look i dont understand geopolitics at all, but i suspect nobody in the public sphere does either. how could you possibly make an informed stance on the matter without access to all the top secret information our intelligence aparatus gathers?isn't it possible that israel has been deemed of critical importance(by people with access to this data) to the interests of usa and thus we've seen decades of pro-israel brainwashing?lets be real, there are no "good guys" among the major geopolitical players. but is it not possible that USA+israel are perhaps among the least bad option?lets say /pol/ gets its wish, israel is wiped off the map, doesn't this power gap inevitably get filled by someone other than USA and to our detriment?happy to be educated, but throughout history the most logical stance on any topic is "i dont know" as those with fervent and staunch dispositions nearly universally get proven wrong on a long enough timeline.
>>540029077>how could you possibly make an informed stance on the matter without access to all the top secret informationWhy would you need "top secret information" to recognize simple patterns?>israel is wiped off the map, doesn't this power gap inevitably get filled by someone other than USA Why do you think USA would lose its power if Israel was destroyed?
Oil.There is nothing else you need to know about our alliance with Israel, why it's crucial to western imperialism, why rightists who pretend to be antisemitic are also always peddling the biggest zionist politicians and politics, and whatever other contradictions.Just oil. Oil.
>>540029077>how could you possibly make an informed stance on the matterthat reminds me of someone
>>540029077>>540029312And, of course, when people here try to pretend Jews are the beneficiaries of western imperialism because they magically control our nation, through various unverifiable conspiracies, they're just blaming "the jews" for their own crimes, of zionism for our oil imperialism.
Well then i guess it would make us not a good friend wouldnt it. The kind that back talks and undermines our best pal
>>540029300>>540029381It's just about oil. You people on the far right pretend it's not about oil in order to "Blame the jews" for your own crimes, in this case, of zionism.
>>540029384It's just about oil. You're using Israel to procure oil from middle eastern nations, and ensure it does not go to the communists.
>>540029077>I don’t understand geopolitics at allI can tell by the title; you don’t have to say it out loud
>>540029448i'm not trying to argue with youi know what i knowif you keep looking for the truth you will find it
>>540029077Depends on how you look at it. Supporting Israel is the single greatest defense against being nuked. However, Israel is also the one who would nuke us. So...
>>540029510It's about oil. You pretend it's not to blame jews for your own crimes, which, in this case despite your antisemitic peddling, include zionism.
>>540029524You are allies with Israel for oil. Particularly in order to keep oil out of the hands of communist nations, which the middle eastern nations would prefer to do business with.And, in every world war 3 scenario, Israel plays a fundamental role as our foothold in the middle east, with which to procure the oil during wartime while we would have only a few days of supply in our own petroleum reserves. It's only about oil. It's only ever about oil and you pretend otherwise in order to evade responsibility for your zionism.
>>540029585>satan's followers care about oil
>>540029448First of all, what gave you the impression I am "on the far right"? More importantly, how does USA rly on Israel for oil at all?
>>540029300>Why would you need "top secret information" to recognize simple patterns?i'm just saying, compared to those in the know, the public will never be able to make a proper assessment of any geopolitical situation. government keeps lots of secrets that will never see the light of day, so they manipulate people to their desired conclusion without revealing anything.>Why do you think USA would lose its power if Israel was destroyed?im just saying its possible, isnt it?>>540029312yes this seems the most likely conclusion. don't we want to buy as much oil as possible for as long as possible without going into our reserves if we believe its a limited resource?and an ally with nukes in the region seems like a good bargaining chip
>>540029810Please don't waste my time with the pearl clutching game where you pretend you're not far rightists on /pol/. Furthermore, Israel is our strategic foothold in the middle east, with which we conduct great deals of foreign policy with other middle eastern nations. And they have nuclear weapons, which means in any world war with communists we would be firing those missiles in order to procure the oil, which we would be fundamentally reliant upon even further procuring.
>>540029785Well that's you. This is your oil imperialism. Your policies. Your zionism. Your western imperialism. Your oil-dependency energy policies. Everything about this is your policies, which you're trying to evade responsibility for, in order to evade the consequences for your disgusting fascist actions.
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>>540029920It has to do with the complicated foreign relations of the middle east, but primarily the fact that our presence there is backed up by force, and Israel represents that force. Their nuclear armament is 1 of the main deterrents for world war with Russia and China. As the people in Washington frequently discuss, openly and factually, they are our most fundamental ally whom we fully rely upon for our way of life and imperialistic military.
The greatest ally of the United States is an island called great Britain that has three countries.
>>540029920>its possible, isnt it?One could just as easily say it is "possible" for USA to lose its power if fucking Singapore is destroyed. Don't you have any better reasoning for this theory of yours at all?>>540029942>you pretend you're not far rightists on /pol/You're on /pol/ too anon. Are you far right?>Israel is our strategic foothold in the middle east, with which we conduct great deals of foreign policy with other middle eastern nationsUSA is the one mediating for Israel and backing Israel up, to make Israels foreign policy actually viable. I don't see how Israel helps with American diplomacy at all. USA had no enemies in the region before Israel became an ally.>they have nuclear weaponsIgnoring the fact that USA has plenty of its own, what does that even have to do with the subject? How does USA rely on Israel for oil?
>>540029920>>540030156And again, the only reason people on /pol/ deny these facts is because they want to blame the jews for their own oil imperialism and zionism. Fascists primarily operate by committing every possible crime, then finding mendacious manipulative ways to blame other people for the crimes.
>>540030227Oil and jewsSame shit different stick. Nuke Israel, Nuke Saudi's, problem solves itself in 4 years tops.
>>540030182Can you please not waste my time doing the pearl clutching game on /pol/, where you pretend you're not far rightists, or offended at being noted for your far right fascist politics? Furthermore, as far as your claim that "Israel doesn't help America" with everything else you wrote, you're not basing this on anything other than your usual willful denial of basic facts which fascists on /pol/ are very unfortunately infamous for.
>>540029682My zionism? When did I say I was a zionist? Israel should not exist. Nothing is ever as simple as "just oil," no matter how many times you post it.
>>540030156>we fully rely upon for our way of life and imperialistic military.Oh
>>540029077Shill thread .. TKD
>>540030332>you pretend you're not far rightistsIf being here makes me far-right, then being here also makes you far-right. You're not special.>usual willful denial of basic factsI am asking you to tell me about these facts, please. How does Israel help USA diplomacy? How does USA rely on Israel for oil?
>>540030300It's just oil.You're pretending to believe it's about Jewish ethnic supremacy, or whatever else, in order to cover-up your own unpopular policy of zionism and western oil imperialism. You're also protecting your ability to use Jews in the future as your infamous Jewish scapegoat for the rest of your crimes which were committed for your oil imperialism, like ie 9/11.
>>540030378You are zionists, which is why you're covering-up the motive for zionism, in order to ensure the public never understands what you're doing or how you're personally responsible.
>>540030436You keep using that word, but I don't think you know what Zionism is, friend.
>>540030405You're pretending not to understand basic concepts or facts in order to evade having to recognize them. There's nothing more to write in response to you, other than to request that you please cease with the pearl-clutching game on /pol/ where you pretend to be offended over being called fascists, or to pretend that you're not fascists.
>>540030474Denying reality doesn't make it less real. Stating lies over and over again doesn't make them true. Grow up.
>>540030514You're pretending other people don't understand even the most basic political words, for no material reason, in order to evade having to face facts, or respond to the facts of the post.
>>540030548Truth in a sea of bullshit
>>540029077what if being gay with your own dad is both based.... AND trad?
>>540030548I never said I was offended, but you seem to think your own rule does not apply to you.
>>540030611You're exactly right. Thank you.
>>540030548>>540030405>You're pretending not to understand basic concepts or facts in order to evade having to recognize them. There's nothing more to write in response to you, other than to request that you please cease with the pearl-clutching game on /pol/ where you pretend to be offended over being called fascists, or to pretend that you're not fascists.PS, for the record, it's beyond asinine that you're even indignantly trying to pretend that you don't understand the concept of middle eastern oil imperialism, and now a nuclear armed nation which takes our orders and is dependent upon us for it's very survival, which has it's nukes pointed directly at every 1 of these non-nuclear-proliferated oil-rich middle eastern nations, would be relevant in advancing our imperialist oil interests. I have absolutely no fucking patience for you fucks. Mostly, you just pretend to be fucking stupid here on /pol/ in order to evade ever having to face facts or your own obvious brutal hypocrisies.
>>540030781I thought you said there was nothing more to write in response for me?
america and israel are democracy and freedom. u should travel a bit and look around. its fascists cleptocracy everywhere else. no law. no constitution. no judges, no police. wrong always wins. theres no justice. its that simple.......and voting does matter as we can see now. u voted a corrupt gangster, technocrat, oligarch into office and the first thing he did was fire judges, replace them with corrupt ones. law and justice becomes meaningless. even more than it already was.
>>540030857Is that the only answer you had? I figured it would be another impotent whinging like that. Just don't respond. You're even better off if you just don't respond.
>>540030936Are you STILL writing more in response? Boy you have no convictions at all do you? You should learn to stick to what you say, anon. Anyway since we are both here I guess that makes us both far-right, later brother!
The people on /pol/....they've committed every crime in America. You would never think fascists were gay, open borders zionists, but it's true. When you boil it down, it's all for capitailsm. Whatever benefits capitalism is what they peddle.Zionism for oil.Open borders for the capitalism (where they know, while they pretend to be anti-immigration, that this economic system fully depends on infinite migration in order to remain afloat).And the woke politics all come from them too, when you view it from the funding POV, because they know it's what keeps poor and working people voting for them, against their own financial interests (more info on that in pic rel).
if you were among USA's enemies, and you determined israel is an important(perhaps even critical) ally for them, wouldn't you try to manipulate americans into an anti-israel position through all means possible?i appreciate everyone's input, its nice to see some actual discussion in a non slide/bot thread that was created for the sole intention of manipulation or just to decrease overall board quality
>>540029312>>540029382Here we see "Our Greatest Ally™" trying to make itself look like the victim again. Poor Israel, always being used and abused by mean old America.
>>540031210>>540031121Gay, openborders zionism, understand this is all it is here on /pol/, underneath the hood.
>>540031210>high IQ>doesn’t see browns as a bioweaponKys my nigga
>>540030857He has to work overtime doing damage control for israel. Also, he gets paid per post and also per reply.
"Kiss the wall niggerfaggotWhat are you, some kind of homosexual terrorist? Kiss it you little bitch"-Jesus Christ
>>540031301you mean the us federal government?
>>540030781>t. tranny
>>540029077>as those with fervent and staunch dispositions nearly universally get proven wrong on a long enough timeline.But not jews though. We have to pretend their gay little foreskin eating demon and their faggot holohoax are real even though they factually aren't
