Are they retarded? Do they really think they're going to take all of Israel?Olmert had balls promising this and was willing to take a hit among hardliners. Palestine has never had a courageous leader willing to take a political hit for long term goals.
>>540040916>Someone breaks into your home and declares it theirs>But, you can still have the downstairs bathroom!Kys faggot.
>>540040916Olmert was too weak and deep in corruption investigations, so the leader of Palestine didn't trust he could go through with it, albeit I still believe Mahmoud Abbas should have taken it, even though Olmert was weak
>>540041039Yeah that's how the world works. Palestinians rejecting every offer of statehood in exchange for losing everything because they are delusional would be the same as Indians taking up arms in the USA Today and trying to push out every white person and lose their reservations and special status as a result.If you can't recognize your position in history I don't know what to tell you. Palestinians are delusional. if your argument is that Israel stole it when are going back to Europe?
>>540041039Yeah so why don't you go back to England.. to back up your words..
>>540041192You're a retarded faggot nigger. The kikes dont belong there, AT ALL.The Palestinians are more closely related to the Hebrews than those disgusting pig fucking, baby dick sucking satanists.
>>540041039hey how come it's not colonialism when browns do it
>>540041167Of course Abbas should have taken it. He would have put pressure on the next Israeli administration to follow through. At the time Israelis were hungering for peace, not so anymore. Nothing like this will ever be offered ever again because right wing nut jobs have been in charge of Israel and retarded extremists with delusions of total victory have been in charge of Palestine.The reality is both sides are going to have to make some sacrifices and need leaders willing to take political hits. Palestine has NEVER had that. Israel has it maybe once in a generation. Although it's been since '08 for them
>>540041260>The kikes dont belong there, AT ALL.Okay and white people don't belong in the Americas at all. Time to pack up chud
>>540041260the persians left, you worship arab rapebabies
>>540041195Wtf does that have to do with anything I said you disgusting piece of pig filth?I'm not English, I'm American, and you're a khazar, kys and save the world you piece of pig vomit pedophile.
>>540041195go back to poland kike
>>540041293I dont worship shit, youre just a kike loving piece of shit goy.
>>540041325Any American who makes the "jews are white" argument needs to leave America before I can care what you say.
>>540040916Because they correctly figured that the plan would be shredded as soon as the Israeli right came back into power, and they'd be invaded again and back at square 1.
>>540041263How did the Palestinians colonize it? They've been there 10k+ years. The kikes literally JUST got there.Hitler was too soft on England.
>>540041195>45% of ashkenazi YDNA is verifiably not middl eastern>55% is middle eastern but could be anywhere from the Middle East>81% of ashkenazim YDNA is European>total automosal DNA is unrelated to all ancient dna found in IsraelThere is no genetic and thus historical and religious right for your colonization. Your colonization is thus purely through force and that can be reversed and the will to reverse it is just as jusitified as the reversal of European colonization in Africa. So what right do you have to be there?>we need a homelandWhat about Kurds, gypsies and other stateless groups? Stalin gave you an autonomous oblast in Siberia, that not good enough?
>>540040916Renouncing East Jerusalem, which has a dominant Arab populace that is not well integrated into Israel, is the genuine hard ask of the Palis here. They also had to renounce the pipe dream of "right of returning" hundreds of thousands to millions of Palis from Lebanon/Syria/elsewhere into Israel proper which is obviously never going to happen, but which they refuse to give up on.
>>540041352I'm not Ashkenazi
>>540041039Muslims aren't humans though. They deserve as much land as other inhuman crwatures niggers, jeets or juden
>>540041431*81% of ashkenazi mtDNA is European.
>>540041375Post where I said they were white you illiterate retard? They are KIKES. They might be pale, but they sure as fuck aren't white.
>>540041431>So what right do you have to be there?Might. The same right that birthed your settlement and that of your southern neighbors.
>>540041392Did the Israeli right re-invade Sinai? Did the Israeli right invade Gaza before being attacked from Gaza? If Palestine accepted it Israel would not be invading. Nothing in history has shown that.The Israeli right are opportunists if they are presented with a chance to seize land they will but they are held back from going on offense by political restraints. The problem is that Palestinians are so fucking deluded into thinking they're going to take back all of Israel that they keep handing the Israeli right opportunities to take more land.
They need to build a direct connection between Gaza and the West Bank.Either that or give Gaza to Israel in exchange for an equal amount of land in the north.
>>540041431>Canadian talking about genetic right to be somewhere. Israelis have as much of a right to their land as you do to yours.>>540041491>They aren't semites>They aren't whiteSo what are they? Turkic people?
>>540041266I hope the far right will lose the elections in November, I can't stand them anymore
>>540041458Whatever their religion is now, is irrelevant, its who they are, and they are far and away well more connected to the peoples that have been living there for millennia than whatever pedophile pig fucking kike that think they should live there now.
>>540041574Why?
>>540040916lmfao... post something else false glib & retarded please. What color is your tiny hat today? Could you post a pic of you and your tiny hat gobbling some knish. Or maybe you dancing and singing to dreidel dreidel dreidel?>>540041167Or do ratfaced kikes like yourself prefer hava nagila hava? Any good passover bread recipes btw?
>>540041560Sorry but after 1919 colonization was agreed upon to be bad thing. Too bad for Jews they couldn’t muster enough shekels and force of will back then and had to wait until Britain occupied Palestine to force themselves through and later use ww2 arms to bring the natives to heel. Why did we give up Africa?
>>540040916>>540041167
>>540041513Blacks took back all their land. Why not Palestinians?
>>540041431Ashkenazi autosomal DNA is 40-60% Semitic. Most of the other half is Italian as a Med people who had their ethnogenesis in a Med empire. And less than half of Israeli's are Ashkenazi anyway, all the Jews of the Middle-East were expelled/emigrated to Israel after Israel was founded, they have never left the region.Fundamentally it is right that cultured Germanophile descendants of the Roman Empire should rule the provinces, and the principle of Europhile rule of the Med should be applied more broadly.
>>540041574Yeah Together seems like a very sensible party I looked at their platform and nothing stands out as bad or crazy and Haredi integration is a must from my perspective. if I was Israeli that would be my number one domestic social focus.
>>540040916>>540041195... hey how's Epstein doing these days in tel aviv?Either of you putrid gaslighting vermin got the latest IDF suicide numbers for this week?
>>540041192Don't you also think we're supposed to help the israelis? Maybe they should sink or swim on their own.
>>540040916>>540041447hey when you guys are at the synagogue circle jerk do you have let the rabbi suck all the schmeckle he wants 1st?
>>540040916Why do kikes lie about the holocaust?
>>540041693>Sorry but after 1919 colonization was agreed upon to be bad thingShould all the post-colonial states in the Middle East (every single middle eastern country) be de-ligitimized? What should we do with monarchies that were installed by Europeans with no say of the people? It's just a retarded argument.Do you think Israelis will go "Huh... I guess we are a colonial project time to do a one state solution even though that means we'll have our society totally destroyed" obviously not. Appealing to "But muh colonialism" doesn't change the facts on the ground that nobody in Israel is going to commit national suicide to appease 1 state solution retards
>>540041534Block of desert in Judean rainshadow or the Sinai is the best they can do, sorry.
>>540041644They are arrogant corrupt and believe in their own wishful thinking ignoring everyone else even USA
>>540041769It’s not 40-60%. 80% of their dna is European from the maternal side, less than 55% is middle eastern. Total autosomal dna is less than 30% Semitic. Besides that there is no direct correlation between Middle East and ancient Israel since that requires more evidence. Ashkenazi is the force behind current day Israel. Sephardic are just as much unrelated as ashkenazi, mizrahi are more Semitic for obvious reasons but what right do they have? There is no religious right because both Christians and muslims do not believe the holy land belongs to Jews anymore. Their only right is by force, and that was the right of European in black Africa before they were removed thanks to rebellions and economic mishaps caused by it. You can expect the locals to not fight back and to be supported by others, ie other muslims.
>>540041872That doesn’t matter, the precedence was already set to be anti colonial. Israel is a colonial state so the natives have as much right to remove Jewish presence as blacks did to whites in Africa.
>>540041905Haven't they yielded the greatest results of any government in Israel's history though?
>>540041740That sounds like a Palestinian problem, maybe they should be more like blacks instead of cry babies? Also Rhodesia and South Africa were apartheid states. Israel is not apartheid. You can argue the occupied territories are apartheid but not Israel proper. There was never a plan in South Africa or Rhodesia for a two state solution, if the Boers had any vision for the future they should have realized they were playing a losing game having an entire state under racial domination.>>540041815I don't care if we help Israelis or not. I don't think our support is that big of a deal for them. And I think if we stop supporting them they'll go even more sicko mode on Palestinians. They won two wars against Arab coalitions with zero western support using smuggled Czech weapons. Arabs kind of suck at fighting wars. Israel, as a state, is just better organized, less corrupt, more inspired.
>>540040916>Why did the violent inbred blood cultists refuse compromise with the other violent inbred blood cultists, who believe all other people are literal subhuman cattle only worthy of slaughter or slavery?Fucking mystery of the ages.
>>540041974>Israel is a colonial state so the natives have as much right to remove Jewish presence as blacks did to whites in Africa.It's not even close to a one to one comparison. If the Boers had the Boer free states (which would have been the case if the British didn't interfere) then it's likely there would be one or two Boer majority states in Africa right now. The reason "white countries" (I put in quotes as they were never close to a majority) fell in Africa is because they were always a racial minority imposing apartheid to rule. The possibility of a two state solution simply didn't exist and thus the situations aren't comparable.
>>540041574You must be a nigga jewClaim your human already
>>540042002>I don't care if we help Israelis or not. I don't think our support is that big of a deal for them. And I think if we stop supporting them they'll go even more sicko mode on Palestinians. They won two wars against Arab coalitions with zero western support using smuggled Czech weapons.kike, israel literally would not be able to exist without American support, you spent 8 TRILLION dollars fighting their enemies in the middle east during GWOT
>>540040916>Palestine has never had a courageous leader willing to take a political hit for long term goalsAbbas did exactly thatand look at his fate, marginalized as an Israeli puppet while settlers rampage throughout the West Bank
>>540041919No, you're confusing mtDNA for autosomal DNA. mtDNA only codes for mitochondria, an organelle, autosomal DNA encodes everything else that makes the person. mtDNA only traces one maternal ancestor, autosomal DNA contains every ancestor. They're broadly Semetic autosomal DNA is 40-60%, and the rest is mostly Italian Mediterranean from a period of time when Italy and the Levant were one contiguous political unit.In any case, the more European they are they more right they have to the region.
>>540040916>Not allowed to have their own military nor police force and would have to rely on the IDF (so wtf could this state do when Israeli settlers once again settle and the IDF protects them?)>All airspace above 15k km is Israeli and not allowed to make their own airport>No port and not allowed to construct one (not that they could since Gaza is unsuitable for a deep water port) and instead they would have to rely on an Israeli port which has Israeli customs and Israel can cutoff access to at any time.>Gaza-West Bank road may never be actually constructed and Israel can cutoff this road at any time.I mean this is a great deal compared to whatever Palestine could get now. But let's not act like being a landlocked state without a military is ideal.
>>540042192>Iraq would have taken out Israel KEK this is your mind on campsim. Always two more weeks until TID if it weren't for America
>>540041039Was it their home?I thought it was Ottoman Empire territory for centuries and then it became a British possession after the Ottoman Empire dissolved in the aftermath of WW1
>>540042002I was speaking of all colonial Africa. Besides this, Israel is an apartheid state. Israeli arabs live in a parallel society within Israel and are prevented from buying property in Jewish ethno-areas that Jews stole from the locals, their descendants live in Palestine, the inner lands, West Bank, the Arab world and the rest of the world. Palestinians in Israel are only given a modicum of “freedom” to make Israel look good. It is apartheid. There is no argument for Israel’s existence besides brute force which can be reversed and was reversed in other cases of colonial states.Ashkenaz jews = 45% non middle eastern paternal lines, most of the rest of the 55% is from other middle eastern areas likely.Ashkenaz Jews = 81% maternal European lines.Ashkenaz and other European jews have no genetic and thus no historical claim to Palestine. Their religious claim meaningless since Christian’s and Muslim’s dispute.Palestinians have a right to all of their territory as blacks did in Africa. Israel was created as the last colonial state in the world, in a time when colonization was frowned upon.
>>540040916israels not gonna live another 50 years my mantheyre on borrowed time, the boomers in US are getting older and older and the newer generation don't want to see a israeli state existingironically theyre facing a kingdom of jersualem situation
>>540042211We already have their autosomal dna, it’s unrelated to any ancient dna from Palestine. Besides have 81% maternalLines from Europe, 45% non mena paternal lines, and the rest of the 55% not conclusively ancient Palestine there is no historical right for their claim. There is not religious right since both Christianity and Islam renounce their claims to the holy land. Their only claim is through force and Palestinians have the right to remove their colonial oppressors like blacks did, and Indians, and mestizos.
>>540041167>>540041192>>540041195Kill yourself niggers
>>540042501>I was speaking of all colonial AfricaWhich isn't even close to comparable. that's like comparing colonial togoland with a couple thousand soldiers to colonial Canada with settlers. >Israel is an apartheid state It's not. Arab-Israelis can live wherever they want and are entitled to all the same rights and have judges on the Supreme Court and their own political parties.Again, if you want to call West Bank an apartheid occupation that is probably accurate. But to call Israel an apartheid state is just retarded. >B...but look at this ethnic map!So if there's ethnic communities that's apartheid? Does Chinatown in Montreal = apartheid?
>>540040916>trusting the kikes to honor a deal
>>540040916It's a conundrum Rabbi!
>>540041447cool, go back to wherever you are from shitskin
>>540040916Does a bee compromise?No, it kills it self to hurt you a little bit.
>>540042501>Ashkenaz and other European jews have no genetic and thus no historical claim to Palestine. Their religious claim meaningless since Christian’s and Muslim’s dispute.Notice how I never once brought up religion or genetics. > Israel was created as the last colonial state in the world, in a time when colonization was frowned upon.The UN gave a mandate to Israel. Clearly the world wasn't frowning as much as you say they were kek >>540042576> and the newer generation don't want to see a israeli state existingNew generation has a negative view of Israel that doesn't mean a one state solution. Most Europeans have a very negative view of America today that doesn't mean they want America to collapse. It's tied to who's ruling. Bibi is super unpopular abroad.
>>540042629Chinatown? You're the retard.
>>540042629Israeli arabs live in a parallel society with less rights then their Jewish counterpart. This is a verifiable truth and is thus apartheid. Arabs aren’t allowed to live in tel aviv which is it is 95% Jewish with the remaining 5% being from the old Jaffa town that was not dislodged because maybe the British stopped it.
>>540041039>Someone breaks into your home and declares it theirs>But, you can still have the basement>You refuse>They kill your wife and say you can have half the basement>You refuse>They kill your son amd say you can have the basement bathroom>You refuse>They kill your daughter and offer you the basement shower and bath tub
>>540042738Where was this mandate from the League of Nations? This is where anti colonialism occurred. Yes the UN gave them a mandate, which is to say they let them steal the land because of bribes.
>>540042745>Israeli arabs live in a parallel society with less rights then their Jewish counterpart.Wrong. Name the rights Arab Israelis are lacking>Arabs aren’t allowed to live in tel aviv which is it is 95% Jewish This is just a straight up lie. It would be like saying "Jews aren't allowed to live in Rahat. There are ethnic clusters but Arabs can freely live in Tel Aviv and do. Jews can move to Rahat if they want to. Show me where Arab citizens are given fewer rights than Jews anywhere in the legal system. And of course I am talking about Arab Israelis not the West Bank.
>>540040916Shut the fuck up kike
>>540042804Apparently the whole world got together to say colonialism is based. Not so for Canada, you're on stolen land.
>>540040916Why would you trust jews to honor an agreement? You have everything to lose and they have everything to gain.
Israelis wouldn't have held up their end of the bargain.
>>540042501Indonesia is a colonial project, a completely made up state with zero historical precedent. In fact they invaded western Papua in the 60s and have been occupying ever since with an apartheid system. Just one example, there are more.
>>540042576Can you admit that this has been said by millions of people every day for the last 100 plus years but still they are there ?
>>540042602^this
>>540041266Israel and Palestine are both drunk on their own fundamentalist religions that tell them the shared land under foot was given exclusively to them by God Almighty from On High. Unless and until they secularize, the ability to apply critical reasoning to their geopolitical problems will not materialize. Dimly I remember some polls showing at least in Israel it is the youngest generations of their society that are becoming the most fanatical religious zealots while the dying geriatrics were the most secular.https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-wake-of-october-7-young-israelis-embracing-jewish-traditions-new-survey-shows/
>>540042745Christians and other religions minorities live in a parallel society with less rights than their Muslim counterparts on every Muslim country
>>540042992soviet union was also around for 80 years
>>540043020I really think the religious element is overstated. yes, Israel has crazy religious settlers and an ultra-right wing with people like Ben-Gvir and Palestine has numerous islamists and jihadist groups but for much of the 20th century Israel had a minuscule religious zionist wing and Palestinian liberation efforts were spearheaded by mostly secular socialist Arab nationalists. Ba'athism has traditionally played way more of a role than Islam for Palestinians, at least until the 1980s. Israel was founded by secular socialists. >Haredi demographics Yes that's a problem. That's why hopefully the opposition wins and can finally do much needed Haredi integration. But most Israelis are not religious.
>>540041039Literally every country has had to fight for their current borders.We lost half of Sweden in 1809.Paletinians pretend like they're the only ones who lost territory because they lost a war.I really have no sympathy for these professional victims. Finland could accept 1/3 of their population being displaced because of an illegal bullshit invasion and still make friends with the Russians just so life could continue but palirats has to do this eternal jihad bullshit to keep the conflict going for several generations.Clinton offered them a state, an extremely fair deal considering the situation of being utterly defeated, and they still said no because "we want more".
>>540041039>you are a homeless guy camping on some land>your tribe has never asserted a proper state or national identity>you are one of many tribes on the same campground>the people who used to have a house there return (and legally own the land)>they say you can keep half but they want their home backThere has never been a palestinian nation or peopleThats just muslim bitching
>>540043206The Clinton deal was not a fair deal, it gave land in the West Bank to settlers. Settlers have no right there. Palestinians have as much a right to get all their land back as black Africans in Africa from colonial Germanic oppressors.
>>540043124Israel has way less corruption, a way more robust civil society, market economy, liberal institutions, etc. Communist countries suck ass at existing. Israel is basically a western democracy plopped in the Middle East. They're not going to collapse from within due to mismanagement. I can't really think if the last time a western liberal democracy just collapsed overnight. If you're saying they're going to be invaded that's highly unlikely. Even if USA cut off all aid it's not like the entire Middle East would unite to crush Israel. Regional politics and the balance of power means that Israel will have allies, or at least nations that don't want to see Israel destroyed and replaced with an Iranian satellite state.
>>540043300There has NEVER EVER ONCE IN HISTORY BEEN A PALESTINIAN PEOPLE SINCE THE JEWS WERE EXPELLEDThe land was inhabited by multiple stateless tribes. Only fucking muslims claim the entire desert is theirs. Palestine means muslim claim to palestine.
>>540043206This. Pro-Palestinians are literally killing any hope for a free Palestine by encouraging Palestinians to keep fighting an obviously lost war. It would be one thing if there was a reasonable chance of success but it's pretty clear Palestine isn't going to be taking anything back. They blew so many fucking chances have a state.
>>540041195>Yeah so why don't you go back to England.. to back up your words..The difference is that I am human and you are not.
>>540043355And what right do Jews have then besides force? Why is their force justified by counter force by arabs there and fellow muslims not?
>>540043300Do these countries also deserve their land back and total decolonization of the current invaders ? Tibet , Xinyang , West Papua, western Sahara, north Cyprus , darfur , Kurdistan, Biafra ?
>>540043374>just don’t fight no point we can’t win, we must be slaves
>>540043401If Palestinians were going to say "We will fight and if we all die fighting for generations so be it" the thing that drives people nuts is when they offered multiple really fair deals and they turn around and start a suicide bomb campaign instead. They can fight and use force all they want, they'll just continue to lose and hypocritically cry about justice.
>>540043484If they can take it back and have supporters to help them then yes since I’m not complaining. If Jews have a right to force while using diaspora wealth and violence why not Palestinians?
>>540043401They are the natives.They even maintained stronghold populations despite islam. Were those jews traitors to palestine?No. PALESTINE NEVER EXISTED. It is a made up state that means all the muslims who hate jews. Besides who gives a fuck about rights in a land without a nation? No state by its people. No state for its people. It was just britain providing the bare minimum to a bunch of totally disconnected settlements and jerusalem. The jews were as valid as anyone else who waltzed in. Muslims arabs sure as fuck weren’t native.
>>540043509>Wars can NEVER EVER EVER END until one side is TOTALLY killed Okay so would you recommend Mexico invade the USA to retake the south west?Sometimes the best move is to accept a settlement. Again, if Palestinians had a fighting chance to kick out all the Jews then sure go for it, it's just not going to happen. You only should fight so long as it increases the chances of a better outcome for you. Not fight just because you're a suicidal retard. The longer Palestine has fought the WORSE their chances for a favorable settlement have become.
>>540043580Jews are not native to Palestine except for the paltry 1000 Samaritan Jews that Jews don’t consider to be Jews. Jews are genetically not related to ancient Israelites or even the Jews of Jesus’ time that were mostly idumean converts>>540041431>>540041483
Jews are native to judea , Arabs are native to Arabia , as the names clearly indicate . The entirety of north Africa is invaded and occupied Arab land that they definitely are not native to . When does that African decolonization project start ?
>>540043677Jews are native to judea , Arab invaders are naturally native to Arabia. Do you support decolonization of of north Africa and the colonist Arabs sent back to Arabia ?
>>540043642Wars can last for centuries mate. Anyways it’s up for the Palestinians to decide, hamas was okay with 1967 UN agreed upon borders but Israel decided they wanted to continue their theft in the West Bank. If I were a Palestinian I’d continue the fight, the Jews have effectively damaged the epigenetics of Palestinian with constant starvations, low quality food goods, and pollution. They might as well keep fighting and hoping for the best. What’s more, why should they continue to fight when 2 billion Muslims support them?
>>540041195Why don't you go back to hell you hideous fucking nosebeast
>>540043771Jews are not native to Judea. There is no proof Jews are from Judea.>do you support arabs being decolonized from North AfricaThe vast majority of North Africans have native YDNA lineages and maternal DNA lineages. Exact opposite of Jews.
>>540043814Are you a Muslim colonizing England ?
>>540043717Everywhere in North Africa and the Middle East including Palestine speaking Arab isn't just Arab speaking because of Arabs settling and displaying local population, it's largely the locals taking on a new language, like in the case of Turkey where noone really has Turkic dna but they all speak the language
>>540043780>hamas was okay with 1967 UN agreed upon borders Wrong. Their founding charter said they would never recognize an Israeli state. They later updated a charter to say they would temporarily agree to '67 borders while simultaneously saying they would never recognize Israel so what does that even amount to? A frozen conflict? > If I were a Palestinian I’d continue the fightThat has never once worked out for Palestinians in almost 80 years. Literally every time they fight they lose more ground they are never going to get back.
Per your own set of rules and your stated support of African decolonization I would assume you support a total repatriation of the non native Arab population back to Arabia ?
>>540043861Fuck off you brown cunt.All you god bothering faggots can piss off to.
>>540043985Haha inbred porky calling others brown . Classic m8 !!!
>>540043905The Talmud says that every non Jew must be killed or enslaved. How is that not the same? Hamas agreed upon 1967 borders, how much more pound of flesh do you want? I know Jews are hoping to terrorize Palestinians to the point where they all leave but that’s not going to happen since they’ve all tripled, quadrupled, pentupled down to stay at the Jews expense.>>540043966North Africans are not Arab rape babies. What’s your point?
>>540042753Holy fucking kike brained!!!
>>540044066Why is Egypt called the Arabic Republic of Egypt if they aren't Arabs ?
>>540041039Fippy bippy. Jews eternally started every conflict they're in because THEY invented the fake foreskin eating demon god that gave them land that wasn't theirs. Literally every jew killed in any context is self defense because they made up a fake foreskin eating demon god that says you are their slave
>>540043263>used to have a house thereAccording to fake shit written by kikes. Also the region was quite wealthy and modern when the kike terrorists invaded in 1947
>>540043206>waaa these other people cucked out, why won't you cuck out??? Don't you know might makes right (meaning that killing me is automatically self-defense because I'm announcing I'm a mercenary)???
>>540043677They are. >BUT THEY RACE MIXEDYes that happens when you are exiledmuslim arabsHAVE NEVER BEEN NATIVE TO PALESTINETHERE HAS NEVEREVERBEEN A PALESTINIAN STATE BY AND FOR ITS OWN PEOPLENOT EVEN AN ATTEMPT EXCEPT ON THE GROUNDS OF ISLAM SAYING ITS ALL MUSLIM PROPERTYNEVER!There was NO palestine EVER. Just random stateless people.
>>540044517The only wealth was arab squatters in jerusalem leeching off british gibsA city they didn’t even build
>>540043300>Settlers have no right there.Russians had no right to Karelia but you dont see Finns keeping the conflict going, firing rockets and teaching kids to shoot at Russians.Neither does Germans to Poles who now lives in Prussia.Again, Palestinians act like they're the only victims in the world. Everyone else has moved on and accepted their losses but the Palestinians wont, and I am supposed to think this is rational behaviour?You yourself even said "lul imagine if this happened to you" as if Swedes historically never gave their lives for the borders we have today? Fuck off faggot. We fought harder than Palestinians for our country, it wasnt given to us on a platter like you seem to suggest with your bullshit analogy.Palestinians should have sued for peace a long time ago, they would have had a country, albeit smallet, but better than what they have now.They're irrational fucking cretins, and they do a shit ton of crime in my country as well.That said, I also hate kikes and their subversive journalism, but that's not part of this debate. Fuck em both honestly.
>>540044630King David is fake. Exodus is fake. Jacob and Esau are fake. Moses is fake. Abraham is fake. Killing you is automatic self defense, lying kike rat.
>>540040916This was a unilateral proposal made by Israel. Palestinians couldn't accept it or reject it, and the Israelis rejected it anyway.
>>540044664More kike lies
>>540044665The only basis for palestine is islam says that is muslim land. Thats it. None of the other randos who lived there were ever involved. Palestine means muslim ownership of the holy land. Not a people. Not a struggling victim people. Islamic expansion.
>>540044726The only basis for Israel is that Christianity says It's their holy land. Thats it.
>>540044665If you belive might makes right, you are a mercenary and your human rights are forfeit. You cannot be killed, tortured or terrorized. You are a mercenary. Literally any bad thing that happens to you, you deserve. Killing you is automatic self-defense
>>540044678>nooo there was never a jewish state thereThen who did the romans exile you fucking antisemitic idiotThe jews are going back. To the last muslim. Say death to islam right nowSay muhammad was a lying pedophile who never knew god. Say it. Now. I denounce the talmud. Christ is king. >>540044697Say it. Muhammad was a lying child rapist who never knew god.
>>540040916If they didn't, how tf did jews get there... ALSO TKD
>>540040916I think Bill Clinton said something along the lines that Palestinians don't want a country they just want to kill jews.
>>540041167>>540041195How the fuck are you so retarded that you don't know the shit your country does? >>540044680Please anon, can you just be a normal and acknowledge reality right quick? I am getting beyond tired of lyin' Jews.
>>540044811Why are liberals always such fucking retards like you>THE HIGHER PRINCIPLE! THE ETHICAL CONSISTENCY!Lemme guess you’re vegan and meat is murderIn any case you have an arbitrary self made religion
Reasons
>>540040916Because they got nothing? You know israel just moves into the west bank at will, right?
>>540040916It wouldn't have mattered if they had accepted the deal, eventually Israel would have just killed them and taken the rest of the land anyway.
>>540041430Lol no one was really there until relatively recently. The population of Palestine was like 300k and Jerusalem was like 30k post ww1 census. Then you saw mass immigration of Arabs into the region when Britain took over the area.
>>540044950>palestinians are harmless victimsYou mean they’d attack israel with petty mortars and lose half of it every time>ALLAHU ACKBAR! NO JEW MAY LIVE IN OUR HOLY LAND! -constitution of “palestine”
>>540044811Might makes right is how the majority of the countries in the world formed .
>>540040916>Are they retarded?
>>540044811I never said anything about might makes right.Im merely pointing out that Palestinians are faggots for thinking they are special for losing a war and losing territory. They arent. They pretend like their situation is unique. It isnt.
>>540044665So if Swedes fought hard for their borders why can’t Palestinians be allowed to do it today with their land?
>>540044824The romans killed cannanite LARPers with a fake religion that you're not even fucking related to. Your big gay western wall is a Roman horse stable. They found Roman money under its very foundation. Ashkenazi are half gypsy European race traitors dabbling in eastern mysticism and deserve the rope. You literally cannot be murdered or tortured, you are a mercenary
You are retarded faggot. Every "agreement" is Palestine saying yes to give up something just for Israel to back down on their word the moment they get it.You are either IDF, kike or a complete moron.
>>540045106>So if Swedes fought hard for their borders why can’t Palestinians be allowed to do it today with their land?they can they just fucking lose lol just don't cry genocide when you refuse to co-exist
>>540045092You absolutely believe in might makes right. Killing you is automatic self-defense. You are a mercenary.
>>540044630What? Palestinians have literal ancient dna from as far back as the natufians, even Jews have it but less than Palestinians by several fold. Again Jews are mostly not descended from the natives of ancient Palestine so what right do they have? Besides force. And if force only matters then Palestinians have a right to use the same force to enact counter conquest.
>>540045150Some of your MPs literally believe you're fighting a multiple front 2nd Holocaust. Where do you get off you weird haired freak?
>>540040916>Palestine has never had a courageous leader willing to take a political hit for long term goals.Oslo Accords. How did that went for them?
>>540040916>History began in 2008
>>540045150War isn’t over though. >co-existGo on google maps, Palestinians live in forced slums while Jews get gibs from the west to be build fancy apartments and detached homes. Can you really expect them not to hate?
>>540045216Arabs are from Arabia . Arabs are not native to the levant thus not native to Israel
>>540045384>Some of your MPs literally believe you're fighting a multiple front 2nd Holocaustit could be if palishits had more than a shared IQ pool of 53
>>540045409They started a suicide bombing campaign days after that photo.
>>540045115>no the people who had a kingdom there were fake actuallyCall muhammad a fake prophet and a faggot. Now. >>540045216Some do. Most are arabs. Their identity is muslim and arab. There is no anciet nation… except israel and judah. They arent the last of the mohicans. They are random arabs from around the region.
>>540045106You retards always try to map the Palestine/Israel conflict onto conflicts that don't map on.If after Russia took Finland and the Aalands from Sweden Sweden kept firing artillery into Finland and doing terrorist attacks and moving kids into military camps so they can die and be written about in newspapers. Then some of them go to Denmark-Norway and freak out when they don't want to get involved and try to coup their leader for not having adequate "Nordic Unity". Then Russia invades to stop the constant Swedish incursions and terror attacks and Sweden fags out like a bitch and begs for help and NOBODY wants to help them because they tried to coup their allies for not helping them enough and they have totally unrealistic goals. They keep doing this until their territory gets smaller and smaller and then they start screaming "I want the 1809 borders back!!!" while still screaming about how they want to take back all of Finland. Essentially they want their enemy to cede territory while not taking off the table seizing it all.Is that what you're suggesting Sweden did?
>>540045467I already explained, ashkenaz are only 55% middle eastern ydna and guess what haplogroups they have in common from arabs in Arabia? These genes need more in depth researching to determine exact origin within mena but we can safely say between Palestinians and Jews, Jews are not from israel.
>>540040916That's a map of Halo.
>>540045493all they have to do, say yes we agree to these bordersthen they get their own territory, their own gibs, and legitimizationthen they build up for a few years and pose a much more significant threat to israelbut nope allahuackbar infidel quds will be ours inshallah
>>540045493Thanks for proving my point.
>>540045479Hamas was actually so strategically brilliant they made the entire planet care about them again and put Palestine on a more probable route for actualized statehood, and it's extremely EXTREMELY hilarious how infuriating this is to you.
>>540045106>So if Swedes fought hard for their borders why can’t Palestinians be allowed to do it today with their land?The difference is that we knew when to sue for peace if we were losing a war, in order to preserve what was left.That's how rational people does it. That's the whole point of suing for peace early, so that you still have some strength left at the negotiation table in order to assert some of your interests.What you dont do is fight to the last village, then enter the negotiation table pretending like you still have leverage. This is what the palestinian morons have done. They enter the negotiation table thinking they can make whatever demands they want. Literally no one has ever acted like this. Ever.That's the fundemental difference.And dont ever compare Swedes who have fought and died for this country, despite the fact that we lost over 50% of the original Sweden, to those rats. The Palestinian diaspora here are known for their crime and corruption. Theyre worthless people.
>>540045516The cannanite faggot LARPers had an average sized city. They were schizo pedophiles who decided they needed to make a reactionary cult out of spite of Helenistic moral superiority. Judaism is much younger than you faggots claim. It was cooked up around 200 bce. All your myths are fucking fake
>>540042602Or you take the European side, and not the grab-bag of hopeless Third Worlders who have no right to self-rule and perpetually belong in provincial alignment to a world-hegemonic system of either Anglo-American, European, or Chinese.You simply don't understand what autosomal or mtDNA and Y-DNA are. Both mtDNA and Y-DNA measure a single ancestral line as a marker. Around half the autosomal DNA, i.e. the actual DNA content and not merely a marker of one line, is Semitic in that broad sense.
>>540045620>put Palestine on a more probable route for actualized statehoodwho is giving "palestine" statehood? when? by what means?
>>540045561Jews are definitely from judea and araArabs are definitely from Arabia, how do you think they got these names ? The most common surname in Gaza is al masri which means Egyptian.
>>540045523But you’re doing that, I’m saying that if Sweden fought hard for their borders why can’t Palestinians do the same for their natural birth right going back thousands of years?>>540045516They are from the region today called Israel. Yes some of them have foreign genes, but Jews are mostly foreign genes not from the area. Jews cannot use genes and thus history to justify their land theft, they can’t even use religion since no other religion agrees with them besides evangelicals. If Israel has a right to use force to take land why can’t Palestinians do the same to get back their land?
>>540045596>pose a much more significant threat to israelYou must consider me degenerate. Im not a Eastern European inbred larping as a sandnigger like you. Your dumbass is really saying that Israel is willing to give Palestine something that will make it more threatening. GTFO kike.
>>540045620They already lost 70% of Gaza in return for bot likes online
>>540045561The identity of the “palestinians” is muslim arab. And here’s the white liberal open borders supporter to say jews are too race mixed and actually dont exist. Therefore palestine must belong to islam, which by your standards isnt a real religion, therefore palestine isnt real to begin with, which, it wasn’t.
>>540045690>namesIndonesians have Semitic names. Doesn’t mean anything.
>>540045728>Your dumbass is really saying that Israel is willing to give Palestine something that will make it more threateningno not today but a couple decades back yes they had every chance best they came up with was gaza
>>540040916From the River to the Sea you filthy fucking kike
>>540045645Schizo babbleLiberalism has rotted your brainYou have also essentially called your own country invalid.
>>540041192>if your argument is that Israel stole it when are going back to Europe?
>>540045722You are acting like every fight everywhere is the same fight. Sweden fought for their borders until it became clear they were going to have to give up territory or face a worse fate. Yes, that's often the calculation countries have to make. I already explained what a comparable comparison would be in my post. Sweden lost a fuck ton of territory in the 1800s then basically fucked off from global politics for 200 years. Is that what Palestine is doing? How much more territory would Sweden have lost if they kept fighting? They had statesmen willing to make a tough choice. Palestine has NEVER had that.
>>540045805Hi Mohammed
>>540045667Probably the next Dem President, and also all your foreskins will be restored sorry Chiam.
>>540045722>Uhm, jews cant live in their homeland because arabs are more like native injuns by my standards ok. only my preferred dna can live in certain places. Their identity look behavior culture, all of it, is muslim arab. There was never a palestinian peopleThere was never a unified government by and for the peopleIt was 300k unrelated tribesmen of 3 different religions
>>540045813I don't subscribe to universal ethics, they're for faggots.
>>540045848>They had statesmen willing to make a tough choice. Palestine has NEVER had that.it's because "palestinians" are genuienly retarded people, martyrdom is all they want and their highest honortheir identity is exploding in a bus
>>540045765 The majority don't, they mostly have ethnic names like Javanese or sundanese etc
>>540045722>Uhm, jews cant live in their homeland because arabs are more like native injuns by my standards ok. only my preferred dna can live in certain places. Their identity look behavior culture, all of it, is muslim arab. >>540045805There was never a palestinian peopleThere was never a unified government by and for the peopleIt was 300k unrelated tribesmen of 3 different religions>>540045805From the river to the sea, make the lands muzzrat freeTurn every mosque to ashAnd every quran to tissueAnd when bibi wipes his assOnly gay white women will take issue
>>540045896Explain why the British named the region and referred to it as Palestine if they never existed.
>>540045908They never even had statesmen. They had random muslim terrorists claiming the land belonged to islam.
>>540045848I don’t really care for your pilpul, the fact remains that Palestinians kept fighting and will keep fighting until they decide for themselves to stop fighting, they have support from all the Muslim world. The likelihood of Palestinians taking back Palestine in the near or far future is greater than the Swedes winning the battle of poltava.
>>540045879There is really no way to make a statelet there now , there is no longer any continuity with all of the Jewish development in judea . It's simply not longer feasible.
>>540045848Finland is an even better example. Invaded for no reason, 1/3 of its population displaced. This happened only 7 years before Israel/Palestine conflict so its not some lost lore.The Finns grudgingly accepted this and learned to live with their neighbours in order to give their children a future of peace.If the Finns had acted like Palestinians and refused peace, kept firing rockets across the border, kept teaching their kids to shoot at Soviet border guards, Stalin would have fucking ended their state and likely their people.Dont even get started on Germany who lost its ancestral home of Prussia. Krauts moved on and built and even better country.Palirats were given a state on a platter by Clinton and still said no because "we want more". It's a fucking mindblowing mentality.
>>540045970>but there was a name!It was a generic name given to the region by rome after the expulsion of the jews. Their. Identity. Is. Muslim. Arab.
>>540046002they cannot manufacture "statesman"they teach their children to explode in a bus as soon as they can readthere is no solution or peace to be had with these modern-day barbarians, they don't want anything like peaceif israel disappeared today they would attack the next poor bastard next to them like the tribal warlords that they would amount to
>>540046018Then just do land swaps. I really hope you understand your country doesn't have much time left.
>>5400459704/5 of the territory is now Jordan of these people are a true Palestinian people why aren't they demanding 4/5 of their rights ? They only want to fight for a portion of 1/5 ?
>>540046027So why did the Finns fought the winter war instead of giving up according to your logic?
>>540046056So it must be doneAirdrop them weed, feminist paraphernalia, and furry porn
>>540046038Good. That still makes them Palestinian. A Muslim Arab of Egypt is not Egyptian? WTF are you on about? These weak attempts as propaganda are ridiculous. Change the script, not even normies are buying your bullshit anymore.
>>540046080I dont care what they want or dont want.
>>540046062How much time do they have ?
>>540040916Fatah and Hamas have rejected every solution because it means they lose power and money. The rest of the middle east got tired of their bullshit and decided to deal directly with Israel instead of these clowns. Even Obongo got sick of them
>>540046122They are random muslim arabs who flooded in as soon as jews tried to build civilization, dipshit. They are not natives losing their treasured nation. It is muslim expansion. Nothing else.
>>540046150about tree fiddy
>>540046141Hahaha that's some funny cope Mohammed, I knew you wouldn't be able to answer.
>>540046038Their identity is fuck you, kike. The region was well established as a wealthy part of the middle east all though the ottoman period. It was somewhat multicultural as a commercial hub. Your insane arbitrary threshold that they have some hyper nationalist identity to have valid claims to their land is pure kike pilpul.
>>540046172You are not natives either, kike.
>>540046174350 years , I think they have longer than that .
>>540046194>Their identity is fuck you, kike.this guy gets ittheir identity is entirely based on the idea that israel exists"palestinians" can't even exist without an israelit would instantly devolve into tribal warfare and or end up another shithole dictatorship failed state
>>540046114>So why did the Finns fought the winter war instead of giving up according to your logic?I never said arabs should not have resisted you projecting faggot.They resisted in the 1948 war, and just like the Finns, they lost that war fair and square, in fact the kikes were horribly outnumbered and outgunned but still prevailed. The point being is that here is where the difference starts; the Finns knew when the fight was lost, when to sue for peace, when to preserve what they could, how to move on. If they had done what the Palestinians did and refused peace and kept the conflict going, Stalin would have ended them.
>>540046056Region was just fine before you kikes showed up
>>540046194No it really wasn’tIt was never a nationJust random arabsAnd then new random arabsPalestinians: the only genocide victims whose population steadily increases the whole time
>>540046203You should try not to seethe so much it gives away your Islamic identity. Just some free advice.
>>540046184I dont need to manufacture and win arguments online to justify my wage like you, pathetic jeet scoundrel.
>>540046027This >>540046114Nobody is saying never fight. We are saying if you don't stop fighting when continuing to fight will be a detriment to you then you are a retard. Finland surrendered when they realized they were not going to win and it was better to concede some lands. Right now in Ukraine/Russia both sides can reasonably think that fighting will help them in negotiations. With Israel Palestine the entire story of the conflict is Palestine refusing to accept peace deals, fighting again, losing more territory, crying they won't be handed the territory back, fighting again, do some coup attempts in Egypt and Jordan because they don't want to waste lives for Palestine, fail, cry again, fight moreIf you fight with totally unrealistic goals and no realistic means of achieving your goals you are making a horrible strategic error. Palestine has been doing that for decades now.
>>540046216I think your translator is doing something weird with the punctuation.
>>540046172Ottoman census says there were cities, you know the key factor in civilization and half a million Muslim arabs local to the area, by 1880 ie an indigenous Palestinians. Jews brought their civilization which was and still is degenerate- tel aviv - gayest capital on earth.
>>540046255>dont exist near us or we chimp out kaffir!Say muhammad was a faggot who raped a nine year oldBecause he was and he did. You shouldnt have an issue stating the truth.
>>540046256>reeeee they didn't have a hyper nationalist ethnic supremacy state, that means all your legal land deeds are invalid This is why killing kikes in any context is automatic self-defense
>>540046300Why does the rabbi suck the baby penis though? I never understood that.
>>540046277 Jeet !!!! Fuck I thought you would at least call me a lkike , can I get a little respect ???
>>540046250But the Finns bothered with fighting in 1940 because they could…win. Right? And the Palestinians haven’t lost, the war is still ongoing since 1947. Palestinians having more balls and pain threshold than Swedes is not a counter argument against Palestinians.
>>540046312They were never a nationThey were never nativesNo unique cultureNothing to be lost to the worldThey were an advance guard of muslim conquest and nothing else. The identity of a palestinian is “i am a muzzrat and i hate jews more than i like fucking goats”
>>540046300>"exist">steal land with terrorism actually
>>540046279Google Translator Hindi to English not so great apparently.
>>540046279I've just been informed that on a jeet so take it easy
>>540046323Muzzrat confirmedBomb em again ben!
Whoever was there first doesn't matter.He who has an army that can defend the land controls it, everything else is just copeIf you care so much go to Australia and start protesting that the occupiers have to go and return the land to the oogaboogas. Instead of larping with the Arafat scarf you can larp with pretendian clothing like a bone through your nose
>>540046382>They were never a nation>They were never natives>No unique culture>Nothing to be lost to the worldThey say the same about Canada.
>>540046382>your regional culture wasn't unique enough to meet my arbitrary threshold so now your legal land deeds are invalid This is why killing kikes in any context is automatically self-defense. You announce the justification for killing you.
>>540046323There is a Hadith where Mohammed sucks boys penises and another one where he gets sodomized by an Indian tribe then cries in his friends crotch .
>>540046361Show flag, Ishaan. I know you are one of them bots spamming this board.
>>540046385>when we’re losing the winners are terroristsDon’t attack jews if you don’t want to lose
>>540041039FPBP
>>540046445There was no regional culture at all. Just more islamics speaking arabic.
>>540046474Do you think im from the al zutt tribe ?
>>540046478>"attack">exist in the land the fake foreskin eating demon that I made up myself gave to me actually
>>540046373Kek so you've completely given up trying to ratonalize the Palirats behaviour.This shit only makes me more sympathetic to Israel, an apartheid warmongering state I otherwise despise, at least they dont have an insufferable cult following everywhere online that I constantly have to listen to. Thanks for yet another worthless debate that amounted to fuck all no matter how much reason one gives because you're all completely brainrotted on palirat propaganda. i hope the jews exterminates your people (cause you're likely a diaspora). Kindly fuck off.
>>540046517>your pottery wasn't colorful enough so now your legal land deed is invalid This is why killing kikes in any context is automatically self-defense
>>540046373Finnish fighting prevented the USSR from annexing more land than they ended up doing and the installation of a puppet government. Stalin wanted to be done with fighting Fins and offered a negotiated settlement. It's not close to ideal for Finland but they kept their country largely intact and kept their sovereignty. Yes, they gave up a lot of important land and had to resettle people. But that was their best option, and they fought for that option to be a reality.Palestine hurts their options the more they fight. They keep losing land. If Palestine stopped fighting and for 10 years showed good will to Israel and proved to the international community they wanted peace and were willing to do some West Bank land swaps etc. that's a far better strategy than losing war after war and crying about it then starting another one
>>540046598>>540046537SchizobabbleThe myth of the morally valid native palestine… is dead. Besides you automatically deny australia, canada, and the USA if you believe that shit.
>>540046557>apartheid bad but the people who speak out about it are worseYou're fooling nobody, chaim
>>540046557Where do you attribute any blame to the Palestinians for the outcome of the 1967 war? They had fuck all to do with anything.
>>540046692I don't subscribe to universal ethics, they're for faggots
>>540046727>magic genetic ties matter for this land but not this land>why? because i hate jewsI just called ICE. Enjoy third country deportation. Muslims lost recently conquered territory. Deal with it.
>>540046693Israel proper is not an apartheid state. The occupied West Bank is something resembling an apartheid state but what is Israel supposed to do with the West Bank? Just un-occupy it with no concessions or negotiated settlement?
>>540046718>the palestiniansNo such thingMake up a nation for a homeless camp next why dont you
>>540040916>land swapping fertile land for arid land>displacing even more Palestinians by trading away areas that are encroached on by Israeli terrorists>giving up land along the main roads, formalizing permanent Israeli military checkpoints on traffic through the West Bank in areas A, B and C>letting Israel continue its naval blockade of the Gaza Strip>letting Israel continue its strict controls of borders with Egypt and Jordan>denying the right of return of the stateless Palestinians in Jordan, Lebanon and Syria - even if they wanted to move to Palestinian territoriesamazing deal 10/10
>>540046718>Where do you attribute any blame to the Palestinians for the outcome of the 1967 warLol yeah because West Bank was part of Jordan and Gaza was part of Egypt. Were any Arabs screaming and crying about Jordan and Egypt occupying the traditional Palestinian lands from 1949-1967? Nope.
>>5400467181967 war was between Israel, Egypt, Jordan and Syria.What are you even talking about moron?
>>540046777Look nigger, I'm just refuting YOUR justifications. I never claimed to believe in universal ethics. Idk why you keep talking to me like I did, maybe you're just fucking stupid. Drop the act. Own it. You belive the land is yours because you're a kike. All this pseudo history you're using to justify it is a smoke and mirrors show for the goyim who might buy it
>>540046824>war is over. you lose. here’s the new map>NOOOO ISLAM SAYS THE LAND MUST NOT BELONG TO JEWS IT BELONGS TO MUSLIMS BECAUSE OUR PROPHET IS RIGHT! WE CAN NOT LIVE WITH JEWS! WE MUST KILL JEWS! ALLAAAAAAAANote: Your prophet got sodomized by an indian and cried in his boyfriends lap.
>>540046899The political situation of the Palestinians right now is a result of a war in which they had little to no participation I thought that would have been obvious.
>>540041039i do not care for muslims
>>540046928>the foreskin eating demon I made up gave the land to meeee so fuck your legal deed to your land, my terrorism is foreskin demon approved
>>540046912>jews never existed because i hate them>who cares if they follow the religion of israel and judah>and maintained half their DNA over thousands of years>their religion predates islam by 900 years according to antisemitic pseudohistory so palestine belongs to islamYour position is incoherent. Muslims lost territory. Cry more. I hope bibi criminalizes islam
>>540047023It was britain’s legal deed. They gave it to the jews. Not muslims.
>>540047031>>540044678
>>540047056No, they had deeds from the ottomans, lie better
>>540046969>The political situation of the Palestinians right now No the political situation of the Palestinians right now is a result of them rejecting the Clinton deal which nearly mirrored the Westbank and Gaza borders of the 1967 war with a few minor tweaks so you literally dont have an argument with the whole 6-day-war bullshit because that war barely moved any borders of Palestinian territory as it had stood since the 1948 war, it only switched ownership from arabs to israeli.The fact that the Palestinians rejected the Clinton parameters is an argument you simply cannot comprehend but also cannot escape if you want to be honest and debate in good faith. It is something you're going to have to deal with and try to rationalize, which you cant, because Palestinians rejecting it was irrational and based on the romanticized idea that they will get everything back by the will of allah, and NOW they are where they are.
>>540047123No the ottomans were defeated and had no claims
>>540047219>goy, it's just unrealistic to want your land you have a legal deed to back, just accept these scraps or you're actually the bad guy hereThis is why killing kikes in any context is automatically self-defense
>>540041192>>540041195>If Israel bad, then goy go back to England/Europe We're talking about YOU Jews, not us. Fuck off with your whataboutism deflection. You could be 100% correct with all your hypocrisy arguments and it doesn't change the fact that you're kikes, you're in the wrong, you're stealing land, and you all need to be expelled and killed. It changes nothing and we're not getting distracted by your red herrings. You're not gonna make me ease off on yelling at Jews by trying to make me defensive over America. But just to address your yid bitch arguments anyway, cuz I can, America is already decolonized. Whites are no longer in power and we're no longer the majority in the youth. Natives have reservations and their own state entities. Whites have been thoroughly punished, persecuted, and expelled from running our own former countries. So even that gay argument doesn't work. You have nothing to stand on. You're Jews and you need to get out of Palestine. (There are sewer covers with "Government of Palestine" on them from the 1930s, and the Second Temple never even existed - you're all praying to a Roman horse stable, lmao)
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>>540047316You a sort of cry bully
>>540047316Again, they lost the war and should have salvaged what they could. They're not the only people who has had to face this situation but they pretend like they are.But they are the only people who have acted like they have more power than they actually do to make demands.
>>540047313>look goy, we dislodged your imperial master, your land is ours nowThis is why killing kikes in any context is automatically self-defense
>>540047316How many deals did we break with native tribes? We broke two fort Laramie treaties with the Lakota. Should they start doing terrorist attacks in the year 2026?He's right, the Palestinian movement is a romantic movement that's not based in reality that has totally unobtainable goals, and that loses ground in every war.
>>540047392>"war">terrorists killing civilians because their made up foreskin eating demon told them it's ok actually This is why killing kikes in any context is automatically self-defense
>>540047372>Natives have reservations and their own state entities.Palestinians can have their own state, not reservations, if they stop being retarded>w...we're not white anymore!!!!I wasn't aware blacks and mestizos are the native people of the Americas
>>540047382Not really able to consider that a bingo without at least "kike" and possibly "jeet"
>>540047219The Clinton deal is one of many deals that's allegedly meant to rectify the situation of the Palestinians as a result to Israel's occupation since 1967.
>>540041447I'm so glad you shithead niggers are taking over Israel's demographics and state power. It's better that bloodthirsty retards like Ben Gvir have power and media access than Ashkenazis who might come up with better strategies and plans to help and prolong Israel. Knowing you shitskins are taking over pretty much confirms your inevitable state destruction. It would have sucked if the competent ones of your race stayed in power, whew!
>>540047410I don't subscribe to universal ethics, they're for faggots
>>540041260Still missing the point like a tard
>>540047478I'm not even appealing to a universal ethic. I'm appealing to the utility of a side to continue a military conflict when it actually degrades their position. It would be one thing if Palestine was in a position to conquer Israel and they just had to fight harder. That's just not the case. The more they fight the more they lose, the less leverage they have for a negotiation, and the less the international community can realistically pressure Israel into giving back to Palestine
>>540041998>turned israel into a paraiah state in the span of a yearWhats the point of Israel when their nation will eventually collapse under the weight of orthodox jews and ppssible future embargos? Right wingers like leftists are fucking retarded and can only destroy, never build.
Time to wrap this one up and archive it ,jannies. It's becoming tautological from all sides.
>>540040916arabs are fucking retarded.
>>540042192Bro you're retarded. If Israel was able to win against 8 Arab countries with the shittiest weapons known to mankind, what makes you think that Hezbollah and Hamas will win against Israel in their current state with the strongest air force and top 3 ground forces in the middle east?
>>540047572I don't think either of those outcomes are likely . Which current governments in the world do you like ? Which countries have bright future.
>>540047600H&H are both basically finished so I guess it's just Iran left for the moment
>>540047640Whatever country you are not from, memeflag.
>>540047474What exactly is your argument? Do you even have one?The 1967 didnt change any borders, it only switched ownership from Arab to Israeli. Golan Heights was the only border change and that wasnt Palestine.And again, you refuse to confront the fact that the Clinton offer was a good deal considering the fact that the Palestinians had been a completely defeated people since 1948, annexed by Egypt and Jordan (again, 1967 war merely switched owners and nothing more).Do you even know what happened during the negoations with Clinton? Arafat pretty much walked out. He walked out because he knew it was a good deal, but if he accepted it then his people would string him by his feet like Mussolini. Hell even the Israeli PM Rabin was murdered by Israeli nationalists because it was a good deal for the Palestinians. Arafat rejected the deal because if he had accepted it, then Palestinians would lose the entire "from the river to the sea" larping bullshit. They would lose the right to return bullshit argument (which has never been applied on any other people in history that had to leave their homes).Face is retard, the Palestinians didnt want a palestinian state unless they could have ALL of it back. They are their own worst enemy. They act like professional victims because they cant accept the outcome of the 1948 war. They act like they are the only ones who has ever fought and lost. They were given a state on a platter and said no. Why the fuck should I even engage with them? Why should you?
>>540047702The Arabs had a chance back when Soviet backing existed. Today, the only enemies surrounding Israel are the H&H fanatics (both nearly genocided and begging for a ceasefire).Jordan, Syria, Egypt and Lebanon have all moved on to do better things than to die for Palestinians. Seems like the only retards left who are willing to die for them are the Shias in Lebanon, and they're getting exterminated for it.
>>540041508Then jews can kindly shut the fuck up about European "colonization".We didn't even genocide people like the Jews have. We colonized almost completely EMPTY LAND while the natives in the New World were in their death throes from over a century of pestilence that began BEFORE Europeans showed up.Europeans have been the best thing to happen to every race on this planet, but especially to the 3rd world races that cannot construct their own civilizations.
>>540041325Hey the khazars are azerbaijanis for the most part that got raped by my people and stole some genes from slavcucks and are actually warrior like, these kikes in israel can't even genocide properly and are not the same.I refuse to believe all ashkenazi kikes are all related to khazars through king bulan because that niggas brutality rivaled timur and that khaganate buckbroke everyone.
>>540040916Palestine is ruled by fanatic muslims that wanted to annex entire levant and parts of Egypt. Last century they rejected every diplomatic meeting and then aligned themselves against everybody with natural results: they lost.
>>540047994Thays bevause Palestine claimed parts of Syria and Egypt belonged to them and were preparing military action but after ww2 happened Palestine govt lost all its support and could not find bodies to fill uniforms
>>540041560>So what are they? Turkic people?Where the fuck does this meme even come from?The smallest part of them that are pechenegg rape babies are so diluted and most of the are hohol ukrops and serbs lol
>>540048482Honestly the sandniggers need to be ruled over by the fake turks again, their best bet is ottoman v2 electric bugaloo desu
>>540048524Funny thing is that the Assad regime was the only regime in the middle east that was somewhat supportive of the Palestinian cause even though it went against his country's interests. Do you know how the Palestinians repaid his magnanimity? By declaring their support for the rebels. Shias and Alawites are the biggest retards to ever exist lmao.
>>540041039Mudslime shits from Palestine don't have any home land and neither do israeli kikes.
>>540040916> Trusting jews
>>540047804The Clinton deal gave them no military, no roads, no comms, no water access, no guarantees against settlers, nothing. It would have turned Palestine in the only legalised Indian reserve in the world.. in fucking 1995. Come the fuck on
>>540041195The americas were 99% uninhabited, retard
>>540048942And having seen how israel behaves, it's obvious they would've broken the treaty and taken more land anyway.There's literally no point negotiating with jews. Every single time you see some kind of negotiation by jews they are just using it to buy time to stab you in the back. Contracts don't matter to them, agreements don't matter to them. They are incapable of respecting anything of the sort, they struggle to do it even between jews, let alone between jews and humans.
>>540046803They're totally apartheid. Israel defacto goes from Gaza to Southern Lebanon, including the West Bank, yet about 10 million Palestinians can't get Israeli citizenship, now or never. > What are we supposed to do, we are forced to apartheid themEither you give them citizenship or you fuck off. Hitler was too forced to put you into ovens I guess, arguing with you is pointless
>>540049500Of course the french flag demands everyone kneel to islam
>>540049500>Israel is apartheidThey aren't. Israel proper is not apartheid. Are you telling me in an active war people in occupied territories get voting rights? Israel annexed Golan and those people have full rights. If Israel ever moves to formally annex any occupied territory I guarantee you they will have full rights as well. That's a big reason Israel doesn't want to annex tons of land. >Either you give them citizenship or you fuck off.No... you reach a negotiated settlement. Not all land is occupied for annexation. You don't just unilaterally disengage with no concessions.
>>540049587> Israel properAsk ANY member of the Israeli cabinet or military to draw you the borders of Israel >>540049576Fuck you, rabbi
>>540049674>Crazy right wingers exist in Bibi's held hostage by ultra right cabinet and the militaryIsrael proper is the territory not being held in occupation. The only grey area would be some of the big settlements in the West Bank, especially just outside Jerusalem.Again, it's not Israel's fault they have to occupy land. Arabs should stop fighting at this point. Once Israel is forced to occupy the land some right wingers are going to try to take advantage of it. Arabs keep giving the most radical wing of Israeli society endless opportunities by being retards.
>>540041039muslims are not native to the levant
>>540049753>>Crazy right wingers exist in Bibi's held hostage by ultra right cabinet and the militaryNigger that government was democratically elected, that's the will of the jews. Yes they're crazy, yes they want Palestine, yes they want apartheid and cleanse them. Keep sucking off kikes, I'm sure it will be rewarding but I'm done arguing with you bad faith motherfuckers
>>540040916.Palestine is a corrupt shithole.
>>540049674No argument at all. You are being conquered by islam and leftist ideology so natural you support islamic ideology without even thinking
The Israelis just took Southern Lebanon and you're asking why the Palestinians didn't let Israel set them up?
>>540049904Palestine wanted to annex part of Syria and Egypt then aligned with losing side in ww2 then tried again military moves which lost them a war. Maybe if they wanted allies they shouldn't have declared war against so many countries
>>540049832>Nigger that government was democratically elected,Shas and RZP have 20/120 seats. The current cabinet is a result of parliamentary games those parties are very unpopular. And the coalition is going to get BTFO'd in November.
>>540050035Are you retarded? Every single proposal demanded Palestinians can make no further claims. What then happens? Palestinian grievances would fester and war would resort in Israel taking back the land!
>>540047462The point is your whataboutism doesn't even apply, not that anyone can engage with it. You can be totally right about America and all you want and it doesn't matter because we're talking about Israel and Jews, not a scapegoy from 200 years ago, lmao. I was only addressing it just to take your cope away from you for the sake of doing it. And furthermore, America has always been a murderous kike regime and I hold no loyalty or care for it as an institution, so your emotional blackmail attempts aren't going to do shit and I will continue to rant about kikes and "Israel." Nigger.
>>540050370palestine were the ones who attempted annexation of levant and northern Syria and Egypt then aligned with axis in ww2 who lost the war and then proceeded to blame everybody else which is why nobody supports them outside of western anti White leftists who just aee Israel Palestine as colonialist struggle which it obviously is not. Basic study of Palestine politics last 100 years shows them making retarded choices over and over and over again and blaming eveeyone else
>>540050479You have to be a kike, you're lying. Jews go, "there was no Palestinian state or kingdom!", and now you're saying they had some sort of expansionist ideals as a single unified Palestine entity, no dimwit. Palestinians might have been part of some Arab coalition, but they didn't have any imperialist ambitions beyond wanting their land.
>>540050574You are deflecting. You dont have to be jew to see palestine was fictitious creation by ottoman occupation forces. Palestine had ambitions and lost them. Tell me how gutting Serbian women and children for example was beneficial to their cause, or laying claims to large parts of north Syria and Egypt? "Imperialist" so I already know you are anti White leftist
>>540050417Your argument may work on Reddit but not in reality. Notice how I never brought up race, genetics, colonization, etc because it's totally irrelevant. Do you think Jews will go "OMG we Ashkenazis have European blood... time to dismantle the state we built for 80 years to make Reddit happy" never happening. >Jokes on you chud, I hate my country not an argument
>>540050636Palestinians are indigenous to the region. If you want to dispute this, we can setup a rule that applies to both groups. I can assure you, more Palestinians as a % will make the cutoff.
>>540041167>>540041195shut up kike
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>>540050708>Notice how I never brought up 1 post by this ID?
