BREAKING- China is saving the West from price gouging Jews, one memory plant at a time https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/cxmt-plans-second-chip-plant-beijing-is-talks-its-funding-sources-say-2026-08-03/
Why don't they keep all the RAM for themselves instead of save the West? It's almost like they need the money or something...
>>540124456Dario Amodei is the next SBF, inshallah.
>>540124456>consideringmeanwhile their memory is SHIT tier quality and costs MORE than the big three.China can't save the west let alone itself.
>>540124456jews would be 2x more powerful without the chinese.they'd be raping millions of kids unimpeded.
>>540124615This. Ai needs the fastest chips and latest fastest memory designs. China is making obsolete shit fit for some Boomer's laptop so they can browse Facebook.
>>540124615>meanwhile their memory is SHIT tier quality and costs MORE than the big three.Jews already writing hit pieces even before the chips arrive, they know their livelihood and way of jew life is threatened. Anyone who knows China knows they crash prices by 50-90%
>>540124809> This. Ai needs the fastest chips and latest fastest memory designs. China is making obsolete shit fit for some Boomer's laptop so they can browse Facebook.First of all AI is a meme, there is a reason everyone is hiring back people they fired due to muh AI. They are doing DDR5 memory plants, that's decent memory for 80% of people Jew..I hope you get raped by a pack of feral spics
>>540124817Nope, it isn't some jewish propganda. Chinese tech sites and reviewers tested CXMT's memory and it was ass.The shit can't even run at its rated speeds most of the time because the quality is so poor. Normally you can jack up the voltage to help out but you can't with CXMT memory as its limited due to the quality of the electronic traces being such that any more voltage will physically destroy the chip.This is why they have to charge more than the main memory makers because their yields are shit because they don't know how to make DDR5 properly.
>>540124615Chink phones were crap too, now they are among the best.China is surpassing Japan and will eat the US in less than a decade.You will own a powerful, good quality cheap PC and be happy
>>540125124Chinese phones are STILL crap and they cheat at benchmarks to make idiot brown people like you think they are good.Even China's most reputable hardware review site exposed the practice and got cancelled for it:https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/1rfw6oj/hardware_reviewer_geekerwan_possibly_censored_by/And official benchmark companies had to completely remove benchmarks for popular chinese phone companies due to them cheating.
>>540124456Arent most DRAM is produced in SK? Not much jews there.
>>540125120none of that shit matters because we are in a ram shortage, which means that no matter how shit the ram is, if it fulfills basic JEDEC standards it WILL sell for however much CXMT asks for it
>>540125379It can't consistently even run JEDEC speeds according to the CHINESE reviewers. The wild variance and poor quality of the memory is a sign of yield issues as they don't have the knowledge and experience needed to make DDR5 properly. This is why its even hard for Chinese people to get their hands on the kit and even when it comes up for sale, it cost MORE than the big three's DDR5.So its a gamble as to if it will run JEDEC and supplies are very limited due to poor yields so good luck thinking they can make enough to make a meaningful difference in the DRAM market.Even financial analysts know this thus they have even written off Chinese companies making any impact on DRAM before the Korean companies launch their new memory fabs next year to start driving prices back down.
>>540124456>>540124615>>540125120>>540125281>reutersberg.com>muttcope.com>muttslop.com>ChinaDidnt readPost a real sources mutt shill and stop the obivious samefagging in your own thread muttoid. Nobody is falling for it
>>540124615I agree with this guy because he was molested at birth by way of ritual genital mutilation> This post is brought to you by a 7 year old Huawei P30 pro
>CXMT announces ramping up production (1)>Samsung stock nosedives, gooks kill themselves (1)>CXMT announces ramping up production (2)>Samsung stock nosedives, gooks kill themselves (2)This repeats for next several years, shit will be pure comedy.
>>540125817>>540125838>changs seethingYou know you hit a sore spot when tankies have to step in and retort with anger and insults.
>>540125344Bruv... I know you're a hooked nose Ukie, but at least try to hide your penchant for small children and foreskins!South Korea is the most pozzed and Jew-loving Asian country that has ever existed; they are the complete opposite of China.
>>540125875Funny you say this considering CXMT only started making DDR5 after stealing DDR5 IP from Samsung.KWAB
>>540125951Meanwhile in Communist China....
>>540125124muttoids just shit lies on the wall out of principlethey dont care if anything or nothing sticks they will just continue shitting everywherethey lie cheat and steal thats all these things donothing a muttoid says matters in the real world
>>540126069I know you are a pajeet because you are spamming this thread with nonsense and with a meme flagWhy are you so ashamed of where you were born shitskin
>>540124528That's what they're doing. Most of those memory chips are going to their own datacenters first.
>>540126141No, the real question you should be asking is why do you live in the US when you're so convinced China is superior and the future?
>>540126204How do you know this? Surely you're not just saying whatever on the internet because you can right?
>>540126304Just a feel. Most AI Datacenters worldwide have been bought but there's no supply of either hardware or local grids can't handle the load.
>>540126388>Just a feelAt least you're honest but stopped reading there obviously.
>>540124456why do we hate china again?
>>540124817This. Fuck kikes.
Common China WCommon capitalist L
CXMT copied samsung and is made by Samsung employees. I wish them the best.
>>540126069>YOU BLOODY BASTERD BICH>WHY YOU NOT HATE CHINA FOR? >BLOODY FUCK DO THE NEEDFUL YOU PUSSY MOTHER!Brown scum.
>>540126582Because of some old copypastas posted as facts, Western media(which we claim is fake news unless they post about China) and because they are commies(even though we also claim they are not, if its convinient)
>>540126964You simp for your master same as Serbians simp for theirs.
Chinese ram is illegal because it's connected to the chinese military and fails 30% of the time. It is also inferior in terms of speed because chink products are always inferior no matter how many chinkcope threads are posted.
>>540127439Changs stole the tech from Samsung to begin with and now they are having such trouble making it they have NO CHOICE but to hire another Korean company to come in to help them make DRAM.LMAO! So much for 'chyna numba wan'!It looks like Korea is the true tech powerhouse that chiense people pretend china is. kek
>>540124456THANK YOU CHAIRMAN XI
>>540127001China deserves all the simpingif they are our masters, then they are most benevolent ones - they don't install their rulers, don't force us to fight their wars, don't bend the rules in their favour by forcing us to accept China-favoured lawsAll they demand is that we recognize Taiwan as China and not meddle in their internal affairs. Fucking awesome.
>>540127769okay chang, thats why china steals from everyone, prevents certain countries from doing business in its borders if it get angry, tells countries what it needs to do in order to get special favors, then goes into other countries waters and claims it as theirs.Half of the chinese people want nothing to do with china and want to break away thus why the CCP cracks down on its people and then passes laws saying everyone has to have a unified culture and language. This is on top of calling everyone "han" when the true Han are no longer around.changs are worthless trouble makers who do nothing but cause trouble for others all for the greed of the ccp.
>>540124456save us great china daddy wanna game
>>540127769good girl
>>540128360dude, thats irrelevant to discussion that i had with that other anon you haven't even read my comment, and i bet you not even going toyou have this prepared set of anti-China comments that you just spam from your folderare you one of those 100 posts by this ID, who spams endlessly anti-China and then claims to do it for freefucking embarassing, you get paid and i won't even read what you write because you don't give this courtesy to anyone else, using people's posts just as jumping points to post anti-Chinese spam from your .txt file
>>540128412i wonder what happened to her now
>>540125934What does Indian call centres that china hires have to do with Chinese products?I mean, your entire arguement is that china produces sub par chips. A fact that Hewlett Packard discovered when comparing Japanese chips to American ones in the 80s. That American ones were shit in comparison.
>>540129093OnePlus is too broke to afford Indian call center excellence. kekAnd your chinese made chips are all crap quality and only getting worse with each new generation of tech. No matter how much you steal from your neighbor and the west will change that fact.
MIGAtards won't liket his.
>>540126304Anon, they are making those chips and none are hitting the market here on the west, so either they are making nothing or they are making for their own.
>>540129684OR they can't make enough for neither because their yields are shit.
>>540129684>they are making those chips and none are hitting the market here on the west,How do you know this?
>>540124528Wtf... others want to trade too? I need to rethink everything
>>540130006What's the answer to the question I asked though?
>>540124456So they have chosen war.
>>540129878How do you know this: >>540124528 ?All evidence points in the other direction. Other than every source of news asserting that fact, there's still little Chinese ram in the international market compared to what they're producing so it must be used mostly internally. That, and the multiple deals made by chinese giants like Huawei, Tencent and Alibaba to pre-order ginormous amounts of RAM and CPUs from the local manufacturers.TLDR: You make an absurd postulate and gaslight people by asking them how they know your ridiculous statement isn't right
>>540124456None of this artificial scarcity is about money. It's about making consumer PC ownership impossible so the Jews can control and censor everything (AI, gaming, speech, etc) through cloud services. You won't own ze means to compute.
>>540129752Well, last time the west tried to bargain with the chinks letting them buy chips they straight up refused and said they have their own. and since they aren't eating washing machines for new chips like russia it's probably because their chips are good enough.>>540129878Are you brain damaged?The chinks said soThe west confirmedHaven't you been reading the news that western chipmakers are shitting and pissing themselves because the chinks cracked their code?
>>540130195No, thats the Nvidia GPU which china only rejected because the US had backdoors built into it. thats the reason why China rejected it on grounds of national security. Nice attempt to rewrite the narrative though.
>>540127769who is this fluid druid
>>540130270Bullshit because they were still using the ones they bought from before the ban.
>>540130361those aren't the latest generation that was backdoored.
I'm waiting for a western-friendly HarmonyOS ecosystem.- I want to get off this Android "AI-powered scam detection" (for your safety, honest)"Google just rolled out AI-powered scam detection for Android" (1y old)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o_IUVYQe5c
>>540130331forgot the name, do reverse search
>>540130195>Well, last time the west tried to bargain with the chinks letting them buy chips they straight up refused and said they have their own.They were willing to purchase H-100s at the time. At that time, there were already talks about adding trackability measures and killswitches to GPUs to avoid China circumventing the blockade. Then, the CCP banned the alternative GPUs offered after having discovered backdoors integrated into those systems.
>>540130361>Bullshit because they were still using the ones they bought from before the ban.On July 31, 2025, the Cyberspace Administration of China summoned Nvidia to explain the backdoors found in their H20 alternatives to H100s
>>540124615>Look at my heckin' cherry picked etailer listings in my LLM written article.
>>540130431Ah yes, because they only thought of putting backdoors on the second time they sold them, silly burgers.
>>540130577They only added them afterward, yes. And only on the specific models engineered to be exported to China after the ban came into effect and the Nvidia CEO begged Trump to allow him to sell GPUs to China. This simply had to be among the conditions of his retarded administration.
>>540130103>All evidence points in the other directionpost it then>>540130195>The chinks said sopost link
as i understand it:- china builds it's own fab using imported parts from US, Netherlands and Japan- recent CXMT DUV is a low-tech version without imported components
>>540126304>How do you know this? From official sources, China have roughly 1.4b people. They have quite big domestic market for memory chips. For customer PC, for surveillance camera systems, to facial recognition servers.If chinese can use domestic chips, then it affect how much Samsung or SK Hynix can sell memory chips in China.More chinese chips gets sold in China, more korean chips remain available for rest of the World.
>>540130553show us the cheaper prices from a reputable retailer then, chang>>540130577first you claim they aren't backdoored now you're implying they were always backdoored. lolchangs aren't very good with logic, especially when they are buttmad when people expose their bullshit propaganda.Korea is an actual tech powerhouse, china just pretends online that it is one.
>>540131397Zhango, Korea's exports to China has been booming in record number and its mainly DRAM that is driving it.If you zhangs are making so much magical DRAM (which you aren't), why do you guys import records amounts of DRAM from Korea and still need Korean DRAM factories in China?LOLChangs are fucking full of SHIT and have to make up bullshit out of thin air.
>>540131109https://www.cnbc.com/2026/07/31/cxmts-sk-hynix-samsung-micron-memory-chip.html>CXMT will expand into making HBM but faces challenges due to lack of access to lithography tech.>The company is supported by strong domestic demand in China.Another one, this time the shanghai stock exchange:https://english.sse.com.cn/news/newsrelease/voice/c/c_20260710_10825103.shtml>The company also remains heavily dependent on the domestic market. According to its prospectus, overseas sales excluding Hong Kong accounted for only 3 percent of total revenue last year.This is the result of a 5 minute google search. It's not that you didn't know or were lazy it's just that you're a disingenuous liar.
>>540131397>From official sources,post them. you won't because you can't>>540131954neither of those articles say what the anon I was responding to said. try again
>>540124456Chink RAM is only slightly less expensive than top-tier brands and the quality is what you would expect from chink shit.
>>540126304>How do you know this?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiPgSm62fiM"China Just Built What ASML Feared Most" - Anastasi In Tech- the DUV is clunky, outdated; but they are now 'supply-chain free'- we don't expect them to catch up to us for 5 years - but we can't block components anymore
>>540131954>HBMHow are changs going to make HBM when they can't make easier DDR5 properly?Also, Korea isn't going to license HBM to China. Korea developed HBM and owns the patents and IP for it.Again, Korea is the true tech powerhouse that chinese pretend online that they are.But I guess you changs will just steal the tech from Koreans as you always do.
>>540132007>neither of those articles say what the anon I was responding to said. try againIt is specifically saying that. He stated that Chinese DRAM is used locally and not hitting the west and you asked him how he knows that, that's when in interjected so this asserts his statement:>The company also remains heavily dependent on the domestic market. According to its prospectus, overseas sales excluding Hong Kong accounted for only 3 percent of total revenue last year.
More competition is always good, but I'm more-so looking forward to when the big firms stop wasting all the hardware on nonsense. Although their plan to waste energy on nonsense is also bad, I assume it won't go through (for various reasons.)
>>540132213Apparently, 30% of all new Android Rams used in newly manufactured chinese phones comes from CXMT alone based on my findings. Chinkphones is like half of their RAM needs.
>>540131874>If you zhangs are making so much magical DRAMHere in Latvia, we do not have many chinese. Baltics are considered as kinda "bad place" for chinese investments for like a decade. Started, when Lithuania opened consulate of Taiwan in Lithuania, and called it like that. Not "consulate of Taibei", as other countries tend to do, to appease chinese.Chinese investments halted like overnight. Baltics were sticking together, thus it affected us all. At the end, we even pulled EU in trade war with China.No, I am not one of few chinese who remained here (we have fuckton of jeets though).But now about more of thread topic. In China, there was multiple tech companies, which operated almost exclusively (at least initially) in China. Like, mobile phone companies. Who used some "borrowed" design or tech choices from western companies. So to not get sued for pattent infringement, they just remained to operate in China. Later some expanded to places like China. Probably central asian *stan countries too.And there is good chance that with CXMT will be similar. That they can comfortably operate in China. When they will have more matured lithography tech.And I benefit from that, because instead of 700% markup RAM, will be able to purchase 500% markup RAM. From Micron, Samsung or SK Hynix.
>>540132373cheaper DDR4 and DDR3 that the big three dumped because it wasn't as profitable as DDR5 and HBM, and soon DDR6. kek, china is always generations behind. Why? You're so smart and innovative I thought based on all your online boasting.
>>540132424The shill is gaslighting you into having to justify the fact you're not a person of interest
>>540132159yeah I wasn't asking for some youtube video lmao
>>540132007>post them. you won't because you can'thttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_ChinaAt bottom of page, there is list of sources. Click on "China Population Census Yearbook" you like, and use translation tool you prefer.
>>540124615>same price>just getting startedKoreans in trouble
>>540132723enjoy that 50 cents you pinkie fucktell Xi to stop stealing. it makes china look bad and weak. kek
>>540132723Why can Chinese goods only compete on price? Why don't you try selling for more rather than less? How are you suppose to climb the value chain and escape the middle income trap if you can't do this?
>>540125124
>>540124456Prices legally cannot go down in most markets. If you're the CEO who pushes lower priced ram even if you've got the supply to make the difference back. You'll get sued into oblivion by your board of investors for not pricing your ram similarly to the competitors who are price gouging. Why the fuck would any of your stakeholders tolerate you being in a position to sell more chips than your competition for the same price that's already proving to be a mover?it's not post ww2 anymore, supply and demand aren't real factors in situations like whats happening with the computer industry.
>>540132818Meme flag, because you're from an actual sithole>>540132837Content to let the old cultural revolutionary people die off first before rolling out pension reform.
>>540133044>Content to let the old cultural revolutionary people die off first before rolling out pension reform.See how you didn't answer the question I asked at all? Is this 提法?
>>540133008In this case the build out is happening but theyre not pricing it any lower because there is a level of captive market and infinite demand
>>540133101Because the last faggot I tried to discuss economics with didnt understand that profits in a pure capitalist free market was an inefficiency.
>>540124456Where is my cheap memory?
>>540133257Neato, but what is the answer to my question? I don't care at all about your previous interactions.
>>540131561I didn't claim that, YOU claimed that.>>540130431
>>540133298Modernization efforts take time. They have the skill now, before they were running a low margin business around high volume cheap chips. The local government is opening up the money spigot and encouraging these companies to increase production and flood the market much like it did with EVs
>>540133324That you're a gay nigger who speaks to people like theyre AI
>>540133164exactly. There difference in demand between the a.i. and industrial computing sector vs the home computing sectors is so cartoonishly immense that there's comparatively zero money to be made satisfying the home/commercial side right now.
>>540124456Based, I wish them nothing but success
>>540124615These prices are insane and it has nothing to do with muh AI. You vill rent ze Bezos PZ powered by Nvidia in ze cloud and you vill be hapfy
>>540133520You can't answer the question because you're a bugman NPC and that's why I speak to you like one.
>>540133324I don't think they only compete on prices though. Ivonescimab (chinese) is the new gold standard for treating lung cancer over Keytruda which was for a long time the gold standard prescription medication for lung cancer (american).
>>540133008You can certainly justify pricing lower in order to capture more market share, especially as share is 'sticky', so that even if prices equalize, a customer is more likely to come back to the one who gave them a good deal etc. etc. Fuzzy feelings.Samsung has done this in many different segments itself, and it outright killed some of their competition. If any of the big 3 could ramp up supply to kill burgeoning Chinese firms, it would probably be worth it if they are worried about future competition. But this is more complex because of subsidies and so on and so forth.
>>540133688>I don't think they only compete on prices thoughName a Chinese luxury brand then.
>>540133537The captive market aspect is big too. They can satisfy local demand but ability to export might be limited, but also the ability to import chips is also limited. So you price at competition while refining the processs further to bring down the marginal cost before you get three years of chip orders
>>540133627You’re just trolling him and not engaging with the topic at hand though. None of us care about your jewish demographics arguments and what the chinks plan to do with retirees. They probably won’t just up and replace their entire population and outlaw being Han Chinese, that’s just a guess of mine.
>>540133044>china flag because you're in a shithole called china
>>540133824You can't answer the question either because no truthful answer is unshameful for China, so you change the subject too.
>>540133741Moonshot is a great brand. I downloaded their smaller Kimi model that can run locally. It was free, the weights are open and it doesn’t have all of the Globohomo censorship. The huge corporations don’t get my data by default either. I can mess around with it and experiment
>>540133741>Name a Chinese luxury brand then.You understand, that a lot of western luxury things (Louis Vuiton, Prada) gets actual manufacturing done in China?
>>540133693Once the whole oil crisis in the hormuszy plays out you'll see a lot more adventurous action by china. I doubt they are rushing to build out AI as hard as the west is doing when they're already trying to maintain their energy supply without destroying their strategic reserves
>>540133969I asked for the name of a chinese luxury brand that can compete on something other than price. You named a company that makes open source AI models that are free. Try again.>>540133974>You understand, that a lot of western luxury things (Louis Vuiton, Prada) gets actual manufacturing done in China?Right, and the chink factory workers get a tiny slice of that while the brand gets so much more. So why don't the Chinese make their own luxury brands? You can't name one for a reason babushka.
>>540133961I don’t even care what your question is. You’re just a troll in here trying to derail the topic. It would have been awesome to build companies like this here, it would have been fun to have a career in and industry like this. But you Globohomo jews decided we didn’t get to do any of that and gave the entirety of our economy away long ago through one sided trade deals, precisely to build up the chinks at our expense. Now you’re kvetching?
>>540134098It's because you can't answer it and that makes you angry.
>>540134055>Once the whole oil crisis in the hormuszy plays out you'll see a lot more adventurous action by china.What you mean with "adventurous action"?Could you elaborate more?Invasion of Taiwan?
No you're just retarded and people dont like you trying to derail and consensus crack
>>540134088>I asked for a chink luxury brand that can competeI listed a chink company that I really like their shit and is quite competitive. You’re kvetching that it isn’t what you like. Are we supposed to list caviar or skin care creams or some shit? We’re fuckin autists here man
Liber Novo is a fairly new Chinese brand of 'ergonomic' chairs that had a very successful international launch. They are indeed progressing to 'higher prestige local' companies in various fields.Also, they have a lot of specialty espresso machine that people tell me are worth keeping an eye on (I have had the same set-up for ~15 years so I'll never akshually know how good their stuff is myself.)Ideally, this specialty coffee equipment is fused with an Indonesia campaign because Indonesia n beans are extremely good and it would probably lead to good, new results (in an already-exciting coffee world.)
>>540134213>I listed a chink companyI know but I asked for a luxury brand, didn't I?>We’re fuckin autists here manStop trying to be ingratiating and fit it. It's cringe.
>>540134088>So why don't the Chinese make their own luxury brands?They kinda have. But they operate inside China.Because of 1.4b population, they have some domestic market for luxury things.
>>540133741>Name a Chinese luxury brand then.Has nothing to do about quality and everything to about marketing. Prada, Armani, Burberry and Louis Vuitton are all built on top of Chinese factories with final touch in Europe to get to brand the product as homemade. The fact you're conflating the luxury market (99% marketing) with something being high end or qualitative (eg, Zeiss and their photonics technology) says a lot about the distorted way you see things.Chinks aren't the same as in the 90s where they were mass producing junk. I mentioned Ivonescimab but also their EV battery tech is the best in the world. The world's first is CATL and second is BYD.
>>540124456Oh my god yes please let it all come crashing down.
>>540134289>They kinda have.Name one then. Why must I keep asking?
>>540134298You wrote all that stuff and couldn't name a single one lmao. Concession accepted.
>>540134167Nah. Democratic forces will take Taiwan. China is currently pulling probably about 5 million barrels of oil a day from its spr. With over a trillion barrels in it this can go on long enough for the Americans to deplete theirs. Once the US surrenders the strait, China will go back to refilling their SPR so thst it can outlast a Malacca blockade. Once they can ensure a steady supply of oil products to support the rest of the economy they will open back up the free money spigot. AI is pointless to build out further if your lights turn off and your whole economy shuts down.
>>540124528>Valuable thing is intrinsically valuable>Create more valuable thing>Use stored value to create even more valuable thing>Scrooge McDuck swimming in vaultlift up the yarmulke and let some air into your brain, it's suffocating
>>540134420Why don't they keep all the RAM for themselves instead of save the West?
>>540134342>>540134321It's evident you're arguing in bad faith and endlessly moving the goalpoast. You went from making up lies about their semiconductors, to challenging anyone to give an example of quality chinese goods, and then moved the goalpost to talking about luxury.Not that you didn't know that luxury is highly marketing based and tied to cultural influence, you already know that. You're just arguing for arguing's sake. A quick google search would give you mentions such as Shanghai Tang, Shang Xia, and Qeelin none of which you or i ever heard of for the same reason we don't watch Chinese shows.
>>540134412
>>540134420Don’t give that anon any more yous. He is just here to derail and be a globohomo jew turd.
>>540134298>Prada, Armani, Burberry and Louis Vuitton are all built on top of Chinese factoriesGarment manufacturing has massively declined in China.>with final touch in Europe to get to brand the product as homemade.That technicality doesn't work, they would still have to mention it was partially manufactured in China.The fact that I got to your second sentence and your talking points are simultaneously stale and wrong tells me you have no idea what the fuck you're even talking about. And I don't even disagree with your overall premise, because it's true. But you really need to do a little more research if you're going to open your mouth.
>>540134321>Name one then. Why must I keep asking?Like Hongqi. But they are almost unknown outside China, and may be Best Korea.
>>540134558Nah its just an LLM from Eglin which is even worse. It made the first post and then only responded to people who (you)'d
>>540134540>It's evident you're arguing in bad faith and endlessly moving the goalpoast.I'm not arguing at all. I'm asking a question and keep asking the same question so there's not moving goalposts at all. You just can't answer the question and it's making you upset and sputter like a fool.>>540134570>Like Hongqi. But they are almost unknown outside ChinaYeah I've never heard of them, that's for sure. China totally has tons of "luxury" brands that no ones has ever heard of outside of China...for reals.
>>540134655An LLM made you angry. How does that make you feel little bug?
>>540134544A feisty shanghai cpc faction loli being put in charge of china would be hot
>>540134412I mean, about that "adventurous" part. Some military campaign in Africa, if some Ngubu decides not to honor agreement they signed?At moment, you are mentioning quite rational actions (refilling oil reserves).
>>540134750Chinas current stance is economic caution after Xi got a little too bold with his crackdown. Thats why the shift has been to more palatable things like having sex and han supremacy
>>540134821Ah, now I think I understand what you mean. More adventurous in economical aspect. More riskier enterprises. That it is not as political/military action, more as economical.
>>540134722>A feisty shanghai cpc faction loli being put in charge of china would be hotthere already is one...
>>540134679>I'm asking a question and keep asking the same question so there's not moving goalposts at all.Not true at all. Your first question was about the ability of the Chinese to manufacture goods without relying only on price competitiveness but on better quality. You got your answer with the examples of Ivonescimab vs Keytruda and their dominance in EV batteries. That's when you reframed your question to talk about luxury for reasons i already highlighted: they have their luxury brand that only evolve in China which i mentioned above because the Luxury market is 99% marketing and sales. These don't have notoriety in the west for the same reason their shows and cultural influence is weak beyond their borders.
>>540133598They are absolutely insane. I'm so glad I built my PC when I did. My 5070 was like $470 and my ryzen 7 9700x bundle with motherboard and 32g of ddr5-6000 was $550.
>>540134993>Your first question was about the ability of the Chinese to manufacture goods without relying only on price competitiveness but on better quality. You got your answer with the examples of Ivonescimab vs Keytruda and their dominance in EV batteriesNo those companies compete on price. And I keep asking for a Chinese luxury brand and no one can name one.
>>540135102>No those companies compete on priceNo they don't and they can't compete on just price otherwise no one would buy their products because these are quality sensitive sectors. Ivonescimab is the gold standard for treating lung cancer. It is functionally and inherently superior to the earlier reference medication, the American developed Keytruda.
>>540135102Just look at fashion. All the luxury brands are made in China. Kek.
>>540124528>NOOO YOU CANNOT DO CAPITALISM BETTER THAN US WHILE CLAIMING TO BE COMMUNIST THAT'S HYPOCRITICALCry about it
>>540135102For the EV market China currently produces the highest quality and most advanced EV batteries overall and their only serious competitor, the US, relies heavily on partnerships with companies such as Panasonic and LG in doing so while China is fully reliant on its internal manufacturing hub.
>>540134955Nah. Shanghainese girls are built different
>>540133463>Ah yes, because they only thought of putting backdoors on the second time they sold them, silly burgers.implying what exactly? That they didn't bug the earlier generation? Why don't all of you tankies move back to China if China is so great? Why continue to live outside of China?Why are so many Chinese fleeing China when they can so much that China had to crack down on sending money overseas?Even your glorious leader wants you to move back home because they are desperate for new ideas and fresh blood.(and maybe women who didn't turn out to be materialistic feminists who only want a transactional relationship with a chinaman if he buys her lavish gifts, a home, luxury cars and gives a huge bride price). No wonder marriages in china are tanking and birth rates falling below 1.0So much for chyna being numba wan
>>540124817>Anyone who knows China knows they crash prices by 50-90%Maybe for plastic trinkets, but not for things that actually cost money to produce.
>>540125120Nobody normal overclocks you Hindu faggot
>>540135102>And I keep asking for a Chinese luxury brand and no one can name oneWhat's an American one? If you ever want to buy a really luxurious watch / suit / yacht / perfume / pair of shoes / jewelery / art / liquor / car / piece of design furniture / pair of glasses or sunglasses, chances are very high that it comes from Europe.
>>540135380Zhango, stop ignoring the highlighted parts. Your chinkware can't run stable consistently because its made like shit. Thats why they are saying it can't scale with voltage which is normally helpful in making memory stable even at JEDEC speeds. That points to being at the mercy of the quality of the dram you get and hope and pray it isn't total shit.CXMT == Tofu Dreg Dram
>>540135198>No they don'tNo they do.>>540135255>Just look at fashion. All the luxury brands are made in ChinaRight but why aren't they Chinese brands?>>540135263It's not competing though. They can't compete except on price as I say.>>540135309>For the EV market China currently produces the highest quality and most advanced EV batteries overallSo why do those batteries only compete on price? Why can't the Chinese companies that make them charge more than American batteries?
>>540135462>What's an American one?What industry are you interested in.>chances are very high that it comes from EuropeEurope does dominate luxury brands same as Japan does. They're both still much poorer than the US though because it's a small market share ultimately, compared to what Apple has for example.
>>540124528They don't need your money you retarded cuntstain, they need oil and other resources they don't have, and to get oil they need to give something in turn - like Yuan, and Yuan has value only if you can buy something useful with it - like glorious Chinese CXMT RAM sticks.Stupid cock munching faggot
>>540125120>Normally you can jack up the voltage to help out but you can't with CXMT memory as its limited due to the quality of the electronic tracesThis isn't even how overclocking is done these days. They do undervolting and curve optimization.
>>540135549>So why do those batteries only compete on price? Why can't the Chinese companies that make them charge more than American batteries?Their batteries are better and they sell more EVs than you, not just in China but also worldwide and they're also making bigger margins than you all while being competitive in price for two reasons:1- They're interested in bankrupting you out of the market, not just in maximizing the cash they make. They want to take all the market share. If you're substantially cheaper, you take customers away from them.2- They already make more margins than you do because the raw materials come from their country, because the costs of manufacturing are cheap, and most importantly, because they control the whole supply chain from A to Z unlike you who have to rely on foreign actors. The very lithium mine that BYD uses is part of the company's hub.So in addition to making higher quality EVs, they already have also have significantly lower costs of production which gives them leyway in pricing their goods to be sold.
>>540135837Thats for CPU's you dumb ass. Memory inherently operates differently due to the capacitance needed. Thus to get more performance and/or STABILITY, you need to apply more voltage.Guess why every performance memory kit has EXPO/XMP settings that increase voltage? Now sit and learn before you talk nonsense.
>>540124456BLOCKED
>>540135696>27+ pbtID>All are: "redpill me about my American intellectual disability?"
>>540124456this is like annuda shoah, we can't let the goyim afford the hardware to run local models
>>540136346Shouldn't you be supportive of the Italian diasporafag?
>>540135763good seethe, thx chink>>540135972>Their batteries are betterSo why do they sell them for less then? This is what I'm asking? Why must they compete on price if they're better?
>>540136198What part of what I said made you angry? The stuff about you being poor?
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>>540135375I'm going to break it down for you retard, do you think the us feds are retarded? If the second shipment was bugged like YOU claimed, then the first one would be too>Yeah guys lets sell this to our biggest enemy and don't put a backdoor on itThey didn't buy because of the backdoors, they didn't buy becauseA. They don't needed because they have their own chipsB. Why the fuck would they pay to be tied with a deal with the US for absolute no reason
>>540129357>afford Indian call center excellence. kekCurse vishnu if you're a filthy dog raping poojeet
>>540136431>So why do they sell them for less then? This is what I'm asking? Why must they compete on price if they're better?Do you suffer from debilitating reading comprehension deficiencies or does ignoring the answer and repeating your mantras your one-trick pony go at sophism?I'll gladly repeat myself:1. They must compete on prices because they're after the marketshare maximization. In other terms, they also want to deny you the buyer with a tight budget who's ready for the compromise. 2- The perceived comparative loss assumes your price tag for EVs isn't already inflated, it is. And it is because your costs of production are excessively high, unlike the Chinese who's costs are very low. You're handing them an opportunity where they can make good margins and deny you the value proposition of better pricing thus attracting more customers, why shouldn't they?
>>540124528great new cope just dropped. china just bought 400 million tonnes of basedbeans from the US. why don't america keep those basedbeans and feed themselves? do those yankees need the money? oh, i see. it's a business
>>540136431to undercut competeition which is a good thing
>>540136115Apple negotiated, that Apple can use chinese memory chips for phones which will be used inside China.
>>540124528Nigger you are fucking retarded
>>540136652>I'm going to break it down for you retard, do you think the us feds are retarded? If the second shipment was bugged like YOU claimed, then the first one would be tooYou dumb chang. You said they are still using the ones before the ban implying that they aren't backdoored. And I correctly pointed out it was newer generations that had the backdoors that caused China to hit pause. Then you goes on implying they didn't only backdoor the newer generation, implicating that all generations are backdooredIts not hard to follow your broken logic but it is for you thus you're the one with the logical fallacy.>>540136660seethe at the truth. that is your business.
>>540124456Fucking chink shill. China isn't "saving the west", the only reason they're doing this is to hurt western businesses and shareholders. They don't give a fuck about you or me, they just want to see the world burn.
>>540136710>They must compete on prices because they're after the marketshare maximization>>540136805>to undercut competeition which is a good thingRight and this is why the US and EU have tariffs on chink EVs. You two don't like that do you?
>>540130055You're really fucking stupid
>>540136871>>540137058beep boppers seething lmao
>>540136894>seethe at the truth. that is your business.Go fuck a cow you filthy dirty poojeet, you're literally wasting your time seething about chinks when the only important thing you export to the world being fucking rice.Nigga you live in a fucking cesspool of disgusting filth, even african countries are cleaner and less polluted than yours, go worry about that.
>>540137085I just answered your question boy
>>540137025>Right and this is why the US and EU have tariffs on chink EVs. You two don't like that do you?Lol of course i don't and rightfully so. I've seen the US bully nations not to set protective tariffs because muh liberalism and the second someone else performs better than them they throw all their alleged values and switch their stance. Just to keep things strait. What China does does not warrant any tariffs or bans. They're not dumping prices as in selling at a loss. They're making their margins and in the case of EVs, generous ones. They just engineered a vastly more efficient supply chain than yours that includes everything from the mine to the port with all the annex industries that they'd need to rely on. Trying to being price competitive to gain more marketshare is the cornerstone of capitalism and what companies throughout the west have been doing.PS: Trying to block them from selling their goods in your country and creating a bubble around yourself will hinder your growth rather than help.
>>540137215says the chinaman in africa
>>540124528>People produce goods and services to sell themWow
>>540136973Oh no! Not the poor kikerinos price gouging everything in existence!
>>540137317There's one (1) shill here, and it's you. And you're likely paid for this too. You're also the only person here resorting to accusatory inversion and calling others chink. Lol, and to an African now? As if the continent wasn't already unanimously supportive of China. No, anon has to be one of the only 200 chinese that live in Gambia.
>>540137316>Lol of course i don't and rightfully soI know lmao. But you just explained why such tariffs are in place, so it's funny you don't like them.>>540137406So the do need the money then.
>>540137521The reason why such tariffs are in place is because the roles were reversed, to put it simply. They're not selling at a loss. They're making their margins and being too competitive for you to bear the brunt therefore you behave in opposition to everything you shilled for at the international stage and bullied countries who were much more justified in setting tariffs away from.
>>540137025undercutting is good for the consumer as long as the competition doesn't die out entirely
>>540137316>They're making their margins and in the case of EVs, generous ones.Weeeel. It is not as rosy as it seems. They had huge issues with overmanufacturing and oversupply of EV. They had a lot of manufactured EV cars essentially rotting on some storage plot.Yes, they have efficient supply chain. Are they actually profitable (considering that they had bunch of assets, which they did not manage to sell), it is under question and I have no answer to it.
>>540137498You low iq peasants think everything is price gouging, if you got to set the prices there would be no DRAM or even food, because your idea of a fair price is below cost, and everyone would stop producing to avoid losing more money.
>>540137517shill? bitch I'm the only one posting truth which is causing all sorts of chinese diaspora to come out and try to do damage control.China is a over rated country that still relies on stealing better and smarter countries IP. OLED, stolen from SamsungFolding screens, stolen from SamsungDDR5, stolen from SamsungLCDs, bought off SamsungEV Battery packaging to improve saftey, stolen from LG.Chinese are fucking over rated thieves and this makes chinese diaspora angry even though they know china is bad thus they don't live in China themselves. Korea is a true tech powerhouse, china just lies and posts propaganda online to pretend its one.Korean's do R&D, China only knows how to do S&C (Steal and Copy).
>>540137517It's so obvious he's a buttblasted poojeet and i know why.China rise as a superpower costed a pot of izzat, both have the same population both share a border and have good arable lane, and both got fucked over by colonial powers.Yet here we are, china rose from the bottom and became the world manufacturing hub, while the mighty baharat is the world's biggest emitter of methane.They lose izzat each time hear the word china.
>>540137806>They had huge issues with overmanufacturing and oversupply of EV. They had a lot of manufactured EV cars essentially rotting on some storage plot.Because its a ponzi scheme thats going to pop just like their real estate bubble did.
>>540137317That means that 0.0004% of children in China will be half monkey! I hate miscegenation, but doompillers just want you demoralized. Almost all Chinese women (and most women globally) think that niggers are disgusting.
>>540137806>They had huge issues with overmanufacturing and oversupply of EV. They had a lot of manufactured EV cars essentially rotting on some storage plot.Had, yes, and as a consequence of the enacted bans and quotas throughout the west which fucked their sales forecasts up. They're still the 1st EV seller and by a wide margin. 11 million EVs sold annually vs 1 million for the US.Whatever temporary oversupply they had is only contracting since then, accelerated by the oil crisis of the Iran war.
>>540126693Worse yet, their entire semiconductor industry is booming despite crippling export control on semiconductor manufacturing equipments. They aren't just building fabs, they're recreating the entire semiconductor supply chain inside China, something no other country has done.
>>540137977Too bad its being pushed by the CCP. Its been done before and its the true reason that caused Tiananmen Square riots.Chinese men were insecure that the government was basically forcing chinese women to 'please' black men.
>>540137913Anon, you're all conform copies of one another. It's as if you have a guideline on how to speak and structure your tought. You're a shill and a very obsessed and persistent type that immediatly resorts to accusatory inversion as soon as he feels threatened. Step your game up or sybau. The first rule of good shilling is to act careless about it and avoid elementary sophism while doing so private Sanchez.
>>540136894Of course the memeflag is retardedYou are the one getting caught in this backdoor shit, you brought it up, china doesn't give a fuck if it's backdoored, that's the whole point, if they did care about it they never would have bought in the first place.Literally everybody knows every piece of hardware on the west is backdoored retard, they didn't suddenly start just on that batch they tried to rope the chinks with.
>>540137948What chinese often like to do, is to do manufacturing at huge scale. Especially, if there is government initiative behind it.And yes, in this particular case, it co-incident with Evergrande real estate crash, which slowed down domestic demand.If there would not have been real estate crash, would they been able to sell all those manufactured cars? Who knows. There still are chance, that there would have been oversupply, but smaller.Some years ago, chinese had issue with over-manufacturing bicycles.
>>540138160no, you need to believe I"m a shill in order for you to cope at the truth I've been telling about how china is a paper dragon when it comes to tech.China needs to stop stealing and learn to actually innovate and lead for once.>>540138198>more babble about how he isn't a fool even though all of the posts are there for anyone to read.When changs are in a hissy fit, they really get sloppy.
>>540137913Imagine thinking consumers care about R&D vs S&C
>>540138387you're the dumb ass who doesn't even know how memory works so of course you'd say such a stupid strawman.never did I mention coomsoomers. dumb ass.
>>540124528The hilarious thing is that you probably imagine yourself to be smarter than the average person
>>540138303Again with the cheap rethoricaly sophistries? Can't you learn to keep a low profile? Take the time to read your posts, you sound like a missionary propagandist. You don't speak facts, it's only big words, appeals to emotion and finger pointing. the truth, cope, paper dragon, tiananmen square, evil, communist, collapse, damage control, etc.. The same signature soup of words.Just enrich your vocabulary, keep your composure and feign carelessness and you'll be more successful at your job
>>540138016>Whatever temporary oversupply they had is only contracting since then, accelerated by the oil crisis of the Iran war.Dunno. Oil crisis slow down economical growth, which leads to less of disposable income. Which in theory should lead to less purchases of cars (either ICE or EV).
>>540138303>China can’t actually make any competitive techBut also>We need to ban Chinese EVs and AI models from the American markets because they would be too competitive with US companies It’s nothing but cope all the way down with you boomers
>>540138559Refute my statements beyond just claiming they are shill talking points. Just because you disagree with statements that expose your propaganda doesn't make me wrong. It just exposes how bothered and worked up you are.>>540138642>has to misquote to setup a strawman I didn't say those words. Good to know you have to make up an argument to win.Btw, EV's and AI are things made in the west that China copies and steals.That is my point and your cope doesn't change shit.
>>540138624>350,000 EVs in March alone, marking a 140% increase year-over-year according to the Chinese Passenger Car Association (CPCA).>China’s overall EV exports grew by 77.5% in the first quarter compared to the previous year. >Volumes across the rest of the Asia-Pacific (excluding China) soared by 101%You could make a case for your perspective but the current events points in the opposite direction so far. The Iranian oil crisis wasn't fatal to the global economy in ways that would hinder trade in such ways but it served as an alarm bell to Asian countries that are over reliant on foreign oil to hedge their options.
>>540138772What is there to refute? You're kvetching in an emotionally charged soup of words and shouting chink at anyone who dares speaking with you. While arguing with others, i also read your comments and they're anything but "statements". Fix your agressive and emotional tone first if you wish to have a genuine discussion. As i said, you sound like a missionary propagandist.
>>540124615They lower price by increasing supply, not by giving charitable discounts.
>>540138941>every accusation is a confessionnow you're just rambling the same points.But I like taking every reply of yours as an opportunity to remind you and all other diaspora chinese that china is an over rated country that has to constantly copy steal and cheat.The US and Korea are the tech powerhouse china wishes it were.
>>540137818It is, the industry has a long history of doing that with DRAM prices>Muh low IQ peasants Who the fuck do you believe you're?! I can't even phantom pretending to be a elitist on a fucking Mongolian basket weaving forum.This kind of LARPing is just sad
>>540139054Prices haven't lowered you dumb ass because china can't produce any meaningful volume to date.
>>540139088>But I like taking every reply of yours as an opportunity to remind you and all other diaspora chinese that chinaYou already made it resoundingly clear that your only thing you always resort to for deflection is calling others chinks. Of your 32 posts in this thread, you already called 10 anons chink. I think the message was received, anyone who doesn't agree with your or anyone critical of your propaganda infused chimpouts is a chink.
>>540139233You have to compare with what prices would be if CXMT didn't exist
>>540139295you made is clear that all you have is to leverage the same accusation over and overLet me reimind you yet again, stop stealing.>>540139311it'd be the same as it is because china has no meaningful impact on the market as analysts have even stated.
>>540139384>you made is clear that all you have is to leverage the same accusation over and overYou really need to calm down man. Even your english is barely understandable.
>>540138835>>350,000 EVs in March alone,Hormuz crisis kinda started in March (or end of February). So those cars probably already were en route to their markets.Now, when we are several months into that bullshit, we more and more see impact on it.Germany are laying off thousands of workers in their automotive industry. But it is partially because their government decided to close remaining nuclear stations, while knowing that there will be energy deficit. Which made bunch of their companies unprofitable, which lead to bunch of layoffs. Higher energy (oil, gas) prices also lead to higher electricity prices. Which makes EV less attractive. We experienced it shortly after Russia invaded Ukraine, and we had spike in electricity prices (ban on russian gas). There was time, when it was cheaper to drive with ICE car, than with EV. Now things has more stabilized (more wind and solar farms), so EV in cost-per-km become advantage again.Will it be in other markets too? who knows.
>>540139384CXMT has about 8% DRAM market share by revenue, according to this. More importantly, they are working to rapidly expand production, which is what OP's post is about.
>>540124528>China sells high value DRAM to US>US sells ꜱoybeans to ChinaThis doesn't look good for the US.
>>540139519>Hormuz crisis kinda started in March (or end of February). So those cars probably already were en route to their markets.It started in the last day of february yeah, though i'm not sure about the en route to their market argument. 349,000 units in March but 435,000 units in May
>>540139117China has a long history of full blown assault against the west. They don't care how much money they lose subsidizing over capacity, they just want the rest of us to suffer with them.
>>540139774Did they bomb German factories?
>>540139518congrats on winning the english award. english isnt my native language but good for you.stop stealing, copying and making piss poor products.>>540139541the OP's article is baseless speculation. you have to learn to read headlines and bylines. when it comes to clickbait, they say things like "could" and "is looking to" or "plans". Let me know when it becomes real and they are putting quality product AT VOLUME onto the market. Its pure copium until then.Also, DDR3 and DDR4 markets that the big three abandoned are the main revenues for CXMT. They have no impact on DDR5, let alone HBM and soon to launch DDR6.
>>540139901>congrats on winning the english award. english isnt my native language but good for you.I know. Your native language is hindi and you're indian. That's why you feel the need to hide behind a memeflag. Mine isn't english either btw, it's moroccan darija.>stop stealing, copying and making piss poor products.Unlike you i don't need to hide behind a memeflag nor do i need to resort to deflections and call everyone around me chink. Going by the number of people you called chink on this thread alone, the entire board should be made up of chinks.
>>540139841They don't have to when we let them weaponize free trade and flood our markets with CCP subsidized goods. Our industries operate on such narrow margins that it doesn't take long before this unfair competition destroys them.
>>540124615>meanwhile their memory is SHIT tier qualityMA RETARDED SHIT EATING KIKA! I DONT KNOW WHY YOU DONT GET IT UNTIL NOW BUT ALL MEMORY IS MADE BY CHINESE. beside that their memory is not shit. It works fine for them.
>>540139901The mentioned new fabs in Shanghai and Hefei are already under construction. The speculation part is about an additional fab in Beijing.
>>540139762>though i'm not sure about the en route to their market argument.That impact on economy was not yet materialized. If straight remain blocked for another 2 months, things will become more ugly.In spring, bunch of our farmers decided not to plant some of crop, because of high fuel and fertilizer prices. How it was in rest of EU, I have no idea.Then there is Ukraine-Russia crisis. There was reports, that in Russia, some of farmers could not harvest their crop, because lack of Fuel. In Ukraine, they have issues with grain export, because Odessa port (and ships in vicinity) gets bombed.By now, bunch of fertilizers should be moving from Middle East to warehouses in the World, for next harvest season. Which cannot be done, while strait is closed.It is expected, that there will be increased food prices after new year (when new, more expensive harvest will arrive). And it might become even more expensive next year (not enough fertilizer)."Arab Spring" and uprising in Egypt was partially fueled by higher food prices. Thus, on background of less disposable income (more spent for food and fuel), there could be some new conflicts rising.
>>540140118if you know I'm Indian, why do you care what flag I post under? lolbeing this mad over a memeflag? nawh, you're just mad china is known for stealing and copying and making poor quality.you're so obsessed because you are emotional and angry. Learn to control your emotions. >>540140301again, let me know once they can make quality parts AT VOLUME.
>>540140149>They don't have to when we let them weaponize free trade and flood our markets with CCP subsidized goodsBoth European and American auto companies benefit from subsidies anon. What makes the Chinese competitive in the EV market is two things:1. They currently make the best EVs2. The same company that sells you the car owns the mine that makes the lithium, the refining and processing facility, every vertical integration layer of making the card, and even owns the car-carrier ships that deliver it. They have very low costs of production which allows them to have fat margins while staying competitive.
>>540139901>They have no impact on DDR5, let alone HBM and soon to launch DDR6.They do have an impact, because they are workable substitutes for some applications.
>>540140395>if you know I'm Indian, why do you care what flag I post under? lol>being this mad over a memeflag? nawhI'm not mad. Why are you argumentative and defensive all of a sudden? I just stated a fact. You're hiding behind the memeflag because you're indian and feel the need to hide that to sound more believable. To me, it's funny, not maddening
>>540140402Their margins come from exploiting forced Uyghur labor and raping the environment. What are we supposed to do, make slavery legal again and get rid of all environmental protections, just so the chinese can't undercut us?Better just to ban their products.
>>540140442show us proof. Even analysts show otherwise. >>540125698>>540140531sure, thats why you're unable to emotionally disengage from my posts because you're bothered by it.but stay on topic. We're talking about china's theft of IP and how they still can't make quality parts with it.
>>540140607>Their margins come from exploiting forced Uyghur labor and raping the environmentThat may be the flashy propaganda. The reality is manpower isn't really the dealbreaker here. As stated above, the same company owns the lithium mine, the cobalt refining facility, the lithium processing facility, the the car transportation ships and every layer of making the vehicle versus the western model of maximal fragmentation of the supply chain which means you're paying a premium at every turn.>What are we supposed to doI'm sure countries like Mexico, Argentina and Japan who were bullied into getting rid of their tariffs and bans of foreign products thought the same countries who are imposing them now thought the same. The answer is simple: evolve your economic model because it's clearly being tested. It doesn't mean it's faulty in and of itself, it means there are lessons that could be taken from the Chinese model in organizing and structuring a supply chain. Banning goods will prevent your model from evolving and just cost you the world's markets. Essentially, you'd be falling to the same trap the Chinese fell for when they decided to isolate themselves from the world.
>>540140711>sure, thats why you're unable to emotionally disengage from my posts because you're bothered by it.Is that so? I've been rather calm and composed so far. As a matter of fact, i'm not calling everyone who bothers me chink.
>>540137085No, you are a retard if you can’t figure out why China would sell a product.
>>540140711How is someone supposed to "prove" that CXMT has had an impact on prices? To "prove" CXMT had an impact on prices, you'd have to rewind time several years, remove CXMT from the market, measure how prices evolve, and see if those prices were any different compared to prices in our current timeline.In any case, CXMT started producing DDR5 in late 2025Besides, the text of your article doesn't actually say Chinese memory makers won't impact the market, it says their ability to "materially disrupt" markets is limited, whatever that means. It might as well mean that they won't be able to disrupt the market enough to make prices go down, not that they aren't slowing the rate at which prices climb.
>>540140946Yet you can't disengage. This obsession with being tit for tat shows two things: You're immaturity and secondly, your inability to control your frustration.And you can't even stay on topic anymore because you're too obsessed.Do you agree that China needs to stop stealing IP from others if it wants to be seen as a legitimate leader in tech?>>540141131So you don't have any proof yet you made statements of fact? Interesting.
>>540141163>Yet you can't disengage.Lol is that your new battle horse? Begging me to stop making a fool out of you? >You're immaturity and secondly, your inability to control your frustration.Lol lmao even, pajeet is relegated to clumsily trying to emulate me, i'm almost empathetic
>>540141328>has to resort to defensive deflection.Still can't answer the question. Should China stop stealing IP from its superior neighbors if it wants to be accepted as a proper innovator and leader in tech?
>>540140395Wow they paid to use a service and got their moneys worth? Its almost like the business model US LLM companies want to have is unviable if anyone that pays to use their LLM's can steal their stolen data for themselves to use and them release their own open weight models.
>>540141531>has to resort to defensive deflection.Why are you trying your best to mirror what i just told you? Is it because your english is that bad or because the only scheme you know aside from scamming is accusatory inversion?
>>540141741Should China stop stealing tech if it wants to be taken as an actual serious player and innovator in tech instead of always getting caught stealing from people who are clearly superior?
>>540124528Because chinks will sell anything, even their own mother.
Chinsect is grasshopper not antHe will devour the jew's freshest crops
>>540141914Evidently not, and your point rests on two fallacies. On one hand, the US themselves have been caught stealing IPs on numerous occasions in the past, the last scandal i know of being Snowden's files highlighting NSA's economic warfare on European and Brazilian IP including Siemens, Zeiss or Petrobras.That's what i meant when i said you're speaking with the same disinginuous loaded tone as a journalist. The masters of economic warfare aren't the Chinese, it's the US, and most of it was targeted at European companies most of which were methodically engineered to collapse by the NSA and CIA to turn that continent into a consumer market.Your question is also loaded on another angle, it suggests that Chinese can't develop their own IP which they definitely can and are currently multiplying patents. I've already mentioned Ivonescimab and the EV industry but ther list is endless.Funnily enough, even the 2 billion strong shithole you come from that is India has been caught stealing IP on numerous occasions in pharmaceuticals and software engineeering yet you're not even remotely as successful as chinks are.Was my answer satisfying?
>>540124695China may be the saviour of the World if they can knock Kikes down. I'm sick of the anti-chink propaganda.
>>540142402Your first point is classic whataboutism. The US eventually went on to be true innovators which leads to your second point. If China is really innovative now, why aren't other countries scrambling to catch up to Chinese tech companies? Even EV market in China is built off knowledge gained from western companies, especially Tesla and Panasonic.I don't see any meaningful technology that China truly innovated that is critical today.The overwhelming evidence shows China is still stealing tech and IP from others (DRAM, OLED, folding screens, biotech, etc.) which makes it difficult to accept that claim.And now you're mocking Indians? That really only shows that you're upset and resorting to insults. Sad.
>>540142711>Your first point is classic whataboutism.How so? You're desperate at trying to single them out on anything and you picked a point that is the trademark of Americans deal with competition and something the very country you come from is guilty of>I don't see any meaningful technology that China truly innovated that is critical today.They're the only country to have successfully engineered a thorium reactorThey created the best formula for treating lung cancer with ivonescimab, better than the American Keytruda. I just got notified in a short of a Chinese software researcher who managed to make the speculative path branching algorithm of GCC 10% faster. They just discovered artemisinin, the cure to malaria, they're the first to land an spaceship on the far side of the moon. They're leading in quantum communication and networking research, and they currently produce more patents than the US. What has your shithole (or mine for that matter) produced in comparison?>The US eventually went on to be true innovatorsYou're implying they stopped stealing European IP anon, that's a lie. Bad habits never change.
>>540142711>And now you're mocking Indians? That really only shows that you're upset and resorting to insults. Sad.You're a bitter and salty Indian trying to downplay the impressive success of your eastern neighbor when your have to dig yourself a path through the cow dung that fills the streets of Bangalore to reach your closest amenities. I don't have anything about India in and of itself, it's not as if i come from a country that would make me proud, but you deserve the schooling for being such a disinginuous butthurt fag that you have to turn into a missionary shill hellbent on speaking ill of China in 4chan 24/7 when the country you come from is by all means worse in every talking point you mention tldr: you're a hypocrite
>>540124615they are already implementing updated hardware to address some of the issues. they are all expected to be replaced by late 2027.it's going to take awhile but 5 years or so from now china will be mass producing decent quality chips.
>>540143476>I don't have anything against* India in and of itself,
>>540143301Do you not understand what whataboutism means? Who am I trying to single out? China? Because China is the point of this thread is it not? Do you go into a math class and berate the teacher for talking about fractions?Thorium reactors were pioneered where and when? Oh right, the US back in the 60s. China didn't pioneer it, they just took knowledge of it that was produced by the US and decided to build one for themselves. In case you ask why the US and other countries didn't pursue Thorium reactors back then is because it was cheaper and easier to make traditional reactors.Ivonescimab is another, albeit newer, form of an Monoclonal antibody, just like Pembrolizumab which was again pioneered in the US. Its just an iteration, not a new innovation.Moon landing and rocketry has roots in the US with Goddard and leading up to man landing on the moon. Again, its following a path blazed by the west.Quantum communications and network research, those aren't new concepts Chinese developed, its yet another iteration of existing technology invented in the west.I'm still waiting for a proper example of true innovation. Meaning something that is truly groundbreaking that no one has done before and isn't based off existing industries, products, and western knowledge.
>>540143483Yes, they are bringing in Koreans to help them with the tech they stole from Korea to begin with. lol
>>540143301>They're the only country to have successfully engineered a thorium reactorWeeeel. Thorium reactors were created by USA in like seventies. Also jeets have some thorium reactors.What chinese did, they built pilot project for molten salt thorium rector.Denmark company Copenhagen Atomics also works on molten salt reactors, but do not remember were those thorium based.
