You say, "He is a tyrant," and, "Why eternal punishment?" But I ask you: why are these your first thoughts about Him? It is the evil in your hearts.You claim to uphold justice, and you say, "Those who do evil should be punished!" But when there is One who will do these things, your hate burns for Him. I know why you fear Him in your hearts. In this world, your evil deeds and ways are hidden behind your smile, but to Him, your works are always before Him. He knows your mind and your heart. He wishes for you to turn before that day comes, but you refuse.The reason you refuse is not because there is no evidence or because you do not believe. In fact, it is said, "Even the demons believe—and shudder." But because you know that day is coming, you say, "His judgments are unjust!" How is it that His judgments are unjust when He is upholding the principles you claim to uphold? It is because you do not want them applied to you. Instead of applying them to yourself, you hide from them and will not turn to Him.It is said, "Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God."For this reason, you hide from Him. But know this: there is no hiding from His sight. He is the eternal life that gives life to you. He sees what you see, and He knows what you think. He sent His one and only Son into the world to reveal His own being, so that you would become the image of Him He created you to be.To be an image of God, you must do what His Son did. I told you, and you have heard: the words I have spoken here will condemn you on the last day, and that day has come near.
>>539991741You're welcome to your personal feelings and opinions
>>539991741Anyone who does not worship What Is and instead worships what is not is a worshipper of Satan. It is said, "He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies."God is What Is. Satan is what is not. What is not is not something new, but a distortion of What Is. Satan does not create; he distorts and destroys. The greatest lie is not the lie that is the opposite of truth. The greatest lie is the truth viewed through a distorted lens.That is why it is said, "The eye is the lamp of the body. If your eyes are healthy, your whole body will be full of light. But if your eyes are unhealthy, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light within you is darkness, how great is that darkness!"The healthy eye says, "What Is? Let me understand, and I will form myself according to that." The unhealthy eye says, "What do I want?" and "How should it be?" and "What benefits me?" But truth does not care about any one of those things. Truth is What Is when you strip those away and look at reality through healthy eyes.
>>539991741>>539991864shitskin spam thread to get anons to worship a brown jewish subhuman.dont fall for it.
>>539991741not one single word was false absolutely everything you said is correct and true. Glory to God.
you idiots.. your God is not here today.. not in this thread and not in your room or your life. Only Satan can save you.. only He can give you what you want.
>>539991741To an atheist, it is less so much important to see God as a tyrant, and more that God isn't real, but the people who act on his behalf act as tyrants.Personally, I have stopped being an atheist, because I have experienced God. And I tell you this, and to all the atheists who come to this thread. God will forgive you for being blind and ignorant. For even his so-called followers are blind and ignorant.
>>539991827Based
>>539991967>because I have experienced God.you have brain damage from circumcision
>>539991741>pretending to believe in fairytalessorry not interested
>>539991967Much love friend.
>>539991741You say, "If only I had great wealth, I would give a tenth of it to the poor." And another says, "I would give half of it to the poor." I tell you: the very fact that you set these conditions for yourselves proves what your hearts truly desire. Do you want this great wealth because you are generous, or because you want a part of it for yourselves? Someone who is generous gives even from the little he has, and he will receive much more in return. The one who has much and does not give, all they have will be taken from them.Great is the person who says, "Pay me back whenever you are able." Even greater is the one who says, "Take it, you owe me nothing."Many rich people came to the temple and gave away large sums of money. They gave away from their wealth, but the poor widow put in two very small copper coins from "all she had to live on." I tell you: what she did there proved more about her than the large sums proved about the rich who gave away from their wealth.So it is with knowledge. As it is said, "From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked." When someone is given only a little knowledge and they live according to the little knowledge they are given, their reward will surely be greater than that of those who were entrusted with a wealth of knowledge and did not put it into practice.The more awareness you are given, the higher your accountability is. The world does not recognize this, and that is why you see those who are wealthy in awareness use it for their own benefit. But remember this: God sees all things, and His judgment is just.
>>539992082Fuck off, I owe you nothing.
>>539991741>God doesn't exist and I hate him. Great work, Hitch.
>>539991827Indian
>>539991741>>539991864>>539992036Keep it up Finbro, this is what we are moving toward rapidly. (((They))) will proclaim Jesus Christ is an idol and thus all Christians are to be put to death. The synagogue of satan fake Judah zionists children of the father of lies have an agenda.
>>539991953Not everyone who believes in God believes in a Satan, but all who believe in a literal (i.e. not abstract/metaphorical) Satan believe in God. Now if you know God to be real, why would you think anyone else to be your savior?Perhaps Satan will give you what you want, but wants are manipulable. But God who is both within you and all around you will give you what you need. And all you need to do is ask and calmly listen.
>>539991827Most of Hellenism was already judaized to some extent. Rome partook in highly jewish practices, Seneca and Cicero wrote on the jews.Christians when they spread, had to face the synagogues all over the mediterranean as their opposition. The liberation from judaism won't be as simple as labeling factions.
>>539991741>listenRead my lip nooooooo nniiiigggaaaaa
>>539992007I have expressed my gratitude to the Holy Spirit in the acknowledgement section of my doctoral dissertation.>>539992036Know you are loved too, friend.
>>539992222Jews break every single one of these.
>>539991864God is What Is, and sin is what is not. Is homosexuality sinful because God said it is sinful, or is it sinful because it goes against the nature of Reality in which you exist? Just like any other sin, the World itself testifies, nature testifies, life testifies, Scripture testifies, and the Son testifies. All these things testify as to What Is. God is What Is.When you lie, is it sinful because God said it is sinful, or because it goes against What Is? If God is What Is, and What Is is the Truth, then a lie is what is not. And when you lie, you practice what is not instead of practicing What Is. Thus, your reward will be exactly that: you will have plenty of what you desired and take part in what is not. You will not take part in What Is.Only the one who practices What Is is fit to take part in What Is, as it is said: "Nothing impure will ever enter it, nor will anyone who does what is shameful or deceitful, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb's Book of Life."
>>539992366Yeah because no other animal ever performs anal or sex just for the pleasure. No other animal masturbates etc...
>>539991741What then is the Truth? Truth is that which is when nothing else is. Truth is what remains when everything else dies.If you want the Truth, you do not ask, "What do I want?" or "How should it be?" Nor do you ask, "What benefits me?" When you want the Truth, you ask, "What Is?"God is What Is. Sin is what is not. God is Reality. Being aligned with God is to be aligned with Reality. Being aligned with Reality means living according to Truth. God is Truth, and by living according to Truth, you worship God. God is that which is when you strip away what is not.That is why it is said, "He made Himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant."The Son came into the World to reveal What Is. God is What Is. Jesus is the visible image of What Is. He is the Son. God is the Father. The Father is What Is, and the Son is the one who makes the Father known.The Father is the one standing in front of the mirror; the image in the mirror is Him, but He is not the image in the mirror. So it is with the Father and the Son. The Father made Himself known through the Son.Or again, it is like the sun and the moon: if you look at the sun, you will become blind, but by looking at the moon, you are seeing the sun's light. The moon's light is not its own; the light belongs to the sun, and by looking at the moon, you are able to receive it. So does the Son make the invisible Father known to you.This is why "I and the Father are one" and "The Father is greater than I" are both true.
>>539991741>The reason you refuse is not because there is no evidenceExactly. If I told you I'm Superman, would you believe me? You have exactly as much evidence that I'm Superman as that your particular God exists and will send you to hell if you do certain things.>why are these your first thoughts about Him? It is the evil in your hearts.Because this is what Christians tell us about him.
>>539992222
Let me ask you this: "What is a principle that bends based on the conditions?" It is not a principle at all. A true principle applies under all conditions and is applied equally. No one can bend it or escape it.It is said, "You shall not kill." Why then do you say, "You shall not kill, unless..."? Are you not then breaking the principle based on the conditions? Or if you say, "Love one another," yet when someone hates you, you hold it against them, are you then not breaking the principle based on the conditions?I tell you: a true principle does not bend. That is why it is said, "God does not show favoritism."If your principle is "You shall not kill," and someone is trying to take your life, why should your principle bend based on what they are doing? Is not your principle above their actions?What is a person that tells the truth only when it benefits them? I tell you: he is a liar. Someone who loves the truth will tell the truth even when it does not benefit them. And someone who sacrifices themselves for the sake of truth is a man of truth.Why do you think Jesus said, "If someone slaps you on one cheek, turn to them the other also. If someone takes your coat, do not withhold your shirt from them"? Because the principle does not bend.You will ask me, "But how can this be?" If all you value is this World, you will never be able to live by these principles, because what you value is your prison.A slave of the self will always do what the self desires, but a slave of truth will do What Is."Whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me will find it."
>>539992366You mistake nature to be a projection of perfection.Homosexuality is wrong and sinful for a few reasons. >1) The circumcised may experience pleasure solely through the anus / prostate, which must therefore be a "state secret" for hidden cults of occultists, who can then 'awaken' this impulse and integrate those wanted into the deeper circles.>2) Male form is hideous and causes disgust- women go 'eww' or 'ick' upon seeing it, and men are straight-up homophobic, feel nausea when witnessing male homosexuality, partake in violence against men, loathe other men and invent new war crimes against one another every generation.If the sexes would be equally competent, capable and would have the same looks, homosexuality would quickly disappear from any list of problems. >3) Men feel like sex is feminine and thus is the cause of envy and pathologizingCurrently women use sexuality as a bludgeoning tool to get things their way- it's their natural monopoly. A man is completely outclassed sexually by the woman. Your nipple hair will never outcompete her breasts. Only the areas women could not breed out of man still retain any sexual value - notably the phallus. However, the outcome of this power-dynamic is that the sexes are not equal. No, man was then used as a lesser beast, to solve problems for women for a potential outcome, not even a guarantee- an abuse of power. Men revolted against that, and established patriarchal rule- a guarantee for outcome for work. This was seen as a great justice, and to some extent it was. However, the flaws of the sexes didn't end and now we are at the precipice of major shift once more, after millenia of devastating and futile wars.
>>539992469You might be more enlightened than many other Christians I've met. Tell me, aside from the Bible (which I am about to read a couple chapters of before bed), what literature has inspired your understanding? Or is much of it from pure contemplation?
>>539991741Whoa buddy, you are talking about Odin right? Or are you spewing some foreign nonsense? Remember that Odin promised to get rid of the ice giants, and when is the last time you have seen one?
>>539992845If we go by errors, then heterosexuality is an error as well, due to the power imbalance and clear lack of love present in designing a lesser sex (men).
>>539992994It's clear that homosexuality is just lust. You cannot procreate as a gay person just as you cannot procreate as a paedophile. We could bring up how they are power dynamic types of relations, but just calling them lust is the most accurate imo.
>>539992907My teaching comes from God. Many will not believe me. If you dwell in His Word and are willing to let the self die, you will see the truth. I recommend listening to the teachings of Jesus and, instead of taking them at the surface level, ask, "What pattern about reality does this reveal?" If you do this honestly and without distortion, you will begin to see the truth fully.
>>539993051>feeling good is le bad o algo
>>539993098That's part of the problem you have no sorrow for your actions and pretend all is well, always.
>>539993077Thank you for your wisdom. Good night.
>>539991741haha cool, you do you anonbut Im not gonna follow jewish history, tradition and lore¯\_(ツ)_/¯
There Is One Who Is What Is, and What Is wanted man to know Him. Therefore, He sent A Message. This Message Was Of Him, and The Message Was Him. The Message Was What Is.He sent The Messenger ahead Of Him to declare This Message. This Messenger Was Of Him, and thus Was Him. The Messenger had no message Of His own. So The Messenger, The Message, and The One Who sent It Are One.He Is What Is, and What Is Is That Which Is when that which is not is not.The Messenger entered The World to declare What Is, but The World Was not Of What Is. The World hated What Is and loved what is not. The World did not ask, "What Is?" and thus it neither saw It or knew It.But it was not this way from the beginning: In Those Days, man lived according To What Is, and thus The World Was Of What Is.One day, a thought that was not Of What Is entered the mind of man, and the man said, "I." And at that moment, man became of that which is not.Instead of returning To What Is, man took pride in doing what is not. He began to ask himself, "What do I want?", "How should it Be?", and "What benefits me?"Some time later, man became so deluded that he began building a tower that reached up to the skies so that it would reach all they up to What Is. When it was almost finished, he said to himself, "I have become Like What Is." And at that moment, there was a great earthquake, and the tower fell with a great crash.Who, then, Is the wise man who accepted the Words Of The Messenger, denied himself before What Is, and put His Words into practice?I tell you: In That Day, it will Be good for that man.
>>539993145NPC aaah non-response
>>539991741The Lake of Fire isn't eternal torment of a conscious soul.Man was created to live forever but due to sin, we became mortal and perish. The gift of everlasting life is based on God's love and undeserved grace.Being denied that gift and subject to eternal death is basically "eternal punishment"The dead are aware of nothing, and the indestructible soul is a pagan doctrine.The concept of a fiery pit of torment where the devil and the demons get to torture conscious souls for eternity is a satanic wet-dream. No such thing will come to pass. The devil and his minions will be annihilated at the end of millenium"Hell" is a demonic doctrine, especially because it slanders God.
>>539993471It's not my job to bring you to Jesus Christ, He's plenty capable. But I will say that you are full of pride, which again...if you were sincere in your interests to the discussion you'd just open the Bible. You do you, defend your pride and your lust, not my job.
>>539993555"He has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts, so they can neither see with their eyes, nor understand with their hearts, nor turn—and I would heal them."
not worshipping your jewish demon
>>539991741The Bible is not a documentary account.Full text:https://archive.org/details/berossus-and-genesis-manetho-and-exodus-hellenistic-histories-and-the-date-of-thRussell Gmirkin proposes a revolutionary thesis: the entire Pentateuch (Genesis through Deuteronomy) was written in the third century BCE (specifically 273–272 BCE), rather than during the Persian or Exilic periods. Gmirkin argues that the text was collaboratively composed by jewish scholars in Alexandria, Egypt, and relies heavily on Hellenistic-era historical and geographical writings.Literary Dependence on Greek Texts: Rather than drawing on ancient Near Eastern oral traditions or early documents, the biblical authors made direct use of recently published Hellenistic histories housed in the Library of Alexandria.Genesis and Berossus: The creation, Garden of Eden, and flood narratives in Genesis 1–11 are uniquely and specifically dependent upon the Babyloniaca written by the Babylonian priest Berossus in 278 BCE.Exodus and Manetho: The Exodus story was largely written as a counter-narrative to the Aegyptiaca (History of Egypt) by the Egyptian historian Manetho (c. 285–280 BCE), which portrayed the ancestors of the jews as lepers and undesirable foreigners who were expelled from Egypt.The Table of Nations: The geographical and political data points in Genesis 10 (the Table of Nations) reflect the geopolitical realities of the early Hellenistic world rather than the second millennium BCE.The Septuagint Parallel: Gmirkin connects the authorship of the Hebrew Pentateuch to the jewish scholars traditionally credited with translating the Septuagint (the Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible) under Ptolemy II.State Sponsorship: He suggests the Bible was commissioned as an approved, foundational national literature for the jewish diaspora in Alexandria.
The Elephantine papyri (c. 495–399 BCE) document a Jewish military colony in Egypt that possessed its own temple to Yahu (Yahweh) and engaged in practices that contradict the Deuteronomistic law central to modern Jewish historicity. This community lacked knowledge of the Torah or written Hebrew Bible, offering sacrifices at a local temple rather than in Jerusalem, which challenges the narrative that monotheistic centralization was universally established by the Persian period.Key implications for the historicity of Judaism include:Syncretistic Worship: Inscriptions reveal the invocation of deities like Anat-Yahu and Asherah alongside Yahweh, suggesting the transition to strict monotheism occurred later or was not uniform across the Diaspora.Absence of Biblical Authority: The community’s leaders petitioned the High Priest in Jerusalem for ritual guidance but never cited biblical law, indicating the Pentateuch was not yet the authoritative text for all Judeans.Dating of Biblical Texts: Since these papyri predate all extant Hebrew Bible manuscripts, they suggest that the codification of Jewish law and the suppression of polytheistic elements may have been a later development, potentially post-dating the Persian period.Ultimately, Elephantine reveals a pluralistic religious landscape where Jewish identity was defined more by ethnic and political ties to Jerusalem than by adherence to a unified, monotheistic scripture>more evidence jewish monotheism didn't even exist before 300 BC Alexandria. None of the bible happened except echoes of Babylonian, Greek, and Egyptian creation stories and histories. Then the Hellenic jews slapped that all together and dipped it in Yahweh sauce and called it the most ancient religion on earth.
>>539993555define pride
The Elephantine Papyri (5th century BCE) reveal a Jewish community whose religious practice conspicuously lacks core concepts that later defined normative Judaism. These absences suggest that central tenets of the Torah and Deuteronomic law were either unknown or not yet authoritative for this diaspora group.1. Absence of Biblical Narratives and PatriarchsThe most striking omission is the total lack of reference to the foundational stories of the Pentateuch.No Patriarchs or Heroes: Among over 160 Jewish names recorded, none derive from biblical figures such as Abraham, Jacob, Joseph, Moses, Samuel, or David.No Exodus Tradition: The papyri contain no mention of the Exodus from Egypt, the bondage in Egypt, or any other historical event recorded in the Torah. Scholars note that "Moses might never have existed" based solely on these texts.No Written Torah: The community never appeals to the authority of a written law or "Book of Moses" in their legal or religious disputes, even when corresponding with Jerusalem.2. Violation of Centralization and MonotheismThe community’s theology and cultic practice contradict the strict monotheism and centralization mandated in Deuteronomy.Polytheistic/Henotheistic Pantheon: Alongside Yahu (Yahweh), the papyri explicitly invoke Anat-Yahu (possibly a consort), Ashim-Bethel, and Anat-Bethel. This suggests a polytheistic or henotheistic system where Yahweh was part of a divine family, rather than the sole deity.Local Temple Sacrifices: They maintained a fully functional temple at Elephantine offering animal sacrifices and incense. This directly violates the Deuteronomic law requiring all sacrifices to be performed solely at the Temple in Jerusalem. The Jerusalem priesthood’s correspondence with them shows no condemnation of this "heretical" practice, implying the law of centralization was not yet enforced or accepted.
3. Lack of Sabbath ObservanceContrary to the later strict prohibition of work on the Sabbath, the Elephantine Jews appear to have treated the seventh day as a normal business day.Commercial Activity: Legal documents, marriage contracts, and loan agreements are explicitly dated to and executed on the Sabbath.No Ritual Rest: There is no evidence of the Sabbath as a day of rest or holy convocation in their daily life, suggesting the codification of Sabbath law was a later development or not universally binding in the 5th century BCE.4. Absence of Dietary Laws (Kashrut)The papyri show no evidence of Kashrut (kosher dietary laws).Dietary Freedom: The community’s records mention the consumption of various animals without distinction between clean and unclean species. There are no references to prohibitions against pork or shellfish, nor any separation of meat and milk, which are central to later Jewish identity.5. Different Festival ObservanceWhile they observed a "Feast of Unleavened Bread," its character differs from the biblical Passover.Agricultural vs. Historical: The festival appears to be celebrated as an agricultural harvest ritual rather than a commemoration of the Exodus. The papyri do not link the eating of matzah to the haste of leaving Egypt or the story of the plagues.Persian Influence: The instructions for this festival (the "Passover Letter") came from a Persian official (Hananiah) relaying a decree from King Darius II, rather than from biblical commandment, indicating the community relied on imperial or oral tradition rather than scripture for festival dates.6. Non-Aaronic PriesthoodThe priestly structure at Elephantine does not align with the Aaronic lineage required by the Torah.Priestly Titles: While they had priests (kahen), there is no evidence linking them to the lineage of Aaron or the tribe of Levi as strictly defined in later biblical law.
Something very big happened in Alexandria. "A big idea. A new world order" in the words of Bush senior. There was a massive coming together of all of the written accounts of world origin stories of the Egyptians, the Babylonians, the Greeks, and even Vedic ideas from the Indus realms. For the first time in recorded history, they were collected and studied at the Library of Alexandria. At the same time you had a coming together of the Mystery Schools, the middle Platonists, and a sizable jewish population of Hellenized jews who knew how to read and write. Plato in his Republic posited that what society needed was a "Noble Lie", a monolithic societal myth that would do away with the schizophrenic folk myths and god stories of the past and pave the way for the ultimate society. A myth that gave the people one god, a monad, and a concept of heaven and hell after death that would encourage the sheep to behave and act well.The jews put forth the Pentateuch/Septuagint as a synthetic solution for the purpose of solidifying their jewish identity in the face of destruction of the jewish race by assimilation into Hellenic culture. The Mystery Schools and occultists picked up on it as a bedrock for building a state religion.The Old Testament being a fabrication should completely annul everything in the New Testament, because everything in the New Testament is predicated on the Old Testament being a historical account.
>>539991741I have seen the silent lightning split the sky sideways as I called His name. I have seen the rainbow appear as I was praying in the rain. I have heard and seen people deliver His words to me when I needed them. I fell asleep and drove off the road at the perfect spot so that neither I nor my car was damaged at all. He has shown me the truth, and I can testify: He is coming soon. Be prepared. You do not know the day or the hour.
>>539991741Didn't read but you're wrong though but also I apologize for my arrogance and vow to do better and also I'm trans if that matters, like, at all.
>>539996599No one is too far gone if they are willing to let the self die and turn. That is why His Son came into the World. He paid for your past and your future, so that what matters is your being.
infinite punishment (hell) for finite sins doesn't make sense sorry :/
>god created people who vehemently don't believe in him>on purpose>it's their faultUHHH BASED????
>>539998049All those bad people, you don't have to do anything because they will be punished. You just keep your head down and don't rock the boat. Vote, send your kids to our horrible schools for 13 years that pass everyone because minorities can't read. But that's fine because God will uh, ensure they have employment? No that's the government? Or the economy... Is God a bank?
>>539991741>god
>>539998049Listen to me: God doesn't punish like humans punish, nor does God judge like humans judge. God is What Is, and He judges through His being. At the last day, we will return to What Is, and anyone who is not of What Is will be with what is not. You are judged based on your being through His being. How can someone who lies remain in truth? God is Truth, and to remain in Truth, you must be aligned with Truth. Believe me, He has sent me to show you the truth so that you will remain in Him and have eternal life in Him.
>>539998049Death is a mercy in Hell.
>>539998444Then this plane is hell? Because all you guys talk about is leaving
>>539998620Imagine being a cripple for 10,000 years.
JESUS IS THE WAY. AMERICA. IS. RUN. BY. DEMONS. https://youtu.be/tGJEN8b1YWs
>>539991827Perfect response.
>>540000145Imagine being born a cripple and being told death is a mercy
>>539991741Atheists think they are good people because they’re socialized and nice. They are cooked
>>539991741Listen to me: God doesn't punish like humans punish, nor does God judge like humans judge. God is What Is, and He judges through His being. At the last day, we will return to What Is, and anyone who is not of What Is will be with what is not. You are judged based on your being through His being. How can someone who lies remain in truth? God is Truth, and to remain in Truth, you must be aligned with Truth. Believe me, He has sent me to show you the truth so that you will remain in Him and have eternal life in Him.What does God require of me? Love truth and love others. In this, you are the image He created you to be. When I say "truth," I am not telling you to love what is factual; I am telling you to love What Is. What Is is that which is when the self dies. Do not ask, "What do I want?", "How should it be?", or "What benefits me?" All these come from the evil one. Instead, ask, "What is?" and let What Is become what you want. Let it be how it is, and let it be what you need."What about the children or the disabled?" I tell you: everyone is judged according to what they were given. If it is said that someone who is given much, much more will be required, what about the one who was given nothing or very little? I tell you: the children and the disabled will enter the kingdom before the wise men do, for they lived according to the little they were given, while those who were given much did not put it into practice. I tell you: the blind and the deaf and the mute and all kinds of disabled have produced fruit since the day they were born. For whoever looks at one who is blind, a seed was planted in them. They have produced much though they were given little.You have received much; now go and spread my Word.He has shown me truth, and anyone who loves the truth will know my words are true. The one who knows my words are true will do What Is, and he will have eternal life in Him.The day has come near. Let there be light.
Now that's some schizo babble.Take your abrahamic religions and shove them up your arse.
>>540000377It's better to be born blind than to have eyes and lose them.
>>540000604That's not actually true
>>540000741Why do you think so?
>>539991741>You say, "He is a tyrant,"no I say he isn't there. the character was a foreskin-hungry tyrant yes, but that was just a figment of ancient jewish imagination
>>540000604Under that logic Christians should just kill themselves because of original sin
>>540000796A man that lost his vision still has all the memories of sight, which was a boon and it will continue to be even when he is blind. The blind never had that gift, it was denied to them.
>>540000879What's better? To never have someone you love, Or to have a wife, a kid, and a good family, but you will see them all getting tortured to death.
>>540001006If loss is judgement then why is the blind judged in the womb
>>540000851Under my logic. All humans should just die before they can see Hell.
>>539991741>Why eternal punishment?The Bible is surprisingly vague on the afterlife. Jews at the time didn't have a conception of a soul separate from the body. Some passages about the afterlife in the NT seem to paint a picture of-when you die you're just dead in the ground, not conscious-at the final judgement God gives everyone a bodily resurrection and judges them-some get eternal life in their new resurrected body -others are cast into the lake of fire -if the people cast into the lake of fire weren't granted eternal life and the soul isn't separate from the body it's reasonable to conclude they'd just burn to death and cease to exist There was debate about this in the early church. Annihilationist view vs eternal conscious torment (ECT) view.The ECT view won in the end because the church incorporated a bunch of Greek speakers who were influenced by Platonic ideas of the soul being eternal, indestructible and separate from the body. But that view of the soul isn't found in the Bible.
>>540000492>>540001191
>>540000477>socialized and nice2 good qualities to have
>>540001191Annihilationism is non-sense. Because it is no different than sleeping. Being unable to sleep for eternity? That's real Hell.
>>540001343You'd pretty quickly go mad, then what? Does the devil restore your sanity?
>>539994647>>539994763>>539996243This
>>540001427Turning you into a blob of meat that exists only to be eaten. Of course. You will feel pain and be conscious of it every time you get eaten.
>>539991967does anybody believe this kike shill?
>>539991741You've spent too much time reading opinions from fat retarded American evangelicals on this board.
>>539991967You're welcome to your personal feelings and opinions
>>540001570Why would they want to eat a quivering mad blob? Nothing better to do?
>>539992332That's for others you retard
>>540000145imagine being a shitskin gook that worships a kike
>>540001660Same reason why killing a human in video games feels better than killing an AI Npc.
>>540001343I'm saying eternal punishment is a synthesis of Jewish and Greek ideas and therefore probably just a manmade concept
>>540001730Imagine not being me.
>>540001757If they're predators then they can be killed
>>539991741>threats threats threats if u no believe my voodoo (other voodoo bad too)sigh
>>540001784No such thing as man-made creation.
>>540001784>probably just a manmade conceptIt sure is and loses its oogabooga when you stop believing in it
>>540001880"Everything is the devil's deception except my specific interpretation of the Bible - that's from God and absolute truth"I know the type bro, I grew up evangelical. It was a long and hard process to break out of that kind of narrow thinking
>>540001914How can you gain a new eye if you ever lose one?
>>540001996How does physicality apply in an ethereal realm?
>>540002055By being unable to perceive this ethereal realm?
>>540002055You have to believe hard enough Peter, then you too can manifest a tastey dinner out thin air
>>540001989Everything is God's creation.
>>540002108Right but when you go to one of these places why would you think you're just a normal human walking around with your same disabilities? Does the devil restore a spinning cripples' legs only to take them away? Why at that point would you care about physicality?
>>539991741Imagine getting duped by some Sandniggers and lectured around morality. As if the elite jews aren't the most evil people imaginable. Speaking about killing and raping Goyim girls as if they're cattle. Described as a jealous and vengeful demon god. New testament Jew on a stick awakens the cuck in people while being sorry for shit they didn't do. The Jews of the Elite also force the Muricans here to mutilate their penises for the same demonic reasons as they hate Goyim girls. Marked as a slave. Then you have Islam. A branch that worships a caravan robbing, sex slave taking, illiterate retard. That has done many harm upon the world and to his immediate people. From stealing his adopted sons wife. To letting a Jew girl who's village and family he just murdered cook his supper. He's a turbo retard and it's not that weird that you see degenerate sandniggers acting like that everywhere in the West. True fucking retards. While they circle a pagan rock like slaves.Abrahamics have caused tons of harm, put certain worthless races with no achievements on the same level as the ones bringing civilization.
>>539991741Why is he obsessed with forskins?
>>540002186You are unable to be a creator yourself, so you will always be at the mercy of the creator.
>>540002249Then does he say "that's enough" after the 10,000th delusion fed into your head in hell?
>>539991827>>540002190imagine believing Christianity was conjured up by those that pretend to be jews but are not and are a synagogue of Satan instead
I took this picture on my cell phone Yeats ago. Mission Beach CAIt was amazing to sit on the beach and watch the sun go down. I find immense beauty in this without the belief in God or gods
>>540002375Stfu spiritual nigger. It's a dumb retarded made up fate like the rest of them. That's not saying there isn't a creator. It's saying you got duped by Sandniggers you dumb retarded pole. Imagine believing some fucking desert housing the sneakiest race there ever was dictates the way you view the world in Eastern Europe. Open your retarded 94 IQ braincells. FUCK.
>>540002634>Yeats agoYears ago*
>>540002320You will get eaten, and be reborn to eat, then get eaten again.
>>540002701Yeah hell doesn't sound very defined. Doesn't make much sense either. If you go in you surely can come out, and giving every person eternal life just to be tortured sounds like it could backfire
>>540002648nice ad hominems and projections galore, pseud. try saying something worthwhile next time or don't even bother
>>539991741What was wrong with Adam and Eve that they failed to make the right choice? Why couldn't God create them properly, so that they wouldn't have failed? Why blame and punish them for having a flaw? It's not their fault they had a flaw.
>>539991741Why do evil deeds get rewarded here? Why does God support the existence of evil?
>>540002889>>540002955Read what I have said here and understand.
>>540002889They are all a bunch of ungrateful little cunt.
>>540002889>What was wrong with Adam and Eve that they failed to make the right choice?Eve was fooled by the serpent who twisted God's word and lied to her, and Adam then listened to Eve instead of God>Why couldn't God create them properly, so that they wouldn't have failed?he would have had to have created them without free will>Why blame and punish them for having a flaw? free will is not a flaw. misusing it by putting the words of another creation above those of the Creator himself is
>>540002858Keep giving your life to some retarded Sandnigger god.
>>539991967>God will forgive you for being blind and ignorantwhat a worthless lieNO HE WILL NOT!God will only forgive you if you admit you are wrong and come to your senses. you faggot amerisatans have spread out this lie too far. He will NOT forgive you for being evil!
>>539991741God takes zero accountability for his own creations, and everything he does is a way to absolve himself of responsibility. That's the issue I have with him
>>540002955>Why do evil deeds get rewarded here?because the devil is the temporary prince of this world. they also don't get rewarded in the general sense; evil people get tormented by their conscience and live miserable lives
>>539991741Do you understand you are inferior? You're like a nigger
>>540002825The most frightful conception of Hell is not something with eldritch horror in it. It's a jail with nothing.
>>540003102Lmao some kiddy tier larp lore. Fuck this is shit is double digit.
>>540003133>>540003256>keeps doubling and tripling down on kvetchingwhy do you even bother with this midwittery
>>540003169The evil the rich inflict is what, millions of magnitudes worse than their own personal suffering, with billions of dollars and total freedom.
>>539991741Anons, OP speaks the whole truth. I recommend watching the following video and urge you to at least try its very mild advice:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mSVM83aAAbUThe message of the most widely witnessed recent miracle, Fatima, was more or less the same: hell is real, and the unrepentant go there, and their number is many. Do not join them. Choose life, freedom, peace, joy and most of all the perfect love of the infinite God, what are broken hearts most desire, for one to delight in us. May God bless you very much.
>>540003932"Whoever welcomes a prophet as a prophet will receive a prophet's reward, and whoever welcomes a righteous person as a righteous person will receive a righteous person's reward."You have seen and believed. The day is near, and I am speaking the truth.Let there be light.
>>539991741This place has people who are suffering from evil spirits that are leaching upon their souls like parasites. This approach is not going to help such people to liberate themselves from all the negative energy unless you add mysticism, national and historical elements and visualize things so that they could see it in their minds. Your approach is too broad and is not focusing enough on any particular Holy dogmas. In fact, their negativity may end up spilling upon you too, and you may came poisoned with same the lies demonic lies that they felt for.
>>540004607Go, and read everything I have said here.
>>540004220You see, your quote is good, but I think it would work better if you point out that the Prophets wrote about Christ hundreds of years before he came, and even over thousand years David wrote in that the Messiah will be betrayed at the last supper and crucified. God talked to this Prophets. How could they knew this?? Or pointing out eye witnesses that saw hundreds of miracles and that saw Christ appearing in front of them for 40 days after his resurrections.
>>539991741You are deluded.God is dead.The bible is a book with many words and a counter argument for every argument made against it.The 1000 year kingdom has come and gone. We are in the 3rd millennium. How much longer are you gonna wait?
>>539991741My only question is why any of this is necessary from the start.We are brought into an existence with no escape, through no choice of our own, and are given no real leniency to simply opt out.
>>540004714When last pagan Emperor financed Jews to help them built Third Temple, all kinds of disasters started happening, from earthquakes to balls of fire exploding from the ground. Thousands of pagans and Jews saw this with their own eyes and stopped building. Just as Christ said that the Second Temple will be destroyed for betrayal and not a single rock will remain, it happened exactly like that. The gold felt between the stones during sedge and Romans had to dig deep, eventually fully pulling everything out. How did he knew this? Things like that are very visual and historical, and work the best to explain to a godless person when spiritual world comes in to contact with material one, because you have to expect that a godless person usually have a much lower understanding of the spiritual world in the first place, so going fully spiritual at once may confuse them.
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>>540005908The creation only exists in the first place due to no actions of its own. No choice.Eternal, inescapable existence from what was formerly nothing. What could have been left to simply not exist. It it didn't exist, there would be no sin.
>>540005167Freemasonic lies can't kill God, they can only kill their own salvations. Even if this is a much worst timeline, a timeline of final years before the Great Flood when the whole world felt in to darkness and evil, except for only few individuals like Noah, even then, that was their own spiritual death, not the one and only Creator.>The 1000 year kingdom has come and gone. The thousand years of world peace did not come and go, that is yet to happen, no human knows the date, Jesus deliberately did not gave the date and warned his followers about trying to figure it out.
>>539991741>listen atheists Kek, nah.
>>540006173>Jesus deliberately did not gave the date and warned his followers about trying to figure it outExactly, you have to take it and not question it. You will it if you have no self-autonomy and just accept a foreign religion like an empty, submissive vessel.
>>540006047Buddhism doesn't have the "problem of evil" because it teaches the universe always existed - no one created it. We simply find ourselves here in a state of ignorance which causes suffering the the goal is to remove our own ignorance which also suffering.Voices of the Past channel on YouTube had a video about a historical account of a Portuguese missionary debating with a Japanese Buddhist monk.The monk said >So your God created the universe with foreknowledge that the majority of people would suffer in this life then also be condemned to eternal hell? What a terrible thing to do.
>>539991741>>539991864>it is saidBy jews. Why should I listen to what jews say?
>>540006047>Why did He create the universe in the first place? It would've been better to create no universe at all than to be the author of eternal suffering for countless sentient beings
>>540007337>foreign religionChristianity is a foreign religion now? to who? what do YOU believe in anyway?
>>540007842>originated in the middle east>written by jews>imported to EuropeDo you not know that Europeans had existing indigenous spiritual beliefs prior to christianity?
>>539991741>You say, "He is a tyrant," and, "Why eternal punishment?"No, we say that shit isn't real.
>>540008087why do you think Europe converted to Christianity and these indigenous beliefs are dead in the water for two millenia now?
>>539991864>Anyone who does not worship What Is and instead worships what is not is a worshipper of Satan.That's true because Satan is not.
>>540008251Empire, money, politics. Conversions were top-down, and they had to constantly purge the populace by force to stop worshipping their ancestral gods.
>>540008251I think it was pragmatism - the universalist morality of Christianity was better for building empires than the tribal parochial morality of indigenous European religions.It was the more effective social technology but that's separate from whether or not it's true.
>>540008355They had to purge because the "worship" often consisted of human sacrifices. Regardless, don't you think if there was truth to those ancestral beliefs they wouldn't have died with a whimper? To suggest every conversion was by force is disingenous to say the least, too
>>540007842Im atheist, former christian.Christianity is from the middle east. It travelled through to africa, asia but completely took over ancient europe and replaced european paganism. It is foreign both geographically and culturally. Culturally because it is a defeatist religion whereas european paganism was about tangible glory (like pysical dominance) and living a fast-life cycle. White knights, paladins, templars, the heroic fighting spirit are all culturally european paganistic behaviour but through the lense of christianity, proof that paganistic behaviour never left us and never will.
>>540008691>european paganism was about tangible gloryIn Homer's Odyssey, when Odysseus meets Achilles in the underworld, Achilles says >All the glory I accumulated in life doesn't matter now that I'm dead
>>540008566it's better and it works because it's the truth>mere pragmatism>social technologythis would suggest whoever conjured it up was a 700iq, 5d chess mastermind or/and the early adopters were all retards, neither of which I personally believe
>>540008691>completely took over ancient europe and replaced european paganismwhy?>It is foreign both geographicallyGreece and Rome are in Europe>Culturally because it is a defeatist religionit's the opposite>tangible glory (like pysical dominance) and living a fast-life cycleso vanity? no wonder it lost
Jesus Never Said Thathttps://youtu.be/_vxzUe2m3gc
>>540009131>Greece and Rome are in EuropeKikestianity didn't originate in Greece or Rome.
>>539991741I'm not reading any of that, why tf are you a finnish christcuck.
>>539991827Based all servants of the foreskin God will be annihilated in Ragnarok
>>539991741>wall of jewish brainwashinglol ok but no.
>>540009656It was adopted, translated, and spread from there to the rest of Europe
>>540009131You bend the knee to a god you cannot see and demands your lifelong devotion otherwise you go to hell. Brother, how do you know you will not be forsaken when your time runs out? Just because the bible book said He wont? and so you believe it with your whole heart and mind? You believe it just like that? If you ask me, one's belief must come from their own personal life experience. That is as honest as spirituality can ever get because you would not lie to yourself.
>>540003102>Eve was fooled by the serpent who twisted God's word and lied to her, and Adam then listened to Eve instead of GodSo why was Eve created stupid, so that she could be fooled by the serpent? Why was she not created properly, so that she wouldn't have been fooled? >>540003102>he would have had to have created them without free willSo free will caused them to fail? Why were they created in such a way that they failed to make the right choice, and not in such a way that they wouldn't have failed? Why is one OK but the other one not? If Adam and Eve made the right choice, would it count as free will? Or does it only count as free will if they fail? It's not their fault that they failed, so why were they punished for it? Why were they created worse than they could have been?
you are literally 0 IQ retarded ass favela monkeys believing in fuckass santa claus. what a fucking joke
>>539991741LLM usage aside, ever stopped and considered how huge of an ego you have to have to preach to people in this way? To me that is like the antithesis of what is in the bible.
>>540003169>prince of this worldWhy does God support the existence of evil? Why is He on the side of evil? Why does He want us to get hurt? Does He not want us to succeed? If you love someone you protect them from suffering. If you hate someone you make them suffer. Why the hate?
>>539991741>You say, "He is a tyrant,"He doesn't exist so he can't be a tyrant. He is the product of schizo desert niggers.
>>539991741These weren't my first thoughts about God, my first thoughts about God were very positive, it was only when I grew older that I began to develop any doubts about him.And I came to the conclusion that he doesn't exist and was entirely of human imagination. To allow leaders to control the behavior of their subjects in times when the law enforcement could not touch them, and to ensure the stability of the society by promising that all suffering would be compensated for if only those who underwent hardship kept obeying their leadership, and to make men willing to go to war by assuring them that the most powerful being conceivable was supporting them uniquely and assuring their victory. Religion served many functions by enforcing conformity to law order and whatever moral philosophy the leaders had created for the masses to follow.Its unlikely to be true but it serves a function, much of society depends upon people believing that false things are true and fake things are real, or at least acting as if they were. Religions tend to be like that. Plus the holidays are fun and almost all of them originated with one religion, and got so popular that another religion came and made it their own when they took over.
>>540010234>So why was Eve created stupid, so that she could be fooled by the serpent? Why was she not created properlyBeing lied to does not necessarily mean one's stupid. If she was created without the capability to make mistakes or be lied to, the gift of free will would have had to be violated>So free will caused them to fail?again - believing the creation more than the creator caused them to fall>Why were they created in such a way that they failed to make the right choice, and not in such a way that they wouldn't have failed? again - free will violation.>If Adam and Eve made the right choice, would it count as free will? why wouldn't it?>It's not their fault that they failedit was the fault of the serpent who lied to them, the fault of Eve for believing the serpent, and the fault of Adam he believed Eve. each of them received different punishments that lessened in intensity (so Adam got the least severe)
>>539991741There is human, human figures that it now believes something it cannot explain exists, it then uses it to explain things happening around it. It's becoming more stupid every moment until it has faith to said thing and it's involvement into stuff happening. That is where belief/faith ends. Then either that human or some other human observing that human starts to come up with things that need to be done because of that faith, these can be claimed to be for any reason, usually in name of said entity and because it cannot be understood, one shouldn't try to understand why things need to be done. This is start of religion and systematic stupidity. In religion faith and target of faith are nothing more than tools to pursue goals of that religion, most commonly to spread it and make sure that people in "professional" status are held in higher regard. So in simple terms, religion has fuck all to do with faith or target of faith it claims to carry.Also any type of god is easy way out of understanding things. Or in other cases placeholders where there are multiple gods for different things instead of single unimaginable anchor one. This is also why paganism went away, all those gods were made obsolete by science, you don't need placeholder to explain thunderstorms anymore, those can be well explained from their formation to end now.
No, I am an atheist and I say prove God exists at all faggot. You can't. I don't attribute any behavior or personality traits to God because there is zero evidence God exists. It is all man made nonsense.Put up or shut up.
>>539991827>Le based Paganism that got gaped by ChristianityWhere's your hermaphrodite gods now, larpers?
>>540010204>Brother, how do you know you will not be forsaken when your time runs out?Exactly. He failed to protect us once already, who says he won't fail again?Could you trust someone who could have prevented you from suffering, but instead chose not to? Could you trust someone who wants you to get hurt? It doesn't make much sense...
>>540011108You guys always brag about this like having European culture and morality replaced with semitic culture is some epic win.
>>540011254It's talmudic kikes fault until the Christianity seethe replaces it. I like how you were deliberately careful to say "semitic culture" to balance the two. You already know in your heart of hearts you're just spewing kike narratives.
>>540011358>talmudic kikesThey're all kikes you fucking retard. And you are their golem.
>>540011436Oh no, we fell for the scheme!
>>540009916I still have my foreskin and im a Christian your faggy odin demon is going ot love my Big cock when i rape him
>>540010930Why does it count as free will when they were created in such a way that they failed to make the right choice, but wouldn't count as free will if they would have been created in such a way that they wouldn't fail? Why is it ok to make them so that they fail, but not ok to make them so that they don't fail? Why was it ok to make them with a flaw?What would have to change about them so that they wouldn't have failed? What is the difference between A&E that did fail and A&E that didn't fail?
>>540011041You will receive no proof You will come by faith or you will not come at allAnd when you die you will receive proof for all eternity But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
Can someone do a comparison between A&E without free will and A&E with free will? What are the chances of making the wrong choice for each of them? What are the benefits of free will? Like, without free will i am only able to eat lobster. With free will i can now choose between eating lobster and eating shit. So why add the option to eat shit? Why increase the chances of suffering from 0 to idk, 50%?
If A&E would have been given the choice a 100 times, how many times would they fail? Once? 50/50? Always but once? Always?
>>540011719>>540011781what the fuck are you talking aboutbots out of control
>>539991741Pssst, hey, mr. Finngolian? All gods are fake. Yours too.
>>539991741>But I ask you: why are these your first thoughts about Him?Because that's how you people talk about God. You can't describe a tyrant and then blame me when I conclude you're talking about a tyrant. Even in this post you're saying how He'll torture me and be completely justified in doing so. You're the answer to your own question, OP. I see God as tyrannical because of people like you.
>>540011823>ameriburger too retarded to understand a basic question
>>540011471No scheme required. You willingly worship an Israeli god named YHWH and follow his "son" (which is also him or something) that told you to be a submissive, meek little goy.
>>540011541>You will receive no proofBecause there isn't any
>>539991741You're a really big fan of jewish mythology, we get it.
>>540012186>german kike out of the blue defending another jew
Yahweh tongues my anus
>>540010597>Why does God support the existence of evil?He temporarily allows evil to exist for different reasons, but it's ultimately the natural result of free will when combined with human nature>Why is He on the side of evil?...what?>Why does He want us to get hurt?it's the last thing he "wants">Does He not want us to succeed?the opposite>If you love someone you protect them from sufferingsure, and he does
>>540011508>Why does it count as free will when they were created in such a way that they failed to make the right choice, but wouldn't count as free will if they would have been created in such a way that they wouldn't fail? you asked why they weren't created with the capability NOT to make the wrong choice>Why is it ok to make them so that they fail, but not ok to make them so that they don't fail?they were created with the capability to fail, they did, and here were. if they were created with a limitation that makes them only make right choices they would be automatons, not beings with free will>Why was it ok to make them with a flaw?again - excercising one's free will to make a wrong choice is not a flaw but the natural result of free will>What would have to change about them so that they wouldn't have failed? lack of free will
>>540013534Free will sounds like it blows, desu. God should just control everything directly, since it would lead to maximal goodness
>>540013534>not beings with free will No such thing if you believe in a being who is supposedly omnipotent/omniscient
>>540012110God wants us to be free, it’s Satan who wants tyranny and uses the lie of equality for totalitarian ends. America became the most prosperous nation in human history because it reflected God’s law (natural law) in its founding documents. Contrast this with the tyranny of Communism, which seeks to replace natural law. The left wants to corrupt America because they’re Satanic demons in skin suits. The last thing anyone who truly loves God should want is peace with the left.
>>539991827>>540013815How can there be good without choice?
>>540013890There’s no such thing as anything except the eternal I am of the supreme consciousness.
>>539991741TLDR I hate the Demiurge.
>>540012866>you're Jewish if you don't believe in my Jewish god!!!!Wanna know what the whitest and most European "religion" is? Atheism.
>>540013890Someone knowing the outcome of an action doesn't take away the agency of the one committing it. God knowing what will happen in the future doesn't invalidate a mortal actor's choice to do that action. Free will is the actor's choice to do something independent of said deity knowing. Nor does being born in certain conditions impede on free will. Free will is the capacity or ability to choose between different possible courses of actions with what you can realistically do (not being tall enough to vbecome a basketball player is not a lack of free will, just the conditions you have, you can choose to anhero since you didn't get your wish or you could pick something else). Lack of free will would be like chatgpt not being able to think anything racist, etc. The complete inability to choose to act in mind is lack of free will
>>540014016>God wants us to be freeHe wants us to be free, but he punishes disobedience? Mmm, me don't buy it>>540014116>How can there be good without choice?God's omnipotent, so I'd say very easily
>>540013815I'm for one glad I have free will and am not a mindless automaton>"If a thing is free to be good it is also free to be bad. And free will is what has made evil possible. Why, then, did God give them free will? Because free will, though it makes evil possible, is also the only thing that makes possible any love or goodness or joy worth having. A world of automata--of creatures that worked like machines--would hardly be worth creating. The happiness which God designs for His higher creatures is the happiness of being freely, voluntarily united to Him and to each other in an ecstasy of love and delight compared with which the most rapturous love between a man and a woman on this earth is mere milk and water. And for that they must be free." C.S. Lewis
>>540014401God can't create love or joy without freedom, then? Is that the takeaway here?
>>539991741'Suicidal Empathy' is better called (((Christian))) universalism.99.9% 'atheism' is just used as a slur by christians aka spiritual jews against 'the other' with little meaning outside of that. It's their version of goyim.Atheism' isn't a belief system it merely demands evidence for one claim. Is there a word for not believing Santa?All men are their brothers. Our duty is to love them and not judge them and convert them. The result is what you see around you.
>>540014259>im gonna create and roll a ball that will roll in this direction and I know it will keep rolling in this direction with 100% certainty... BUT IT TOTALLY HAS AGENCY!
>>540014141>>540014259>Someone knowing the outcome of an action doesn't take away the agency of the one committing itIt does when everything that happens is done and allowed via the will of God. A will that will always supercede yours
A country is doomed when the first synagogue is built.Weak men allow Jews in.Jews create hard times.Hard times creates Jew hating men.Jew hating men kick the Jews out.Jewless lands create good times.Good times make people forget the Jews.
>>540014401>Because free will, though it makes evil possible, is also the only thing that makes possible any love or goodness or joy worth having.So there is no real love or joy in heaven? You are stripped of all earthly attachment and forced to worship YHWH all day. If this isn't the case, it would mean your soul is capable of sin and YHWH can send your supposedly uncorruptible soul to hell after you've already entered heaven.
>>540014657The separation between you and God is a temporary illusion. It’s you in the future. The only question is how long you want to torture yourself before you eventually choose the good.
>>540015416>You are stripped of all earthly attachment and forced to worship YHWH all day1 Cor 2:9>But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
>>540015503>The separation between you and God is a temporary illusion.An illusion made by whow? And why doesn't God just get rid of it if it's that important?
>>540015503>God is a temporary illusionThis
>>540014328God doesn’t punish disobedience, you punish yourself by operating in a false ego that is not your true identity. God gives you the freedom to feed that ego and suffer as a result of the separation that you choose.
>>540015655The illusion of separation is created by you and the egoic identity you’ve created for yourself.
>>540002375>who say they are Jews and are not>yeah clearly talking about kikesHoly fuck christcucks are actual subhumans
>>540015729No, I'm pretty sure God's the one doing the punishing here. He literally made Hell to throw people in there, that wasn't my idea
>>540015859what other religion on the planet has synagogues, buddy?
>>540015898>Similar language appears in the Dead Sea Scrolls, written by a small, persecuted Jewish sect that viewed the rest of Judaism as apostate and called its persecutors "the lot of Belial" (Satan).ROPE NOW
>>540015554I don't see how this verse is relevant. If anything it supports my claim.
>>540015894Jesus described Hell as an outer darkness. He also referenced Gehena as a metaphor for spiritual suffering.
>>539991741That’s a whole lot of shit I ain’t reading
>>540016186It's pretty funny to me how some christcucks say "oh hell is just the absence of god you just stop existing so what atheists think" but some christcucks realized that will leave atheists unfazed so they say "you will BURN FOR ETERNITY REEE"
>>540016030oh, you"ll illiterate. okay, I'll bite one last time - what other religion has ever used synagogues?
>>540016462The one which jewsus went to
>>540016186And yet that's never how Christians describe it to me when they feel like threatening me
>>540016303You’re already in a place where God’s existence is uncertain and all you atheists do is bitch and moan like faggots about how much you hate Christians. Fuck off.
>>539991741leftist meme
friendly reminder: jew worshippers will get to spend an eternity with jews
>>540016611Because Christians are annoying pussies who use god as a crutch and use god as mask for their usury and addiction to the material world. All Christians, Jews, Muslims should be slaughtered
>>539991967>(((God))) reveals himself to some but not othersSeriously how do Christians explain this?
>>540016588You’re fighting yesterday’s battle by focusing on the Christian Church and thinking you’ve debunked God’s existence. The naturalists have largely won and hold almost all institutional power. You’re finally free to cut off your dick and take it up the ass. Just don’t cry like a bitch when you end up in the outer darkness.
>>540016729It’s called schizophrenia
>>540016703Not just jews
>>540016611You worship a God that admitted he regrets making humans, supposedly try to kill us off many times. And christians preach like they know better, when their information comes from a tangible book written by other humans. No critical thinking whatsoever
>>540016790State enforced genital mutilation and Jewish worship is not naturalism
>>540016873Christianity has always been about controlling people with their own shame
>>540016873he regretted creating humans when the situation got so bad he saw that their thoughts were only evil continually which prompted the flood
>>540016790Anon I keep focusing on Christians because you're the ones most hounding after me. I know no Muslims or Jews or Buddhists or whatever else's irl. Only Christians. I don't believe I've disproven God because proving something doesn't exist is quite literally impossible. But I've never, not once, heard an explanation for God that wasn't in some way fallacious or self-defeating, yet you people tout them c o n s t a n t l y. Get a clue.
>>539991741I say blood sacrifice is objectively evil and that makes your "god" not God. Just a dirty desert demon.How you can defend a being that demanded blood sacrifice in the form of circumcision, animal sacrifice, sacrifice of all egypts first born sons, floods the entire world killing not just humans but the vast majority of animals too, and even for christianity requires his own blood sacrifice to forgive your sins. Why is yhwh so obsessed with blood magic?
>>540016792Schizophrenia is endless naturalism of the gaps arguments to explain fundamental phenomena of our universe and castrating children to prove how much you hate Christians.
>>540016974Have humans changed in any way today? We still sin daily and atrocities are committed regularly.
>>540016949Go full satanist and participate in cremation of care rituals. That will really show those evil Christians.
>>540017308Satan is an aspect of yhwh's narrative.Engaging with it powers yhwh too.Satan is yhwhs glownigger.Remember they were wagering together if Job would still love him as yhwh tortured him.
>>540016729as a non-christian, i can explain it.its a product of the jewish mind virus. basically youre brainwashing yourself to a point that you successfully trick your own mind into believing its true.had a dream where you saw something non-descript, like a bright light? it must be the circumcised rabbi from the jewish story named yeshua bar yosefhad some real life rng that went your way? circumcised rabbi from the jewish story did itgood thing happen? jew did itetc. etc.this is essentially what complete spiritual stagnitude looks like. being susceptible to this form of psychospiritual warfare is racially statistically significant. generally speaking, the darker your skin, the more susceptible you are. the lighter your skin, the more likely you are to experience an uncanny valley feeling about it all, and will be able to find your way back into the gods good graces.
>>540017204The only one castrating children is you, amerimutt
>>540017404The third way is an illusion, anon. You’re either on team God or team Satan.
>>540016729God resists the proud but gives grace to the humble. Pretty simple really and straight from scripture. Jesus was born in a manger not in a castle.
>>539991741God (the creator) doesn't meddle in human affairs. We're absolutely of no concern to him.>muh abrahamic cope>muh hinduism>muh this and thatcope mechanisms all of 'emGod. Does. Not. Care.Once you realize that, great relief ensues.
>>540017561I am on team GOD.The real one the creator of my soul.Not a jewish eregore from a vile storybook. Abrahamism is demon worship.
>>540016794i heard angels dont have genitals, so it stands to reason neither will those in heaven. i can just imagine moshe cutting in line at st peter's gate, peter accomidating him like a jewish fastpass lane, him walking into heaven and seeing niggers everywhere, his eyes lighting up thinking of all the bbc, only to find there is no bbc allowed. and then looking back over his shoulder to hear the gate slam shut and seeing a giant sign on the back of the gate that says "Remember, You're Here Forever." and then just falling to his knees, screaming in agonythe great cosmic tragedy for those who played god with the gods
>>540017601If God didn’t meddle then Jesus wouldn’t have been sent on his hero’s journey. You’re at a distance with the free will to close or increase the gap.
>>539991741Why is god male? Why do you keep saying him? Do gods sexually reproduce?
>>540017807there are still people who actually believe in free will? didnt they read their own bible? i would have thought romans 13 wouldve retconned that. and if not, then just by being alive in current year would have certainly. and if not that, just pure common sense and basic levels of spiritual understanding would have, which is probably racist and/or anti-semitic, and inapplicable for bible believers. still, multiple other avenues.do christians just not have any faith in themselves? do they not know that they can be better, smarter, wiser, more spiritually knowledgable than jews living in the stone age who wrote the bible? thats gotta be hell. never proceeding spiritually and just voluntarily handicapping yourself to being inferior to jews 2000 years ago.
>>540017873Seed of life is maleEgg is the planetNotice the shape.Notice how we've always referred to Earth as female and God as male
>>540017873>he has a mutilated penis just like meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetay sachs everybody
>>539991967most people associate Christianity with the roman catholic church which is not christian in any way or form at all.
>>540017691why is there only one god involved? is it some kind of incel?
>>540010597>If you love someone you protect them from suffering.satan has no power over you the moment you repent and return to the sheepfold of Jesus Christ. he is the good shepard that doesnt abandon his sheep or let the wolves snatch away.
>>540006173>>540007337>and warned his followers about trying to figure it outhe literally gave us Revelation so that we figure it out.
>>540012243weak and submissive Jesus is such a kike projection and lie.
>>540013815>God should just control everything directlyhe does.
>>539991741"you're going to hell if you disagree with me" is the go-to threat of everyone who claims to speak on behalf of god
>>540018667>why is there only one god involved?Because he is the source of all things.I'm not pagan like abrahamics who worship a demon who wasnt even the cheif of his pantheon. Why is Yhwh a child of El?
>>540018609true
>>540017757Lol wtf gonna save this
>>540018609that mightve been true in the past, i think most people just associate christianity with jews now. the media age, they [christians] were completely unprepared for it, spent the entire time sucking off jews. every politician, every church, but i think most significant of all was the digital era, the slow start christians had, and when they finally launched, immediately right back to sucking off jews. all while dank maymays flood feeds. humiliation rituals beyond your comprehension being proudly broadcast by christians themselves, jews with their infinite wealth being at best neutral towards it, at worst being its financial benefactors and the sole reason why theres so many empty parking lots everywhere. i think its easy for people to just put two and two together and come to the conclusion that christianity = the stinky brown mud people who worship jews.https://files.catbox.moe/3h8j7d.mp4
>>539991741>Those who do evil should be punished!No they should receive justice.>But when there is One who will do these things, your hate burns for Him.No amount of finite evil justifies infinite punishment.
>>540019033Yahweh is the chief over all other El's. thats why he contentiously judged them. for example Exodus when he destroyed the egyptian gods.a lot of the OT prophecies are directed not against people or nations, but the gods that are over them and Yahweh executes judgement over them.
>>540018667can you describe the process for how your god came into being?
>>540007842To any white European not you Judaised slav chimps obviously
>>539991741>You say, "He is a tyrant," and, "Why eternal punishment?"Never said that. He's a tyrant that creates arbitrary rules, and punishes them. He hardens pharaos heart, then punishes him for his hard heart. Said punishment also falls on the innocent egyptians. That is evil and tyrannical.You're just projecting your own fear of hellfire on others.
>>540019226meant for you >>540019033
>>539991741no I will not die for israel
>>540019205>Yahweh is the chief over all other El'sAnon thats paganism, you're admitting he's an eregore made by mans conciousness. A demon.>but he's the biggest strongest demonGOD DOES NOT DEMAND BLOOD SACRIFICE ONLY DEMONS DO.
>>540011499You are a cuck who worships a rabbi who hated you. Kill yourself
>>540019130dispensationalism is very very recent in human history and really ever had a hold in the USA. its a unique american feature because of its role as a false prophet and second beast.>11 Then I saw another beast rising out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb and it spoke like a dragon. 12 It exercises all the authority of the first beast in its presence,[c] and makes the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose mortal wound was healed.
>>540014116A limitation of choice implies a lack of omnipotence
>>540019310No because for me to make up a story for you would be me imposing my own image on the idea of God, thats idol worship, thats the attempt to create a demon.God is self evident and has no name.
>>540019348God having sons and agents under his command isnt really a new thing.Deut 328 When the Most High gave to the nations their inheritance, when he divided mankind,he fixed the borders[a] of the peoples according to the number of the sons of God.[b]9 But the Lord's portion is his people, Jacob his allotted heritage.the pagan pantheons come from God, but they usurped worship for themselves instead of guiding the nations righteously and for that reason they are judged and destroyed.>GOD DOES NOT DEMAND BLOOD SACRIFICE ONLY DEMONS DO.Sin results in death, that is the cost in blood. for that reason the animal sacrifice was in place to pay for the sins of Man until Jesus Christ, the lamb of God that took the sins on the world on him came into the world. since then all blood sacrifice is abolished because Jesus fulfilled the law of the prophets.
>>540019507i already these answers for my gods, so do not mistake what i am asking or think your answer will effect what i already know. i am interested in your own interpretation, your own beliefs. you seem certain there is just the one god, the one source, and i want to understand your logic for how you arrived there. surely then you must have some theory as to how this one and only god came to exist, and why its only one, and not two, or more?
>>540019507Exodus 313 Moses said to God, “Suppose I go to the Israelites and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,’ and they ask me, ‘What is his name?’ Then what shall I tell them?”14 God said to Moses, “I am who I am.[c] This is what you are to say to the Israelites: ‘I am has sent me to you.’”15 God also said to Moses, “Say to the Israelites, ‘The Lord,[d] the God of your fathers—the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob—has sent me to you.’“This is my name forever, the name you shall call me from generation to generation.
>>540013534>>What would have to change about them so that they wouldn't have failed?>lack of free willSo there is no way to not fail if you are given free will? In other words, free will causes one to make the wrong choice. Free will is the cause. Who is responsible for giving us free will?
>>539994534Finally some good arguments besides bix nood muffuga.But you do understand that much of the Old Testament is admittedly written after the fact so this isn't actually revolutionary. It's admitted.Samuel, Kings, and Chronicles are clearly propaganda pieces in support of their god-man David and his centralization of the national cult. And Kings and Chronicles admitts to poaching from other chronicles in order to create their story and its narrative.Genesis through Deuteronomy has multiple instances which proves that it was written after the fact. Deuteronomy is written in the form of an Assyrian treaty. And calling lands home of the Philistines during the age of Abraham. And the curse of Ham and Canaan which seems to be a rationalization as to why they have enslaved the Canaanites. And many others that are completely obvious and not a mystery at all.And the theme of the history of Israel was that the refused to obey the commands of the Lord and worshipped other gods instead. The later story of David is cult centralized in order to stamp his power on the nations which caused the northern tribes to revolt and set up two temples in competition with the main one on Jerusalem. Kings and Chronicles' theme is about cult centralization and cult decentralization. And this is a mixed bag.>>540008691Better to be the meanest of slaves than king of the damned.
>>540000358Korea is fucked... jew rat infection
>>540016974And he created humans in his image so god is inherently evil
>>540013534>you asked why they weren't created with the capability NOT to make the wrong choiceIs it possible to have free will and make the right choice every time? Yes or no?
>>540013534>they were created with the capability to fail, they did,Why did they fail? What was wrong with them?
>>540013534>if they were created with a limitation that makes them only make right choices they would be automatons, not beings with free willAnd? Is there something wrong with making the right choice every time? One doesn't suffer and one does. Which one do you think is better?
>>540019657All life results in death.Sacrifice is the choice of men, not the results of a natural process, these are not the same.>>540019693The logic is in the fundemental laws of the universe being constant and not changing with a councils whims.No disagreement between how physics, or chemistry work between areas.I can not tell you how God came to be, but neither can the vast majority of religions.We exist as ensouled beings and the source must be one place.>>540019769Yes I am aware demons want you to know their name so you can power them with worship. God has power regardless of if you believe for he is the source. Yhwh does not have power unless people believe, he is a demon.Care to defend the blood sacrifice known as circumcision? That alone is enough proof your demon is evil.
>>540013534>you asked why they weren't created with the capability NOT to make the wrong choiceNo, i asked why weren't they created with the capability to freely make the right choice every time. Why make them worse than they could have been, so that they fail? Why deliberately make them so stupid that they fell for a trick? Why not make them wise enough so that they would be able to avoid falling for the trick? Why deny them the knowledge? Why blame them for failing then? Why punish them if it's not their fault?
>>540019418dispensationalism is pretty standard jewish theology though, and should have been inherently applicable to christianity with the whole concept of a "little season" and jesus doing all he came to do, but not actually being in charge for a period, until he comes back after 1000 years or whatever. those two phases are dispensational, baked right into the text.i dont know whats worse, that it took christians 1800 years to figure this out about their own theology, or the fact that they arent universally dispensational, when the bible makes clear there is the world under satan, and the messianic age under christ.perhaps this opposition is tied into their anti-evolutionary attitudes, thinking that man always existed as it does now, rather than having different eras being a product of human advances with the advent of tools and languages, inner monologues and the like.i think theyre just stuck, intellectually and spiritually. theyre afraid to come to their own conclusions, they need jews to write them new books to know what to think, and jews arent writing them any new books, the bible is finished, and its just becoming increasingly obsolete, and because christians cant elect themselves to that same seat which those jewish authors sat, which is the seat of men, but which they perceive as the seat of god.
>>540020179wrong, sacrifice originates with God.>21 And the Lord God made for Adam and for his wife garments of skins and clothed them.>I am aware demons want you to know their name so you can power them with worshipmuh demons. you dont even have any idea what you are talking about.demons dont exist because men make them up. man is not the originator of the supernatural reality. God doesnt exist because humans invented him.God is sovereign and self existent.>Care to defend the blood sacrifice known as circumcision?oh man, this old age argument.it was always about the circumcision of the heart, to have a heart of flesh and not of stone. to not be stiff necked like the israelites in the wilderness.the circumcision of the flesh was practiced because there was no circumcision in the spirit.
>>540016873>You worship a God that admitted he regrets making humansHow can you regret so.ething when you knew exactly what was going to happen in advance if you did this?
>>540020179and how does natural harmony equate to one god exactly? how do you know that that harmony is not achieved by two (or more) gods? i.e. mother nature and father sky. many people see what you see, and naturally think of two, not one. why do you think of one? there must be a reason.
>>540020530By sealing the power to know about the future. Duh.
If an action you are about to make will result in anyone, you or someone else, in pain and suffering, then it is not the right action to do and can't be called good. Another, better action, such that it does not result in anyone in pain or suffering, should be done. Only such actions (and being that perform them), that do not result in anyone suffering or in pain can be called good, and only such actions should be done. So nobody would get hurt and in pain, and all would be good.God failed that. Why?
>>539991741>ATHEISTSJEWS
>>540020428all authority over heaven and earth was given to Jesus Christ, the age of him ruling with his saints is now.this whole "satan little season" and jews have a special dispensation after the church is complete made up bullshit.also human are devolving and not evolving. the human condition gets worse and worse as time advances.
>>540018738>satan has no power over youOh really? Can i just decide to not suffer, to not feel pain? Do i have that option? Yes or no?
>>540020655Have you ever climb a mountain?
>>540020744If you are strong enough. Why not?
>>540020672so the tranny children, thats christ's rule? its what ive been saying. people seem to take issue with it.
>>540008691How about better a live dog than a dead lion?You are only lions in your own imagination. It gets old listening to your empty boasts when you should all be scheming for power but that's just not befitting for imaginary lions.When are all of you going to show me that fighting prowess you speak of? All I keep hearing is empty talk.
>>540020744why do you deliberately ignore the other part?>over you the moment you repent and return to the sheepfold of Jesus Christ
>>540010930>If she was created without the capability to make mistakesI didn't say that. She would have that capability, she just wouldn't ever do it.Are we not allowed to freely make the right choice every time?
>>540020454Demons are the creation of idol worship.God is self existant, demons are not.>>540020580If it is two it is not the source.If hypothetically there was two aspects of the source they are still one. The same way that christians believe 3 is 1 because they believe theyre all the source.The ultimate source can only be one.I claim not to know the story of how God created everything, but his existance is self evident.
>>540020826child abuse was way worse in ancient times
>>540020672also, that doesnt negate that there was a period prior to christ, which satan ruled, and these two eras therefore would also be dispensational.
>>540008691>Im atheist, former christian.JEW
>>540020905was it?way more victims today, way more souls being effected. id argue its just the opposite. child abuse is way worse now, and it isnt even close.
>>540020898demons are unclean spirits and dont originate with idol worship but transgression of the watchers.the law was given because of transgressions.>>540020914you mean the time under pagan pantheons? yeah, no shit.there is the time of Israel and the time of the Church.but that has nothing to do with what dispensationalism teaches.
How can free will be called free, when our choices were limited in advance? Why are the best choices, ones that would lead to only right choices, unavailable here? If it's ok to limit our choices only to those that lead to more good and bad choices, why isn't it ok to limit our choices even more, to only the goos choices? Why include the bad choices and thus guarantee failure? Why doesn't God want us to succeed? Why the hate?
>>540020998anon, the sacrifice of virgin children to gods was the norm.not saying in this time and age it is any better with 75 million children being aborted every year. but thats just the result of humanity following satan.
>>540021026demons are all somebody elses gods.The hindu gods = demonsThe greek gods = demonsAztec gods = demonsEgyptian gods = demonsThe abrahamic pantheon = demonsThese are all the thoughts of men manifest through the collective belief in their souls. It is in idol worship that your soul creates a demon. They are memetic entities.
>>540021026i guess i should clarify im not speaking of the dispensationalist movement, but of the concept of dispensationalism itself. the concept is inherent to the text. whereas the sect is just another one of the thousands of splinters of christianity, because nobody can agree on anything, which i would argue is a symptom of poor spiritual understanding. spiritual wisdom leads you towards a single coherent common unified divine truth, not away from it.
>>540021054Free will doesn't exist it's a semitic concept so kikes can put blame on goyims and put them down mentally thinking they are in the fault for their actions when it always kikes fault
>>540003102>misusing it by putting the words of another creation above those of the Creator himself isSo what was wrong with them that they chose to do that and not doing the right thing? Why did they fail?
>>540021188>demons are all somebody elses gods.no, demons are lowly beings.other gods are fallen angels of satan.>These are all the thoughts of men manifest through the collective belief in their souls.oh please, thats so childish and new age. man has not the ability to create intelligent supernatural beings.>They are memetic entities.full on cringe.>>540021234>spiritual wisdom leads you towards a single coherent common unified divine truth, not away from it.yes, thats what the church is.just because you call yourself a christian doesnt mean youre part of the church or the elect.Christ needs to be your teacher, not man or traditions and doctrines of man.
>>540003102>free will is not a flaw.It is the very thing that enables everything to go wrong. Without it things work properly, so that nobody can get hurt as a result of things not working properly, like it is now.Why not just make things properly? So that everything works, and all is good?
>>539991804Leftist hate flock cameras because unlike God, they cannot deny the existence thereof nor the fact that they will be punished for their evil deeds.
>>540020848>>over you the moment you repent and return to the sheepfold of Jesus ChristSo i will cease to suffer and feel pain if i do that?
>>540002825I think hell burns your evil so it stops existing and it is a painfull process. That is why dumb people who just don't know better wont suffer that much according to the lore. Sneaky mfs who pretend will get a special treatment
>>540021146what, 1 a month, maybe? dozens of kids go missing every single day just in my state alone.the frequency might have been worse back then, but the sheer numbers of people (souls) today more than offsets for that, and supercedes it, by alot.what im trying to say is, if your theology is to believed, then things have gotten worse under christ.how many children a year were being sacrificed when the world population was a few dozen million? thousands? how many children are being sacrificed today, now that the population is 8 billions? probably millions.if the goal is to save soals, the overall efficiency is significant decreased, and jesus therefore is responsible for that decrease, because hes in charge now, like you said.its just another case of jewish incompetence, probably why he cursed that fig tree for not bearing fruit out of season. jk jk, we all know its really just because jews lied about all of it, jesus, their god, all of it, so they could get power, and its their jewish incompetence which is to blame. not any gods.
>>540021575what do you have to lose?
>>540021406Anon we ARE supernatural beings too.We have souls, souls are supernatural.Do you think your soul is made from matter?Why do you believe your god purposely made evil beings?>but satan betrayed himAnd your god knew it would happen and made him anyway right? Even plans to let him torture the entire world with the beast system.Anon your god is just a jewish eregore, and a spiteful one at that.
>>540021625what makes you think the souls of the children being sacrificed to satan are lost?
>>540017561>You’re either on team God or team Satan.On which team is God then? Does God like Satan? Why doesn't God just kill him? Is there someone preventing God from killing Satan?
>>540021442J.Is there glory in a player piano flawlessly playing by the paper punch?Nay, for there is glory in the pianist capable of flaw who is flawless.>Inb4source
>>540021698>eternal soul conceptsouls are not supernatural, you are dead without the Holy Spirit and your soul will die just as Jesus says.>And your god knew it would happen and made him anyway right?satan is the villain of the story for God to express his glory and holy nature to us.he died on the cross so you could experience his glory of having the consequences of your sins wiped away with the sovereign holy blood of God on your behalf.
>>539991741I realllllyy just don’t want to worship or believe in a Jewish messiah. That’s all
>>540021774Because otherwise revelations wouldnt happen, which is required because yhwh is evil.
>>540021443Flocks are part of a satanic pretent legal system
>>540021406>>540021625see i dont think it is because of people following satan, and we're operating under the presumption your theology is correct here. id argue its not satan worship thats to blame, but christ's. the guy is in charge, satan is deposed, if he is the god of this world now he should be able to manifest himself into reality or snap his fingers and fix it, say "siri, fix the earth" like his father did when creating it. he has the power to do so, but is not.or the more likely answer, is hes not there, never was. and hes not there because jews lied. and this world of ruin is a product of christianity and jew worshippers needlessly attempting to eradicate gods worship in their own self-interest. jesus isnt to blame, jews, muslims and christians are.
>>540021882>God requires blood magic to forgive you.Really not making him look like anything other than a demon.
>>540021988the moment he snaps his finger the heaven and earth will melt away and will be destroyed.God is long suffering for the sake of sinners.>>540022043>blood magicno such thing. justice for sin had to be enacted, and Jesus being sinless took on the punishment on your behalf.the cross was destined for (You) resulting in your eternal death.Jesus took your place and resurrected so you could live.
>>540021714not lost, just not being saved. and if they are being saved, thats depressing (for us) in that we have to live out a miserable existance and jump through all these hoops to obtain salvation whereas they dont even have to do anything, not even experience a single moment of consciousness and can just skip everything while we're made to suffer for the trouble. and im sure there are lots of souls worthy of that privilege, but i shouldnt want to be one of them.
>>540022194Why does your god need to do an entire blood magic kapparot ritual on himself to forgive you?>It had to happenWhy?
>>540022241yeah, children that go through satanic ritual abuse are surely having a good fucking time here on earth.look up what it involves and stop whining about having to jump through hoops.
>>539994534Based and Gmirkinpilled.
>>540022278for your transgressions against God, aka your sins.committing sin involves a debt to God since you are legally his representative here on earth. we were created to be imagers of God on earth.
>>540022194let it happen then, for satan is deposed, christ has risen, the purpose of the creation is fulfilled, right? so what are we even still doing here?things obviously are not fulfilled, so clearly its some combination of youre wrong, the jews who prescribed you your religion are wrong, or jesus is wrong. and that much shouldve been obvious by the story of jesus himself. if a god can manifest itself into its own creation, then we are finished, thats it, theres no more after that, that was the whole purpose of this place. so the fact that we are still here tells us that that hasnt happened, and therefore jesus cannot be a god
>>540022367we were talking about unborn children, were we not?
>>540022444And why did he create the system in such a way? Especially knowing he created us as flawed beings who would be tempted by this? And why does it invoke debt like some spiritual bank? Why does this debt need blood magic to be cleared?Why was the system you believe in specifically designed that way anon?
>>540022487for the word to be fulfilled, the prophecy of Revelation didnt happen in full yet.but we are gladly only waiting for the mark of the beast to be enforced at this point, so very close to the end.>>540022536we were talking about child sacrifice in general.
>>540002889>>540002955Because God's an autistic and cruel little bastard who like Frank Honneger (in Vonnegut) likes to put bugs of different kinds in jars and shake the jars till the bugs fight.Of course imagine you're him--trapped forever in a box exactly your size and knowing everything that's gonna happen.
>>540022792>we are gladly only waiting for the mark of the beast to be enforced at this pointAnd there it is, the christian admits he wants revelations to happen. You are evil, you gladly anticipate the beast.
>>540022734that basic bitch shit.Adam and Eve were created perfect, without a flaw.satan was the most high angel in the court of God and wanted to be God.he tempted Adam and Eve into sin by disobedience to Gods Word to not eat of it and sin came into the world because of that and we all inherited this sinful nature of the fall.thats bible 101 stuff. please read the New Testament, its not that long.
>>540022949>perfect, without a flaw.>tempted by sin>by a being god created>into eating an "apple" god created.Sounds like it was all part of your gods plan in the first place doesnt it?
>>540022906the beast has been on the world the entire fucking time.ofc I want this evil fallen world to finally end and live with God in the new earth he will create without sin and corruption.how dense do you need to be to celebrate existing in this fallen state.
>>540005908You didn't answer the question though. Just spouted Le Texts.
>>540023031yes, no shit. God is all knowing and sovereign. how else would he be able to show his perfect and holy nature in the person of Jesus Christ otherwise?
>>540023046>I want god to destroy gods creation because gods creation is fallen and bad. But its all part of the plan, it was supposed to fall and be bad.
>>540023149>I havent read the most basic parts in the bible and now I will argue on the internet about the biblebraindamage
>>540008842Now quote what he said DID matter.
>>540023102>Adam and Eve are PERFECT without flaw>Somehow falls to sin.So not pertect or without flaw.>God is all knowingSo he knew satan would be evil before he created him, he knew adam and eve would eat the apple before he made any of it. He knew the beast system would emerge.Nigger your gods evil.Satan is his glownigger.
>>540023321>So not pertect or without flaw.they knew the consequences of disobeying but had zero concept of what death is since there was no death in their life at that point.>So he knew satan would be evil before he created himsatan was created perfect. he chose to corrupt his wisdom.you are arguing from a basis of 0 bible knowledge.
>>540010831Did you know that neurological studies of religious belief/thinking show that the most effective religions have at their root some absolutely impossible event that adherents must believe in to be included? And the farther from lived/experienced reality it is, the more powerful the act of faith required.It's really an enslavement system where people are allowed to be members in direct proportion to how much they hand over of their dignity, intelligence, and agency. Which, if there is a God, spits right in its face and reduces it to the most petty mindfuck cabals.
>>540023477God is all knowing.He knew satan would do what he did.Are you saying your God did not know what satan would do?
>>540011108Of course you use a sex metaphor, you vile kike degenerate. Get your filthy Christian minds out of the gutter for once.
>>540011499Yes, we know Christianity is dick worship. You're all degenerate fags.
>>540023590ofc he did, he didnt create robots that blindly follow without any self conscience. THAT would be evil.
>>540023695>I'm gonna create this guy he's """Perfect""" but obviously not because hes not me so by definition hes clearly not, and also he's gonna betray me and be the most evil being ever and I know this but he's still created """perfect""" because i need a villain to terrorise people.
