>Even if an individual earned hi wealth justly through hard work and good choices, it should still be redistributed because the collective health of society is more important than the rights of the individual to amass/hoard extreme amounts of wealth Right-wingers will hate this argument because it is true. The collective matters more than the individual.You cannot have a society without the collective, but you can have a society without the single greedy individual.
>>540065216US infrastructure in shambles, guess who should pay?
>>540065216You're right. They should bring in a progressive income tax.
>>540065216And who will administrate that wealth? Is it the hecking party leaders or whatever kind of politicians who are famous for using public funds for private matters?
>>540065216Billionaires should be max taxed.
>>540065216it should be handled individually, we see jews amassing wealth and acting like dicks, and we dont likes that so we send them to gulag, no problem.
>>540065216~45% of americans pay $0 in fed income tax due to being poor as hell. the same ~45% will defend jewish billionaires with their dying breath. really makes you think.
>>540065216No. Because it creates more brown useless mouths to feed
>>540065216>the collective plays Fortnite, subscribes to pornhub and sends money to ai Chatbots. Leftists hate this argument
>>540065216That sounds interesting. Show your real flag and tell me how much wealth I'm entitled to.
>>540065553>No. Because it creates more brown useless mouths to feedimmigration and the absence of involuntary sterilization for browns is a policy choice.
>>540065216>>Even if an individual earned hi wealth justly through hard work and good choicesShow us the number of people this actually applies to and not CIA front man retard welfare niggers like Elon Musk and every other major corporation who has been put in place to control the markers and collect data on the population for the Zionist Occupied Government to enslave everyone like cattle.
>>540065709Pro-tip: I can count them on one hand. And that's being generous, I have no specific examples.
>>540065216you'll never convince them to accept this no matter how logical it is. they don't care because they are all greedy retards. Capitalism will persist until it starts cannibalizing the core institutions that made it successful. Socialism will take over and force the wealth from these people one way or another. most of them will be hanged or shot hopefully.
>>540065709>The reason other people are wealthy instead of me is a giant jewish CIA conspiracy against me.That's the only possible explanation. How much assets will anybody be allowed to have after you seize the means of production?
>>540065848>Socialism will take over and force the wealth from these peopleHow much wealth do you have now and how much do you suppose you'll get after socialism redistributes it fairly?
>>540065216the poor is everyone below 50%. make a new chart and I will consider your argument
>>540065216It should be redistributed to other workers. People who don't work should get nothing. People who can't find private jobs should be given government created jobs that produce essential goods.
>>540066056About tree fiddy
>>540066156how much do you make a year?
>>540065216You don't need much wealth to afford pretty much everything. Maybe 100k or so. The only exception is a house, which are very overpriced atm.>inb4 "since they don't need, its okay if I steal it"Yeah they don't, but neither do you. My point is to stop being envious and greedy.
>>540065216What is the incentive to work hard then? Im not going to work hard if you're just going to steal the compensation I get for it
>>540066491if you're part of the bottom 45% you don't work hard. >>540065546 and if you do pay taxes, you already work hard to have compensation taken from you via taxes. do you see how ridiculous your argument is?
>>540066491>he thinks wealthy people work hardkek
>>540066387About 19K that the IRS knows about and I don't pay taxes on.
>>540066626What would you consider "wealthy" and how much do you figure those people owe you?
>>540065216We already do this, it's called taxes and welfare. Results are...underwhelming
>>540066671you're poor as hell and you want to defend jewish billionaires to what end?
>>540066728You just know he is a poortard that thinks he needs a Ferrari and super yacht because some influencer told him he does. No amount of wealth will satisfy him because he lets other tell him what he wants, rather than make his own judgement.
>>540066919what is your educational background, what do you do for a living, and how much do you make a year?
>>540066844Why do you call them jewish?
>>540065216Gatekeeping wealth is the name of the game.Its the carrot on a stick where you can vote for how far away it is but you can never get closer to it.
>>540065216A collective of what? collectives? Why would I as an individual choose to participate in that if I only stand to lose?
>>540067024if i told you someone was good at basketball, would it be reasonable to guess that they are black?
>>540065216>yet another memeflag retard with a bait thread, swarmed by even more retards who don’t understand money.This kind of wealth concentration is the result of precisely two things: jews and the Cantillon Effect. The latter is what happens when new money continuously introduced into supply: those closest to money creation spend it before inflation hits, and as it makes it way through the economy, inflation rises/prices adjust and it loses value. The rich spend it on assets that appreciate, using money that has full value. They spend interest on even more assets, and the effect of wealth building compounds. New money raises the expected standard of living, which creates demand for foreign goods at lower prices, driving out domestic manufacturing and forcing the economy into services instead of commodities. Sound familiar? >but those jews, thoughThey’re always a problem, because they accelerate financialization of everything. That, combined with their naturally corrosive practices that erode tradition and decency, and here we are. Also their usury.
>>540066844>you're poor as hellYep, poor enough to get (((free))) healthcare from the state and get money back from my state and the IRS every year. But I've got lots of assets, zero debt, and plan to retire in the next 5 years.>you want to defend jewish billionairesI really don't care if some other people have more money than I do. But I'll bite, how do you suppose murdering and robbing successful people will improve my lot in life?
>>540067186>The rich spend it on assets that appreciateSo only "the rich" are allowed to buy assets that appreciate in value?
>>540067219>But I've got lots of assets, zero debt, and plan to retire in the next 5 years.asset checks are a condition of receiving state medicaid, so i really doubt this.you sound like a white nigger leech who will likely have a very rude awakening over the next several years. you'll likely be kicked off state medicaid on january 1, 2027, as an example.
>>540065216>The collective matters more than the individual.Not if the collective becomes mostly subhuman - either through nature or through nurture. Your 'greedy individual' is now the mean. That did happen, does happen and will happen in most countries at some point. Funnily enough, it is almost solely because of you leftists.
>>540067186>The rich spend it on assets that appreciateThe next 30-year treasury auction is 8/13/2026, which should have a yield of ~5.25% (although rates are expected to increase in the future). The minimum buy in is only $100. You can easily participate with TreasuryDirect or your broker.
>>540067318>only the rich are allowed to buy appreciating assets I didn’t say that, but they tend to buy a lot more as a percentage of their income, and at a lower price relative to inflation. Doesn’t help that they often have access to a financier class that’s disproportionately jewish. Cantillon wrote about that phenomenon as well but no one mentions it because muh antisemitism.>>540068008>5.25%>when real inflation is 7% at least
>>540067436>asset checks are a condition of receiving state medicaid,The LLC is in my brother's name, the investments, land, business, house, and investments are in the LLC. I've been broke on paper since 2014 when I folded my eBay store and stiffed my creditors for about 110K. >you sound like a white nigger leechPerhaps, but so long as 51% of the people in my state who vote want to give me health insurance at someone else's expense I'm not going to be too proud to take it. >likely have a very rude awakening over the next several years.The only thing that might hurt my 5 year plan is if gold, oil, and other commodities somehow tank. Even then, I've always managed to find a hustle. Absolute worst case scenario in my life is that I'd just have to work full time in an office.>you'll likely be kicked off state medicaid on january 1, 2027That's fine. I'm very healthy and all my grandparents lived deep into their 90s without constantly going to doctors or being dependent on drugs. I don't think my dad has been to a doctor in his adult life and he is in his 70s.
>>540068480>but they tend to buy a lot more as a percentage of their income, Wow, so you're saying that wealthy people invest more than, say Mike Tyson who pissed away 50 million on gold teeth, an entourage, and a tiger collection?>and at a lower price relative to inflation.For the vast majority of investments (publicly traded stocks) nobody is getting a "better deal". You can sign up to Robin Hood right now and buy a share of Exxon Mobil for $155. Elon or Bezos can't just call up a broker and get 10% off and pay 140 for a share.The ONLY place wealthy investors get a leg up is in privately held companies and startups, but once you build up enough capital to be worth talking to and have the willingness to risk it on new businesses it's not impossible to get into those circles.
>>540068480Typical poortard math. "Bonds lose 1.75% of their value per year, so I'll going to hold cash in my mattress that loses 7% per year!"Also, the rate is determined via a competitive bidding process where institutional investors basically say what interest rate they want, and everybody including you gets the same "best" rate. Isn't much of a reason for them to bid below inflation (except above example) when they could just invest in something else instead.
>>540069443>Typical poortard math. "Bonds lose 1.75% of their value per year, so I'll going to hold cash in my mattress that loses 7% per year!"I think the logic is more along the lines of "If I can't be a billionaire before Christmas, there's no point in even trying, so I'll just piss away my paycheck on whatever gives me a dopamine rush right now."
>>540069003>Mike TysonCantillon was French and in the 18th century, he wasn’t concerned with retarded niggers who got money from jews pushing him onto a trusting populace. >they’re not getting a better deal on stocks than youNot what I said. >they have an advantage with private investments More or less what I said, with access to a class of people that most don’t.>it’s not impossible Neither is building a house from scratch but it’s still wildly unrealistic for most people at this point in the economic supercycle. Get mad or don’t, this is just how money works over a long enough period of time, every time, everywhere. Having hard money like gold and silver doesn’t change this either, although the boom/bust cycles aren’t nearly as dramatic.>>540069443Did I say don’t buy bonds? Jesus you people are stupid. There are way better places to put your money than into bonds.
>>540069716>dopamine rush societyAlso discussed by Cantillon. He observed that as money supply is inflated and wealth is concentrated, in short, people become more degenerate and engage in increasingly shortsighted, low time preference behavior. Wealth concentration also tends to lead to political instability as most people approach the point where half their income goes to food.
>>540069864>Did I say don’t buy bonds?Yeah, right here:>There are way better places to put your money than into bonds.Like 90% of my money is in stocks, but as interest rates increase bonds become more and more attractive. Poorfags usually have retarded levels of risk aversion, so treasury bonds are a perfect investment for them.>>540069716True. There is also trauma culture where people want to be unsuccessful so they can farm pity on facebook or w/e
If this "hi" wealth individual was spending the majority f the money in a way that was useful (not investment/jewish bullshit but instead giving it to real people through employment, spending it on infrastructure etc) then perhaps they can be allowed to exist. Hoarders, of all kinds, should be put to death.
>>540070013>most people approach the point where half their income goes to food.I can buy a 50 pound sack of flour or rice for around $35, chicken and pork are still a buck a pound. "Poor" people in the USA are so fucking fat they can't even walk and get a free scooter from the government along with enough gibs to maintain their 30,000 calorie a day diet that got them there.
>>540072919Im glad school will be starting soon and your cell phone is banned now.Summer is almost over champ.
>>540073062Tell us what you do for work and what percentage of your income you spend on food.
