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Should i not fuck around with psychedelics if im already a anxious scared hypocandriac paranoid individual? I think it would be something to experience and maybe awaken something in me, but im also scared ill change forever into some schizo and become some psychosis ape.

Even on weed (which i do rarely) i can't truly "let go", makes me feel lack of control.
The only drug I use to cope is alcohol, which i abuse heavily.
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>>540018901
you should try sobriety. It fixed me.
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>>540018901
just do LSD for "religious" experience
alcohol is poison
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Ecstasy causes brain damage, and it isn't talked about because it destroys the part responsible for metacognition so people don't know what happened
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>>540018901

do a moderate-high dose of lemon teked shrooms
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>>540018901
>ill change forever into some schizo and become some psychosis ape.
That is what will happen to you. Stay away from that shit.
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>>540018901
A bad LSD trip seems terrible for you psychologically. I've only had them when I smoked weed while on LSD.
I'm the sort of person who (at least used to) feel anxiety and paranoia on weed.
I wouldn't put ecstasy in the psychedelic category. It doesn't make you trip, you just dump all your dopamine/serotonin. I don't recommend it either. It's fun, it feels incredible, but it's taking a pill that will do things in your brain that should be happening during meaningful parts of your life. Happiest moment should be something like a date with the love of your life, or your child's first steps. Not rolling around a dirty futon in a shitty apartment listening to music one night when you were 22. It also does who the fuck knows what to your brain.
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>>540018901
I'm a seasoned shaman, explorer of consciousness and appreciator of vibrations. You need to be in a good head space or extremely headstrong to benefit from it, so you probably shouldn't. I'm really headstrong, I've seen things that would break people, I've tripped with people who killed themselves soon after, I've seen men go mad, only the strong survive. Your choice. You need to do enough so reality melts, your ego dies, and you are born again. There's a reason the shaman was respected in the past. Normies can't handle it. They end up going mad. The shaman ends up wiser.
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>>540019398
"experts" said that
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>>540018901
Morning glory seeds get you high?
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>>540018901
If you cannot handle cannabis properly due to anxiety, do not take any of the mentioned psychoactives. I have friends with the same predisposition like you who tried, and it did not help them. Quite the opposite.

Personally, I am extremely stable and confident. I enjoy shrooms once a year, and have tried LSD, DMT, and many 2C-variants. None of them are as interesting as people claim.
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>>540018901
Absolutely not. Hallucinogens can fuck you up bad, especially if you are prone to anxiety. I know.
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>>540023785
yeah, its one of the base chemicals for LSD. was also used by ancient witches for spells. i tried it once, was largely unpleasant, although it did induce a feeling of flying while i was spazzing out on the floor. i saw visions of fractals and DNA strands
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>>540024182
Right, a good example is to think how you would react if you were covered in spiders (unless you're a weirdo that likes them), nearly everyone on their first trip ends up convinced they're covered in spiders at some point because they're not used to the visuals and everyone knows it's funny to tell them they are. Are you the type to freak out because you're covered in spiders or are you headstrong enough to know, despite the fact you're clearly covered in spiders, that the spiders aren't real, despite being covered in them, and ignore them or will your consciously to view them differently?

If you'd probably freak out because you're covered in spiders then stay the fuck away from hallucinogenics. The spiders are nothing and if you cant' handle that you're going to get fucked up.
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>>540024200
Intradasting
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>>540023196
>I've tripped with people who killed themselves soon after
Good job there, shaman!
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>>540024763
I was just trying to scare him, nobody has died under my watch. I'm a good shaman. Although fuckheads in extended circles have definitely roped after a trips but maybe they were going to anyway.
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>>540024986
>I'm a good shaman, you can trust me
Druid here, nobody trust this guy.
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>>540018901
Its not recreational the same way alcohol is. You have to set up and prepare for the experience. Calm private setting, with activities to do and somewhere to lay down . Maybe some relaxing music but id be careful with music
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Psychedelics turn you into an ultra goy. It's so easy to program you and make you think you're enlightened whilst experiencing the symptoms of schizophrenia
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>>540024628
I got the feeling of there being maggots in my body. Even though I consciously recognized that it wasn't real, and was likely just an enhanced perception of the blood pulsing through my veins, it still wasn't pleasant. That part didn't last for too long at least.

I went in looking for answers, and all I came out with was that I would not find them there, so it's hard for me to recommend even without getting fucked up. Psychedelic therapy might be different though.
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>>540018901
youre probably gonna have a very unpleasent time and constantly wish it was over while asking yourself wtf you even did it in the first place
best case scenario its so awful that baseline reality seems better in comparations and you feel that you improved by exposing yourself to something harsher
try phenibut or kratom depending on what part of the states you are they might be legal and they can help you a lot more with your issues and might help you deviate from alcohol dependence
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>>540018901
Do your research. Psychedelics can fuck you up big time. At the same time, they can erase addictions if you set your mind on it. I'm not kidding, that's why the FDA approved Ibogaine for the vets.
Do the research. Seriously. Alcohol is literally poison too. Lay off that shit.
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>>540025786
>>540024763
space fungus here, you are both morons
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>>540018901
Drink cough syrup, ascend the Mortal Plane
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I would avoid. If you are going to do any, have someone knowledgeable and supportive nearby, and supply of benzo etc in case you have a bad time.
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>>540018901
It could "ruin" your life by causing ego death making you lose interest in capital. With no capital you are punished with homelessness unless you have someone else to take care of your material needs. Your life would be easier not opening these doors, but drawing closer to spirtual enlightenment is very rewarding
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>>540018901
Don't do any drugs, friend. Drugs are samsara amplified, especially psychedelics. Your ordinary awareness is what you truly seek. May you be happy and free from suffering.
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>>540018901
for me it's amphetamine, meth and oxys
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>>540018901
Psychedelics will take all your anxiety away and make you feel great. 5 grams shrooms good start
>T. Living proof
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>>540018901
The paranoia weed gives you isn't during use, it's long after.
You have to understand that drugs alter the way your brain is firing, and if you alter it randomly, like pot, you get random, meaningless connections that increase subconscious confusion. Confusion leads to stress, and stress leads to chemicals that, when not used properly, create paranoia.

This is Long After you've spent time getting high on whatever you were doing.

The answer, no, don't do any drug if you can avoid it. Period.

Psychedelic promoters tell you that you're opening "up your senses" and cutting down on your thinking self, or some version of that. Basically, they're making you more animal. How the hell is that going to solve most of the problems you're having in life? What they actually do is make you more sensitive to inputs like sound and light, which makes it harder to be rational and competent.

The answer, no, don't do any drug if you can avoid it. Period.

Stop Sinning. This isn't about you and God (though I suggest you mend that too), it's about Sin being a destruction and harm to your physical creation. You are built to bond to your Family, your Spouse, and your Children.
If you are fucking without making a Spouse, you're bonding, and breaking bonds, and that is Instinctive Inherent harm to you, for instance. Above discourse on drugs? Another sin, a harm to your body, as Designed. Jesus did the work, just accept it.
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>>540019398
I took ecstasy with a lesbian friend of mine in college, and if I was more of a man I would have used that as an opportunity to fuck her straight. Worst case scenario, I fail, and she experiences lesbian bed death. No quantifiable loss.
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>>540018901
>anxious scared hypocandriac paranoid individual
>alcohol, which i abuse heavily

Maybe you should try to fix your life and take care of yourself instead of looking for some magic bullshit. But yeah adopting healthy habits is harder than just taking some drugs thinking you'll get some wisdom from being high (you wont)
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If every day you went outside and just relaxed smoked weed and made yourself a little garden and meditated instead of working and making money everyone around you would call you mentally ill and say you ruined your life and you are a loser because of drugs
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>>540030927
Yup. People say alot of shit. For instance, this faggot >>540030748
wrote a discourse on brain synapses and drug induced paranoia.
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>>540024986
>I'm a good shaman
and how are you determining this objectively?
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>>540030767
your mistake was not realizing there's no such thing as a "lesbian"
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>>540031088
Back then I probably thought women should be able to vote too.
I regret it immensely.
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>>540018901
Just micro dose shrooms. Everything else will fuck you hard. If you micro dose and make your way up (if you want) you will understand it much better. Also I did a Mike Tyson dose of shrooms once and I didn't drink for like 1 year. Shit was cash. Absolutely one of the memories I've ever had. Listen to the anons here. Ecstasy will carve out your brain of emotions. It happened to my half sister.
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>>540018901
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>>540018901
DMT isn't a capsule wtf?
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>>540030748
Honestly I think you can benefit from misfiring your brain. I was in a mental state of stagnation and it was causing a lot of issues, however I was so used to it that I hadn't really noticed it. I went through some extreme trips on several different kinds of drugs for like a year straight and while I did have schizo panic attacks and some seriously rough goes of it, I came out hyper aware of all kinds of shit I was just getting used to that were hurting me, mentally spiritually, physically etc.

I think if you're stuck in life and feel you have no purpose there's no harm in doing some shit like this. Now I know where I need to be heading sober because I had it force revealed to me.
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>>540018901
>feel lack of control

Are you in control? Were you ever? Will you ever be? These are questions you will ponder while on psychedelics.
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>>540018901
You should get fucked in the ass and fuck a dude
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>>540033967
Microdosing is gay but I guess see the appeal working up the nerves to a big one. I fucking love a 5g dose of shrooms. Definitely not for everyone. I cant stare up at ceiling fans because they turn into scary as fuck flowers, and then one time the walls splotchy pattern made me feel like there were eyes everywhere watching me. That was the same bad trip though. Good ones make you feel like youre tasting the stars drinking a peach wine or like youre melting into the ocean
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>>540036948
Also I wanted to have sex on them but even kissing a girl while tripping was hard. Too intense a feeling
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>>540018901
stick to a low dose
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>>540030573
this is basically true
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>>540036745
your experience tracks with mine 100%. That's exactly where I was and what I went through.

It seriously can't be exaggerated how much this stuff makes you aware of what's hurting you that gets packed away into the subconscious. it digs it all up and forces you to examine it.
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>>540018901
>already a anxious scared hypocandriac paranoid individual
It will help probably. Eat the shrooms.
Once you realize nothing here matters, you lose a lot of those feelings.
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>>540040324
This. I've never had any remotely bad trip. Either I'm different or most people who say that are lying. It just gives me an amazing body buzz, expand the mind, maybe see some stuff or communicate with spirits. Never had a bad experience. Last time I just spend 5 hours walking around the desert. Nobody around judging me or bothering me.
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Microdose LSD or shrooms for one
Macrodoses are not good for most people, since the majority of people have a consensus filter that is reddit tier no matter how they try to dunning kreuger their way out of it
You need to really examine why you are that way, its probably because of your upbringing
Psychadelics will bring everything out, it forces you to let go spiritually
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What is Datura and why is it the most dangerous thing? Supposed to be worse than PCP?



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