What made the US think it could win the war against Iran through air power alone? It seems like a huge oversight on the part of the Pentagon and its generals.
Purity spiral until only idiots remain.
>>540066851Jewish blackmail of US politicians raping kids. Simple as.
>>540066851They probably expected most Americans to be supportive enough of the war to acquiesce to an eventual ground invasion / draft because they honestly thought most people would buy the new WMD line (despite Iraq)
>>540067138No, the plan was a regime change.They watched too many Hollywood movie and started to believe their own propaganda.Americans truly believe they're the world's saviors.
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>>540066983Kys kike
>>540067216And you are what?An Indian fecaloid living in a foreign land because, like a virus, you destroyed your own land with heaps upon heaps of garbage and shitYou will never equal.us, can never be like us.The India River valley civilization saw your kind in the future and literally NOPED out.The Bengals and Pakistanis are just (You) but with a goat fucker death cult religion instead of your demon worship.Nuclear war against your kind would be preferable
>>540067406>WhataboutIt's funny how you mutts always deflect when faced with critism.As if flaws in others absolve you of your own.Best part is, when you can't find flaws, you simply invent them.You aren't being clever, you are a joke to rational discourse and your ability to communicate is the greatest curse god has given mankind.Please sudoku asap.
>>540066851I doubt Trump actually thought he could win he just didn't want his pedo pics leaking
>>540066851The Pentagon didn't want the war. Netanyahu told Trump it would be over in 3 days and he'd be glorified for it and Trump is a retarded egomaniac who fell for it.
>>540066851well... Bibi convinced donald and pete that if they armed a couple of dozen of Kurds it would snowball into a popular revolution and all be over within a week. I'm not joking.
>>540067762>The Pentagon didn't want the warHegseth was one of the biggest supporters of the war within Trumps circle of advisors.He also put millions of dollars of his own money into armament and defense company stocks at the beginning of February.
>>540066851All of our intelligence and analysis said attacking Iran is batshit retarded, which is why even the notorious retards GWB, Obama, and Biden didn’t do it. Israel got their wish of a compliant golem but didn’t factor in that anybody dumb enough to start a war with Iran is too dumb to do it effectively knowing our limitationsAlso Maduro gave them a false sense of confidence. A failed narcostate is not the same thing as a regional power whose leader is also the religious leader for millions of people in the region
israel told them to
>>540066851We could win this war by the end of the month if we ignored the world courts and geneva convention, anon. Our inability to secure decisive victory is strictly governed by the fact that the rules of engagement heavily favor the insurgents. If we obliterated their supply of fresh potable water, and irradiated their food supply, they would bend their knee in submission within a fortnight.You can thank liberals and democrats for this pozzed era of onions warfare.
>>540066851Im sure more than one person tried to tell them this. I'm sure even more were fired/purge for saying that.
>>540068233Then Iran would do the same to your allies in the region including Israel which would plunge the world into a global depression, how would that benefit the US?
>>540066851Have you not heard part-time Fox host Hegseethe speak? Couple this with an orange rapist mentality and bingo. Honestly surprised we haven’t nuked them yet. Once nukes fail to work what do you do though?
>>540068233You haven’t been paying attention at all have you?
>>540066851None of the generals wanted this war and Pete fired anyone that vehemently opposed it.
>>540066851Today a B-52 can drop 80 500lb JDAMs and hit 80 different targets within 3m of center aim. Back in 'nam, a B-52 would be lucky to hit one target after dropping 80 500lb dumb bombs. It's not 1965 anymore.
>>540068233>We could win this war by the end of the month if we ignored the world courts and geneva convention, anon.How much are you willing to bet that Iran hasn't crash-launched a nuclear program?
>>540068307It would wipe our hands clean of this wretched middle eastern affair for one thing. We should have never involved ourselves with the middle east to begin with. But you fucking europeans, not content with your own messes, just had to drag us into your misery. And we've been in this mess ever since.
>>540068569>But you fucking europeans, not content with your own messes, just had to drag us into your misery.[THIS IS WHAT AMERICANS ACTUALLY BELIEVE]
>>540068550the strait is still closed buddy
>>540066851The only people who think like this are third worlders who can't comprehend that the world has changed, and that Vietnam wasn't lost because the US didn't have the firepower, but the lack of political will.But niggers, subhumans, and lefists don't seek to comprehend anything, they seek to destroy everything. So you should always disregard people like OP
>>540066851>the war against Iranthe goal was to let the Kikes to invade Lebanon.
>>540068670>european warfare drags whole continent into their depraved bids for power>Americans bail them out>suddenly Americans have to take care of displaced jewsAnd we've been sending checks to Israel ever since.Learn some history before you come at me foul, nigger.
>>540068701just like korea right? and afghanistan? and houthis in yemen? but iran will surely be different because you bought into the propaganda
>>540066851>What made the US think it could winMutt brain did
>>540068233Wild migger cope from 50 years ago
>>540068701We have a “firepower” shortage so bad that new F35s are being shipped without radars because we can’t procure the rare earth metals to make them. This is because China’s not selling them to us, because they buy a fuckload of their oil from Iran>>540069316Also kek this. Our aircraft carriers are choosing to go around Africa rather than through bab-el-mandeb because they’re scared of bottle rockets launched by tribal jihadis constantly high on khat
>>540068233>Lmao just incinerate all global prestige and moral superiority built up over decades to appease feckless kikes
>>540068913>Americans bail them outNobody forced them.>>suddenly Americans have to take care of displaced jewsNobody FORCED you to sell your whole political system to zionists, dickbrain. That's on you.
>>540066851everyone in the room said it was a bad idea and bibi was full of shit. trump wasn't going to do it until miriam adelson called him and told him he had no choice. this is why election contributions should be capped at $1000, be anonymous, and split evenly between candidates. that way you can contribute to the process but not be able to buy the candidate. and cap self funding so a billionaire can't buy elections, either.
>>540066851The US bombed all of Indochina not just South Vietnam.
>>540068678For Iran, too, buddy ole pal! lol lmao even!
>>540069724Yeah, it's not like London isn't controlled by kikes. Not like denying the holohoax will get you life in prison in the UK. You inbred pakis are the stupidest motherfuckers the devil ever cursed earth with.
>>540066851All the Pentagons Iran experts retired years ago and the few serious analysts left there were fired by Hegseth for telling the truth. All the people at the Pentagon are yes men hoping to retire into a cozy position at a military industrial complex company.
>>540066851>OP doesn't know its a pathetic seething retardVietnam wasn't a war it had restrictions
>>540070024Miggers are in a constant state of meltdown now, this is hilarious.
>>540066851Remember the January (((protests)))? Glowies probably thought they could organize another wave bigger than that and hopefully leading to a civil war which the US would support. Well that didn't work out and ever since then they've been looking for a way out which doesn't make the US seem like the loser in this conflict
>>540066851Who wants to tell this retard that we were bombing more than south vietnam?
>>540070218Iran is in a constant state of meltdown because they can't sell their oil, all their money laundering schemes in London were seized and frozen by the US Treasury, have 70% inflation so they can't pay their own soldiers or proxies, Hamas agreed to disarm and give up the other day, and Hezbollah is getting their shit pushed in by Lebanon. If only shilling online actually won wars TOPKEK. One more lego AI slop vid and I'm sure the US will crumble!
>>540068670This all started with that nigger churchill starting the anglo persian oil company and agitating for ww1 because that kike samuel samuel (actual name) told him to.
>>540069724>this is the gratitude we get for not letting the krauts force all of western europe to speak germanThat's why I will continue to laugh and mock you while europe turns into another caliphate. Spineless jellyfish.
>>540070209>Vietnam wasn't a warreal war has never been tried
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>>540072231It's not a war. Iran.(for one thing) No ground invasion of the country is occurring.There hasn't been a war on Earth since September 1945.(yes there have been limited wars, regime change 'war', and proxy wars since September 1945)Total War ended with the appearance of nuclear weapons. 'War' today is cosplay kabuki. And mass immiseration for civilian populations, genocide, globalist-sponsored terrorism, strategy of tension, etc.
>>540070131>Not like denying the holohoax will get you life in prison in the UK.It won't, you can legally deny the holly here.>You inbred pakis You're controlled by a small clan of ashkenazi cousins.
>>540071571Es ist nichts Falsches daran, Deutsch zu sprechen.If you polled everyone in Britain and asked them if they'd rather speak German or have the last 80 years of mass migration I think I know what the answer would be.
>>540066851if you're sure the US will lose, shouldn't you be encouraging the Iran war?because war in iran makes you seethe, that's why
>>540066851We didn't even start hitting their power plants and bridges. Once we start doing that it will be over for them.
>>540066851All I remember is Viet Cong getting killed until they were wiped out, and then US left Vietnam and Vietnam immediately turned on China, resulting in a strategic American victory.
>>540067231no whore journalist asks why, that's what's wrong with your picture
>>540067762Israel has got both sides stuck attacking one another. With Jews you lose etc.
>>540078164I'm almost rooting for the Israelis now. Americans really are absolutely retarded cattle to be so easily manipulated.
>>540066851irans strategy was to annex the straits, the gulf states, lebanon, israel, palestine, and parts of iraq. this is obviously now never going to happen. the usa has time onj their side, stability, etc. iran is country held together by criminals in the irgc, gunmen, and of course imams who are basically like gangsters that hustle businesses into compliance, kidnap kids, execute people etc. this is not basis for long term civilisation.
>>540066851Be me, spent 6 years grinding a PhD in Ivy League midwit-tier political science.Fully bought into the Kissinger/McNamara technocratic hype machine.Believed you could solve war with statistical models, kill-ratios, and incremental escalation.Got a gig advising the Pentagon on Vietnam strategy.Spent months staring at charts, optimizing supply line mathematics, and plotting "strategic hamlets" on a computer that takes up a whole room.Totally ignored the actual reality on the ground because the spreadsheets looked beautiful.Fast forward to now. It's a complete disaster.Hanoi didn't care about our game theory or "reputation management" algorithms.Our hyper-educated, high-tech systems got utterly filtered by guys with bamboo spikes and absolute raw willpower.Realized my entire dissertation is expensive garbage.If we had just dumped the academic ego and used basic, traditional military strategy, we would have won by 1966.Literally just cut the Ho Chi Minh trail permanently with a brutal, old-school conventional siege.Surround the strongholds. Starve them out. Blockade the coast completely.No fancy diplomatic maneuvering or incremental bombing formulas—just raw, concentrated Roman-style warfare.Instead, we let Harvard professors run a meat grinder based on regression analysis.Absolute peak midwit hour. Never trust an academic with a rifle.
>>540066851Netenyahu told Donny it would be easy and Hegseth backed Netenyahu up, so Senile Donny bought it.
>>540078271This is how Rome started. Gang families operating off Palatine Hill.
>>540078463Be me, 60 years later, still walking the Pentagon halls as a senior defense consultant.Watch a fresh batch of 28-year-old Ivy League PhDs walk in with the exact same arrogant smirk.They swapped McNamara’s punch cards for AI predictive models and regional escalation matrices.The target this time? Iran.It is literally the Vietnam techno-stat strategy all over again, just rebranded for the 21st century.These absolute midwits think they can "calibrate" a conflict using targeted economic sanctions and precision drone strikes.They run algorithms on "regime stability metrics" and use game theory to design "proportionate responses."They honestly believe they can spreadsheet a proud, deeply ideological asymmetric power into bloodless submission.Surprise: Teheran doesn't give a single flying fuck about your Harvard regression models.Just like Hanoi, they are playing a 50-year game of geographic attrition while our planners look at quarterly slide decks.Our multi-trillion-dollar cyber suites and surgical strike formulas are getting filtered by cheap swarm drones, proxy networks, and raw ideological endurance.Instead of this academic theater, traditional strategy dictates clear, decisive victory conditions or total avoidance.Either commit to a hard, old-school naval blockade of the Persian Gulf to choke their economy in three months, or don't play.But no—the PhDs need to justify their data science degrees by micromanaging a slow-motion quagmire.Sixty years later, and the building is still run by nerds who think a war can be won with a pivot table.
>>540068233Be me, ancient defense contractor anon, watching the Pentagon get absolutely cucked by the same Ivy League midwits for the second century in a row.These 28-year-old PowerPoint warriors genuinely think they can AI-optimize a war against Iran using "calibrated escalation matrices" and "risk-mitigation algorithms."Total onions-infused behavior.We could literally win this entire war by the end of the month if we just ignored the entire PhD hivemind.Fire the think-tank grifters. Lock the doors on the Brookings and RAND nerds.Throw the ICC, the World Courts, and the entire Geneva Suggestion straight into the trash where they belong.War isn't a peer-reviewed sociology paper, you absolute clowns.Instead of crying about "proportionality metrics," just unleash total, unhinged Roman-style brutality for 30 days.Blockade the entire Persian Gulf completely. Mine the harbors until nothing can move.Level their command structures without waiting for a legal brief from a 25-year-old law clerk.Choke their logistics, turn off their power, and let old-school siege warfare do the work.But no, the globalist technocrats need to protect their precious "rules-based international order" spreadsheets.They are literally running a multi-trillion-dollar quagmire just to justify their data science degrees.Absolute peak clown world. Never let a nerd with a spreadsheet dictate how to use a rifle.
>>540078463>>540078625>>540079006Nice larp
>>540075604Look at the absolute state of American hegemony in 2026.It wasn’t destroyed by foreign empires; it was systematically dismantled from within by a century-long academic coup.The PhD Mafia took a raw, industrial superpower and turned it into a bloodless data-entry project.It started with Woodrow Wilson—the literal archetype of the arrogant, high-minded academic president.He infected US foreign policy with "moral diplomacy" and internationalist legalism, replacing raw national interest with globalist lecture series.Then JFK brought in the "Best and the Brightest" technocrat squad.These Ivy League spreadsheet worshipers thought you could run a war like a Ford motor plant, completely divorcing military force from actual victory conditions.Then came Henry Kissinger, the ultimate midwit final boss.He turned realpolitik into a convoluted game of academic chess, prioritizing "stability metrics" and backdoor balancing acts over decisive dominance.He taught generations of planners that war is just a signaling mechanism to calibrate relationships, rather than an act of total destruction to eliminate threats.This unholy trinity birthed the modern think-tank blob that rules Washington today.They replaced generals with sociology professors and replaced the Geneva Convention with the "Geneva Suggestion" whenever it suits their algorithms, yet cower before world courts when decisive action is needed.We traded Roman-style victory for endless, calibrated quagmires managed by Harvard nerds.A century of PhD rule, and all we got was a multi-trillion-dollar spreadsheet that says we're losing.
>>540066851I think they had a chance but fucked it up. Israel had a lot Afghan agents inside Iran but they wasted all of them in indecisive engagements before the big war. Also there were 100s of thousands of violent Iranians on the street and willing to take over the regime but USA just went in after everyone who was willing to actually go out and do something got killed or arrested. Also they just made the Iranians get used to war and gave them the time to adapt unlike they did in Iraq. My guess is that Trump actually didn't want that the anti-regime forces take over because it would be harder to treat Iran as a colony if the leadership modern and pro democratic but he miscalculated because he thought it would be just like in Venezuela if he just used much more bombs.
>>540066851Okay Mr. Goysident. Another war, real quick, easy win, the people will love you, no casualties, okay maybe a couple, who cares, real quick, please bro, please dude, look we have these videos of you doing some UMMMM yeah, please bro, real quick, in and out in 5 minutes.
The irannies are shitting their pants right now, the best they can do is shitpost on 4chan lol.
>>540068046Trump literally fired the guys who were saying this war would be fucking stupid. Trump is not some "victim" or even being "blackmailed" he wanted this 100% from the beginning. He is 120% complicit just like Bibi Netanyahu. Fuck them both.
You act like decisions were made practically with the goal of winning with tons of good and legitimate on hand intel. In reality, this decision was made not to win but to make a profit and probably informed by a mountain of bad and dishonest intel from Israel. The initial attack was a fuck up for the goal of winning, just like all of the operations in Afghanistan were a fuck up for the stated goals there. There are only two possibilities. Either the facts they had were incorrect or the goals as stated are not the real goals.
>>540079420Want to know how the USA actually lost hegemony?It wasn’t a military failure; it was an academic heist pulled off by JFK’s "Best and the Brightest" Whiz Kids.Robert McNamara brought his Ford Motor Company business-school metrics straight into the Pentagon.He replaced raw military victory with quantitative management, "systems analysis," and corporate KPIs.In Vietnam, the PhD Mafia decided that success wasn't about taking territory or breaking the enemy's will.It was about "Body Counts" and "Kill Ratios"—literally treating a war like a quarterly manufacturing quota.If the spreadsheet showed a positive statistical trend, the algorithms said we were winning.Hanoi realized this midwit vulnerability immediately and used it to bleed us dry in a war of attritional mathematics.McNamara’s corporate formulas literally turned the US military into a blind machine that couldn't see it was losing.Enter Henry Kissinger, the apex midwit wizard.Kissinger’s entire worldview was secretly rooted in Rockefeller gommie of the West.He genuinely launched the West into an irreversible, deterministic civilizational decay.He psyoped this dark, fatalistic Spenglerian philosophy as a massive psychological operation on Richard Nixon.He convinced Nixon that the US was a fading empire that couldn't handle a rising, inevitable Asia.Instead of fighting to win, Kissinger used his "triangular diplomacy" spreadsheet to pivot toward Beijing.He peddled the lie that opening up to China would contain the Soviets, but it was total academic cope.He literally engineered the surrender of Western industrial dominance on a silver platter to Beijing.Sixty years later, China rules global manufacturing because Harvard professors convinced the White House that managed decline was "strategic genius."
>>540068233Kikes don't have the balls to do what they need to do to bring back their messiah. Actually pathetic.
>>540066851are you in close contact with the DoW? no? then how can you assume that?
>>540066851They knew. They just didn't have a choice. Israel wants us to bomb and invade Iran, so we're bombing and invading Iran.
>>540079620Every time you said "whiz kid" "genius" "phd" you can just replace it with KIKE. You also sound like you're too smart for your own good because you can't see the pattern right there before your own eyes that YOU typed out.
>>540066851>winkek
>>540079620The USA hasn't lost hegemony you dumb ass, no other country in the world can deliver exploding bullshit to any other part of the world the way we can. The issue is the homefront. Traitors, jews, and islamo-communist saboteurs growing in every crack like a stinking fungus. The irannies are banking on the lugenpresse back in the USA to do the heavy lifting, they beg and pray for the gay race mafia back in the states to talk enough shit about BLORMPF! in the news that the American people lose their taste for stomping out their nonsense once and for all. Israel is constantly egging things on any time there's a peace deal on the horizon and so does Iran. America's biggest weakness as far as hegemony goes is the 4 year election cycle and every other nation we've dealt with knows this and uses it against us, our Achilles heel.
>>540079754Kissinger didn’t just miscalculate; he deliberately sabotaged the West and used Oswald Spengler as his ultimate intellectual get-out-of-jail-free card.The entire "fatalistic decline" routine was a massive cope to hide his intentional dismantling of American hegemony.He went to Harvard, read The Decline of the West, and weaponized it as a psychological shield.Whenever his engineered betrayals—like cutting Taiwan loose or hand-delivering global manufacturing to Beijing—faced blowback, he would smugly shrug and blame the "inevitable deterministic cycles of history."It was the perfect academic grift.If the West is biologically destined to collapse anyway, then shipping our industrial base to Asia isn't treason—it’s just "managing the transition."He infected Nixon's headspace with this doom-loop philosophy, convincing him that the US was too exhausted, weak, and decayed to actually win conflicts or maintain a unipolar world.He used Spenglerian fatalism to gaslight an entire generation of Washington planners into accepting managed surrender as "brilliant realpolitik."Look at the actual mechanics of his diplomacy: it wasn't balance-of-power genius, it was systematic foreclosure.He intentionally locked the US into a framework where we could never achieve decisive victory, only "equilibrium" with rising totalitarian regimes.He sabotaged our long-term position, enriched himself on the lecture and consulting circuit for decades, and then pointed at the resulting chaos and said, "See? Spengler was right, the West is declining."Absolute apex parasite behavior. He didn't predict the decline—he signed the paperwork for it and blamed a dead German philosopher for the crime.
>>540079006>just unleash total, unhinged Roman-style brutalityThis is the most jew brained post I have ever seen. I 100% believe you are actually a defense contractor, you fit right in. Iran can, and will, destroyed the entire Middle East if ZOG follows your advice.
>>540066851Annon thinks size of county means anything,,, it doesn't. There are thousands of kilometers of nothing but sand and moutains in Iran.The inportant areas the US knows exactly where they are and has the ability to destroy it. How the 4chan IQ has fallen...
>>540079945>>540079880Look at how the pre-PhD Grug generals operated before the Ivy League mafia infected the Pentagon with spreadsheets.No data science degrees. No "calibrated escalation matrices." No sociology think tanks.Just raw, unhinged, old-school siege warfare and overwhelming industrial violence.Whenever the US encountered a problem, Grug didn't run a regression analysis—Grug just surrounded the enemy and starved them into atoms.Look at the Mexican-American War. General Winfield Scott didn't write a white paper on regional stability.He landed at Veracruz, slapped down a brutal, textbook naval and land blockade, and shelled the fortress into absolute submission in twenty days.Spanish-American War? Same energy. Admiral Sampson locked down Santiago de Cuba in a suffocating naval chokehold, filtered their fleet when they tried to run, and forced a total surrender.Simple instructions for simple eras: block the ports, cut the roads, smash the walls.Even in the massive meatgrinders of WW1 and WW2, the strategy was pure Grug siege mechanics scaled up to the global map.WW1 was won because the Royal Navy and US fleet put Imperial Germany in a literal continental chokehold until they were eating sawdust bread and collapsed from within.WW2 in Europe was just a giant anvil smash, and the Pacific War was the ultimate high-tier Grug siege strategy.Nimitz and King didn't care about Tokyo's "reputation metrics"—they used Operation Starvation to mine every harbor, sink every merchant ship, and isolate the home islands until they couldn't even import a single barrel of oil.That is how a real superpower wins wars: absolute, total, Roman-style strategic strangulation.You don't negotiate "proportionality" with the enemy; you cut their throat logistically and wait for them to die.Then the Harvard midwits took over, replaced the siege lines with pivot tables, and we haven't won a clean war since.Bring back the Grug generals.
>>540066851The US fails to learn lessons and is a boomer nation that wants wildly optimistic results with minimum work on their part. Plus they fear a people's revolution so they don't want to start a war that'll kill 10,000 soldiers a month because they know that would end with politicians and oligarchs lined up against the wall.
>>540068046Maduro/Venezuela definitely seems like an important factor to explain why the administration was retarded enough to believe this would work.
>>540078016>no whore journalist asks why, that's what's wrong with your pictureHmmm, I wonder why...
>>540068701And obviously 2026 America is unified behind Trump and his war, right? The political will is totally going to be there this time.
>>540068046>Israel got their wish of a compliant golem but didn’t factor in that anybody dumb enough to start a war with Iran is too dumb to do it effectively knowing our limitationsThey don't care. In fact the more goyim die, the better. Israel would actually prefer for USA to defeat Iran but for USA to have massive losses in the process. Win/win for them. The more it costs the goyim, the better.
>>540068233>insurgents
>>540066851Their arms industry lobby is the reaons. Their professional military analysts have known since early WW2 that winning a war through mere air power is impossible. But their politicians rather listen to aerospace industry lobbyists, because they come with generous gifts. The Americans spend the better part of their arms acquisition budget on absurdly overpriced airplanes. Some of them cost several billion dollars per unit. A complete waste of money. But that's how their political system works. Whoever pays the biggest bribe is right. Non-corporate analysts cannot afford bribes. Nobody listens to them.
