>be mayor zohran mamdani>promise to solve high grocery prices with state-owned stores>announce 5 taxpayer-funded supermarkets, 1 in each borough>spend $70 million in taxpayer cash upfront just on construction>mandate a 30% discount on produce, meat, seafood, and staples>make the discount apply to everyone, including wall street billionaires>grocery stores normally survive on tiny 1-3% profit margins>city covering rent and property taxes only buys back 10% of the discount>taxpayers are forced to cover the remaining 20% subsidy on every single item>the more groceries the store sells, the more taxpayer money gets drained>create the only store in new york where success makes the owner poorer>taxpayers are the owner>east harlem store alone costs $30 million in building costs>for the construction cost alone, city could hand $1,000 cash to 70,000 families instantly>instead, struggling families get zero help for years>first store doesn't open until late 2027, east harlem delayed until 2029>local private grocers surviving on 1% margins are crushed>taxpayers are forced to fund the exact store that bankrupts their local neighborhood grocer>mfw
>>540119263>5 taxpayer-funded supermarkets>nearly 20 million people in the NYC metro areagreat work retard
>>540119263communism will work for a while until white people stop paying taxes or the taxes they still pay won't be enough anymore.
Billionaires who loathe communism because it removes them from power using their media to convince people to hate communism, and using their financial leverage to ruin any attempts of others to utilize communism.whodathunkit
i hope everyone here gets this virtue signaling madness, clarification if you're dense:the fantasy:>a benevolent politician heroically stands up to corporate greed>state owned supermarkets save the working class from the cost of living crisis>30 percent off fresh meat produce and seafood for the people>socialism in action putting human needs over corporate profit>a shiny municipal store where the state provides for everyone>politicians cutting ribbons and posting victory laps on social mediareality:>70 million dollars of taxpayer money burned just to erect physical buildings>not a single struggling family receives a single cent of help for three years>a wall street hedge fund manager gets the exact same discount as a struggling mother>grocery stores run on 1 percent margins and rent waivers only cover 10 percent of the cut>taxpayers are forced to pick up the bill for the remaining 20 percent on every single purchase>the more food the store sells the poorer the taxpayer owner becomes>local immigrant bodegas operating on razor thin margins get completely crushed>forced to compete against a state funded monolith backed by their own tax dollars>you could have handed 1000 dollars cash to 70 thousand poor families in a week>instead you built a 70 million dollar middleman and made starving people wait until 2029>it was never about feeding the poor>it was about buying a moral halo with other peoples money
Petty theft will become illegal again
>>540119501white people have been fleeing NY in droves since 2020the Governor of NY is begging them to come back while also giving NYC 8billion dollars in state tax money so communists can say they balanced the budget and do dumb shit like this
>Am afraid of free market competition>Call it communismHumble free market mayor giving a free market solution
>>540119597Billionaires are the party of communism. Communism is oligarchy.
>>540119647tax payer funded is the opposite of free market
>>540119597Nobody wants communism but retarded faggots now fuck off nigger
>>540119607>>it was about buying a moral halo with other peoples moneyIn Ottoman Empire there was tradition when Sultan brought chest of gold coins and threw it to the court, allowing everyone to pick them up. Showing generosity and kindness of the Sultan.Brown peepo culture never changes.
>>540119263What are you blathering on about? State clearly how many drugs you have taken today.
>>540119613You mean we can't steal from the city grocery store?!? what the FUCK
>>540119648Nah that's old world communism.New world communism utilizes AI and has no permanent figures at the top. Only soritioned republic councils that rotate in 30 day intervals to oversee the non-tampering of the governing AIsGTFO with that soviet or CCP ancient ass bullshit.>>540119730Considering the state of affairs due to our billionaire regime's decision making, I'm willing to consider communism as a viable replacement to capitalism. The current cast of billionaires are too abusive and are siphoning too much wealth from us to them (fastest wealth transfer upward in recorded history) resulting in rapidly increasing prices in everything all while they import niggers into every country to replace the white people who live there.So because of the ruling class billionaires decision to abuse the people they were supposed to provide an atmosphere of opportunity for, holding them accountable through mass executions and replacing the economic and governing system is worthy of consideration.
>Saaar I'm Muslim and I will fix NYC>*Kisses Jewish ass since he got in office"
This actually worked incredibly well in India. It's to break up local Mafias in the wholesale trade, Hitler did it too. Standard socialism. Capitalists talk a lot about the free market and competition, but the second they have to compete with state run enterprise they cry, and cry, and cry. 5 state run stores can only meet a fraction of demand, but have a far greater impact on prices. If commercial suppliers were not taking monopoly profits, the 5 stores would just be 5 stores and the prices would be the same, nothing would change. But if the private sector is taking monopoly profits, the state stores will be 5 times cheaper, hence the communist clique about endless lines for goods.
>>540119597Did you fucking read the post you absolute moron
Oh no a grocery store, I am so mad I will go to the desert and die for Israel to stop this right away, who is with me?
As a middle class person here, I wouldn't be caught dead shopping in lower class supermarkets, and I imagine no middle class American would want to be caught dead in a Mamdani discount "store"
>>540120037WOAH how's the situation in Iran bruddah
>>540119263Am I the ONLY ONE who sees the fucking dead eyes of this kaffer dog????? Are you all fucking blind he's fucking retarded!!!!!
>>540119986Not reading all that. No communism for you, nigger.
>>540119501As opposed to the based current system where white peoples tax money goes to Jews and Beaners right?
>>540120037How the fuck are you frequently posting on this shithole? Mahsa has got fucked.
Even with the government worker pension buillshit, the post office used to turn a profit offering a great service at low prices. It only got fucked when congress forced them to fun 70+ years of pension obligations.What I learned from that is that it's possible to fund government from voluntary services and still allow for competition, provided it's done responsibly. The only reason government programs fail is corruption, and the only reason we pay taxes is to keep us under big gov's thumb.
>>540119263The only thing a mayor should be doing is helping local people to establish their own food distribution centers and giving away 70 million dollars of free food to any hungry mouth that comes to the door.Tell me pol why can't we have nice things like that?
>>540119986>Only soritioned republic councils that rotate in 30 day intervals to oversee the non-tampering of the governing AIsYou can't been that naive.There is no more obfuscated system then current AI.Literally Futurama meme.
>>540119623>white people have been fleeing NYenjoy living in texas with all the jeets, I'm sure they'll be fleeing back to NYC when they realize every fucking business is owned by a poo
>>540119263The USA has far more socialists and communists than people would like to believe. Especially amongst the youth. The vast majority of Americans under the age of 30, including those posting on this board, are communists and supporters of Zohran Mamdani and the Democratic Socialists of America. Communism is a resentment-based ethos that culminates in anti-heterosexual, anti-white, and anti-male sentiment in the modern day, just as in Marx’s day it was predominantly a Jewish anti-European doctrine. Nearly every American is a leftist and self-hating white, who support illegal immigration and the destruction of white America.I don't think most white Americans, especially those who like Trump, realize how much leftists, progressives, and many liberals hate them. It's a joke to them and many of them aren't even entirely serious. It's a lot of visibly angry dumb guys yelling or laughing about things. They don't realize how much they're actually hated. They legit think they're Nazis. They fantasize about genociding Southerners after the Civil War. A lot of MIGA tards just want White leftists to be pro America and shut up. Leftists don't want the same. They want white people dead. They want their kids to suffer. They don't realize leftists are seething with hatred and they're not these little harmless dorks. They're unhinged people. It's not a joke to them. They're savages.
>>540119986Who trains the ai?
>>540119986>aiSure lets use up all the water and energy around while making more noise just to pretend your shitty commie gobildilygook fantasy can be possible.
>>540119986You're getting an authoritirian surveillance state regardless. The only question is do you want the people who implemented to profit at your expense.>>540120382 This conversation is just beginning, it'll take years. AI will advance while we work out the details.Gotta punish the billionaires for their crimes against humanity
>>540119681>Muh subsidies
>>540119263New Yorkers deserve this guy. They are terrible people.
>>540119263So in this case, people stealing from the stores (which will be VERY commonplace) will benefit the owner?
>>540120456youthen itself.we have time
>>540119263Imagine Wall Street billionaires taking the hour train ride with 2 switches to Harlem to save 30% on produce. Keep that image in your mind for a minute. Then ask yourself, "Is this likely?"If you answered, "YES!" you just might be a migger.
this will fail like literally every other attempt at socialism
I like how he makes jews cry.#MamdaniPresident2028
>>540119263People who couldn't afford food can afford food now. That's what matters. That's better than just giving tax money to billionaires and data centers that pay zero taxes.
>>540119469He's not the mayor of the metro area, retard. He's the mayor of the city.
>>540120639So its just going to be old world communism with god-machine as a justification?>>540120612
>>540120703Don't you heard?Affordable food is communism
>>540120558>Gotta punish the billionaires for their crimes against humanityBillionaires are those who control AI, anon...
communism is archived through revolution and a civil war struggle. everything else is counter revolutionary and reformism.mamdani is just a social democrat. working class conciousness will increase once they see that social democracy won't worksocial democracy only worked when you can export violence and are in a period of growth because of coming out of a war
>>540119597no lol communism was funded and invented by the rich lmfao its a statecorp in which a select few hold all power and you the prole goy equally own nothing; not any different from Late Stage Capitalism or Fascism, all three systems to create the Statecorporation with a monopoly on everything, have fun being a "free democratic agent" when everything you believe is state sanctioned and decisions you make are brainwashed topdown. as is the case with all these authoritarian gay and fake systems, we need constant resets of capitalism like the purge not goymunnism
Do you guys remember that before Trump got elected for the first time, eggs and toilet paper were so fucking cheap that teenagers used to throw them on houses as a prank?Crazy how things can change fast when you elect a retard.
>>540120445You are quite knowledgeable about the USA.
>>540120946kek is toilet paper and eggs expensive in ur shithole
>>540121020Nah, a dozen eggs cost less than a dollar.
>>540120925>we need constant resets of capitalismDon't you feel silly asking for this shit all the time?
>>540119263this is what the browns on this shithole board want though. this is peak politics for them. stealing money from whites and america.
>>540119597>the issue with communism is its prcan you subhumans brown shitstains go back to re-ddit? no one wants you here.
>>540121159youd only have to do it like once every 200 years
>>540119469This, how are 5 stores going to do anything? It's going to be like a Soviet bread line with poor people lined up 24/7 to get discount bread.
>>540119613>hyper-woke mamdani is going to arrest his electorate and niggersit absolutely will no be. taxpayers will have to fund the theft indefinitely.
>>540119469>>540119263- price capped.- no gouging- monopolies broken> seething intensifies
does no one in america have any issue with an anti-white, communist jeet from africa bossing them around and controlling the biggest city in the country? it's all so cucked.
New Yorkers are terrible people. You should celebrate their suffering
>>540121305Yeah and the wars and constant crisis are justto keep things interestingThe white race, a big fucking race mind you, is going extinct with simple capitalist regulated migrationImagine smaller races, like amazonian tribes or polynesian natives, you think they can wait 200 years so you remember to reset the extinction event?
>NY under jewish, italian and irish rule: |>NY under Paki > : ( Plenty of non-Whites have been there. Stop complaining.
>>540119263Everyone saying this will fail underestimates a government's drive to subsidize initiatives.It won't fail in the sense that shelves will be empty. The stores will not close. Instead NYC residents (and therefore Albany and Buffalo) will just be required to pay $XX million to keep these places open. It's just welfare in the form of a store.
Commies have so much rhetoric and then they do stupid shit like this, indicating they don't even have a basic understanding lf how society works.
>>540120735we wont have a permanent politician/party leader. And will utilize modern technology to oversee production and monitor and respond to resource allocation due to real time monitoring of need.No permanent upper class means no permanent corrupting of the system to ensure holding power at the expense of others.
>>540119263>tfw they get what they fuckin deserve
>>540121428there is no "gouging" in grocery stores, you subhuman nigger commie.>cappedAt a loss. the loss for every item will have to be covered by taxpayers.>monopolies brokenThere are probably dozens of grocery store chains in NY. What monopolies? These stores will ravage the competition which can't afford to throw money away, though and clean out all other food suppliers in their vicinity.
>>540121612Youre too much of a coward to do anything about it.
>>540120925>not any different from Late Stage Capitalism or FascismObjection.Under National Socialism you don't get any Jews or pajeets, unless you live in Israel or India.
>>540121628the only things you have to understand about commies is they only care about their own power, and to that end they are trying to make current conditions as bad as possible in order to get themselves into power.
>>540121628they understand what they're doing. this scheme will funnel white perople's money to the brown hordes that recently arrived to the city. This is the whole point.
>>540119263>buy groceries in New York City at 30% discount>drive outside of the city, sell them at a 10% discount>pocket 20% profit per trip at the city taxpayer’s expenseThey are going to get absolutely raped by arbitrage opportunists
>>540119263Who cares about a jewish city in the United states?Its a failing nation with more debts than greece.Either start paying them back or start facing the heat, and the pressures on, a month remains.
>>540121537well im sure someone smarter could come up with a better solution but my main point still stands communism nor LSC is the solution
>>540119469They exist to lower the general cost of groceries by being the cheapest place in the areas they exist in which causes other businesses to gouge people less due to a loss of business. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know that people are going to shop at the cheaper store. It’s a grocery pricing reset. Retard.
>discountLol. These will just end up becoming food banks for niggers and a jobs program aka adult daycare for women and fags
>>540119263>grocery stores normally survive on tiny 1-3% profit marginsmaybe the huge ones. if you go to a regular one everything is 10+ % more expensive (than the same brand bigger stores) how could they have only 1-3% margin? Go to some paki shop and you'll pay 50%+ extra.
>>540119263Shelves will be empty within hours and people will be forced to go to non-commie run grocery stores
>>540121964You’re a fucking retard who doesn’t know a single thing about civics, governance, or macro economics.
>>540121897Communism managed to preserve white russians, not the drinkCommunism managed to preserve south american natives, I hope you understand the right wasn't very interested in the preservation of a measly race or culture and they just wanted everyone to pay and dieThey are the only ones and the only system that adress the issue of humans dying if they don't get enough circulating cash
>>540121835OMG, you literally learned how to start your own grocery store, but with extra steps.Instead of buying in bulk from distributors and reselling it with a 50% profit, you drive to fucking NY, buy a handful of shit in a place full of dindus and sell for 20% profit.How much can you scale this to the point where you can live out of this?
>>540119263>vote for a dem soc>get scammeddid spain not teach you anything
>>540119263TURN THE VOLUME UP!
>>540121795you will do nothing coward
>>540119263I get the argument that government run retailers are bullshit, I live n BC, Canada, and we have liquor stores that are owned by the government that sell liquor a bit cheaper than regular private liquor stores.HOWEVER! How is this different than your government artificially lowering the price of fuel/gas/diesel by tapping into the strategic oil reserve?If their policy causes the price of oil to skyrocket, then shouldn't the market fairly price fuel in order to reflect reality? Why are you okay with the government manipulating price of fuel and fucking with the stock market, but not subsidising food?I don't agree with either, but you seem to be picking and choosing when you want the government to step in.
>>540119263so it hurts niggers, and now jews are angry that their favorite bioweapon may be seeking greener pastures
>>540119613i repeat myself
>>540119263Welcome to the idiocy of socialism
>>540121378Yes comrade, thats a good thing.
You're right, everyone should just give up, and instead give Elon Musk another 1T to get rejected from America's top pedophile contest.
>>540122131>How is this different than your government artificially lowering the price of fuel/gas/diesel by tapping into the strategic oil reserve?I was under the impression that the way governments lower price of fuel is >significant portion of fuel price is always the government tax of it>when they want to "lower" the fuel price they simply decrease the amount they're taxing usI didn't think there was a "strategic oil reserve", like a huge tank of oil somewhere inland and they open tap when they need it.
>>540119597You people never actually try to defend your dumbass ideas.Instead you just deflect all criticism with "muh billionairs" like somebody else being rich suddenly means your dumbass plans will work.Tell me, how is anything OP said wrong?
>>540119263https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8LtQhIQ2AE
>>540122238its not any dumber than capitalism in america
>>540119263You're thinking about it the wrong way. It's just a food bank outlet that sells at reduced cost instead of giving the food away, and sells junk food at full price to encourage healthier eating.X% off certain items won't drive grocery stores out of business any more than 100% off from charities drive grocery stores out of businessThe main concern would be arbitrage, people coming in to buy 30% off steaks to sell to restaurants at a 20% discount and pocketing the rest. But again this is resolved by limited supply, the same way food banks are constantly empty. At the end of the day you can't stock a restaurant by grabbing shit off a grocery shelf, you need bulk amounts from a supplierThese stores will struggle with limited supplies and inevitably impose limits and possibly even means tests, but ultimately will be successful at feeding people just like food banks and their clients are
>>540122407(she stores her “prosperity” in adipose tissue)
>>540121913Too dumb to grasp the point awardDanced around the point without grasping it award Unironically shills for an astroturfed shitskin award
>>540119607You forgot:>its about furthering the encroachment of the state into the private lives of the people to create a cradle-to-grave nanny state.
>>540122407>A country made great by a wellfare system
1. Hunts Point, The Bronx (La Peninsula Site)>This area is heavily Hispanic/Latino and Black.2. East Harlem, Manhattan (La Marqueta Site)>East Harlem (El Barrio) features a predominantly Puerto Rican, Dominican, and African American population.3. Brooklyn (Anticipated)>Heavily Black (Afro-Caribbean and African American) and Hispanic populations.4. Queens (Anticipated)>An incredibly diverse demographic, primarily Hispanic/Latino, South Asian, and Black communities.5. Staten Island (Anticipated)>A diverse mix of Black, Hispanic, and Liberian/West African immigrant populations.CONGRATS, YOU'RE SUBSIDIZING FOOD FOR NIGGERS AND SPICS.
>>540119647By definition the government cannot compete in the free market.Government runs on taxes, so it does not experience market pressures.Grocery prices arent arbitrary you stupid fucks.
>>540122520Oh nooooooooo, anyways.No one gives a fuck except you. A retarded racist with a self inflicted victimhood complex
>>540122034Doing it in the way I described avoids regulation, rent, taxes, and inventory requirements. You can’t buy 1-2 of each item from distributors. All you need is your neighborhood’s grocery lists. People are willing to pay upcharge on groceries to have them delivered. Delivering out of New York can be done at a discount and still be profitable.
Security infrastructure, education because they decided to run that too- that's the job. Even after 250 years of having government and systems already in place so they don't have to build it from nothing, they can't do it. And this is from Macon to Seattle to NYC, these connivers are so busy trying to wring money for their PACs personal PACs LLCs foundations charity orgs and make sure contractors that are making bank from their actions pour money back to them they can't do the simple shit anymore, they are prostrate by their own wheedling. And voters make it all happen. Case in point- Last week, Metropolitan Transportation Authority chief Janno Lieber pointed to one culprit behind the steep deficits that loom for the state-run transit system: Mayor Zohran Mamdani’s free-bus push, which spurred more people to stop paying. Gov. Kathy Hochul will have to use her leverage to neutralize the mayor’s rhetoric — and to fix the upcoming $22.8 billion MTA budget for 2027, whose woes aren’t Mamdani’s fault, but hers. Lieber is right that bus-fare evasion is a crisis: With more than 48% of riders not paying, it’s nearly five times the rate of subway evasion. -- Has nothing to do with free or not free talking points. They can't do any of it. Not a bit of it. Technology to make bureaucracy and bureaucrats obsolete overnight. Pathetic you accept this and pour tax money into the grand theft. Fools of the highest order. If govt truly is representative of you the public you must be high caliber rip off artists the likes the world has never seen.
>>540122660if you plant the stuff and process it, you can have almost 100% profit and zero regulations too.
>>540119263Groceries and shelter should not be for profit businesses / investments This is a hard concept for boot lockers to understand
few stores don't make a difference in the grand scheme, but nothing is as quintessentially communist
>>540119263>city could hand $1,000 cash to 70,000 families instantlySo they could blow it on random garbage. No thanks, this is what's best for goycattle unfortunately as they have no self control or foresight.
>>540122729lol. Why not? So I grow potatoes and build a house, and then I should just give them to you? ok.
>>540119263This guy really makes miggers seethe. I love it
>>540122573I was told by the most brilliant minds of capitalism that at some point the market will be everything and nothing a private or the state could do to exist outside it
>>540119263>make the discount apply to everyone, including wall street billionairesBetter believe those billionaires' servants are going to shop for their masters there. They will even hoard for their masters there so there will be nothing left for the poorer people.
>>540119263You're missing the bigger picture where Mamdani's friends get rich on taxpayer funds due to misreporting.
>>540119469Haha. Mutts are stupid.
Funny watching everyone who doesn't live in NYC seethe and everyone who lives in NYC loves him.
>>540123155Is all a trick done when stocking, if they are gonna hog at the start you just stock with the high price stuff so they buy the most expensive and then restock with the rest so they can't hog cheap goods
>>540119263>>540119469>>540119607You lost tranny
>>540119263migger fanfic lmaoBig Z owns you
>>540123046I think you're just a retard destined to be a slave worker no matter who or what system is in place. Shit bro, you're probably making 4chan posts right now like its your job. I hope you do at least get paid for it though.
>>540122712You are absolutely retarded. There are people who drive around entire STATES to buy underpriced items from random Walgreens in BF nowhere to sell for higher in their stores.Answer one question. What if you could save 10% on groceries every week AND have them delivered to your door instead of having to go out shopping? No catch. Would you do it? If so, one of these people just made 20% of your grocery bill on just you. Let’s say that 20% is $20 for this example. How big is your neighborhood? A few hundred people? $20 x 200 people, (around 50 families), is $4000 per week in ONE small-ish neighborhood with a fairly tight food budget. Bigger neighborhoods with larger budgets are commonplace, as are apartment blocks where you can offload a whole truck at one address. Not bad considering the only expense is gas and a box truck.
>>540119263>dumb shitskin treats a fucking grocery store like a JIT industry factory>doesn't realize that most food in a grocery store gets thrown out>especially bread and the produce that needs regular care>even shelf stable food has an expiry date>now the taxpaying consumer eats that loss cost instead of a business>business buys less to compensate>consumer sees less product>shops elsewhere rather than trek to the so-called "cheap" store>store loses more sales>operating costs don't get covered>state has to dip into other funds or raise taxesAll I can say is that it's a good thing that all grocers in NYC aren't state-owned, if they were this problem would only increase in magnitude to the point people are forced to leave or consume whatever slop the state mandates.
>>540119263Stfu. If you stopped all EBT and gibs transactions at Walmart et al, you would watch the entire grocery market crater. It’s not inflation directly causing higher prices at the grocery store, it’s government gibs doing that. The exact same thing happened to medical care. Now stfu. Tick, tick kikes
>>540122350So, both are true. I live in a city that taxes gas like crazy, but if you go to other cities in BC, or even Canada, the tax is lower.So, yes, what you're saying is partially true. Again, I'm not for it, but that is different than subsidising it. The government is saying that they want to tax fuel use in order to pay for the roads maintenance, traffic laws, safety, etc. I can understand that and don't mind it.The strategic oil reserve is something that government started doing in the 1970s as a hedge against oil disruptions from OPEC countries because they placed an oil embargo because (wait for it) a war in 1973 involving ISRAEL.So, the thinking is that if another oil shock took place, like right now, they would just have this reserve of oil that they can release into the market to prevent energy prices from shooting through the roof and destroying demand. This is one of the reasons that you didn't see fuel go crazy in the last 5 months, when by all market logic it should have.
>>540119749wtf are you even talking about you massive faggot?
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Clear the shelves, drive out of town, sell on roadside for profit. Thanks, taxpayers!
>>540121378You won't need to shop there since you're so wealthy then retard will yaIf rich people detest poor people that much why don't you all fuck off and live on the moon together. We'll be fine without you, the smartest people on the planet arent the wealthiest and never will be
