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Why can't they defeat Ukraine?

Hard mode: no racism.
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>>540044764
A combination of incompetence, corruption, and apathy that have been ingrained in them culturally for the last century plus
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>>540044764
define defeat
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>>540044764
Because they got too cocky after stealing Crimea with zero resistance in 2014, they started sucking their own dick so much they actually believed their own "RUSSIA STRONK! LE UKRAINE WILL COLLAPSE WHEN OUR TANKS ENTER THE CAPITAL!" propaganda.
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>>540044764
Because they take less casualties and expend fewer resources by letting ukraine bleed itself out.
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>>540044764
Because of massive western support for ukraine and arms supply. Additionally, Russia only invaded Ukraine initially with 100k soldiers and only jumped to ~300k after a year or 2. Which is no where near enough troops.
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>>540044764
Because russia is shit at war and have only won if they had western allies on their side, they thought if they could replace westerners with brown shitholers it will be enough to win.
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They should have went in with 650k troops instead of the 175k they used. Also Boris did screw up their plan by a lot.
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>>540044764
Because they are corrupt and unorganized, it's a low trust society
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>>540044764
A combination of western money several times larger than Russian whole military spending to defend whole Russia, western weapons, western satellite and other intelligence, western, Mexican, etc mercenaries, western sanctions, western propaganda. Without all of that Ukraine would be taken in 3 days.
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>>540045068
that wasn't their plan going in. Why are you lying for russia anyway?
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>>540045387
Isn't pootin supposed to be some kind of spymaster?Didn't he know all of that going in?
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>>540045068
>they take less casualties
What causes this kind of brainrot?

>yesss the attacker in a war takes less casualties than the defender!
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>>540044764
They never wanted to defeat Ukraine
Just kill off a significant portion of their population
Damage infrastructure, deplete stockpile, kill and piss off their greatest men
All this for when the real war start and Russia is stuck using a few tanks, jets, and missile it has left
With the only men left to use them are frail old men, pacifists men who just do their equally important careers in peace, and child soldier
Both sides are doing it Ukraine does not want end it either
Since neither of their goals is for their survival
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Gulaghomo lost lol
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>>540044764
Too many wrong assumptions about how the war would play out. They didn't calculate hard enough before invading.
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>>540044764
Corruption survived the Soviet Union.
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>>540045533
If I were a real Ukrainian, I would rather prefer a 3-day SMO instead of 4 years of nightmare. But for NAFO it is an achievement to delay the Russian victory at a cost of many lives and destruction.
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>>540044764
the whole world is supporting ukraine
ukraine has received like 3x lend-leases. Just one was enough to defeat nazi germany
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>>540045206
>implying Puccia could provide enough logistics to give war donkeys and assault shovels to 650k mongols
>implying 1/3 of them would not deflect on day 1

There is a reason why Monke went this path.
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>>540044764
putin was fed a bunch of bullshit by his yes-man defense minister and generals. now is attempting to show strength at a time of weakness. will likely begin a mobilization in late september or early october after elections.
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>>540046634
Pipa barely even uses email. He does not use the internet. He has no fucking clue what is going on + his riches + being the leader of a powerful country. Just completely disconnected from EVERYTHING. The only way he gets any information is probably when his rich whore daughter calls daddy every weekend to let him know how her stay in Paris is. What a stupid boomer fuck.
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>>540044764
ukraine is a western proxy.
at the current stage, all nuclear powers can get rid of europe as a whole with a few bombs if they really want.
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>>540046332
Even with 10x lend lease Ukraine would still be at a disadvantage due to the Soviet stockpile that was gifted to Russia and how little Ukraine was given in exchange. Also the fact that Russia outnumbers Ukraine 5:1

Whenever I see a thirdie whining that there's some kind of limp equalizer in this war in the form of NATO help, he's basically admitting that Russia needs every advantage in the world to be successful. It should be insulting but you lack the brains to see it that way.
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>>540044962
When the war is over and one side surrenders/retreats etc.
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>>540044764
you can't use conga line and expect good results. There's no respect towards fellow soldier - a citizen of your own country. In normal nations, you take care about your countrymen; you know your own life, their life is the most expensive common and cannot be spent stupidly. In the russia though, carelessly sending out men to their deaths is seen as a good thing, because you "get rid off criminals and alcoholics". You could be a neurosurgeon, patriot going there to serve his duty to the country, but when you become soldier - you get labelled as the lowest scum of the society. The russian military does not have a goal of winning the war. The main goal is to fill up the pockets of corrupted officers, forcing people to die while they steal all of their money. Territory gained or lost is just a bonus.

Ukraine undoubtedly exerts a lot of effort, sure, but they wouldn't stand a chance against well organised, uncorrupted russia.
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>>540046124
When NATO invades you you will surrender?
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>>540044764
Russia is doing a pretty good job destroying NATO, EU and USA. I know it's too slow for double digit iq retards, but empires aren't dismantled in a year.
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>>540045068
same one cope
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>>540045533
It's the opposite. You have to be a very dense failure to be sent to an office like Putin did, lmao. Where USSR sent good agents? US. France. UK. China. That's the place where you would be sent if you are really good agent. Not... Fucking DDR, your own colony, controlled with army and even fucking Stasi. That's the place where you send retards to not fuck up anything, because Stasi does all of the hard work anyway. Imagine being an American spy and being sent to Hawaii as an "agent". It's a demotion.
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>>540045429
What part of my statement is a lie? You claim to know what the plan was?

>>540045565
Sorry, I'm capable of using both my eyeballs to see that Ukraine is kidnapping men off the street and Russia is not. Russia has artillery, air and drone superiority while constantly advancing and claiming ukrainian territory. If you look at this conflict from an unbiased perspective the conclusion is obvious.
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Sanctioned to hell and back, completely shut off from anything while their assets were stolen by eroniggers and usafaggots. They also are the ones facing new technology and finance from the combined west yet they still continue and will win.
Cope trannies, and cope Polish fucks you guys are the most cucked fucking retards I have ever seen
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>>540047699
>Sanctioned to hell and back
I was told by ziggers that the sanctions don't work though



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