Why would this not work?
>>539974039"I will comply with clearly stated lawful orders">I smell alcohol, anon, step out of the car, give me your license and spread your legs for me
>>539974039Supreme court allows cops to pull you out of your car for no reason and do a 'limited search' of your person and vehicle for their 'safety' and that is when they plant the evidence in your car.
>>539974039because this schizos dick is 2 inches long and your “rights” mean nothing in the face of the revenge he feels he is owed for being bullied in high school
>>539974228That tracks since guns are everywhere in america and certain types of humanoids really like to shoot at police officers when caught committing serious crimes like going 125 MPH or fleeing the scene of a crash they caused or stealing things from the store.
>>539974039Doing this is functionally indistinct from just handing the cop your papers and saying "Okay" whenever he accuses you of something. Well, it's distinct in that you're more likely to get fucked if you have something illegal in your car.Seriously, "Okay" is the magic word. Cops use it in every single Bodycam video as a sign that they heard, but they neither agree nor disagree with your statement.
>>539974039>issues you a citation for obstructing your windows>tells you to stop out of the car>breaks your window and tazes you when you refuse
>>5399740391. The amount of effort needed to turn a traffic stop into an arrest/altercation is basically non existent2. Cops do not like challenges to their authority 3. There are plenty of cops who are more than willing to risk punishment to fuck with someone 4. Many cops do not know, or care about the law
>>539974152How can they smell alcohol if I didn't open the window?
>Crawl towards me!>KABLAM
>>539974423thats something youll have to fight in court :)
>>539974039>carfag>with his little sign>and his good boy card>to prove he's a good boy>>539974152>I smell alcohol>BTW, there's more beer in the cafe car ;)>Welcome aboard Mr. Anon, have another pleasant journey.
>>539974228Cops can not do a search of your vehicle for their safety. They can if they have some kind of probable cause that you have something illegal inside your vehicle, or they can do it if they've arrested you for another crime. They can order you to step out of your vehicle, but absent probable cause they can not pat you down for "safety".
I am an officer of the courts please let me know if you require assistance
>>539974039Drivers are required to identify themselves during a traffic stop, and covering up all the actual information on his license would be considered failure to identify, which is arrestable. Officers can also order you to get out of your vehicle as long as there was a legal reason for the stop. The legal reason can be as small as going 1 MPH over the speed limit, it doesn't matter.
>>539974373that cow mommy would fix me
>>539974522>meanwhile in reality
>>539974039>My drug dog here just drooled a little. I'm going to need to hit your car with a sledgehammer, sorry.
Makes me wanna become a cop just to fuck with these autistic nerds. I'd be like>Nah, get out of the vehicle, buddy, and make it quick 'cuz I ain't got all day >Yo, pick up the pace here a little, jeez>Oh, you motherfucker... Listen, an officer of the law just gave you an instruction now do as yo- fuck it>POW POW POW GET OUT OF THE CAR >#dispatch, we got shots fired and suspect is down
>>539974673based acorn cop https://youtu.be/MZPplp7wGso
SHALL
>>539974606What caused a ukranian woman's senses to become this dull, that she would sit right in front of a massive threat?The African Elephant is one of the most racist beings on this entire planet.They can smell a nigger from miles away. They will make sure they never cross paths. This isn't "I am an elephant, I just avoid black people" -- no, the elephant can smell your local tribe. It will determine whether you are a Black Person or a Nigger. It can smell whether or not this person will read books or suddenly reach for a knife and start stabbing at random. It will do this before you even see it, and then you will never see the elephant if you are a threat to it.Be more like the Elephant.
>>539974606Virgin Charlotte light rail>Full of fare skippers, drug addicts, mental patientsChad Amtrak>Conductors who check tickets. If you're a regular, they already know you and welcome you by name. No need Mr. Anon, I see you right here on the manifest. If a nignog wants to play his mixtape too loud and smoke a blunt, they don't even wait for the next station, they stop the train and throw the nigger off in the wilderness.You really should try riding the Amtrak some time.
>>539974774>>539974767or i could just drive my car and roll the 1000 sided die on getting pulled over for something retarded instead of rolling that same die on getting murdered by a literal feral ape
>>539974735Why his shoes going squeak, squeak, squeak, squeak
>>539974865Your chances of getting in a car accident are far higher than getting stabbed on the train.
>>539974039Basically a guaranteed method to escalate a routine stop and turn a traffic fine into an actual issue.
>>539974039This would imply police follow the law and know the law. Most police only have a surface level understanding of the law. Basically enough knowledge to know how to break it without anyone finding out when needed to get their job done. They're not lawyers and they can and will break laws because they do it all the time because they there's no repercussions.
All of that seems fine.But what i do not get about you yanks is, why make a 1 min traffic stop in to an arrest and pepper spray and a possible bullet in the brain?Why do you think arguing with a cop who caught you speeding in a school zone is productive?>MUH RIGHTS ARE VILLATEDIf so, why not remain calm, video the interaction and retain a lawyer to sue and win the lottery?Why do even white yanks chimp the fuck out at cops when caught speeding? Ergo ceding any moral high ground and grounds to sue.I call this the Amerimutt Speed Question or the ASQ for short.
>>539974481/thread If you done fucked up.>Anon, license and registration >*hands over license*>Anon, where are you going to?>"I have right to remain silent">Anon, what are you doing>"I have right to remain silent">Anon, go ahead and step out of the car>*steps out of car*>Anon, I'm placing you under arrest>"This is an unlawful detention">Anon, no its not, you can fight this in court>*steps into police cruiser*>*goes to jail*>*bonds out*>*hires lawyer*>*sues for unlawful arrest*>*pays lawyer*~~~~~~Anon not fucked up>Anon, license and registration >"here ya go buddy">Anon, where you going>"Down the road to get some food">Anon, what are you doing>"Im hungry and would like to eat">Anon, where are you coming from?>"The place I just left">Anon, which was?>"Nun ya!">Anon, you were traveling 43 mph in a 40 zone, here's your ticket >Anon, anything in the vehicle?>"Nope">Anon, can I search?>"Nope">Anon, why?>"Because I value my privacy more than your investigation">Anon, we're getting a K9>Anon, Step out>*step out and wait for 30 minutes*>Anon, my K9 hit on your car we're searching>Anon, Okay, we didn't find anything have a good day, pay your ticket
>>539974548>probable causeKinda loose with interpretting what that meansAlso cops dont know the laws or care
>>539974039Evidently you haven't seen any of the dozens of yt vids where they just bust the window and drag you out.Pic related my fave. Watch as the sullen Marine Lt Colonel listens to an officer explain they WILL bust her window and she WILL be pulled out and taken to jailhttps://youtu.be/g7F5EGZL93w?si=bInH1Opi0WCzLxXU&t=350
>>539974039Pussy modern nu-male behavior.
it's always funny to methe people who think trains are dangerous will hop in the aluminum air tube with a bunch of apes without making a peep about iton the train, if picrel happened, those niggers would be dumped off, on the spotbut on a plane, they can't just open a door and toss them, you're stuck with the roiting apes until you land
>>539975037BTW if you didn't do anything actually violent (eg. physically fighting the cops) it's very easy to lawyer your way out of anything. Humans as a species generally don't like violence and it's what separates us from niggers.
>>539974774I live right next to the tracks and i wave to them when they go by. The train travels at a high rate of speed I think i will be taking a trip shortly
>>539974767every incel needs to sage itself IRLholy fuck
>>539975471silence, leaf
>>539974767because ukrainians, along with the rest of eastern europe, believe america is like in the movies where black people are morgan freeman and forest whitaker. "around blacks, never relax" is lost on them because bruno mars is black and he seems nice and harmless and i bet that nigger with dreadlocks in the hoodie muttering to himself and playing with his knife is basically bruno mars
>>539974993Body cams exist now. Theyre literally always acting up because they know if their names are run (and you have to provide a license to operate a motor vehicle) they will pop on CAD for warrants. Its always the same shit.>why you harassin me :(>you're going 55 in a 25 school zone, you have to prove you can drive >noooooo >:(>speed off/chimp out/stall for 45 minutes holding up traffic >run a kid over/crash into an innocent family>wind up identified anyway>have multiple outstanding warrants ACABfaggots cried for body cams and 99.999% of the time the cop is beyond reasonable, patient.Ever since most departments adopted body cams and strict policies complaints against cops have plummeted. Hell if anything they've become a complete cultural obsession in the inverse of what was intended. More people watch body cam videos than they do major Hollywood movies now.
>>539974299going 125 miles per hour isnt a 'serious crime' you cucked faggot, are you jewish or just british? fuckin pussy.
>>539975471>incel
>>539974039>receive lawful order to exit the vehicle>insist it is not a lawful order>get dragged out and probably hurt>cops throw the book at you
Police interaction takes seconds. Do you know why I stopped you, yes I was flying down that hill. And I was it was 3am and I was coming off a mountain and just let my rig roll. He laughed and gave me a warning. Do you know why I stopped you, yes I did a California stop at the three way proceeds to get loud and eyes get teary and he says I just picked up body parts right out there on the interstate last week. I am really sorry you went through that and we talked for a bit and he gave me a warning. That wreck really got to this guy and I gave him a little compassion. You don't have to be a prick. Been arrested before. It took less than three minutes. I don't argue because you look like a fucking idiot. Bail and judge does his thing. The minute you are arrested the job of the cops is literally done with you. Fact. No one will ever testify in court that I acted like a four year old when dealing with cops. How humiliating.
>>539975645Even so there are videos where a cop definitely acts out of line.>video where they get into a gunfight with a drugged up nigger on a bus in Wisconsin>this ends in a female hostage getting shot in the head by one of the cops>further, the whole thing happened because they didn't do a proper pat-down and missed his gun>there are these women watching from about 25 feet away and one of the cops is yelling "Do not put your hand in your bag, lady! Do not reach in there!"The last one especially. No, a woman reaching for her phone or medication in her purse, especially at a good distance away, is not reaching for a gun, you stupid idiot and fuck you for even accusing her of that.
>>539974039it does workso does telling them that you're just traveling
>>539974039Because sovereign citizens are not human and therefore the law does not apply to them.
They can order you to get out of the car without needing special justification (Pennsylvania v. Mimms), which they're almost certainly immediately going to do if you try to pull this, in which case what's the point
>>539975917Of course there are, there are still bad cops. I won't even deny that. But there HAS been a total tone shift when discussing police from the past 10 years and it is BECAUSE of body cams (which ACABs and trannies and blacks demanded). Cops are -literally- celebrities now. I bet more people watch Midwest Safety or any other knockoff channel than 90% of new TV shows and movies. Everyone has been exposed to what they have to deal with for real now and the absolute human filth they have to treat with kid gloves. There will always be bad cops but Americans in general are treated like toddlers by their so called militarized police force who even try to talk down people shooting at them sometimes. There is a level of American society that is just absolute fucking scum, bottom of the barrel type "people".
>>539974228It’s based on how much of a hassle they think you’re going to be. This guy is gonna piss in their ear the whole time he’s getting booked and no one wants to put up with that.
>>539974774everytime I rode amtrak it was delayed hours. it's probably better on the east coast.
>>539974039America's first real local police law is pinkertons beating the shit out of people who don't show them respect. It's a tradition. You're basically asking to get your shit pushed in, unless you get extremely lucky and stumble on a real lolbert conservatard of a cop, which is unlikely.
The problem with that letter assumes the cop knows how to read EnglishYou have to write it in ebonics or Spanish
>>539976082Notice that's some performative jester on social media signaling for uptoots. That's not an actual person actually doing that, because real people aren't that thick.
>>539975037i used to fear the police when i lived in the US.I don't in Canada.they're just regular people, they're not militarized, they use different tactics.some dicks too, no doubt. but they're not looking to parade their authority.
>>539974039The law doesn't apply to cops that's a problem for the courts
>>539974039assumes cops can read
>>539974228you left out they then suspect your car was involved in drug dealing and impound it and auction it off a year later for beer money
>>539974039would be very inconvenient to try and roll the window down with this stuck to it. seems retarded
>>539976406Sure they have. Most of the time they don't though.
>>539976256The issue is a lot of departments indoctrinating officers to assume every person in visual range is a potential threat, and that's not good. It leads to situations like >>539975917 where it's assumed anyone reaching into their purse for an innocuous item is trying to get out a weapon. That needs to stop.
>>539974039They will break your window and drag you out of your car and impound your vehicle.Best case scenario they call out a drug dog to sniff your car for a couple hours just to be petty and waste your time.
>>539974606i'm more likely to get killed by a nigger in a road rage incident than i am on transit. congrats, you found a black swan event which is completely atypical of the typical transit experience. it's newsworthy because it doesn't happen.
>>539975037>talking to policePolice will tell their kids to shut the fuck up and say nothing other than cordial compliance with instructions, because everything you say can be used against you.Obey their instructions but do not tell a cop detaining you a goddamn thing.
>>539976067god damn it you fucking FAGGOT, I DON'T CARE ABOUT ANY OF THAT. ALL THOSE FAGGOTS DESERVE TO BE EXECUTED AT FIRST CONTACT.
>>539974481>>539975037Common law right to travel without let or hindrance would like to speak to you.
>>539974039It works if you're white. If you're black, you're cooked.
>>539974423>this fool thinks cops don't just make things up because they don't like youlol. Niggers have been saying this for 150 years.They're almost always guilty of something, but that doesn't mean they're wrong. And since they're used to doing this with niggers, they'll do it with you too.
>>539974474I was a foreign volunteer with the Kurdish Peshmerga and Dwekh Nawsha during the ISIS conflict and these videos were wild and I've been to where one video was recorded before we recaptured it during the battle of Sinjar>pic relatedYes that's a captured ISIS flag, and it's folded like that because I had to fold it so white was showing and put it in an envelope of sorts and as a joke I wrote Sports Flag - UK on the outside (you know how many ISIS prisoners from London I captured/part of a raid lol, I flex cuffed half of London, Stockholm, and Berlin, definitely shot some). But yeah I didn't want it to get seized by some faggot ass Europoor on my way back to Texas. And yes that's a HWNDU magnet ;) and I'm a Catholic White boy from east Texas and I went because Muslims were slaughtering Christians, that's all. Fought there as an infantry ZOGbot in early GWOT and it was kino, kinda missed that life, and they were killing Christians on what is rightful Christian clay because it once was Christian Iraq and Christian Syria.>tl;dr I'm buzzed and like telling war stories
>>539974039It's over-the-top. Just hand over the license, registration, and insurance papers when requested, and respond to non-identification questions with>I'm not answering questions about my day>Am I free to go?>I have nothing to sayIn that order.
>>539976660black pieces of shit are the last niggers who should be encouraged to play any more bullshit games with society, so just shut the fuck up. no one asked for cucked british bullshit opinions you motherfucking cocksucker, fuck you and fuck your entire god damn family too, now get off the site. you're done posting.
>>539974039Supreme Court ruled in Pennsylvania versus Mims that they can ask you to get out if they feel there is a security threat. So they just say they think there's a security threat for every stop they feel like. Also they are detaining you under suspicion of a crime, you have to provide your name. Other than that you can just not say anything.
>>539976740>Just lick the boots!
>>539974039You're detained and if they tell you to roll the window down you have to, or exit the vehicle you have to. There's case law regarding this, you're the most base level layman if you can't even look that up. You can ask chatgpt, it's never been easier not to be retarded.
>>539974039Because cops can stretch the law to cover their ass and do whatever they want and just say, "whoops, my mistake!" and get away with it.
>>539976763>lick the bootsI'm talking about providing what you are required by law to provide, shitskin-who-knows-fuck-all-about-US-law.
>>539974039> I am not required to signYou are required to sign> I won’t get out of the car Pennsylvania versus Mimms
>>539974152More like I smell a muslim bussy that needs breaking. This lawful order is take off your pants and put your hand on your feet.
>>539974039You literally have no rights until you argue them in court after the fact. Cops will do whatever the fuck they at the time of the (((investigation))) and usually there will be no repurcussions even if everything they do violates your so-called rights because they'll just come up with excuses and obfuscate the situation in court.
>>539974152wait is it really just a bunch of drunks trying to get out of DUIs?
>>539976763>british nigger acting like he has any leg to stand on regarding overpolicingwhy would anyone here take an opinion from you you faggot motherfucker, your country's done and you did nothing to stop it. so shut the fuck up and go spin your dreidel again you kike cocksucker piece of shit, you just made me fuckin puke again bitch.
>>539976829I don't give a fuck what Jews think the law says. Common law states that you have the right to travel without let or hindrance.
>>539974039Because you'll hurt some pig's fee fees and their ego is more important than your rights or life.
>>539976834You a lawyer?
>>539976876Why do I have more balls than the average "American"? You're all pathetic bootlickers.
>>539976802>they tell you to roll the window down you have toIncorrect. You're just compelled to show your identification. You can show it through the window.> they can pull you outPennsylvania versus MIM says that they can extract you from the vehicle if there is an outlying threat of danger. Since the police are lawless and do not care about the law, they just exploit this for any reason they want. It's better to get out of the car if asked, is no judge would side with you even though the police would be the criminals in that situation.
>>539976834I actually doubt most cops know PvM anyway. Most of them probably don't know a single USSC case except maybe Miranda v. Arizona.
>>539974039If you are white and look clean and literate, why bother provoking cops into a much worse situation than you had to face. Cops are stupid and tripping, but they will go easy on you if you undergo the humiliation ritual.If you are a lowlife, or look like one, fuck you. I hope they keep you caged.If you are not, but you are a nigger and the like, just wear clean clothes (not a nigger's), drive a well-maintained car, don't smell, behave like a human, have manners, etc. Basically act white and educated, don't do nigger stuff/hustles/whatever and you'll be fine, turns out that's what matters much more than skin colour.
>>539976911you have balls? is that why you sat by and gave up your guns, knives, tasers, clubs, and everything else while allowing shitskin sand niggers to run wild with katanas in the street every night? fuckin faggot, YOU'RE DONE POSTING. COME BACK WITH A VPN.
>>539976887>I don't give a fuck what Jews think the law says. Whether you give a fuck or not you will end up behind bars.>Common law statesI can count the number of times sovereign citizens have won in court on 0 hands when it comes to operating motor vehicles. You're either very young or just such a hermit that you can afford to bullshit about a world you never interact with.
>>539976945Police aren't expected to know any of that stuff anyway. They aren't lawyers.
>>539976911>Why do I have more balls than the average "American"?You don't. I have walked around in public with openly carried firearms and made cops who didn't like it fuck off more times than you ever will.
>>539976945PvM is helpful to know along with Brendlin v California and Maryland v Wilson.
>>539976953What is most peculiar is that actual sketchy people like drug mules often give themselves up peacefully while the worst troublemakers are Karens who got caught shoplifting or driving drunk.
The 5th amendment is a meme. If you ask for a lawyer, guess what happens? You wait in jail. For 1 night, 2 nights, 3 nights. You talk to your lawyer. Uh oh, back to jail for you. 5 days later they got you in to see the judge, he posts your bond hearing date. Another 11 days in jail. Oh finally you got your bond date. $5000. Back to jail to wait for the funds to process. Oh and now you're in the legal system and you have to pay your lawyer and have this hanging over you for 2 months or 6 months....etc.You wonder why people talk to the cops? This is why. In fact the punishment for remaining silent is so severe, most cops rightly assume if you're not talking you're either crazy or you did it. I mean techically they're not supposed to assume that, but realistically that's what they think. And just being straight up with you, if the cops believe you did it, you're going to prison. They will dig up something on you, they will get you at another time. One way or another you're going away. The legal system is just a meme, realistically the cops decide who goes to prison, they are your judge.
>>539976989That is literally the law, is pointing that out now what constitutes a "sovereign citizen" (oxymoron)?>*law states x meaning y is invalid*>"x, therefore not y">what are you, you're a sovereign citizen?You're either a shill or a mindfucked golem.
>>539977123faggot, shut the fuck up you motherfuckin retard. you don't know what you're talking about little bitch. fuck you, and fuck your entire family you fuckin cucked little pussy. you're fuckin nothing you cocksucking fuckin cunt.
>>539974299What is the point of the second if it necessitates this extreme safety concern (which is less dangerous than roofing) and command-style policing, instead of community integration with Japan style police-boxes where you don't get shot for failing a Simon Says interlock your fingers game?
The cop has the IIIA vest, the gun and the badge that lets him get away with murder, so he can ask for whatever he wants and get it, including your bussy if he wants it in that moment and doesn't care what happens after. But cops can weasel around whether they're giving you a "lawful order" or just asking you the same way another citizen might, which can have different legal consequences. If it's clear from the start that you don't comply with anything, the "confession" of the cop searching your car with your permission can become the "fruit of the poisoned tree" from an unlawful forced search, even if he finds a pound of cocaine, 20 pounds of tannerite and five copies of Industrial Society and Its Future in your trunk.This kind of shit puts the pressure on the cop to decide if he wants to escalate to something he might have to stand in court for.
>>539976565I don't know about this advice. If you plead the fifth to everything they say, they're gonna treat you like an asshole. Just keep answers cordial, vague, and readily produce as much ID as possible. I once talked myself out of an arrest by preying on a cop's sympathy, the he-said-she-said nature of the alleged crime, and his unwillingness to fill out more paperwork.
>>539977221>mask slipIt's funny how it's okay when kikes justify their actions using the law but when a normal person does it suddenly they're a "sovereign citizen".
>>539977221nigger
>>539977123This sov cit. or 'Freemen of the Land' is just shit and the 'I'm travelling not driving' is pure bollocks too.
>>539977123>"sovereign citizen"So you're actually ignorant of the whole movement surrounding the "law" you're citing which has never once held up in an actual court of law. You're even more naive and ignorant than I thought.
>>539974901I'll take my chances.
>>539977299>>539977326motherfuck both of you faggots and your entire fuckin pussy ass fuckin faggot families, bitch. you fucking morons are the reason america is this bad in the first fuckin place, dumb asses.
>>539977111That however is not true, there are many cases of people winning big settlements from departments. All you need do is Google "woman/man wins suit against police department." It's actually one of the best ways to get rich quick even if some of the money goes to legal bills.
Qualified immunity amd the fact that you may beat the rap, but not the ride means that once cops decide to interact with you you're fucked either way. You just want to shut your mouth so that worst case scenario (if you really haven't done anything seriously wrong) is that you have to throw a few grand at an attorney. I have one on retainer (about $3k) and his card has been worth the money over the years. Remember, you don't have to actually be doing anything wrong for them to target you.
>>539974152>I didn’t say Simon Says!!!*blam blam blam blam*
>>539977338How is it bollocks though? I can ride a horse on the road but I can't ride an automobile?The driving license system was created for those that were using vehicles for COMMERCIAL PURPOSES, that is FACT. It was never meant to be required for personal transport, however the pricks in government gaslit everyone into thinking you did. It's hard to break a hundred year old habit,
>>539977338It's true in spirit, but it has zero actual enforceable power in any Western nation. I used to have more respect for sovereign citizen and similar style groups until the more I researched, the more I realized the majority of them are just scam artists trying to con anyone and everyone and their claimed belief in principles is bullshit. And those that do genuinely believe, a fuckton of them are literal drug addicts or schizos(not that there's anything wrong with that).
>>539977263Can also be true. Especially since the situation is probably recorded on bodycam now. Back in the 70s cops could do all kinds of niggerish stuff and there was no way to even prove it.
>>539977576some of it is bullshit, nobody is saying you should be allowed to steal or do criminal acts without punishment... but driving offences aren't criminal, they're civil, and it stems from admirality law.
>>539977123Do you have a license to say fuck on the internet if not I'll be sure to call the coppers on you
>>539977561>How is it bollocks though? I can ride a horse on the road As long as you are responsible for its waste and any damage or injury it causes to others.>but I can't ride an automobile?Depending on the laws, no, because it is a piece of heavy machinery that can easily injure or kill others. If you only operate it on your land where nobody is around, chances are nobody will bother you. But once you get out on the road, your ability to operate it becomes a matter of public interest. Remember that more people are killed by cars than guns in this country, and there's no right to operate a motor vehicle in the Constitution.
>>539976716What is up with you weirdos spilling your fucking heart out to strangers on the internet? Are you that lonely?
>>539977546The cops know guilty from innocent in like 95% of cases. They know immediately you are the guy. From there it's just a matter of digginf up dirt on you to put you away. True crime drama is the exception. The reality is like>she doed?>husband has been stressed at work?The end. That's all they need. Now they will proceed to dig up dirt on the husband and put him away.A traffic ticket can be one of any number of an escalating series of punishments based on how much the cop likes you. If you backtalk, they'll escalate, and you'll be arrested. In general the system doesn't listen to your pleas, you're just ignored and marched right along like a cow to the slaughterhouse.
>>539977437It's very true, unless their actions were particularly aggregious you're not going to get an attorney to take your case on contingency. Cops have qualified immunity so they have no incentive to stop the behavior even when there is a big judgement against the department. If you live anywhere there is frequent drug trafficking and you are a male of any race driving any car any time after dark you will be targeted eventually.>t. Used to live on the i35 corridor in TX
>>539977688There's no "right to ride a horse" either but you can because that's covered under the right to travel. Why wouldn't the same apply to automobiles?
>>539977561When you drive a motorised vehicle on the highway, you agree to follow the rules, you are driving NOT travelling and statutes are law - even if sovcits don't think they are. >>539977628> and it stems from admirality law.Here we go. You have been brainwashed kid.
>>539974039Yes sir or ma'am goes a long way. Just roll the fucking window down pussyt. Whitey
>>539974735I dont hate cops enough
>>539977771Alright Einstein, tell me then who is the victim when I drive a motorised vehicle?
Pennsylvania v. Mimms (1977) is a U.S. Supreme Court decision holding that police officers may order a driver out of a vehicle during a lawful traffic stop without needing any extra suspicion.
>>539977705>The cops know guilty from innocent in like 95% of cases.That's horseshit, half my family is LEO and it's the double-digit IQ, alcoholic, wifebeating half. What's even worse is most of the beat cops now are PTSD-ridden veterans or larpers that were too young to get paid to shoot browns in the desert.
>>539977742>There's no "right to ride a horse" either but you can because that's covered under the right to travel.Try riding a horse up the M5 and see how long you last before your 'right to travel' is stopped by the Police.
>>539977701I'm buzzed abcd it's fun sometimes talking about something cool and fun I did because the post I replied to stirred up some personal feelings because I was a part of that event taking place in the photo, well you know what I mean by that, but yeah just replying because of that picture. Why do you care if I do this? Certainly more entertaining than some of these kikebots and shitty jeetnigger posts
>>539977688>because it is a piece of heavy machinery that can easily injure or kill others.I bet you say things like "Assault weapons are a weapon of war and should be restricted, you don't need that to hunt".What a disgrace, all of you. Bitch-made little bitchy witches crying for daddy State to cuddle you. Baby wanna ba-ba? Baby want passy?
B4gHiQ2Wm6h43DpdYou can tell which anon's brother or cousin is a cop because he goes out of his way to white knight them.
>>539977701>Are you that lonely?Married with 3 kids>lmao why are on here?Nigger I've been here off and on since 2003 when I was rapefugee to /b/ from an EverQuest forum
>>539977828The Crown is the victim . . . .you are using amenities, you are not entitled to.
>>539977875Why are you sucking the government's cock so much and bringing up disingenious arguments? I suppose you must be from Mi5
>>539977771For the US at least he's not wrong, but he forgets the hard truth that what's written in law doesn't matter, only how the court chooses to interpret. They will pilpul their way out of the most plain language possible to uphold the status quo thanks to our English common law heritage and the semetic infiltration of our courts.
>>539977950>The Crown is the victim . . . .you are using amenities, you are not entitled to.What's with those dots faggot?
>>539977945You don't have to lie. You were not on /b/ at 2003. (/pol/ was like 2012)
>>539974039Look up Pennsylvania V. Mimms
>>539977628>some of it is bullshit, nobody is saying you should be allowed to steal or do criminal acts without punishmentLook up the Montana Freemen. Once you start writing checks from your own bank or issuing your own currency and using it to satisfy public and private debts without making them aware in advance that you're going to do so, it becomes fraud. That's a big problem with many sovereign citizen types. I've got no problem with individuals agreeing to engage in barter with their own non-government-issued currency, but once you start trying to pass it to someone whose expectation is normal fiat you're a con artist.>but driving offences aren't criminalTell that to Darrell Brooks. Like it or not, cars are lethal weapons and it's actually far easier to kill or injure large groups of people with them than you can with a gun.
Obstruction is a made-up offense when cops don't have anything to actually detain you for.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZmkTPuLWFsThe methbilly chick is right. the cops were threatening to arrest her for showing up at her inbred uncle's traffic stop. they don't actually have a legitimate grounds for arrest and she was right that she could sue them. They can arrest her, that's their right to do so, but it'd be false arrest and grounds for a lawsuit.
>>539977945>EverQuestYou know a lot of people argue here about the exact year we peaked but I think the Everquest to WoW transition pretty much defines the exact tipping point
>>539977966Same common Law as the US.Certain parts are applicable today but driving a motorised vehicle with the necessary papers on a public highway is not one of them.This sovcit thing sounds great on paper but it doesn't work in reality, no matter what word salads covsits come up with.
>>539976716I hope Manny and Noodles are doing well. Last I heard the Saudis bombed a Christian militia in Mosul last week claiming they were aligned with hezbollah.
>>539978057Sure but until that has actually happened, no crime has been committed.Under common law there must be PROVABLE. harm, loss or injury for a crime to have been committed.Does driving my car on the road harm anyone?NO!Does driving my car on the road cause loss to anyone?NO!Does driving my car on the road cause injury to anyone?NO!So why is it a problem? This is essentially the argument.
>>539977742>There's no "right to ride a horse" eitherAnd like I said, you're responsible for the damage it causes to people and property. The "right to travel" effectively only covers your person, not any method you use to travel. And your right to travel doesn't allow you to trespass on anyone's land, so even that "right" is limited to travel that doesn't impede on the property or personal safety rights of others.
Thats a good question
>>539978016I came from SA in aught-four because lowtax banned me in a duck duck goose thread on fyad and it was too hard to get your mom to use her credit card on sketchy internet shit like the then brand new paypal We're all still here man.
>>539978016I'm not lying, see>>539978016 lol I'm glad you said that, I just mentioned it in another thread. Why are you such a needlessly contrarian faggot and probably the faggot I'm replying to over there for the same pedantic shit
>>539978182How wrong you are.Does a dine and dash actually HARM anyone?Same principle applies to the public highway if you are using it without correct paperwork, pay your dues or you can't use the facilities.
>>539977895>I bet you say things like "Assault weapons are a weapon of war and should be restricted, you don't need that to hunt".Never have, never will. You make poor assumptions. Try addressing what I actually say rather than making shit up, dumbass.
>>539978277Checked, based, abs redpilled. I was on SA too. Lol I graduated high school in 04 and went off to be an Infantry ZOGbot and posted on /b/ from Douchebagistan in 2005 and like 08 from Iraq when I had access to a computer lol. These kids don't understand how good it was back then either, when social media appeared it was over
>>539978218Yeah? If I go and damage some guy's propery while walking I'm also responsible for that am I not? That's already covered by law. It's called criminal damage.Until that happens though, I haven't committed a crime. Am I wrong?>And your right to travel doesn't allow you to trespass on anyone's landSame applies to that, no harm, loss or injury, no crime. That would be a civil tort at worst but then we go back to the same argument of admirality law.
>>539974319lol NO! You don’t have to talk at all. “Am I being detained, or am I free to go”“No?”“I have invoke my 5th amendment”But then again why are you getting pulled over?
A smart cop will not try to provoke a suspect. Don't use aggressive, accusatory language and don't sound angry, it may just upset the suspect or agitate him. Ideally he should be talked to gently and calmed down. For example, "Put it down" is better than "Drop the knife" and don't outright accuse the suspect of something, just talk in vague generalities.
>>539978218>personal safety rightsNot a thing
why is the right so threatened by the sight of a goy who isn't under control?
>>539978409>, I haven't committed a crime. Am I wrong?Driving without insurance IS a crime.And this is what sovcits try to avoid paying for You also need Licence, Tax and MOT.
>>539978571Except you don't need any of those unless it's for commercial purposes. The problem is that big government enforces it upon everyone anyway when they shouldn't be.
Sovereign citizens are based, and I'm tired of pretending they're not. The United States government has no moral authority.
>>539978565Jews do the same thing all the time arguing that what they are doing isn't technically against the law yet nobody seems to bat an eye to that.When a goy stands up for his rights suddenly that's a big problem?I'm sick of this shit, I know this isn't how we are meant to live.
>>539978401I remember you guys hanging out and posting funny war shit and the occasional timestamped corpse shot. I was in high-school taking one of the first ever photoshop classes, and you needed to know how to pirate and use photoshop to make anything that wasn't MS Paint dogshit garbage. The clone stamp tool was what GPT3 is today. No AI, no memegenerators. There was an intelligence bar just to make a meme.
>>539978609>Except you don't need any of those unless it's for commercial purposesBullshit . . .and you know it.
>>539978409>Until that happens though, I haven't committed a crime. Am I wrong?And property damage isn't the impetus for licensing and registration. The impetus is the fact that very quickly, you can go from not having committed a crime to injuring or killing literally dozens of people. And then all those people are going to say "why couldn't we have prevented this?" Same goes for destructive devices like explosives. The more destructive potential a device has, the more we want to prevent someone from wreaking havoc with it before the havoc happens. You can fuck up a couple people with a variety of everyday objects but not large numbers of people, so we don't regulate them. But motor vehicles are particularly efficient machines that can cause a lot of damage very quickly, and they also enable to user to flee justice. The risk is far higher than most other possessions, which is why they are treated differently.And remember: not all motor vehicles require all that shit. If you have a tractor you're using on your land, no cop is going to pull you over. But tractors are slower and less capable of wreaking massive damage. It's all a matter of scale.
>>539978544You don't have a right to violate others' right to life. Read the Constitution.
>>539978325>a civic is a heavy machine that could kill people! >here's your AR-10 and 2 boxes of ammo, sir. (assuming you disagree with restrictions). I'm willing to change my mind as I'm obviously pro 2a, but can you bridge that gap? Yes, women and niggers can't drive. There's a much easie fix for that than nanny-ing every free white man,
>>539978811We have a right to bear arms in the Constitution. We don't have a right to operate machinery in the Constitution. You're fucking retarded.
One other thing to know is that cops are often very territorial when it comes to their jurisdiction and do not like other departments getting involved in theirs. This is true whether it's state, county, or Feds.
>>539978736>and less capable of wreaking massive damageQuite the opposite with Tractors mate.No Private land is fine but as soon as you drive on a public highway, you agree to the terms and conditions for that privilege. And it IS a privilege NOT a right.
>>539978837A rifle is a machine. Does making a truck a Technical make it a weapon?
>>539978765That would imply it only covers life-threatening circumstances,
>>539974039sovcit niggers deserve every ass beating they get, call me a bootlicker I don't care
>>539978837And so your core axiom isn't preventing damage or death, but strict readings of the constitution. It doesn't actually matter to you if cars kill people.
>>539974423>How can she slap
>>539976716your goat fucker faggot flag needs to be washed and dried before you hang it on the walltl;dr nice creases, cock mongler
>>539978970You didn't read it at all dumbass. The flag being creased is intentional.
>>539978970Nah, from the looks of it he was on the line of being in on the operation. He's apparently one of the guys fighting alongside the Jihadists to topple Assad. (so the flag might've been issued to him)
>>539978867>Quite the opposite with Tractors mate.Most tractors can't go above 25 miles an hour. Average car can go over 100 miles per hour. Momentum is what dictates destructive power, as well as the ability to get away from those who try to hold you accountable.>as soon as you drive on a public highway, you agree to the terms and conditions for that privilege.I'm not disagreeing per se, but if I walk on that public highway, I didn't agree to shit, and those "public" roads have become barriers to accessing much of society.
>>539978736The problem with this is that goes against the principlse of common law. It's basically pre-crime.>You COULD commit a crime therefore we won't let you do that!Before 1920 you used to be allowed to walk into a gun shop here and buy a gun with no further questions asked. Guess who didn't like that?Driving without a license is more like breaking civil code rather than breaking the law, I think you know what I mean.
Why does the USA have shithole tier police corruption?
>>539974373Most cops don't know or care, and the ones that do, in some abstract way, were hired because they're 90IQ lol
>>539978875>A rifle is a machine.A rifle is a form of arms. Its status as a machine is irrelevant to my right to bear it. If a machine is a form of arms, I have the right to bear it. If a non-machine is a form of arms, I have the right to bear it.
>>539974039excising your rights is an admission of guilt, any badge nigger will put their boot up your ass, with the full support of the D.A., the state would rather take the matter to the supreme court than admit one of their badge niggers fucked up.
>>539979058I won't run around in circles over this because it's very rare but tractors can do a lot of damage if they want to, even at low speeds.
>>539979138Can we come to a compromise, then, that "machine" weapon restrictions are in whole unconstitutional?
>>539978912>And so your core axiom isn't preventing damage or death, but strict readings of the constitution.When we're talking about rights, yes, because the Constitution dictates those rights. You can talk about rights from a perspective of natural law or other definitions, but it's moot because they're unenforceable.>It doesn't actually matter to you if cars kill people.When did I say it did? I'm discussing law. You're all over the place.
I remember seeing a sovcit arrest video where it was in Florida and...>it was a trashy-looking couple from Washington with some kids,>they arrest the soilent hipster beard dude, and the cop asks his wife got any weapons in there?>she pulls out this kitchen knife and is like yeah this>the cop freaks and is like "Do not flash knives at me!"Ok, maybe she shouldn't have done that but I don't think it was reasonable to expect her to know exact police procedures around it. If she was actually threatening him with it it'd be different but I don't think she meant any ill intent, and there were 4 or so officers who all had guns so I doubt they'd have been in any danger anyway from one small woman with a knife. I doubt most European cops would have reacted in that panicky way.
>>539976869And a few sovereign citizens.
>>539976256When dealing with 30+ million niggers you basically have to turn your police into a paramilitary force
There's a difference between knowing your rights and being a complete knob. Sov Cits are almost always the latter. Most of them don't even cite proper law anyway, they're just obnoxious assholes.
>>539979059>Driving without a license is more like breaking civil code rather than breaking the law,But it is breaking the law and it is a crime.
>>539979249>When did I say it did?Exhibit A:>>539977688> it is a piece of heavy machinery that can easily injure or kill others).....) Remember that more people are killed by cars than guns in this country
>>539976989It's all a joke, but since they're not actually courts, no one is actually winning. It's definitely one of those "the only winning move is not to play" situations.
>>539979314It's not breaking the law, because as I've already mentioned, you have the right to travel without LET OR HINDRANCE, that means no fucking ZOGBOTS INTERFERING WITH YOUR TRAVELAre you incapable of understanding this very basic concept?
>>539979305They have that in Canada, it's called feather niggers and they're 70% of their prison population.
>>539974423>Your eyes look a little bloodshot anon. Step out of the vehicle and say your alphabet backwards while hopping in a straight line on one foot to the beat of "bad boys".
>>539974039Which one is armed?
>>539979333It's a situation where we may be in the right but they have the means to do what they want anyway. They're bullies.
>>539974039Sovereign citizens (of any color) are the right wing equivalent of lgbt pronoun activism. They think waving a piece of paper that *no one* recognizes means they the law of the land is somehow *magically* nullified when it comes to them personally. That's mental illness. The local authorized government gang is what it is what it is...you're lucky they dont shoot or stab you for bad behavior the way they did for eons before dash came. The paper you printed off the internet will never ever ever negate their ability to stop and ask you for your ID if you're being stupid in public.
>>539979380You are just running in circles playing with words you don't understand . . . . .typical SovCit shit . . .I have already explained it many times.> as soon as you drive a motorised vehicle on a public highway, you agree to the terms and conditions for that privilege.And it IS a privilege NOT a right. FFS
>>539979466So what you're saying is you should just initiate Pb to a raised relative velocity.
>>539979466I doubt these guys are actually "right wing" at all and not majorly Democrat voters from many of the videos.
>>539979458Sure, it's war, absolutely. And the cop is in some ways the most dangerous part of the machine since he's the dumbest and most heavily armed part of it. The funny thing is that not all judges know that they're fake, but some of them do lol. Cestui Que Vie is some crazy shit.
>>539979519Forgive me your majesty, do I have the right to breath the air too or is that a privilage you're going to revoke from me?
Why the fuck can your cops just search your car out of nowhere for whatever bullshit reason? Here that only happens in border control at most.
>>539979637Because the law dosen't matter anymore to Americans and you're a "sovereign citizen" apparently if you dare to question it.
>>539974039>where ya goingWith all due respect good officer I invoke my right to remain silent>Got any drugs or weapons?With all due respect good officer invoke my right to remain silent silent>mind if I take a look around your carWith all due respect officer I do not consent to a search I invoke my 4th amendment rights. I kindly remind the officer that he has taken and oath to the constitution both national and state and all right contained within.Get it on camera!or dash cam! Also if really try to side step your right hand them this> 18 U.S. Code § 242 - Deprivation of rights under color of lawWhoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or to different punishments, pains, or penalties, on account of such person being an alien, or by reason of his color, or race, than are prescribed for the punishment of citizens, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if bodily injury results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.
>>539979637Because the US has a huge series of internal borders, extremely loosely policed. Washington DC doesn't actually exist, except on paper. It has no basis outside of a kike larp. So the entirety of the legal, economic, and 'government' system is this excruciating series of larps wearing fake costumes, pretending to follow fake laws.
>>539979736Washingont D.C. is a corporation owned by the City of London
>>539976716>I'm a Catholic White boy from east Texas and I went because Muslims were slaughtering ChristiansShould have went to war against the jews who control the muslims, you'd save a lot more lives
>>539979059>that goes against the principlse of common law.That's a purely philosophical viewpoint, and I don't necessarily disagree with it. But I'm talking about actual law, because in the end, that is what dictates your liberty. And yes, kikes have manipulated that law in a lot of ways that have earned them a hole in the head and a hole in the ground, but I'm speaking from a practical standpoint.>Before 1920 you used to be allowed to walk into a gun shop here and buy a gun with no further questions asked. Guess who didn't like that?And all gun laws should be rolled back. 1934, 1968, 1986, etc. I also happen to believe it's possible that would happen. To be honest, the last 40 years of gun rights rulings are one of the biggest whitepills in the United States. In the 1980s, lawfully carrying a firearm was extremely difficult or impossible in most of the country. Now it's extremely easy almost everywhere.But again: that's because it's a Constitutional right. There is no Constitutional right to operate motor vehicles. Maybe there should be. But there isn't.>Driving without a license is more like breaking civil code rather than breaking the law, I think you know what I mean.As long as you haven't caused injury, yes, in theory. We're not in disagreement on that principle. Essentially, what I'm discussing is the reality of living in a world of niggers. And not just black ones. Niggers come in every color, get drunk or high, or are just stupid, reckless, or malicious, and then get behind the wheel of a car and then tons of people end up injured or killed. And they say they dindu nuffin. Then we have to pay to clean up the mess. So we agreed to make operating a motor vehicle complicated in order to trip up niggers before they did their damage.
Because the cops fuck your ass whenever they want.>just don't get arrested!It doesn't matter if you're doing anything illegal or not, if a cop feels like you're disrespect him (or her, even worse lol) then you will be charged with something. You can beat it in court of course, but the whole process is fucking ridiculous The main job of the police is to stop people from solving their own problems.
>>539979215Can, yes, but when a tractor is coming, you have a good chance of getting out of the way. When a car is coming at you at 60+ MPH, you have a shit chance of getting out of the way.
>>539979637>Why the fuck can your cops just search your car out of nowhere for whatever bullshit reason?The US has a million different jurisdictions all of which have widely varying laws.
>>539979810Correct. And corporations have no physical body. No territory, no borders, no citizens, no subjects. They just have agreements with other corporations.
>>539979843Right,but they were doing this before niggers you know, and we all know the solution is to simply ban niggers, how about some of that freedom of assocation?
>>539979724if ya want to spend 5 years of your life and half a million dollars fighting the state, you will probably win, but the badge nigger will have qualified immunity and won't be punished.
>>539979567>“On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.”
>>539974039It should work. Also remember these useful phrases:"I wasn't driving, I was traveling in my conveyance.""Licenses are only required for motor vehicles, which is a commercial term. My conveyance is not for hire.""I don't contract with the state of (state name)!""I need to speak to your supervisor, his supervisor, and the county sheriff!""I don't feel safe stepping out of my car, it's surrounded by men with guns trying to kidnap me!"This message brought to you by Safelite Auto GlassSAFELITE REPAIR, SAFELITE REPPACE™
>>539979850>or her, even worse lolDon't worry about women cops. A lot of people feel much more at ease around them because a woman is pretty non-menacing.
>>539979724I'm sure this is exactly why they don't like hiring police officers when their IQ is a little too high. There was a time when police officers were intelligent and respectable, they knew the law themselves. You could be 100% correct but officer jackboot isn't going to let you go because it hurts his ego.
>>539979235I haven't argued any weapons restrictions are constitutional, and I don't believe any are. I believe if you have the room to store a fighter jet, tank, and nuclear weapon, you should be able to do so, even though I think nuclear weapons are actually a psyop.
>>539979320That wasn't a declaration that the damage cars can do matters to me, but an explanation of why laws regarding car registration and operation exist.
>>539980006KEK
>>539979971>but the badge nigger will have qualified immunity and won't be punishedHe definitely can. At least he may get fired and banned from working in law enforcement or security in that state again. That happened to that cop who killed Christian Glass in Colorado.
What's stopping the cop from just smashing your window, taking your phone and saying you resisted arrest and that's why you had to be tased 12 times? If it's your word vs the officers and his department do you think you would win in a court case?
>>539979976Exactly same with cops watch the politicians they know how to use the 5th but most of average Americans don’t know the same applies to cops. They get you by what you say and set you up to incriminate yourself even the mob knew you don’t talk you shut up.
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>>539979333>It's definitely one of those "the only winning move is not to play" situations.Essentially impossible. You can move out to the most remote area of Russia or Canada and eventually, in all likelihood, armed faggots will show up and make demands. Technology has destroyed the concept of real freedom.
>>539974039Embarrassingly autistic and will 100% make things worse. The least they'll do is call backup and hassle you, if they have ANY reason at all to arrest you, you're going to jail. Just keep your hands visibly on the steering wheel unless instructed to do something and be polite, worked pretty fuckin well for me but I'm not a criminal.
>>539980030Girl cops are way more likely to start shooting because they're physically weak and unable to protect themselves.Look up the stats. Letting female be cops, firefighters, and soldiers is fucking absurd. May as well hire men to have children. It's not even sexism, nothing wrong with that though
>>539979810I think they turned in their charter some centuries ago.
>>539980138The lynchpin is if you resisted him violently. If you didn't do that and were nonviolent it's much easier to win, however that is usually lost on niggers, spics, and white trash.
>>539980138Absolutely nothing and I hate to think how bad it was before bodycams. can ytou imagine how many genuinely innocent people got killed by cops and nothing happened because they took the cops word for what happen.>he pulled a gun on me!
>>539980138A dash came live streaming to a server or remote computer that is not in your car that you can use latter in court.
>>539980035The key word there is officer, by which they mean officer in a corporation. It's like the great film "L'America" which shows kikes looting Albania in the 1990s by getting a 90 year old geriatric to sign as the officer of their corporation.They only had high IQ lawmen when they weren't officers. Your bobby with his club was higher IQ than the Freemason "officer constables," all by design. But really policing is a modern invention, only since the 1880s. In essence an alien power over us.
>>539980226Yes it was that bad. There are Youtube comment sections with retired boomer cops from the 80s and whatnot saying "back in the day before cameras we would have just cracked this dude's skull and left him by the roadside." Male cops used to sexually molest women suspects regularly back then and there was no way to prove it.
>>539974423For the same reason you don't die of suffocation every time you close the windows in your car.
>>539974039>get pulled over>friendly officer just wants to warn you to slow down>show officer hostile autistic note through the window>officer gets annoyed and puts the most expensive ticket he can thing of under your wiperNeedlessly ticking off people with power over you is kind of a dumb strategy in general.
>>539980035Get it on camera live streaming it to a remote location . Everyone should have cameras set up in their cars for personal legal witness. There recording you record them.
>>539980301That's true, we managed just fine before "police forces" came about. When you take a step back and look at it you realise that police forces were only made because Freemasonry wanted control over the enforcement of laws. They didn't want the local townspeople stringing up their buddies after they were found raping children, they wanted to take charge of that job, so that they could let all their lodgemates off.Then they begin colluding with their freemason judge pals to enforce bullshit.
>>539979953>but they were doing this before niggers you knowThere have always been niggers. It's just that, long ago, we agreed as a society to suppress them. And then jews came along and convinced people that was wrong to do, and over time, more and more people accepted this retarded viewpoint.>and we all know the solution is to simply ban niggers, how about some of that freedom of assocation?Outlawed 1964. Probably the most important law that needs to be overturned. Even more than unconstitutional gun laws. People here don't hate Johnson enough.
>>539980171But your example takes it to the heart of the matter:Every visit to a courtroom is strolling into a gunfight where you CHOSE to show up. Like mobsters, they're not eager to fight for the death every Tuesday afternoon. There are lots of fish in the sea.When pol realizes the sovereign citizens are right and we organize, the mafia kikes will melt away like smoke. I don't know how far away that day is. Two more weeks, I guess.
The Miami riots in 1980 happened when cops beat and killed a black motorcyclist at a stop. That used to happen a lot more often than some would like to think.
>>539974039Statism is a death cult and a weird form of Stockholm syndrome. Weirdest, most violent religion ever.
>>539980421There honestly isn't a lot of difference between me arguing that driving without a license isn't a crime and segregation not being a crime. Both of these are things we know are not crimes in spirit but we have been made to believe they are by (((guess who))).
Also, just two days ago Florida executed this guy James Duckett who was a cop that killed and raped an 11 year old girl in Mascotte in 1987. He was also suspected of two murders of older females.
>>539980035>I'm sure this is exactly why they don't like hiring police officers when their IQ is a little too high.This is one issue where I deviate from most here. There is a correlation with high IQ and overthinking things, which is a death sentence in a split-second life-threatening situation. I'm not saying high IQ people can't be well-trained, but average IQ dullards who are well-trained are untrammeled by considerations that higher IQ people might ponder in a critical moment. And I'm not arguing this from a perspective of officer safety, but from a perspective of their ability to act to preserve life. A lot of suicidal leftists who would let a nigger kill them out of fear of their self-defense being racist are technically high IQ, which is a reminder that IQ alone doesn't dictate wisdom.
>>539980469It gets very occult very fast, one of those rabbit holes that shoots right down to the Pillars of the Earth, and whoever erected them. The Vedas catalogue things like this.
>>539980627I notice that too, everyone is always trying to shift the blame, it's always "I'm just doing my job!", yet you chose to do that job out of your own free will, you could say "no" at any time.
>>539980696 >>539980627Thank you, anons. Cheers!
One thing that needs to be fixed is the paramount obsession with officer safety. Firefighters and military guys perfectly well know their job can lead to their injury or death and don't shy away from it. Cops seem to be the only exception to being so terrified that they could die.
>>539980627>It gets very occult very fastIndeed. It is quite wild.
>>539980621Your point is logical simply because what cops are, and the story about what cops are, are as far apart as can be imagined. They're not sheriffs, they're not investigators, they're not avengers or protectors or heroes. Maybe they're nothing at all, but they most closely resemble a gang of thugs large and organized enough that it's become an army. As you say, we think of armies as "unthinking."But this is unfair to warriors. Who do you want in your trench? The 80IQ guy or the 120IQ guy, assuming they both will have your back and know how to fight?
>>539980452>Every visit to a courtroom is strolling into a gunfight where you CHOSE to show up.And if you don't show up, they bring the gunfight to your house. Your existence is a constant die roll that someone will determine you have something they can exploit.>When pol realizes the sovereign citizens are right and we organizeSovereign citizens, by design, can't organize, because eventually disputes arise and they splinter. It's an innate feature of passionate independence. Remember that even the Founding Fathers were all members of various groups and clubs, all of which required them to surrender their independence to belong. The notion of independence is great but it's ultimately self-sabotaging when organization is attempted. Collectivists always have the advantage in that regard.
>>539980843No that's not it. Soldiers aren't the guys perpetually terrified of getting shot in the line of duty, they're fully expecting that it could happen. Also having too low IQ troops is not good either, that's what they did in Vietnam and you see how well that ended.
>>539974039They would bring a dog and signal it to bark, voiding your rights.
>>539980488So then we agree in principle. But I'm simply adopting more of a pragmatic viewpoint because, in the end, those laws we agree are illegitimate still will dictate how our lives play out. And I've known actual sovereign citizens whose lives got turned upside down when they resisted the law, and their lives were worse ever since. And because I do respect their philosophy and thus their morality, I don't want them to suffer, so I push a pragmatic viewpoint.
>>539976716I think you need a bowser fart. Right in your mouth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUcyRRqS8xk
>>539980971Yeah I think I was closer when I said that cops are nothing. It's kikes who polished this model after all, and they love Nothing as a concept. A brainless badge is closer to Nothing.
>>539980843>But this is unfair to warriors. Who do you want in your trench? The 80IQ guy or the 120IQ guy, assuming they both will have your back and know how to fight?When it's my mother or my sister or my wife or anyone I care about under threat from some nigger and I'm not there, I want the well-programmed robot whose reaction time saves them from death or injury and obliterates the nigger's existence.
>>539981094Most sovcits are actually amazingly dumb and not heroes or anything, let's not get carried away here.
>>539974039Cops can't read
>>539974774>If a nignog wants to play his mixtape too loud and smoke a blunt, they don't even wait for the next station, they stop the train and throw the nigger off in the wildernessi want to believe
>>539974039You have a right to remain silent, but cops have a right to think you're being suspicious and arrest you.So unless you wanna keep spending your time at the police station, it might be best to just cooperate.
>>539981175Why do your mother, sister and wife live around niggers? Are they coal burners or something?
>>539981247Intelligence is not innately superior to moral conviction. There are tons of highly intelligent people that are lowlife, corrupt, deceitful filth. And there are tons of people of intense courage and honor who are called stupid by those kinds of highly intelligent people. In fact, the intersection of high intelligence and high moral character is so rare as to be particularly admirable.
>>539974039These niggas riding around with a roll of tape baka
>>539981362>Why do your mother, sister and wife live around niggers?So I guess you're a fucking retard that's been living under a rock as the powers that be have transplanted shitskin savages into every white community around the world.
