarded" and I think he could have been more patient and ask for a lawyer while refusing to give any passcode at all.
>>539876500The fact that the guy traveled with his REAL phone instead of a burner...proves he was an idiot.Border Control has (virtually) unlimited powers...INCLUDING conducting body cavity searches....without a warrant.
>>539875713Most western laws are derivatives of Roman laws and are pretty similar (and stupid), yes there are some retarded takes here but what you mentioned is a crime everywhere in the west.
>>539874853Try saying that again without a glowing cock in your mouth.
>>539879343A phone with Graphene OS on it is essentially a burner. It is probably actually safer than a burner if you use encrypted messaging apps like Signal to communicate on it instead of just SMS via a carrier service provider.
>>539873301Based. In reality people should just bring a dummy phone through customs and keep their real phone home. or keep your spicy shit off you phone.
>>539875853NONE of these "legal rights" apply to international borders and points of entry.US Customs and Border Protection (CBP) officers can even conduct body cavity searches at airports, and they generally do not need a warrant or probable cause.If you refuse...you can be arrested INDEFINITELY.
>>539874853I want to beat you to death with a hammer
>>539874853He didn't wipe his phone you mongoloid, the cops didn't follow the law and just tried to unlock that shit and it wiped itself (caused by the zogbots retardation)
i stated in an earlier thread the best tactic is to leave a scrap of paper in your wallet with "PHONE PASSCODE: 0001" written on it, which is in fact the duress code. tarded piggies will inevitably try this code and wipe the device on their own without any assistance by the user.additionally, the accused is charged specifically with destruction of property in the possession of government. they did not charge him with obstruction, tampering with evidence, or anything like that. they are literally arguing his action of providing a duress code wiped out the resale value of the phone. the prosecutor will drop this case faster than a sack of potatoes as soon as the judge looks at him with a single raised eyebrow. the prosecutor should face professional sanctions and criminal prosecution for making false filings in court.CBP are pathetic freaks and losers.>>539875894the agents were the ones who typed the code in.
>>539873301>NOOOOO YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO JUST CREATE A SECURE AND GOOGLE-FREE PHONE OPERATING SYSTEM!!! YOU NEED TO ALLOW YOURSELF TO BE SURVEILLED TO PROVE YOU ARE A GOOD GOY!If this is your view, you need to be roped quickly.
>USA>2026>guilty until proven guilty, because we say so
>>539874853Quite true, but you forget the single most critical nuance of the entire story.The suspect didn't wipe the phone.The cop wiped the phone.Because the cop is a fucking retard who didn't follow procedure. That's why.And because he didn't follow procedure and looks like DOGSHIT and embarrassed the entirety of his squad, he's trying to save face together with his squad by gaslighting the suspect and pinning THEIR felony on him.
>>539873301I need a lot more information than a headline. This is a low quality post
>>539874853He didn't wipe his phone though. The Security agent technically wiped his phone he just gave them the number to do it. It's not illegal to give them the wrong codes. If anything the Security agent should be arrested for destroying evidence.
>>539880844Welcome to the absolute state of /pol/ since 2022.
>>539881051they claimed god came to them in a dream and told them that there was child porn on his phone. instead of handing the phone over to authorities with jurisdiction over that crime, they went hunting for child nudes on their own prerogative and destroyed evidence.
>>539875853None of that means shit when crossing the border. Feds can do whatever they want with you when you are entering the country. You can agree or disagree with it but that is how it works. The US is actually quite lenient compared to most countries, when you leave you can just walk out, most countries require you to go through passport control on exit in case you are wanted.
>>539873301>erased his databased, glowniggers do be mad
>>539873301My data, my choice.
>>539874853>Hillary Clinton deleting her emails was a problem.You are misstating facts.
>>539875853That's completely false. Destruction of evidence doesn't require an active case, and in fact in most cases there isn't one. People destroy evidence in expectation of a case.
>>539881525Just because the PATRIOT ACT imperial executive does something does not mean it's acceptable or legal. Please identify for me the statute which grants CBP the authority to detain citizens, withhold them legal representation, and execute warrantless searches.
>>539873461>>5398786082 Aussies going at it, c'mon cunts, fight!
>>539881636In that case just declare phones murder weapons otherwise you are not allowing them private property
>>539875777They also have to specify exactly what hey are looking for.Fourth Amendment>and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
>>539881636no one in this case was charged with destruction of evidence. the charges specifically say he diminished the seized property's value. do you understand the distinction?
>>539873301No one is in the wrong it was one guy ,supported by "moral" software/hardware devs, and the state both execising their will to power.
>>539881863it's wrong for LEAs and prosecutors to shoehorn in an unrelated charge due to incompetency originating within the LEA
>>539881896It really isnt when you consider that everything is permitted (god is dead)
>>539881853Nice goalpost change, niggerfaggot.
>>539882002it's not my fault the anon you were replying to is as ill informed about this case as you are. i am a third party telling you facts about the case, if that makes you salty then cry moar
>>539879858>A phone with Graphene OS on it is essentially a burner. It is probably actually safer than a burnerThe issue is not which phone is "safer".The issue is being able to give your phone to the border police (even your password)....and not worrying about it because a cheap burner is a disposable phone.
>>539874853reddit coming out the woodwork for this post
>>539875713right but they can't get a blanket warrant for fishing around your house. thats the problem with the phone situation its too open ended.what exactly could/would be illegal on his phone in terms of customs? normally customs is there to make sure you are personally allowed to enter or you aren't bringing something or someone physically into the country.a phone is not banned from entering the country and does not contain anything that is banned from entering. if they thought the phone itself was sus they could x-ray it. this is about individual privacy.
>>539873301The police. They didn't have a warrant and they delete the data themselves.
>>539882091>ill informedI was telling the person I replied to he was wrong. Go cut your head off and never (you) me again. Faggot.
>>539882225you're bikeshedding about how a destruction of evidence charge is formed and it has nothing to do with the thread's topic
>>539878711>before going through the checkpointIn your example, it would be after they have demanded you hand over the beverage for inspection because they suspect it may instead be an explosives component.
>>539873301>FBI can't somehow recover the data that was "wiped"embarrassing>they can and will recover his data but wanted to charge him anyway as an act of dominance total glownigger death
>>539882183Wasnt that part of t-bones immigration agenda? we gotta see all your digital stuff to make sure you arent going to do a terrorisms on american soil?
>>539881863well its a power that (in theory) is granted by the people to the government via democratic process.its also why the constitution was created to formalize the boundaries of an evergrowing government vs the people."give me the device you carry around which stores your entire digital life" is absolutely 4th amendment violation and potentially more. this is the entire point of warrants needing to be signed by a judge AND having a scope related to the crime being accused (what can be searched/seized). a government official demanding to go through your phone arbitrarily has neither restriction.
>>539882491its more "so we can see if you are gonna protest against israel" these days
>>539873820Laws are fake so i dont really care. My friend got falsely accused of rape by a ugly bitch and spent 30 jails in a jail with severe inhumane conditions meanwhile high profile people get accused of sex crimes dozens of times and never spend a single day in jail. The dude sounds smart and i bet he is a good person
>>539882510Suspected terrorists are offered no such freedoms see:the patroit act
It's illegal search and seizure to begin with
>>539882367He was stopped for searching but doesn't seem to be for anything in particular. The data on the phone is gone and so there's no "danger" from whatever it was. And the phone likely was still going to go through the x-ray for anything physical. The guy is being charged purely for making government employees mad.
>>539874892please post a screenshot of your entire web browser history for the last 48 hours. i'll wait.
>>539874987>irrelevant country has an opinion
>>539883102Its just a loong list of /pol/ threads
>>539873301>>539874853If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.It's why ICE shouldn't wear masks if they're not doing anything wrong.
>>539874853The search itself is illegal. You need a warrant to search someone’s belongings an uppity cop can’t demand to see your dick pics and sexy porn you saved on ur phone because he’s bored. Your right to privacy matters. If it’s a boarder checkpoint and there’s nothing on the phone then he should be allowed in. However if they have a court ordered warrant then they’re allowed to search his phone. Those who would give up their privacy for freedom deserve neither In a post 9/11 world we give up our privacy in exchange for safe travels assuming a terrorist is going to blow up the plane if we don’t take off our shoes. But demanding access to personal data on electronics is a bit ridiculous even in the context of a security measure. The boarder checkpoints are intended to prove or disprove your carrying of weapons or not, it’s nothing to do with finding your social media postings. Security has gone a bit too far Assuming this is a white guy with no ties to adversarial countries who simply didn’t want Joe 6 pack to see his tentacle porn
>>539883549Hey I was in those threads too!
>>539874853Really, the police should be able to take your phone anywhere, anytime, to stop all these kid molesters
>>539884208I should be able to shoot a police officer anytime anywhere i want
>>539883599>If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.Post all your email and social media credentials.
>>539884037>Hey I was in those threads too!
