Fox news more like Trump news. It lies. I want to watch the real news, CNN. Bet CNN reports the truth and says the stockpiles are growing larger than ever.

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>>540049027
DIGITS AND ONE GETS THROUGH AND HITS BIBI'S HOUSE!!!

>>540049164

Interceptor missiles cost 10x what ballistic missiles cost and there's limited production since they are created by western defence contractors separate from the government with logistics and manufacturing limitations. We don't have 0 environmental regulations, slave labour and government-ran companies to push out maximum production at the lowest price, corporate profit and laws preside in the west.

The only way for western powers to win a war is to quickly disable their enemy. Wars of attrition that require boots on the ground and war time economic measures pose more of a risk towards western stabilization within their own societies than any foreign nation.

US cities were burning due to race riots during covid. No foreign military could do that. That is why Russia and Iran are content with drawing out long conflicts, they don't think western economies are equipped for it.

>>540049027
The richest military in the entire world is low on ammo. Yea, please attack America and get vaporized. Its retard country bait to provoke an attack.

The usa has been about to run out of interceptor for 4 years now. You retards need to get some new material.

>>540049027
May I see an actual source?
>>540049566
>Interceptor missiles cost 10x what ballistic missiles cost
Source?
>and there's limited production
As are Short and Medium Range Ballistic Missiles, dipshit.

>>540049027
If Fox news are saying it this is just a strategy.

>>540049027
Ok .. Since when wars were about interceptions .. And not killing your enemy

Does this mean Iran will stop being pussies and start directly striking against the Israeli terror regime? Or will jews just buy interceptors directly from China instead of from the MIC which outsourced all nationally critical manufacturing to China

>>540049771
You’re retarded.

>>540049895
>Ok .. Since when wars were about interceptions
I’ll take this is official Israeli confirmation you no longer need American interceptors.

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>>540049964
How so? Explain in detail how I'm being retarded, please. Just screaming, "durrrrrrr you is retard" isn't a refutation, nor an argument against my points; it just shows you're a seething NPC with the verbal IQ of a gerbil.

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>>540050029
The inbred kike isn't wrong. Come talk to me when the US runs out of B-2s, B-1bs, F-15s, F-35s, F/A-18 and JDAMS.

>>540049027
Why didn't the US have TENS OF THOUSANDS if it's such a critical component? No one has been able to answer.

>>540050121
In a hypothetical world where America had zero interceptors Iran could absolutely level the entire gulf infrastructure and destroy the worlds economy as well as level Israel even while at the same time America was going Dresden level on Iran.

>>540050142
Military contractors are highly corrupt and incompetent. They get budgeted billions of dollars and don't deliver.
The US production rate of THAAD missiles is like 5 per year. Not joking
China would be making 5 per minute

>>540050142
Because they're not. Not one Iranian missile can hit the mainland US, and when they do hit a US base on foreign land it damages some shitty tent or temporary shelter.

>>540049027
The US is a paper tiger

>>540050205
What the fuck. What happens if there's war or s sudden threat?

>>540050218
Ok, but as yhe OP shows this shit is not just for the homeland.

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>>540050204
>In a hypothetical world
Yeah, where unicorns shit icecream and fart sprinkles. Too bad we live in the real world, where Iran is a third world shithole ran by inbred arabs made of cardboard.

>>540049164
Only in Opposite World lol

>>540050279
>third world shithole ran by inbred arabs
Lmao retard you're losing to them

>>540050273
There isn't one. This equipment isn't even supposed to work, it's supposed to look impressive and cost a lot for the cold war dickwaving contest.

Yeah like we shouldn't even be producing tanks or fighter planes anymore, it's totally antiquated technology that's not relevant anymore. Yet these defense contractors get billion dollar budgets that last for like 50 years. It's impossible to defund them since they're lobbyists too.

>>540050121
you cant use jdams without interceptors efficiently

without air defence you need to move bases further away from iran, it increases time and reduces usefull load

btw iran was already able to destroy few f-35 far away from its territory

there is no frontline and iranian forces dont hold stationary positions so bombing them from such distance becomes less and less efficient, they can just hide in bunkers lol

>>540050273
>Ok, but as yhe OP shows this shit is not just for the homeland.
Hence the limited number of interceptors bought by the US per year... If the US homeland was directly at threat of being hit by mass spams of MRBM, eMRBM, IRBM, et, the US would've actually invested in production facilities and multiyear 1000+/year orders. US defense companies aren't going to invest the needed billions of dollars to expand production facilities time to procure, design, and build those facilities, nor hire, train, and retain a workforce for said facilities if the US DoD only orders the bare minimum amount of interceptors on a year-to-year basis when the existing production facilities are able to easily meet production demand. Now that the US DoD are moving to multiyear buys and ordering 1000+, it makes sense to invest in production facilities to meet demand.

>>540049027
oopsie, gave too many to ukraine, thanks biden!

>>540050525
It wouldn't matter if we had double the inventory, Patriots can't intercept Iranian maneuvering warheads. And they're barely even using their newest stuff. All the zogbots don't realize for once we really are outgunned.

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>>540050347
>Lmao retard you're losing to them
We aren't losing at all. If the US wanted to, Iran would be a smoking crater by the end of the week.
>>540050427
>you cant use jdams without interceptors efficiently
Yes you can, as the US is doing now.
>without air defence you need to move bases further away from iran, it increases time and reduces usefull load
Good thing Iran doesn't have an airforce and the US has midair refueling planes that means US planes can carry max loadouts to unlimited distances...
>btw iran was already able to destroy few f-35 far away from its territory
No, they weren't
>there is no frontline
The frontline is wherever the US says it is, as Iran has no abilities to stop the US from flying wherever it wants inside Iran's borders.
>and iranian forces dont hold stationary positions
Doesn't mean they can hide from ISR and bombs.
>so bombing them from such distance becomes less and less efficient,
Distance is only around 10 miles above their heads. Not that far at all.
>they can just hide in bunkers lol
They can also get bombed in those bunkers lol.

>>540049027
I don't get why the US would let Iran to know that

>>540050629
>Iranian maneuvering warheads
Literally no such thing. Show me an Iranian ballistic missile with a warhead that maneuvers. No, I don't want a picture, I want actual video of this maneuvering warhead.

>>540050279
>>540050664
Ohhh shit, Pete Hegseth. I don’t know you posted here. Up to 2 pull ups yet bro?

>>540049895
War is not about either of them but about achieving political goals by combat.
Both of the things mentioned can be factors in whether you win a war or not

>>540050731
>I don’t know you posted here.
Shitskin inbred, learn English.

>>540050664
>We aren't losing at all. If the US wanted to, Iran would be a smoking crater by the end of the week.
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAAHAHAHHAHAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>540050664
Then good luck winning with oil prices around 150-200 usd/barrel

iran lost a bit more than 2k military personnel, most of that loses occured in the start of the war due to surprise effect

tiran already mobilized more than 1 mln people, war started in february, today is august

they didi destroy your planes in jordan, there was a satelite image from russian and chinese sources

>>540050664
>If the US wanted to, Iran would be a smoking crater by the end of the week.
So why don't we do it?

>>540050774
I will when you get above a room temperature IQ Pete. You’re losing this war.

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>>540050846
You know it's the truth. Even Iran knows it.
>>540050856
>Then good luck winning with oil prices around 150-200 usd/barrel
Yeah, two more weeks.
>iran lost a bit more than 2k military personnel, most of that loses occured in the start of the war due to surprise effect
Who told you that Iran? lol lmao even.
>tiran already mobilized more than 1 mln people
Iran can't even feed, water, or pay 1 million people/ GTFO of here with that obvious bullshit.
>war started in february, today is august
And? If the US did what it should've done and relentlessly bombed the shit out of Iran 24/7 until nothing was left standing and nobody was moving you'd be here screaming about muh genocidal amerikkkikes. You'll claim anything as a win for Iran because you're desperate for them to win.
>they didi destroy your planes in jordan, there was a satelite image from russian and chinese sources
Cool, not like we don't have literal hundred more where those came from, huh?
>>540050865
Because for some reason Trump doesn't want to punish the Iranian citizens for the sins of their non-elected leaders, retard. ME, I wouldn't give a shit and every shitskin inbred would be marked for death. Kikes too.

>OP thinks the lugenpresse has an accurate count of our munition stockpiles they are just allowed broadcast to the world for the benefit of our enemies
OP is a retarded niggerfaggot prove me wrong.

>>540050846
This retard mistakes mercy for weakness.

>>540051091
>inbred shitskin talking about IQ.
Mohammed, you have an average IQ of 70. Which is why you had to run to a White country to be taken care of by the superior White man. Even you know you're a worthless inbred subhuman.

>>540049027
Anyone who believes they would share this information on fox news is extremely low iq

>>540051158
You can get relatively accurate outputs of many weapons and military assets and procurement deals are often made public. You also can get relatively accurate data in how many are sold or moved somewhere and how many are used for interception.
You may be a bit off in the end but it wont be in the thousands

>>540051115
2k is realistic numbers, of course you can claim anything since they it is impossible to check, its still a statistical error in their armed forces (less than 0.2%)

without fixed frontline military can just hide in shelters, so your strikes dont do damage

picture is not impressive, thats cold war boomer shit, maybe f-18 is still ok, it can do frontline bombing

f-16 is total garbage, tomahawk is same cold war era weapon, cruise missiles are outdated

future belongs to big dakka - glide bombs, ballistic, hyperson and huge number of cheap drones

iran is depleting your air defence near their borders to increase cost of payload deliver (actual dakka) and it works

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>>540049027
Iran can send a low quality basically fake drone in the general direction of Israel and force USAF to use several SAMs at several million apiece.

Its almost unfair.

>>540049027
>just two more weeks and iran will win.
How many missiles they got left?
Shitskin.

>>540049964
You're gay and retarded

>>540051266
But this is muttmerica we're talking about here, where no competent leadership, secrecy, or cunning exists. And amerilards deserve it for being low IQ and electing low IQ people anyway

>>540050204
Then why haven't they?
If iran is so strong why haven't they just destroyed Israel already?
We're fucking waiting

>>540051326
I work for missile production at raytheon's RTX facility in Tucson.
the us military only orders what is needed to be ordered, much like you only fill your car's fuel tank with what it needs, you aren't always buying 500 extra liters for no reason every time.

this board is simply less than a shadow of its former self, and you should all feel bad for believing everything that gets posted

>>540050205
Chink dick sucking is probably thr most shameful shilling we see on here.
The chinks replaced their icbm fuel with sea water in a massive corruption scandal.
We dont have near that level of corruption.
All commies ever do is steal and lie.

>>540051185
You’re Indian aren’t you. I should have guessed earlier.

>>540050273
What do you imagine to be the best case scenario for iran?
Let's say we do run out of interceptors.
What do you think happens then?

>>540051522
Yeah no shit. I have a basic picture on how military industrial complex stuff works.
Fact is that if they only order so much you can get a rough estimate on how much they have currently.

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>>540051352
>2k is realistic numbers, of course you can claim anything since they it is impossible to check, its still a statistical error in their armed forces (less than 0.2%)
Says Iran.
>without fixed frontline military can just hide in shelters, so your strikes dont do damage
They can hide in shelters all they want. Doesn't stop a JDAM from slamming through the roof of that shelter, now, does it?
>picture is not impressive, thats cold war boomer shit, maybe f-18 is still ok, it can do frontline bombing
That Cold War shit is most advanced and sophisticated than anything Iran, Russia, or China can produce - even now.
>f-16 is total garbage
Funny how those totally garbage F-16s ran SEAD/DEAD for the B-2s that destroyed Iran's nuclear enrichment sites, huh? If they're shit, what does that say about Iran that they couldn't stop them from flying straight into Iran and doing whatever they pleased?
>tomahawk is same cold war era weapon, cruise missiles are outdated
And yet, Iran can't stop them.
>future belongs to big dakka - glide bombs, ballistic, hyperson and huge number of cheap drones
Good thing the US has all that in more numbers and better quality than any other military n earth, huh?
>iran is depleting your air defence near their borders to increase cost of payload deliver (actual dakka) and it works
Iran isn't depleting shit. They're desperately attacking their muslims neighbors in hopes that they turn their backs on the US. That's there only plan as they know they can't actually do shit to the US to get them to stop. So far, it hasn't worked at all, and it's just making everyone hate Iran more - to the point they'll turn a blind eye when the US really unleashes hell on them.

>>540050629
You people are actual fucking traitors with your filthy lies and I hope you actually get rounded up and shot.
If youre right and this war takes a much worse turn, we might get desperate enough that I get my wish.

>>540051632
the most I can legally say in public is our facility can quadruple the monthly output with ease without any increase in machinery or workforce, and we plan to 10x by mid 2027.
this is public knowledge going by the MIC procurement budget sheets.

>>540051481
>why hasn’t Iran kicked off the Samson option.
Browns have lowered the iq of this board so much it’s ridiculous. Iran are playing a war of attrition slowly bleeding US treasure and sword, holding a gun to the global economy and the threat of the end of Trump’s presidency at the mid terms. If you can’t just purely look at how Trump has behaved over a last several months to clearly see Iran is winning than you should just kys.

>>540051522
>you should all feel bad for believing everything that gets posted
>also i work at Raytheon RTX in Tucson, for realz bro
>also my dad works at Nintendo

shut up nigger

>>540049566
I saw a docu recently about how the Shahed's are made, why they're so ridiculously cheap and hard to detect, just like the launchers.
There's no way in hell Patriot systems are an adequate defense against this. You would need to deploy AA systems like the Mantis or Gepard or the CIWS every 1.5 - 2 miles or so along the border.. that's 300 - 400 systems just for Israel alone.
You'd get one Gepard for less than a single Patriot missile btw., that's how overpriced this stuff is.

>>540051642
>warmonger still supports jew empire
you deserve everything that's happening inside usa

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>>540051642
Nobody despite some schizos are disputing that the US firepower is impressive and they have almost uncontested air superiority in Iran.
But iran striking bases and assets is more effective and dangerous than you think. And the US are not really doing the best to achieve their goal (stopping the nuclear program forever, stopping the Iran as a regional power, stopping their control over Hormuz, weakening the IRCG).

>>540051693
And what next, post my badges on the chance I slip up and divulge personal info, for your retarded accelerationist groyper nigger ass to try and cause me problems?

do the right thing
kill yourself

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>>540051545
Nope. Indians are disgusting sub-humans just like their arab cousins (you). I'm a blonde haired, blue eyed Aryan with 100% NW Euro DNA. Nice to out yourself as 100% inbred shitskin though. You're either an inbred shitskin, or a chinsect since sub-human poos live in your head rent free and you think everyone is a poo if they disagree with you. I don't think you're a chinsect, as at least the ones in Australia know English.

>>540051795
You're just a LARPer fishing for e-credz and everybody can see right through it Tyrone

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>>540051803
>I'm a blonde haired, blue eyed Aryan with 100% NW Euro DNA

>>540051352
You are the /k/ guys who have to go here to talk about logistics speculations. Because your jannies won't let you.

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>>540049583
Silence. Just give Mr Hegseth that $1.5T of taxpayer money he was asking for in congress the other day. America and israel need your money anon!

>>540049027
Because they would know that information, right? That stuff is, quite literally, by any and every metric, not public knowledge, nor would it be allowed to be reported unless the government publishes it itself- which they have no reason to.

>>540051845
Listen to me.
Grab your nearest gun, blow your fuckin head off.

>>540051686
A hostage is useless if you shoot it idiot.
Threatening to close the strait was always a more useful bargaining tool than actually doing it.
The longer this goes on the more the world switches to alternatives.
The markets are already reflecting this.
It sucks for the countries in the region that depend on oil sales, but thats a regional issue, not a global one.
Meanwhile iran's economy is in free fall and their currency is becoming worthless without oil sales.
Inflation in america is like 3%, in iran its 30%.
That was before the war started.
The status quo is far worse for them than us.

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>>540051686
>Iran are playing a war of attrition slowly bleeding US treasure and sword,
>A third world shithole that has 1000% inflation, can't feed themselves, and about to run out of drinking water playing a war of attrition with sole superpower on earth with the biggest economy and largest high tech manufacturing abilities in recorded history.
Are you actually retarded?
>Browns have lowered the iq of this board so much it’s ridiculous.
Yeah, and you're one of the low IQ inbred shit colored mutants that did it and continue to do it.

>>540051642
logic tells, homussy is closed, they collect the toll, 6 months passed

f-16 was used in ukraine, it unsuitable for modern war, after few loses role is reduced to hunt slow moving drones in deep rare

it is an old 1 engine plane with small take-off mass, the further it is from front the less it can deliver, and there is no front or fixed position with concentration of forces

500 pounds/230 kg jdam does not do much damage to reinforced conrete, tomahawk is slow moving target that costs 2-4 mln usd and delivers 1,000 pounds/450kg

cruise missile is easy to intercept, but you can contonue using it LOL good luck as i have told

the longer war is going the more iranian army learns, atm you already cant do any significant damage to them using air strikes, they can hit your assets with missiles and drones

Good luck!

>>540051684
>can quadruple the monthly output with ease
Yes that may be and is believable. However these missiles may be produced in the future and are not part of the calculated number here.
I work in the military sector here as well. Things take time and what can be done and what will be done and what is done are often far apart kek. Its all about getting government money

>>540051462
They got in because only midwits believe in open borders. And Israel sure as shit kill anyone smart.

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>>540049027
WTF how are those numbers not classified?

>>540049203
will never happen, retard. hashem takes care of him.

>>540051888
>impotent juvenile trash-talk
you must be 18 to post here, champ

>>540051924
F16 is unusable in Ukraine because neither side has air superiority. In Iran the US has air superiority

>>540049027
2000 missiles it not enough you need to build way more like 200.000 atleast.

>>540051885
>Look, you can blackmail our Donnie all you want but I'm telling you, we're running out of shit to bomb Iran with, so calm the fuck down and put those territorial pissings on the back burner unless you're gonna do what needs doing by yourself.
FOX is trying to create an exit ramp for trumpstein.

>>540049164
Even if it's a lie. Interceptors lost outpacing production is a real concern.

>>540049566
>win a war is to quickly
lol
no one wants that.
that doesn't make much money for billionaires.

we cant defend ourselves with just 2000 missiles are you all retarded. they build 50.000 amazon drones in 10 minutes and then you have 2000 missiles that you built over the course of 10 years?

this is some fuking bullshit and this needs to be improved drastically.

>>540051759
>you deserve everything that's happening inside usa
What's happening inside the US?
>>540051767
See: >>540051803 Not a kike, nor do I like kikes.
>>540051873
Seethe shitskin

we need missiles for ukraine and for israle because theyre both under attack. now its down to 700. theyre going to wait until its 0.

thats nice.

>>540052043
But if we increase production we might have to give young white men jobs! We can't do that! They have icky Amalekite cooties!

>>540049027
I sense an increase in training accidents in the middle east in the up coming weeks.

>>540050736
War can be purely about taking resources like water in this desert

when i see that there are only 700 missiles i get a little scared. why do you have 20 carriers but just a tiny amount of missiles.

are you waiting for germany to invent new flak?
this wont work because we build 10 flak tanks/year. fageta bout it. you cant make war with this or defend anything.

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>>540049027
wow i love giving money to jews now

>>540051924
>logic tells, homussy is closed, they collect the toll, 6 months passed
They aren't collecting any toll. Hell, they can't even get ships in to sell their oil because big daddy US says no.
>f-16 was used in ukraine, it unsuitable for modern war,
Is that why it shot down a Russian SU-35? Russia's most advanced fighter.
>after few loses role is reduced to hunt slow moving drones in deep rare
It's rear, retard, and the F-16 with 1992 electronics just shot down Russia's most advanced fighter, the SU-35. Furthermore, F-16 Wild Weasels flew directly into Iran with B-2s and Iran couldn't do shit about them. They seriously need to cut you Pakistanis off from Western internet.

>>540051972
it is unsuitable because it is outdated

for example su-34 has much higher load than f-15/16/18, much stronger frame , maneurability and speed, its almost twice bigger than f-16

f-16 is not used in any mission except drone hunt

SU-34 strikes deliver over 9000 glide bombs per month (with much bigger dakka), its much more per month than usa used during 6 months of whole iranian war

they are doing it from medium range to minimize the cost

of cource we can assume there is a "discount" in iran due to quality of their concentere, but still its not that big

>>540052127
You need rare earths from China in order to produce those interceptors and China is no longer allowing to export that shit so how are you gonna rebuild your arsenal?

>>540049583
You”re thinking of it backwards. You are in no position to play world police anymore. You have entered the first state of collapse. USA will not exist in its current form in 20-30 years. All empires fall, and it follows the same pattern
>weakened military
>massimmigration

the skynex system is very nice but it can be destroyed also and we dont have many of it.
its so expensive and takes very long to build.

its not like americans would start being smart and support us in building more of this.
they sit there and do nothing, basically.

One more round of failed peace talks followed by hostilities resuming and China will be in the perfect position to do the funniest thing

>>540052187
is hormussy open or closed?

just Y or N

there are no loses among su-35, there are only a dozen of loses among su-34 during whole war, mostly in the start of the war when pilots were getting experience

with time people learn how to deal with all sorts of air defence and there are no recorded loses of su-34 in last 2 years

there are also recorded facts when su-34 (bomber) avoids 3 patriot missiles, then patriot launcher is destroyed by su-35

>>540052194
It is perfectly suitable for what it is currently doing in Ukraine and Iran.
But yeah its a bit outdated and will be replaced

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>>540052238
Go back to Haiti, you ugly worthless shit loving nigger.

>>540050865
>So why don't we do it?
Because you just don't want to, ok?

its too much random bullshit. the west is divided because of the fuking drumpfretard. it should be an army of the entire west and ONLY the best equipment gets build en masse.

>>540052301
>is hormussy open or closed?
>hormussy
What kind of cucked ass literal faggot language is that? Go back to leftypol you third world troon.

>>540052307
Your 300 years are up and you wasted them all.

>>540052306
Then good luck

Will it be replaced by another wunderwaffe before or after homussy is opened?

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>>540052307
You got it backwards, niggers support US.

>>540052361
i am asking you of strait of Hormuz is opened or closed

i checked before posting here, its closed and controlled by iran, they collect the toll

any ship that does not follow the rule gets hit

>>540052301
you cant defend yourself against skynex for example you just get shot down instantly and explode.

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>>540052367
Yeah, sure, two more weeks and the US will fall, you will become a human instead of a Haitian nigger with a scat fetish, and Russia will finally make it to Kiev.

>>540051767
>one, no-argument reply
every time

>>540052374
Nigger i hate these games where you have to take sides and memes and if you try to talk rationally you are automatically a person on the opposing team schizophrenia on this board.
What i am saying has nothing to do with Hormuz, what I am saying is that the F16 can be an adequate fighter still and is still used effectively both in Iran and Ukraine

>>540050629
So you're telling me iranian missiles are more advanced than russian ones? Because patriots worked fine in ukraine.

there is no defense against flak with timed explosives that an ai figures out at the correct milisecond when to explode. they only defense is to destroy it before it starts shooting.

>>540052394
xD, I'm not even bothering with your alcoholic ass. You're worthless to talk to and do nothing but lie.
>>540052410
>i am asking you of strait of Hormuz is opened or closed
Its closed for Iran.
>i checked before posting here, its closed and controlled by iran, they collect the toll
Show me one ship paying a toll to Iran. And no, a Paki on twatter shilling for Iran isn't proof.
>any ship that does not follow the rule gets hit
HMM. Funny how they can't hit the US Navy ships blockading Iranian ships from entering or leaving Iranian waters. Funny...

>>540052433
you can, you shoot it and destroy

all wunderwaffe farms aura only until it enters the battle, its not debunked only because its not used anywhere except parades

highly likely oil-arabs know it, otherwise they would have already bought it

in combat you will have jet drone (not even missile) or midrange drone flying on top of (or very low) it then diving deep on 90* and it will be done

atm strait of Hormuz is closed

>>540049027
>US RUNNING OUT OF INTERCEPTORS
Can someone explain this retardation? The west had more than four years to setup a solid production line. What makes this things take forever to produce?
I get these were designed in the cold war for low volume usage but it still doesn't make sense to me why they can't just pump out a couple 100 thousand of these.

>>540052301
>there are no loses among su-35
There most certainly are
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aviation_shootdowns_and_accidents_during_the_Russo-Ukrainian_war

>>540051605
you continue getting the shit blown out of you across the gulf. Arab states lose all confidence in you and America's decline as the hegemonic power in the middle east finally comes to fruition ( best outcome for the world ). Fucking yanks have ruined everything since the first illegal gulf war. you deserved 9/11 and deserve another one.

they have one of the skynex systems in ukraine and its just 3 turrets. they tried to topple this 2 weeks or so ago.

they cant do it. the skynex can not be destroyed by drones. its impossible. allmost anything that flies will be instantly destroyed even jets when they get in the 6km range.

they boasted about this but the only thing they could do is destroy one turret or so so they can fly AROUND it. there is no way for them to destroy the entire system no matter how many drones/jets whatever they send.

>>540052566
so its closed? Iranian crude oil continues to flow to China

all ships use the road proposed by iran, other passes are closed by mines and cheap drones

US navy escaped into indian ocean

thats all, rest is bullshit lol

>>540052581
How many F16 did the US lose in Iran?
You live in a world of memes, nobody claims it is a wunderwaffe
>atm strait of Hormuz is closed
Thats true and the us is being retarded

>>540052642
Sure thing, Suhkdeep Mohammed the inbred paki.

its not highlighted enough how good this system is. when you have a border with 100 skynex systems nothing will ever get through.

this thing can destroy 6 drones at a time with literally one shot. its all automatic targetting systems.

you can only imagine how many drones were send to destroy this. the ruxxians thought they can do it. the skynex is still operational in ukraine.

>>540052675
i did not count, atm loses are part of speculation, since both irainian and usa loses are statistical errors in comparison to total armed forces

it will be visible in 2 years, i dont think usa will accept defeat, usa runs of out interceptors, thats the only known fact lol

new price or oil and gas will be paid by euros, maybe usa is retarded in war but not in commerce

>>540052664
>so its closed?
Yes, for Iran.
>Iranian crude oil continues to flow to China
No, it doesn't. Which is why Chinese imports of crude are down 30-40%, and they've started to tap into their strategic oil reserves to make up the difference.
>all ships use the road proposed by iran
Ships traverse on water; a road is on land, retard.
>other passes are closed by mines and cheap drones
>US navy escaped into indian ocean
Proof?
>thats all, rest is bullshit lol
All you do is spew bullshit.

>>540052581
you dont know shit.

>>540052602
thats wikipedia "bullshit" without confirmation

btw there is not a single wreckage of su-34 in territory controlled by ukraine, so nafoids can "paint" any number, there are only around 10 confirmed cases during whole war

there are dozens of wreckage of american planes outside of their control, but that does not matter currently

>>540049027
They're not going to tell all their enemies their real numbers

>>540049027
>>540049027

>>540052832
>atm loses are part of speculation,
Only on the part of coping shitskins shilling for the IRGC like you.
>since both irainian and usa loses are statistical errors in comparison to total armed forces
Iran's armed forces are literally decimated, and it's not a statistical error - unless the margin of error is 75%+/-. Just more copium from a pakistani shitskin (you) that the IRGC uses like slave labor to shill for them online for free.

American regime and it's boss Zionist regime have no choice other than kneeling before great Persia.

>>540052902
>>540052883

i know that hormussy is closed, its fact, you cant deny it

also i know you will pay higher prices, its also fact, you cant deny it lol

rest is bullshit and damage control from nafo troons or /kopers

>>540052675
>How many F16 did the US lose in Iran?
>You live in a world of memes, nobody claims it is a wunderwaffe
yeah but this is not the same America of even 20 years ago who destroyed iraw and Afghanistan. they are even bigger cowards today with even lower tolerance for losses. this is why no one is afraid of them anymore. they are just a big bully who shit themselves whenever anyone stands up to them like the IRGC is doing today. go and suck of americans somewhere else Hans you autistic kraut spaz.

>>540052832
The US lost zero F16 over Iran. Iran also never claimed to have shot any down.

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>>540052583
Basically its about logistics, for example manufacturer of the PAC-3 missile works with over 400 suppliers, a bottleneck at any one supplier can obviously halt production for the entire system. Another big bottleneck is critical components, for example rocket motors, small seeker production lines and then lastly rare earth minerals come from many different countries. I'd say the supply chain is the major issue but inteceptors are also complicated to manufacture. Its not that easy to hit a missile moving thousands of kilometers an hour and potentially moving hundred kilometers away from you, its hard to make this shit

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>>540052920
>thats wikipedia "bullshit" without confirmation
Too bad Fighterbomber already confirmed it.

>>540053037
>go and suck of americans somewhere else Hans you autistic kraut spaz.
Are people here unable to actually read or not take any diverging opinion as a proof that the other person is fully in support of the strawman of their opposing viewpoint?

>>540052477
russia uses cheap ass cruise missiles, have patriots intercepted any oreshniks?

>>540049027
>HURRY! Get the boomers to agree to absurd spending bills for our jewish best (((ally))).
>war makes jews rich. Chop chop

>>540053095
yes, thats powerpoint bullshit without proofs lol

>>540053073
they lost other places instead, as i have told f-16 is outdated and cant be used for anything, thats why his blue picture was not impressive

Hormussy is closed

>>540052989
i am much whiter than you, mr mutt golem lol

>>540052991
>i know that hormussy is closed, its fact, you cant deny it
I've told you it is close for Iran. I never denied it.
>also i know you will pay higher prices, its also fact, you cant deny it lol
The price increase is an actual statistical anomaly.
>rest is bullshit and damage control from nafo troons or /kopers
>bunkertroon shitskin calling other troons as he uses the word hormussy like a cucked faggot.
Yeah...
>>540053037
You tell him, Suhkdeep Mohammed the poo whose coward family converted to Islam instead of fighting off the arab invaders! You come from a linage of literal cucked cowards that would rather lay down and accept their invaders instead of fight.

>>540050121
>Come talk to me when the US runs out of B-2s, B-1bs, F-15s, F-35s, F/A-18 and JDAMS.
You lost all your bases in the region. From where will you launch those rust buckets? Do you still have enough air refueling planes left to do long distance runs? Also, your JDAMS do jack shit against the Iranian military targets.
Your military is the world's most expensive paper tiger.

>>540053246
Even zog media tells its closed, you still deny it

All ships use rout proposed by iran and pay the toll, they decide who can pass and who cant

Denying reality is a first step to total collapse

anyway, good luck winning, we need to check in 2 more weeks

>>540053091
>Basically its about logistics
No, it's literally about money. No company on earth is going to invest billions of dollars on new production facilities and lines, and scout, hire, train, and retain the workforce needed to man those facilities and lines if orders aren't coming in to make that expansion profitable. Furthermore, if those companies are only getting orders once per year, and don't have any idea what next year's order amount will be, again, they'll be extremely hesitant to invest in expanding production and the staff needed to facilitate it. I've already laid out exactly what the problem was here: >>540050488
>>540053206
>yes, thats powerpoint bullshit without proofs lol
Pure unadulterated shitskin cope.
>i am much whiter than you, mr mutt golem lol
No you aren't you shit colored mutant sub-human (>>540051803).The hubris of you shit colored mutant animals...

>>540052007
ah yes, the nebulous blackmail.

>>540053246
your mad king declared victory 4 months ago. it's over for America. You have proven yourselves to be an unreliable ally, you're weak cowards with no stomach for a real fight. you can't even keep the strait of homuz open. you're a joke same with your fat demented fuck of a president. The whole world hates you. These are the twilight years of the American empire and I get to watch it in real time.

>>540053206
> f-16 is outdated and cant be used for anything
It still is used for things

>>540053396
>Even zog media tells its closed, you still deny it
Yeah, for Iran. Hence, China having to tap into their strategic reserves because they can't get the Iranian crude they usual rely on.
>All ships use rout proposed by iran and pay the toll
May I see all this toll money Iran supposedly collects?
>they decide who can pass and who cant
>Denying reality is a first step to total collapse
If that were the case the whole ME and Russia would have collapsed decades ago.
>anyway, good luck winning, we need to check in 2 more weeks
Yeah, by then the US will surely have collapsed this time, unlike the other 10 thousands times you've claimed it. Just two more weeks! Pray to Allah (Piss Be Upon Him) and I'm sure he'll answer you payers. Just remember: You'll know him by his shine bone;^)

>>540049583
Look at the news, you dumb nigger. Iran has been attacking the U.S. in the Middle East. It’s destroyed every base in the region. In the early days, it shot a missile up the ass of a base HQ in Kuwait and gave two U.S. general officers brain injuries. It ran the U.S. out of Iraq permanently. USN ships are staying far away due to fear of Iran.
Iran doesn’t need to be baited. What lil’ Donnie gonna do? Bomb more mountains that can be dug our in 24 hours? Kek.

>>540053559
>your mad king declared victory 4 months ago.
The US doesn't do kings, Abdul.
>it's over for America.
Yeah, yeah yeah. Two more weeks, I know. Been hearing it for 25 years.
>You have proven yourselves to be an unreliable ally,
Yeah, we need to be backstabbing inbred shitskin filth like you pakis, huh?
>you're weak cowards with no stomach for a real fight.
Paki, your people were poos too weak for a real fight and rolled over and converted to Islam so you didn't get your asses beat by the invading arabs. Don't you sub-human coward worms ever talk about others being cowards, you worthless fucking impotent parasite bum.
>you can't even keep the strait of homuz open.
We can keep it closed, though.
>you're a joke same with your fat demented fuck of a president.
Says the paki poo from a whole line of cowards that bent over and accepted islam instead of fight. You're a worthless sub-human coward the same colored as a morning shit. I literally do not give two shits what you think.
>The whole world hates you.
Nobody cares what some low IQ shit colored mutant sub-humans think of the US.
>These are the twilight years of the American empire and I get to watch it in real time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Two more weeks.

>>540049027
But who will protect The Ukraine??

>>540053839
>Another inbred paki memeflaggot
How original!

>>540053559
>>540053559
I've been watching America fall apart for the past few decades. Shit is decaying at an ever increasing rate. Hyperinflation, civil war, martial law. In that order. Sad really.

The war has been pretty much a net loss for everyone involved

DON'T WORRY, AMERICANS, your country is safe.

It just means that you can't protect your allies in the Middle East, Ukraine or Taiwan

Also, you can't use them all because you need them for your security too.

Soon there won't be interceptors for them. Maybe the Europeans can make some (Iris-T and others), but what if the Middle East request them? Will Ukraine become unprotected?

At the moment Russia makes 1400 Iskander missiles per year (used to be way, way less), and now is starting to produce 120 Banderol missiles per month (these are new cheap missiles that cost 150k to make, and soon will cost about 50k to make)... whereas a Patriot costs 3-4 millions and you can't produce them.

They also make 600 KH-101 per year, 500 Kalibr, infinite drones, 200 Kinzhal per year, unknown Zyrkons and Oreshniks, etc.


Remember not to touch China's ball, because if they supplied your enemies with missiles you would be toast.

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>>540054126
>At the moment Russia makes 1400 Iskander missiles per year
No they don't.
>and now is starting to produce 120 Banderol missiles per month
No they're not.
>(these are new cheap missiles that cost 150k to make
If that junk costs 150k to make they better get their money back.
>and soon will cost about 50k to make)
No it won't.
>whereas a Patriot costs 3-4 millions and you can't produce them.
They're being produced right now. WTF are you talking about?
>They also make 600 KH-101 per year
>500 Kalibr
No they don't.
>infinite drones
No they don't.
>200 Kinzhal per year
No they don't.
>unknown Zyrkons
Not many.
>Oreshniks, etc.
They've made a whole two of them, and they were worthless when used.

>>540053891
> malding and insults no serious arguments
American mediocrity at its best

>>540051756
why would i want to protect the jew state of israel? a second holocaust is needed for that scum at a minimum

>>540051964
as long as he is fed foreskins

>>540054313
>inbred shit colored mutant coward can't handle the truth.
Not my fault your whole genetic lineage are cowards, pakijeet.

>>540052187
>>>540052566
>>540053698
>MIGA faggot now wants to pretend that every ship taking the route close to Iran that isn't Iranian isn't paying the toll to save face
https://www.nbcnews.com/world/iran/irans-tehran-toll-booth-forces-tankers-pay-millions-leave-strait-hormu-rcna265258
Lloyd's list has confirmed multiple payments by ships passing through the Strait on the Iran side since March. But you keep sticking your head in the sand thinking the US is winning while your (((Greatest Ally))) Israel fucks you in the ass.

>>540054720
>Raanan said Lloyd’s List was aware of at least two ships that had made payment in Chinese yuan to cross the strait.
So, two chink ships paid Iran and that's somehow an own to the US, niggerjeet? lol lmao even.

>>540050279
And they're still winning

>>540055331
Yeah, which is why they're begging the US to stop the blockade. Totally winning, Abdul Mohammed bin rapejeet. Just two more weeks and the US will totally collapse along with the filthy kike state of Israel that for some reason Iran is afraid to strike.

>>540055516
lol 33 posts of jewish cock sucking, love it.

>>540049566
>muh environmental regulation
Private companies need at least a 60% graft overhead, the EPA is nothing in comparison. If you've ever worked at a government contractor you know how much money is completely wasted

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looks like iran has won the war completely, they have now full control of middle east

paper tiger trump got humilated, nobody fears usa any longer they are seen as weak as shit

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>>540057168
>If you don't suck inbred arab cock like me you're a kike!
Yeah...