Politically, what would happen in Russia, if the war ends at a line right after kramatorsk and it turns out Russian losses really were humongous, near to what Ukraine claims now?
>>540106018Dnieper is new border, you can cap this
>>540106018>bargaining stage of loss
>>540106080Thanks on the update on your wellbeing, bro, but that's not what the thread's about.>>540106050Not impossible, but it would take so many years, a lot of other developments could occur to interfere with that. My reading is there will be a partial mobilization in Russia in Fall, after elections. Then they'll do a final push for a symbolic/moral victory. Take the couple cities people kept hearing for the last 4 years and sign some very sketchy peace agreement.
>>540106050Capped for the cope compilation. Will make a thread about you when the exodus of Crimea on foot begins
>>540106174denialangerbargaining >man what if them ziggers just stopped here depressionacceptance
>>540106174There will never be any peace agreements between them. Also Russia isn't interested in making any border because the moment the border is established Ukraine will get a EU and NATO membership.
>>540106184Remember the situation on terrain when i said itAnd please post it every time you can when special operation is over
>>540106294Yeah, actually, I did not ask your flag's posters. Sorry. First couple words you wrote are a great example as to why.>>540106212You're "moving" in such a way, that you'd mince half the federation before closing onto the whole bank. It's not even meaningful from my perspective. The death toll is way more important to me, as a citizen of Poland, because it might mean half a century of peace after some reckoning at Moscow. I have zero doubt that the mental models implanted from ww2 propaganda and the general attitude issues Russians have resulted in needless death and playing loose with casualties at every step. When Russians start to suspect the real toll over some nothing burger win, I think they might actually improve their mental models of how the world works.
PS And if any of you think that Russia will make big gains this year, note their ranks are melting, right now. They should've mobilized in the Spring, but politics took priority and now everything in Russia is getting fucked.
>>540106552The very same can be said about Ukraine. Do you think when they find out about how many really died while the west just sat back and watched and just kept giving them the minimal aid and empty promises for years they will like it?
>>540106018People might not realise this, but that's actually a cat playing Counter Strike.
>>540108414Which is how you know it's AI. A cat wouldn't demean itself like that.
what happened historically when they lost a lot of bucks for no particular gain that's worthwhile?my guess is: absolutely nothing. russoidia is a drunken peasant multiracial village. all they care about is the vodka bottle being full.all else is optional.
>>540110580Well, that one time in 1917 something happened.There's no sense in pretending modern Russians are rugged or self-reliant, either. If the government shits the bed and Russians feel it on their own skin, it might be over for the former.