>AI would need to create profitable apps/technology worth $1.7 trillion over the next 7 years to pay back for data centers>AI being used to write emails for people not generating profit for companies, basically people making memes and emails isn't worth the massive money it takes to run a data center>Oracle massively invested in OpenAI, would need to make billions in profit to make money back, OpenAI losing billions>OpenAI and Anthropic not generating a profit, losing billions, delay going public IPOs>SPVs taking on massive amounts of debt to build unfinished data centers>SPVs (and debt) not on balance sheets, reminiscence of 2008 Mortgage crisis CDS (i.e. garbage debt/loans)>Blackwell chips inefficient, producing massive amounts of heat, rapidly depreciating asset>Softbank massively investing in OpenAI, too many eggs in one basket, massive Japanese company on Nikkei>Banks pulling back, stopping investmenthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PRYlWOQtQk
>>540028207will it erase all the fake printed money when it bursts?
OpenAi and Anthropic both posted huge earnings in their Q2 earnings.They aren't generating profit because they are spending the revenue on R&D and infrastructure build-out.The people fudding AI are almost always fund managers who hold short positions against AI.
>>540028427>when it burstsAI is by vast magnitude the largest financial scam in the history of human civilization, and the final cash grab prior to total implosion of the global debt market.
>>540028566>Q2 earningschecked, May we see them?
>>540028615What will happen to student debt?
>>540028666i meant q1https://finance.yahoo.com/markets/stocks/articles/anthropic-track-first-profitable-quarter-124217577.html
>>540028566They posted earnings because idiot companies jumped on the "next big thing" bandwagon. Now that the beancounters figured out that it's a staggering waste of money, at best, it'll drop like a rock.
The tech bros running all this can't be so stupid that they didn't know all this stuff. So what is the motivation here?Is it straightforward fraud and they're all moving to Argentina?Did the government already tell them that they'll cover it as long as they get the surveillance state for Chinese-style social credit scores?Does it just not matter because if they build their robot god petty things like debt will be wiped from reality?
>>540028207JUST
2 more weeks and it will burst
>>540029332Straightforward fraud at this point yes. Originally, some of them probably believed they could create enough value to eclipse the scam and thus be profitable (for themselves and everyone else too.)>>540028427If it produces no real results, then it's worthless. The technology is not even very good at pornography so far so...it's not looking good.
>>540028207the idea is to crush your competitors with debt and hope you are the one that survives to monopolize the market
>>540030724Seems like everything does the Walmart model now>March into market with buckets of venture capital>Run at a loss for years until all your competition is dead>Bump prices back up to worse than they were beforeUber/Lyft did it to taxis.
>>540028207No "we" are not in a bubble. The government will bail out the tech. companies to ensure establishment of the surveillance state. And your money will become more worthless.
>>540028207Lmao, people still think AI is to create a product. The datacenters are made so the gov can implement china style surveillance system.You will scan your face every 15 minutes whether you are terminally online or want to do groceries and you will be happy.
It being profitable or not is of secondary concern to its ability to be weaponizd to maintain a dystopian anarcho capitalist state
>>540028207>>AI would need to create profitable apps/technology worth $1.7 trillion over the next 7 yearsIt's a half a trillion dollar a year industry right now.
I think AI is dumb. I just want to make money in the stock market and secure generational wealth for my kids. So even though I invest in AI doesn't mean I support it or like it.
How much our our tax dollars will will be needed to bail them out?
>>540036136With the rate inflation is going a trillion dollars will just be a loaf of bread in 10 years. It will be easy to pay off the debt.
>>5400282071/3 of all expenses in AI is to steer the robot to not say: fuck niggersif they are in the red, they should start cutting irrelevant parts
>>540029332I think profit doesnt matter at this point. The jews want their beast system to enslave and genocide goyim and once they have it, them being in debt wont matter because nobody will be able to do anything about it.
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>>5400282071.7trillion is literally nothing. AI is going to produce 100 trillion in value over those 7 years
>>540028207AND PEOPLE THINK ALL THOSE BILLIONAIRES ARE GENIUSES. THOSE FUCKERS ONLY KNOW HOW TO RUG PULL PEOPLE. FUCKING SCAMMERS
>>540038573this /thread
>>540028207Good i hope indians suffer
>>540035277SOURCE
>>540038573SOURCE
>>540038507>3 months
I have a suspicion that the bubble is so big, that the stock market runs more on hype than reality, that it's not going to pop all at once but kind of deflate on one end while it keeps pumping up on the other, like a big wave.Housing is in a "bubble" too. Did your house REALLY double in value in the past ten years? Do we need twice as many houses all of a sudden?>>540029332Tech bros are smarter but investors aren't necessarily. The investors want to be the last one standing with "the dominant AI in the market" (if it exists it will be a ticket to print money). Everyone from Sam Altman to the two employees guarding the $2 biillion data center doesn't care about the bubble, they just care about the next paycheck.
>it must be profitable or the bubble bursts>profitas if a surveillance state is about profit
>>540028941I scrolled through that and saw no breakdown on the revenue. How much of their "earnings" are jewish money tricks, tax payer scams and investment theft? I will assume at least 70%.
>>540028207Click bait for tardofucksIt was never about making life easier for plebs.The AI data centers are the wunderwaffe of stock market services.Its not about the traditional stock market indicators now, its about enormous number crunching trends across all aspects of society at an individual, local, regional, and geopolitical level. The granular detail available now is mind boggling. But it takes massive AI computing power to make sense of it all.Lol, most people have phones now feeding real time data about their movements, purchases and expenses into central processing units. You think that sort of information cant be used to make future predictions? Lol, and that's just the tip of the iceberg. Weather patterns, shipping movements, information from insurance companies and banks, geopolitical indicators, social trends, satellite imagery analysis, the list goes on, all being crunched into binary code and shifted through by AI systems capable of reading the data in a blink of an eye, tying it all together, and then making predictions about prices, debt, supply, demand, and how markets will react.Reaching conclusions about what stocks to buy or sell, what futures to purchase, what bonds to dump, just a tiny fraction of a second earlier than everyone else, will give a decisive advantage worth trillions of dollars.I mean I know most of you are barely sentient semi literate inbred hicks with a breakfast cereal level of education, but what exactly is so fucking hard for you to understand about that?
>>540035277500 billion a year and yet no AI product is anywhere close to being profitable. Plus that 'industry' includes Nvidia selling GPUs ie not AI services or products
Less people with Black people eradicated
>>540039737I'm sorry anon, but one insider bit of information that is not published would raype this system immediately.You have akshually put forward the most retarded justification of this possible, as if we live in a free market economy. By and by, data science is old and you can see case studies (positive, negative, aggregate) on what it does/did for various businesses. It was very trendy at first on similar premises.
>>540028207The data center side of the grift is slowing down every day too. They knew that shit was going to run into massive pushback, which is why they always try to sneak them in and typically cut and run if they get too much heat before construction can begin. The cat is completely out of the bag now though, and everyone is hyper-vigilant about these scumfucks trying to drop one in their backyard.
Yes, it's a bubble.We all know it's a bubble.The only question is when it'll pop and what the collateral damage will be.>no saar AI is the greatest invention since the internet it's not bubble!The dotcom bubble popping didn't kill the internet either.
>>540039737What if all the learning of what to predict, the indicators of such, were wrong from the beginning? The models are attempting to make objective context out of subjectivity with what's described, so good luck
>>540039863>These newfangled "motorcars" will never replace mah horse!
>>540040394What is AI replacing? Humans? Even that low bar is years away. The point is you need humans working to earn a slave wage and buy your overpriced products.
>>540034979Being against AI is Boomer-coded
>>540028207>used to write emails for people not generating profit for companies, basically people making memes and emailsdont forget the softcore
>>540040599its only a popular opinion with young people, no need to be dishonest. its not like it needs you to lie for it
>>540028207Thanks god debt is not real
>>540040646this shit is so lobotomized and censored people are generating it from their own AI trained model, lol
>>540028207Allow AI porn and watch the money roll.Crazy all the big AI services don't have a potn tier.
>>540040836using the "big robot" and getting around its censorship adds an element of challenge, but if youre not into softcore it will absolutely not satisfy you desu. all these were made with the gee pee tee
>>540040926Yeah but like the other anon said, they are litteraly wasting more than half of their energy to block people from doing the only usefull thing they sell.This shit is really the peak of jewish society
>>540041013>wasting more than half of their energy to block people from doing the only usefull thing they sellhuh. I never thought of it like that. I guess you're right. even when it does show nipple or cunt it only does it by accident because all that expensive censorship failed anyway.
>>540028207A company that pays a dividend has no idea on what to spend it's money on.Tech companies famously did not pay dividends and instead sat on cash; They find something to spend it on. Nooo you can't just spend that money it's fake and is a bubble!
>>540028709Currency will become worthless so you'll have to use your ass to work of your loans i guess
>>540028207yeah, I cant take Ed Zitron anymore, he seems like a blowhard know-nothing, but talks a good game, and provides filler for needy channels. These pundits who spend all their time on different channels spewing their spiel mostly dont really know shit.
>>540028615>AI is by vast magnitude the largest financial scam in the history of human civilization,US has already spent more on AI infrastructure than was spent on the entire interstate highway system in the 50s and 60s in terms of % of GDP
>>540028207>AI would need to create profitable apps/technology worth $1.7 trillion over the next 7 years to pay back for data centersthe funding is literally 20 year terms you faggot retardthats why this is so bad, there is no bubble to pop, just consumer technology being traded for cloud and SaaS
>>540029332they know it will all collapse, but there will be one or two left standing, and they are panicked to be that one left standing, so they have to play this game, it is a weird musical chairs situation they must play
>>540043271>Money is completely devalued by the massive financial crisis>Comparatively even middling pasty nerd-ass is exponentially more valuable>Everyone will be fucking and sucking to pay for goods and servicesLadies and gentlemen, we have solved the problem of zoomers not fucking. Spend your worthless money now on lube and Marvin Gaye albums. Be the equivalent of an oligarch after the fall of the Soviet Union, but for sex.
>>540028207It's a winner take all race to AGI. These are just bloated poker players, every one of them going all in on the same 3/8 offsuit hand and hoping to hit something on the river.
>>540028207Why should they need to pay back the data centers? The government should do it. What's ridiculous is our government is so corrupt and ineffective basic infrastructure, like data centers, now have to be funded by the private sector.
>>540043606Ironically I think Elon is best placed to survive even if Grok sinks because he's tied it to SpaceX which government has no choice but to pay for space tech they can't into anymore. He's using Grok as a rocket scientist/engineer more than as a general intelligence/business tool.
>>540028207They need to let the coomers play. Pay for porn so they can make videos of their wives taking BWC.
>>540028207Total surveillance state
>>540028207It's all just an excuse for the jews to steal what remains of the goyim's savings and pension money.
>>540034979>The datacenters are made so the gov can implement china style surveillance systemThis. "Datacenter" is a kike renaming of what are actually "surveillance centers."It's like telling chickens their trip to the slaughterhouse is a visit to a "processing facility."
>>540043702I’ve been listening to Boku no Pico while sleeping to prepare for being gay in the future
>>540028207>Goyim is still in the platonic cave of profits not realizing they're blocking the exit, fencing the surroundings and planting security cameras in every section>But how will they profit?!??!?>You, a pickaxe and the coalmine now DIG goy!
>>540028207>a stable 4G connection is good enough to travel across the Potomac reliably in 2026 >completely useless in a subway >a usb cable that doesn't break in two months is $70I just have zero intrinsic value for any silicon valley bullshit, they lobby every branch of government
>>540046193If trillions of goybucks do get sunk into shartbots that can't even generate porn properly isn't that technically a slightly deflationary strategy because it takes a lot of imaginary fiat money off the market without returning any gains or producing any product whatsoever, much like with electronic shitcoins?/biz/raeli feedback needed urgently
>>540038370This anon gets it.
>>540028207Who do you think underwrites this debt and in turn makes profits from packaging it up and selling it? The banksBut who would be interested in purchasing this debt? Why, the largest and wealthiest block of the US population - the boomers. They're shifting their assets from 'high risk stocks' to 'low risk bonds' which are being sold to them to build out this AI infrastructure. When this blows up boomers will need cash - sell their single family homes and collapse the housing market again. Truly the dumbest generation.
https://isaiprofitable.com/Hmmm looks like it's not profitable yet. Give it another two weeks.
>>540028207and the worst thing about it is they dont even want to let people make porn with it, but if you take that away, thats like a third of the application for the technology.
AI is the best thing to ever happen to neets because all you need to use it is the infinite time glitch and autism and slightly above average intelligence and creativity, if you don't have any of these things eat shit and fucking die, if you have infinite time but are actually just stupid an have no creativity you are of no value, do either rope yourself or stop pretending you are smart enough to be offering advice and just accept you are a dumbass and smoke weed and find a chick who is also a dumbass and live a happy stupid life you fucking dumbass
>>540029602it is prety fkn good at making pornbut not much else
>>540038370Yes. Exactly.
>>540038370If you're 100k in debt the bank owns you. If you're 100b in debt you own the bank.
>>540047734Something like that, same as covid
>>540028207Just don't pay it back.
>>540028207The AI shit is just China trying to do what we did to the Soviets to bankrupt them (not that they needed much help)The chinks are investing in it, but at a lower capacity to get America to panic buy into what is essentially nothing. Thus raising the debt and driving a bunch of tech companies into the dirt.Once the bubble pops and all the tech companies go under either China will just step down their AI shit, or just buy up all the dead companies and all their work for pennies on the RMB.
>>540046433assuming space is even real, they are putting data centers up there to be out of reach of normgroids. Anyone can rent a ryder truck and fill it full and just drive it through a data center. Good luck building a LOX plant and turbomachinery to knock a data center out of orbit when even nation states are having a rough time. Probably a good idea to go all in on directed energy weapons.
