would anyone worship god if he didn't promise eternal life?
>>539942608So it feels good/freeing to be retarded, then?
>>539942711i would imagine.
Believing in an afterlife is just a copium to believe you matter after death as you never did in life..Newsflash, you'll return to fertilizer for plants even if burnt. You never mattered!
>>539942861i think reincarnation makes more sense
>>539942608yeslooking at the night sky is enough for me to understand that all of this is not the fruit of randomness but of Godthen looking at kikes is enough for me to understand that the Lord Jesus Christ is the One who created all of it.
>>539943016how do you know it was LORD GAWWWDDDD JEWSUS CHEEERIIISSSTTTTT and not a god from before the advent of the written word, forgotten to time?
>>539943096because the highest form of evil in this world hates Jesus Christ more than anything else that is, was or will be.John 15:18-20King James Version18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.20 Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.just take a look at the catalog any given day on this website
>>539943189you didn't answer the question. you just pasted a bible verse. i'm asking you, not king james.
>>539943293>>539943189>because the highest form of evil in this world hates Jesus Christ more than anything else that is, was or will be.are you ok ?
>>539942608Would a being claiming to be God really be God, if it lacked the ability to grant eternal life? /thread
>>539943328that is irrelevant to the question, a non-sequitur. can you respond to the question? how do you know the christian or abrahamic god created the universe and not a god that has been lost to time?
>>539942608Eternal life is a feature. Doesn't require a promise. These bodies are like 'avatars'. Your real body is in the spiritual dimension.
>>539942608>eternal lifeI cant think of anything more horrifying
>>539942608God never promised it. Jude did.
>>539943417who said lack of ability? he has the ability but maybe he doesn't want to exercise it. god works in mysterious ways, does he not?
>>539943424He can't because all three branches of Abrahamic religion rotted his brain.
>>539942608Why would anyone want eternal life? It is widely regarded as a curse in the fictional stories where it is shown. Do you really want to watch everyone and everything you love turn to dust?
>>539942994Reincarnation is the true Hell
>>539942861actually you do matter, everything is matter
>>539943572>Do you really want to watch everyone and everything you love turn to dust?the more cerebral christians view heaven (and hell) as spiritual realms with time dilation and all sorts of crazy shit. i dont think that sounds like a curse. "DUUUDE ITS A BIG PARTY AND WE'RE ALL WEARING WHITE TUXEDOS!!!!" is 60 IQ flyover evangelical nonsense.
>>539943096>not a god from before the advent of the written word, forgotten to time?The Christian God predates the written word and as soon as man had language to name God, God was named, as soon as man had paper to write the name of God, his name was written. All things come in their time and proper place, as is the plan. Before time existed God existed, before matter was the world God existed, before light was a photon bouncing around at the speed of light God existed. There is no "god forgotten to time" as such a 'god' would be proven a pretender as God can not be lost to time. God has always existed and will always exist. To God 'time" is just a language he uses to paint reality in a lower dimension of reality. You feeble man apes think yourselves so clever, and so smart, and so above God and his power. Your words serve only to paint you as the pure idiots you are. Every time you open your mouths you prove how weak and lost and possessed by the devil's philosophy you truly are. Many such cases, sad.
>>539943189christcattle
>>539943424your statement about my statement being irrelevant to your question as no more value than my own affirmationi would argue that your statement is even more irrelevant and baseless because i clearly provided a proof :the evil of this world is clearly observable, you can name it, you can name and trace its origin, you can observe its doingthey are telling you openly who they worship and have been doing it since the dawn of timeand that evil hates Jesus Christ more than anything else
>>539943797more christ-vermin
>>539943797abrahamic religions are only ~4000 years old. sungir man didn't know about any of this. what god created him?
>>539943494>would anyone worship god if he didn't promise eternal life?This is the question. Are you alleging the question is "Would any one worship God if he had the ability to grant eternal life, but refused to grant it to anyone or promise it in anyway?"If that's the question I challenge it on merits as such a God is a strawman and would never exist in real life, what you describe is not a thing. >>539943879Find Christ brother, it's never too late...until it is.
>>539942608Jehovah's Witnesses already do that. That's one reason why all the other sects hate us. The idea of worshiping God in return for nothing is offensive to them.
>>539944026>That's one reason why all the other sects hate usyou're taking another step that is unecessaryActs 4:11-13King James Version11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.1 John 2:22-24King James Version22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.John 6:28-30King James Version28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
>>539943903Before you are aware of your parents as you creators you are still alive, aware and growing. A child 2 days old has no idea who created it or why. So too is it with man, for a long long time they were like babies who couldn't speak or reason, or walk or do anything. So before they could walk they could not know whom their father was. When man grew old enough, and wise enough, and mature enough, and had the tools to understand, then and only then did God tell what needed to be told. Your logic is childish and sad, you're a sad loser of a person let me explain why. Why would Abrahamic Religions being written down 4000 years ago mean God couldn't have made the people before? Or the plants or animals or the rocks and stars? Your logic is so flawed and childish there doesn't even exist a standard logical fallacy to ascribe it too. You're just making up corrolations based on nonsense. Humans didn't invent God 4000 years ag0, God invented man and man simply discovered God after many many years in the darkness. Just like North America existed before humans first walked on it's soil 15,000+ years ago. Discovery of a preexisting place or thing doesn't mean it never existed per-discovery, fucking retard. See this is the problem, you faggots lack any debate or philosophy skills, whatsoever, and you think you have the chops to debate theology, which is a major branch of philosophy. You all need to go read a book and stop jacking off to traps.
>>539943677I don't know man, matter is made up of atoms and atoms make up everything!I wouldn't trust em.
>>539944262sorry but i think sungir man's god was the one true god. you're going to hell.
>>539942608I am my own godI don't have daddy issues like you faggot
>>539944510Are you your own daddy too?
>>539943424The open secret is it's just a lens on something far older. Moses as an archetype goes back at least 80k years. It's like a spiral through time. Every age has their own. There's nothing new the pattern remains the same. Jesus Christ as a symbolic concept existed way before the man. Gilgamesh is a character about integration too. Modern Abrahamism is solely meant to exact control and order into the world. Pagans had to go there was no way around it. If you cannot accept things in the entirety and remove your own feelings and self from it there's no use even thinking about it because you'll just be stuck inside paradox. There is only one god and it's been beside us the entire time. Right here, right now.
>>539942608Ask the Jews. Their god Yahweh never offered eternal life once in the Old Testament. In fact he expressly tried to prevent Adam and Eve from achieving it in the garden. It was only the snake and Jesus who offered eternal life.
>>539942608It's the right thing to do. I guess so God won't burn you in Hell.
>>539942608Never really factored in. Didn't take it seriously when i wasn't a beliver and already was before I started contemplating it seriously. In fact even now i often stuggle to conceive of paradise and there is even a good but of fear there. How could the self survive something so transformative when our pains and familial and romantic connections make up of so much of who we are? The promise of heaven is in fact something that chafes at the ego more than bit and instead something you surrender to in faith. I became a christian in the illumination of the truth of the world of god, the overwhelming love of grace, and in seeing the works of the adversary. Neither fear of punishment nor promise of reward were ever relevant. It's not the gotcha you think it is.
>>539942994I think so tooI've had strage dreams and deja vu which convinced me.
>>539943639Fucking based depiction.
>>539943639Buddhist rebirth is not the same as Hindu reincartation. Even if most pious Buddhists may have nearly the same idea of it as Hindus, due to allegorical teachings for the feeble minded, the philosophy behind the concepts is essentially different. Hindu philosophy assumes a metaphysical body that persists through multiple existences, a wanderer who reincarnates again and again, whereas Buddhist philosophy explains everything as cause and effect only, without any persisting substance playing a role in it.
>>539944026Do ut des.
>>539942861you can acknowledge the divine without believing in an afterlife
>>539942608Before I was reborn, i had no direction in my life. good and bad were so comingled and indistinguishable. But then I saw demons and my whole life changed. I worship Jesus daily, hourly, constantly. Eternal Life is just a bonus; I started my second life as a saved man, and it's the most difficult path I have ever traversed, but I know it is right.
