Is he right?https://x.com/i/status/2082655819657875858
Elon hasn't read the first page of me n kampf
Elons a fucking retard that failed upwards
>>539924777jeetlon musk needs to kill himselfhe may as well do it, he has no friends and everyone hates him
>>539924777planet of apes
>>539924777this is why i refuse to say nazi and only call them national socialists or really i mostly refer to them as socialists.
>>539924777Hitler was't left wing in any sense. One of the biggest reason hitler rose to power was his opposition to the bolsheviks and democratic socialistsAnyway, you retarded dierection brained amerisharts can't think about politics without bringing "muh left muh right"
>please fall for my left-right grift>[other side] is your real enemy!!!! not the pedophile elites!!
>>539924777Fascism and Nazism is basically just repacked Marxism with the workers replaced with race, this is obvious to anyone that has read both Fascist and Marxist treatises and pretending otherwise is an excellent way if identifying an ideologue who is either ignorant or just straight up lying for political expediency.>How dare you insult mein FuhrerFirst of all he would consider you a degenerate you fucking moron, secondly critiquing something does not mean you inherently disagree with it, although you are correct that I do not align with either Fascists nor National socialism beyond anti-Marxism
>>539924777leftoids ITT seething
>>539924777At least we put the world's richest african in charge of single-habdedly arbirtating our budget. Anyway, america first.
>>539924877>>539924891Nazis were "3rd position" and transcended "left/right" hoax.
>>539924891that's how you knew he's jewish
>>539925046Nth post best post
>>539925097neonazi cope
>>539924891Generational wealth hits a point where you can pay extremely well educated specialists to keep growing your fortune in spite of failings.
>>539925097This.Just like modern China.Only cumguzzling faggots think otherwise.
It would be nice if these fags would list the things they think muh nazis had in common with the far left. As far as I can tell it's just authoritarianism and not wanting everyone to be raped by corporations, but if the right is actually so stupid they're making "you should get raped by corporations" their foundation, they're going to hand elections to the literal commies on the left and then they won't have to worry about calling anyone nazis anymore because the communists will send everyone right of Mao to a fucking gulag.
>>539924777Le Hitler is far left is a phase you go through when you are 14-15 years old and you have just realized how the (jewish) system works.You don't want to accept the troof and a part of you still clings to that old identity.Elon despite his riches isn't very bright since he needed 50+ years to reach this phase...
>>539924777>National Socialist German Workers PartyHmmm, I wonder if that's left or ritgh...
Elon is just seething that Hitler was a right wing socialist so he tries to claim that socialism was always "left wing". In reality socialism was founded by a racist ethno-nationalist and it was only later corrupted into being left wing by Marxism later.
>>539925393Let's consult with the actual founder of socialist thought, Saint-Simon>Saint-Simon believed that Europeans were superior. In the work De la réorganization de la société européenne, written with Augustin Thierry and published in 1814, Saint-Simon advocated that the united Europe which he envisioned should try to colonize the rest of the world: "To colonize the world with the European race, which is superior to every other race: to make the world accessible and habitable like Europe—such is the sort of enterprise by which the European Parliament should continually keep Europe active and happy." Writing in Introduction aux œuvres scientifiques du XIXe siècle, Saint-Simon states that he does not believe negroes to be equal to the Europeans for physiological reasons.
>>539924777I like how groks evidence that nazis are the same as republicans is that they racist and sexist.
Elon and Adolf are/were both retards
>>539925458missed out on corporatist, self-hating, and authoritarian
>>539925334Elon is agreeing with a Babylon bee skit where woke woman time travels to kill Hitler but find out they agree on everything.>both hate Jews (left calls them zios but really mean kike)>both socialist>both environmentalist >both censor those they dont like
>>539924777Ah the "everyone i dont like is hitler" meta is back i see
wanting to genocide a group of people isn't exclusively left or right fuck direction brains
>>539924777When rightoids tell what they think and who they are, take them at face value.
>>539924777ok so with other wordseveryone on the right is a fcking kike, fck the right
>>539924777>Far Left is when the government does a lot of stuff>Far Right is when the government does nothing A bad cope. A total government is required to enforce Far- anything.Anarcho-capitalism (redundant terms, all anarchism is capitalist, anarcho-socialism is a kek fantasy) is neither left or right, it's apolitical, it's giving up politics to economics.
>>539924777From an American perspective the most racist right wing Europeans are still Leftists because we expect and demand basic services from our government in exchange for our taxes like healthcare for children and education and some worker protections.So yes. Hitler was a national socialist who used government to encourage German births and support German families.America makes faggots like Elon teillionaires while babies die due to lack of Healthcare access and old people starve to death in the streets. There is no other country so rich as America yet so brutally uncaring and right wing.
>>539925116Well yeah its in the name NATIONAL SOCIALIST, you should watch more Fox News, that Mark Levin, I like the cut of his jib. Anyway, those woke right nazis sure do like their socialism, and everyone knows democrats are the real racists, we have the best black, jewish and trans patriots, don't we MAGAbros?
>>539925542The American political spectrum is retarded
>>539925616ironically Elon is literally only a billionaire because of massive US government spending.
>>539924777Oh yah, sure.And Israel isn't middle eastern, it's 'Mediterranean".
>>539925682That's the definition of fascist corporatism, which America is.
>>539924777An incredibly stupid thing to agree with.
>>539924777completely stupid motherfucker
>>539925616Nazism followed basically state capitalism with heavy doses of corruption and scams which is the gist of Trump's economics and probably the future of the US. Earlier Nazism/strasserism was moreso socialist but highly eccentric, strasser wanted to create a neo fuedalist system
>>539925646Kek,Monarchism was ironically the original right wing position.
>>539925682Government spending is the origin of money. Elon understands this perfectly well, but then he'll go around on television telling goycattle that the US can go bankrupt.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSmDwbrL3zI
>>539925097This. Duality is logic for livestock.
>>539925790>TrumpTrump has nothing to do with this. American has been a brutal fascist police state for 150 years now.
>>539924777ahh this old chestnut again
>>539924777>>539925046He got rid of the lefties in the SA.
>>539924777Eli David doesn't even believe what he's saying. He's just labeling leftist Nazis because they're anti Israel
>>539924777Duh. He was a progressive eugenist, same a they are now.
>>539924777I hate everyone on /pol and I hate Elon dumbfuck Musk and I hate the left, yous tupid fucking xcunts supporting Mandani like he's not a South African communist brownskinned shit-fuck. Fuck you all I hope you all die immediately
>>539924777Hitler and the brownshirts physically fought socialists and communists in the streets of Germany. Elon is a literal fucking retard
>>539925734It's not though, you're confusing corporatism with corporatocracy. Corporatism is most like having everyone in society in a guild. Corporatocracy is when corporations and the rich gift themselves all your tax dollars.
>>539925046If the company offended the nation, Hitler would give oversight of the company to a ruling class, not the proletariat. He called giving it to the proliteriat Marxism. So also hitler was not against class.
>>539925116No that's about right. The false dichotomy is capitalism-communism and hitler was against both.
>>539925921>progressive eugenist,imagine thinking modern leftoids are pro eugenic. They idolize being a dysgenic freak and think there's something wrong with you if you aren't one. >>539925950> yous tupid fucking xcunts supporting Mandaniwhat?
The republican party were proto bolsheviks.lincoln was endorsed by karl marx and the US practiced racial wealth and land redistribution after the civil war using the Freedman's Bureau. The modern republican party is full of trostkyites that led the US into "nation building" wars for israel.
>>539926118Reconstruction might as well have been communist. Eustace Mullins points this out in Curse of Canaan.
Fascism and socialism are the same thing practically. The only identity above them is Capitalism.
>>539926220>Eustace MullinsOne of the greatest Americans of the past 100 years.
>>539924777>>777
>>539925873>American has been a brutal fascist police state for 150 years now.I know, you are so right. The baltic republics have been the beacons of freedom and liberty for 200 years.Any serious student of history knows that Elon is exactly right. Frederick Hayek, the 20th centuries greatest polymath, nobel prize winner, and holder of PhD's in economics, law, political philosophy, philosophy, and eight other honorary doctorates!!!He literally lived in Berlin in 1930s, and was there .... and he concurs, in several of his works, that Nazism ... IS A SOCIALIST movement.The nazis .... nationalized the banksnationalized the railwaysnationalized the steel worksnationalized the coal worksspend grossly on public projects (like the autobahn) and employed MILLIONS of german citizensmoreover, THEY EXPRESSLY CALLED THEMSLEVES NATIONAL FUCKING "SOCIALISTS" YOU FUCKING MORONSYOU THINK HITLER DIDNT KNOW WHAT "SOCIALIST" MEANS????You people are so fucking stupid. Im amazed at the levels of retardation around here. Bunch of fucking muzzrats, shitskins and streetshitters argueing about who is more white. What a fuckin dump this place has become.Read a fucking book FFS ... if any of you even know how to read anymore! fucking retards.Hitler would have GASSED everyone of you fuckin losers. Socialist or not, he wasnt a fucking streetshittin degenerate muzzie lovin faggot.
>>539924777Ahh yes, it's just Hitler said "When I become your leader I will make sure there are no borders, no walls. We are all one race, the human race. And the only time I'll stop argueing for immigrant rights is when a black woman is talking, because I'll be too busy listening" My favorite Hitler quote.
>>539924777No, they are retarded. Hitler was an ultra nationalist, like all the far right. The far left is ultra internationalist as in The Communist International famously known as The Comintern. That is why the left is so pro-immigrant and the right is so against.
I fucking hate this retard
>>539925097nazis were socialist authoritarianscommies were socialists authoritariansI think you can see the similarities. Supposedly commies were also egalitarian, but in practice I don't think there was a one commie state where that was a thing
>>539925046>Fascism and Nazism is basically just repacked Marxism with the workers replaced with raceAh, so not Marxism. Good to know.
>>539925227China is not 3rd position. It's definitely globalist capitalist. It probably relies on the global market more than any other nation for jobs
>>539924777elon musk: retardedthe nazis:-privatized resources-were literally allied with monarchists (franco, mussolini, japan)-had business dealings with u.s. corporations-biggest political competition was german bolshevik party-racism and concentration camps based on identity politics, not class consciousness-anschluss is a conservative call to an imperial past, not an egalitarian future-allied with catholic church-"traditional values"-fucking had a war with fucking soviet russiaany retard that says nazis were leftist needs to kill themselves
>>539924777>Hitler was wokeCan Rightoids get anymore retarded?
>>539924891>>539925164
>>539926758Didn't read.Baltics have nothing to do with America. Your entire argument is based on deflection.
>>539927114Concerning
>>539924777NATIONAL Socialists are the enemies of TRANSNATIONAL Capitalists ie Elon and his motley crew of liberal Indians and Jews.
>>539925051Not me. I'm smiling from both ends right meow.
>>539924777wokeler
>>539927164"commies" were Jews out for Jews in a nation of Russians.Nazis were Germans out for Germans in Germany, but also wanted to liberate Russians from Jews in USSR.
>>539927114>every few days uses the same phrase out of hundreths of other tweets>I HATE THIS RETARD!11!!!!111
>>539927321Fucking based and real but take care the three letter nibbas don't overhear the realness
>>539924777>everything i don't like is literally hitler so basic so tiresomesuch a great argument FOR the ideologies of the 3rd reich these people have understood nothingtheir hypocrisy will be the noose that humanity anheroes with
>>539924777> Hitler was the real left his ideology has "socialism" in it. Classic kike talking point.No wonder the shabbos Goyim that is Elon is shilling it.
>>539927373Well yeah, but in the end both were surveillance authoritarian states. And that's what matters for the people at the bottom of the power dynamics. authoritarians always get corrupted with power sooner or later
>>539924777All this faggot ever does is shill jew talking points.
>>539927114>implying these are not automated ngmi
Word's first trillionaire wants to paint the left-wing as evil unreasonable bastards, what a shock.
>>539924777Anyone who finds arguments like that compelling is genuinely low IQ. If leftists were truly like Hitler, nationalists should be happy about woke. But they're not because obviously any similarities between the two are superficial and completely irrelevant against the actual differences. Retards who like that argument are also thrilled about classics like "Democrats are the real racists" or "The KKK was a democrat movement".
>>539924777>Eli>account based in IsraelImagine my surprise
>>539927394ahh yes the superman who spends 24h posting hundreds of replies on X, micromanages several tech companies, plays the most autistic games that require 8+ hours of dedication per day to perfection, socialises with people and does a thousand other things at the same timewow you are so cool and nonretarded if only you would become my best friend
Left = Big government, Rights enforced by laws and Rights removed by lawsRight = Small government, Rights enforced by not having laws and Rights removed because there isnt a law to protect it.
>>539925046The amount of pilpul in this post is insane.Anyhow, racial tribalism predates your Marxist nonesense.
>>539927798turd position = when i slid a fucking log down somebody's throte
Tech-tards and their 'alt-right' investments have decided on a campaign of veiled negrolatry plus civic nationalism.So pretty much a return to the 90's as so many asked for. As for the reality that it has no chance in hell of producing anything better than Hollywood, well, no one cares about that either, which is quite grim.
>>539924777Yes. All the nazis did was invade white countries and kill whites.
>>539927164The free market supporters as liberals physcially sat on the left in the first French National assembly. The French revolution is where we get the terms left and right from. Liberalism is leftist and so are all its children - neo-liberals, libertarians, anarchists. The right wing opposes capitalism. This doesn't imply "socialism" in the modern sense, but many early socialists were explicitly right wing (including sitting on the literal right wing in parliaments e.g., the Kathedersozialismus).Capitalism is the handmaiden of liberalism it destroys the community and asserts the primacy of the individual. Capitalism and liberalism arose together. If you support capitalism you support everything downstream of that - moral degeneracy, erosion of community, destruction of the nation, everything at core of how leftists have subverted western civilization.
>>539924777No
>>539924777Well, it's not particularly difficult to argue that.It still sounds a lot like a reverse "Everyone I don't like is literally Hitler", i.e. "Hitler is literally anything I don't like."
>>539927798Absolute nonsense that flies in the face of the entire history of politics and political philosophy. It astounds me how ignorant some people are.The very basis of right wing thought is a rejection of liberal claims to abstract universal "rights". The whole impetus of the right is about organic institutions not abstract rights. The right is not about "small government".
>>539924777>Man who spent his entire life fighting the historical equivalent of the modern 'left', was actually 'the modern left'I hate this dumbass projection shit, it's too transparent.
>>539928161I mean maybe I agree but you also must concede that the last 180 years since the French Revolution, we have created the most advanced, well educated, technological human civilization in all recorded history. Comes with the territory I think no?
>>539924777Thought he deliberately called his movement nationalist socialist to appeal to both the left and right. It was revolutionary and forward thinking fused with traditional/ancient ideals. It’s a mixed bag. I don’t particularly care for fascism if it means state-corporate power. We’ve had that for a century and it’s turned everything to rot.
So yes capitalism erodes society’s moral values, but it’s also elevated its power, technology, science, medicine, culture, etc etc to all time high. I think it’s the best system humans have created SO FAR. We need a new political revolution to create whatever comes next. It won’t be socialism or communism because those are old and tried.
>>539924777>muh left muh right
Hence the leftist term “late-stage capitalism”, I term I hate to use because it’s one of those buzzwords they love to blame everything on.. but that’s genuinely what we are discussing.It’s like when you play a new multiplayer game, it’s SOOO fun and everyone is learning and getting better and having awesome fights and PvP… but then a month down the line, now it’s got a meta, and that’s fine, it’s almost even better this way because you start playing really good.. then 2-4 months goes by, and everyone is only using the meta, and people start cheating or hacking or exploiting on top of that. We’ve played out capitalism and it’s being exploited and abused by niggers who hack. That’s basically what’s happening. We need a new game or a big update.
>>539924777Hitler was neither left nor right. National Socialism was a radical centrist movement, that absorbed the best elements of all other movements: ecologism and body cult from the youth movements, militarism and nationalism from the right, meritocracy and socialism from the left. The main left-wing parties of the Weimar Republic were SPD (social democrats) and KPD (communists), the right-wing parties were Zentrum (christian conservatives) and DNVP (monarchists) — all of them hated Hitler and the NSDAP and their policies were similar to what drives Germany into chaos and poverty today. Also, while its opponents clung to their parties, the long-term goal of the NSDAP was to eliminate all political parties as soon as the political situation was stabilized, since factionism splits a people into groups that fight themselves, as opposed to a common enemy. All that left- and right-winger care for is their own career and their specifically left- and right-wing programs. National Socialism was ready to try whatever works, in service of the fatherland.
>>539928491We have no way of knowing what the world may have been like in the absence of the French revolution. It may have been far better than anything we have today.Human happiness comes from social bonds, family community, your role in your community. We may have a technologically advanced civilization. But we are not happier. Studies show traditional societies are happiest. Your technology, your GDP doesn't contribute to that. Liberalism and capitalism have created a society where community has been eroded, social trust has been eroded, family has been diminished, people no longer feel they have a role in their community they are just there to earn money, they don't feel like they contribute to anything greater than themselves and at the same time they work more than medieval peasants. And our modern world has 8 billion people far more than the earth can sustain leaving little room for nature and as a result we are in the midst of a mass extinction. Man has lost his connection nature as he has lost his connection to community.
>>539924777He was either a leftist or a liarNeonazis cope and seethe
>>539924777Left and right are both secularited eschatologies.
>>539924777It's true though libtards don't hate dictators they love them and want to be them.
>>539924891no he aint a retard. he knows exactly what he is doing
Why would anybody take the same tired old bullshit serious at this point? Are you all too young or do you have fish memory?Whatever party is in power gets called nazis all the fucking time. Red team is now realizing they're going to lose power so they're already adjusting to the tone of calling blue team nazis.
>>539924777The Nazis were highly organised and military driven and covered in symbolism just that alone is right wing, the Soviets had none of that.
>>539924777hitler was extremely right.this is just imbecile talking points. they have actually no idea what right or left stands for and have skewed the meaning.
>>539928537>Thought he deliberately called his movement nationalist socialist to appeal to both the left and right. This is a common myth. It shows an ignorance of history. The term socialist hadn't coalesced around marxism at that time. Thoughtout the 19th century and early 20th century there right wing socialist groups. Many right wing political groups and thinkers in Germany and Austria used the term socialist well before the nazis e.g., Spengler's "Prussian socialism", Lanz's " Aryan socialism" and many used the term national socialist well before the nazis. The use of the term socialist signaled that they were collectivist, nationalist and anti-capitalist.
>>539924777Hitler was a homeless artist and animal rights hippie, basically the antifa of his day.
>>539924777Left wing and right wing are outdated descriptors.
Your views on centrism and relating it to fence sitting is exactly why Hitler was actually a centrist
>>539924777No, Elon is fucking retarded. Hitler was right wing, otherwise a world war wouldn't have been orchestrated to bring down this nation
>>539924777Retard takes as usual. Economically they would just be considered leftist, insofar as it served to raise the German folk above capitalists: Not far left. But the remaining positions were not leftist. "Third position" is more accurate and using the classic dichotomy to summarize it isn't fitting.
>>539924777He was a totalitarian.Communists and Nazis are both totalitarians.left and right are antiquated terms that emerged from the french revolution. Left are revolutionaries and right are traditionalists.
If any of you retard faggots took history or read a book other than mein kumpf you would actually and factually know he was a left leaning politician. For fuck sakes this site is so full of shit skins and Jews it’s unbelievable. The guy even mentions it several times in scripture.
>>539931377If that were the case provide a quote.There are plenty of examples of him explicitly stating that he a d his movement are right wing.“I am not a socialist in the way you understand. I am a nationalist. I am on the right.”“What Hitler Wants,” The Saturday Evening Post, July 1932.“National Socialism stands as the right against Bolshevism.”Reichstag speech, 23 March 1933
