>>540126872It's a fake language anyways and DESU most people here don't even use it. I just got out of rotation, the guys always speak russian when they're scared or heated.Fuck this place.
Is difference in Russian and Ukrainian really legit thing as they saySounds like exactly same to me
>>540126872globohomo lovers
>>540126946yes its two sepereate languages
>>540126872Ukrainian language and culture was born and developed within Russia. The only people who consistently killing it is Europeans.
what? Ukrainian language is even still official in Crimea, taught in schools.
>>540127062i don't believe it. I heard of russian soldiers attckinf civilians for speaking in Ukrainian. Thats just another version of globohomo ,Ivan.
>>540126872who will they make fun of then
>>540126937It's so true, even your flag is very genuine
>>540126872>Ukrainian languageThat's like saying "American language"It doesn't exist
>>540127415do mandarin and cantonese exist?
>>540127415It absolutely does.Ukrainian is a peasants language. Original ruthenian exposed to like centuries of polish rule
>>540127671can a pole without any prior exposure understand it?
>>540127168>I heard of russian soldiers attckinf civilians for speaking in Ukrainianwhere you heard it, in some pro-Ukrainian news? You know the meaning of war "Propaganda"? You know during wars they force millions into propaganda? You are not immune to it
>>540126937Because the judeo-muscovite bolshevists of moscow banned the language and made the muscovite pig language the lingua franca of the judeo-muscovite bolshevist soviet empire. So linguistic muscovitism lingers in the east. The language is older than muscovian, just as Kyiv is older than moscow, and the Kyvian church is older than the muscovite church, and the Kyivian Rus are an older people than the finno-ugaric-kadyrovitic-slavo-mongoloidish muscovite mutts.Hears a judeo muscovite who
>>540127767Basic words yes.Monologue no.
Not so subtle genocide thread.
>>540127767Ukrainian is known for the fact that their words are copycats from polishlike szanowny (shanovny) - respected/dear
Ukrainian is slav ebonics
>>540127921Because the judeo-bolshevists of kiev invented the language after Austrians tried to make russian-speaking people in their eastern borders feel different, 50 years prior. This is why the first ever ukrainian sytate was the jewish ukrainian republic.
>>540128054denkuie bolsho, pane boyar. Palyiyianitza! Literally that retard drug snorting dictator of them switched from Russians 10 years ago to some weird Polish dialect now.
They speak Russian in Romania. Why don't they go back to Russia?
>>540128492It's not a polish dialect. It's just bastardized russian with strong village accentIt's more similar to russian than to polish, but they have polish loanwords
>>540128769They speak jewish in Romania way way more, and srilankan. Why the fuck they are not forced out? As long as tiny historical minorities do not have ethnic parties, cultural gibs, assured places in parliament or working for foreign organizations they can be tolerated.https://files.catbox.moe/jblvu4.mp4Or organizing their kids into paramilitary formations on Ro anina soil (Northern Bukovina)
>>540126872Curious. why are we supposed to hate Russia again?and why does everyone suddenly hate your guts when you ask that question.
>>540128337See here, retard>>540127921In picrel. How could it have been banned in 1710 if it was invented only 50 years before bolshevism. Moscow is younger than Kyiv, you realize that, right? How can a bunch of people who live in a city, Moscow, that was created 665 years after Kyiv, 100s of miles away, be more authentic Rus than the people who actually live in the first Russian city? And, the muscovian language is also far removed from the source, and was effected by the finno-ugarics that the muscovite pig people mingled with.Muscovites are finno-ugaric-kadyrovitic-slavo-mongoloidish mutts. They are a hodge podge of different genes and cultures. All they can do is imitate Ukrainian culture.These are actual Kyivian Russians, as opposed to moscoloids https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Y91l086Ggw&t=335s
>>540129347because they're a huge country unable to force a much smaller one to capitulate, and who pretends it is all going to plan. it's pathetic.
>>540126872Ukrainians themselves seem to want it to die out, seeing as they all prefer to speak proper Russian when they aren't forced to use their pidgin dialect by the government. You can even see it with the "refugees", you hear nothing but Russian from them now that they can talk freely abroad.>>540127921There was no such thing as a Ukrainian nation or identity before your hated "judeo-bolsheviks" invented it out of thin air to combat what they called Great-Russian chauvinism. And the standardization of written language is a fairly normal process that has happened in every nation on the planet, and necessarily involves the marginalization of rural dialects. Also, Kiev was a turkic city before Scandinavians from modern day Russia conquered and settled it, and was basically a wasteland the size of a village for several centuries after it was devastated by the Mongols. Pretty much anything of historical note in the city was restored or rebuilt by the Russians, just like everything else of note in Ukraine was built by Russians, excepting the stuff built by Poles and Austrians in western Ukraine.
I honestly never understood the point of larp regional languages like Ukrainian or Dutch which are like 80% the same as a major language.Dutch should just speak English and Ukrainians should just speak Russian.
>>540126946I read once the difference is larger than Spanish and Portuguese
>>540129850Lexical similarity between russian and Ukrainian is about ~67%.It's about the same as lexical similarity between English and German which is ~62-65%.Imagine if in WW2 one of the main propaganda points was how English is just a German dialect, not a real language. This is how stupid you are.
>>540129969except the difference is basically like 0.1% of English speakers can speak English. 100% of Ukrainains can speak Russian and 100% of Dutch can speak English. Just speak the tongue that lets you speak to the most people. Honestly earth would be better if everyone just spoke English. Gods language.
>>540130131can speak German*
>>540126872because languages carry national identity and form culture. no ukrainian language = no ukraine. case in point: just look at belarus.
>>540130131>0.1% of English speakers can speak EnglishYes, I see that you are extremely stupid and love to pull numbers out of your ass.
>>540130131The entire earth already basically speaks English
>>540126872>Ukrainian language >die outThis is something the entire human race can agree on. Ukrainians are Russians and Ukraine has always been a D&C psyop.
>>540130235The point is, every Ukrainian can basically speak Russian. The vast majority of Ukrainians spoke Russian as the primary language until recently, literally Ukrainian politicians couldn't even speak Ukrainian, Zelensky himself couldn't even speak Ukrainian until recently.Ukrainian is a modern constructed language, it isn't even a historical language. Just speak the language that lets you speak to the most amount of people, by speaking Russian you can talk to basically a huge portion of Eastern Europe, Central Asia and Northern China. French, English, Spanish and Russian are basically the most important languages to know.
>>540130439>The point is, every Ukrainian can basically speak RussianThis is simply not true>let me tell you about your language and your countryFuck off.
>>540130332Honestly the rest of the world should just give up the larp and convert to Anglo dominance.
>>540130185Ukraine is a fake language and identity invented around 100 years ago.
>>540129937Depends on what you mean with when talking about "Ukrainian" language. Surzhyk, which is spoken by the few Ukrainians who don't speak standard Russian as their first tongue, is basically just a Russian dialect, having different pronunciations and minor differences in vocabulary. Actual standard "Ukrainian" is purely artificial and not actually spoken by anyone. It is also constantly changed by the government body in charge of its development so as to remove its semblance to Russian as much as possible.>>540129969>>540130235You don't need to lie Taras, literally every western nation has been exposed to hundreds of thousands if not millions of your countrymen, and they all, literally ALL speak Russian. And not just in the sense that they CAN speak it, but in the sense that they literally use it as their first language in ther day to day lives.
>>540130479>>let me tell you about your language and your country>Fuck off.The fact you Ukrainians literally don't know shit about your own actual history and I've had dozens of Ukrainians not even acknowledge they know what Pan Slavic Rus identity is despite being the main form of Ukrainian identity until 2014, yes, I will because like Ziotards, I automatically now just assume you're larping to not accept basic facts because they look bad for your black and white biases. The vast overwhelming majority of Ukrainians, know Russian, Ukrainian media is often in Russian, Ukrainian movies are often in Russian, Ukrainian politicians spoke Russian until the last couple years, Russian had a over 90% use rate in all Ukrainian cities until the past decade.
>>540126872What is the difference between theirs and the yellow russians?
>>540130683>exposed to hundreds of thousands if not millions of your countrymen, and they all, literally ALL speak RussianYou mean people who ran away from eastern Ukraine because they don't want to be "liberated" speak russian? How very surprising.>>540130696>let me tell you about your language and your countryFuck off.
>>540130766>Everyone just magically forgot a language that basically all Ukrainian media and politics was in 10 years ago.Sure dude.
>>540130766Russian as is spoken today was spoken in Ukraine longer than Ukrainian. Modern literary Russian dates from Peter the Great. "Ukrainian" dates from the 1870s at best when some redneck named Taras Schevchenko wrote some poetry books in some hybrid pidgin speak which nobody gave a shit about. That is, except for Banderist retards who hate Poland (and still haven't realized the Polish occupation is what caused Polish loanwords and pronunciations into Russian, which is what Ukrainian is) and their funders like NATO who wanted to raise them up as an army to fight Russia (and now are all dead). There, that's your "liberated" award. Being filled with jeets is next.
>>540127921>>540129595>Russian government wanted to enforce religious orthodoxy>Russian government didn't want clergy speaking funny peasant dialects like literally every other European country>Ukrainian lunatics 300 years later spin a story about their totally real language being suppressedGet back to the front, Mykola. BTW the Holodomor never happened.
>>540126937>>540127921Its a fake language because never before in history has there been such a strong push by a country to try and get people to speak a particular language, and even then they just end up using Russian anyway
>>540131053Actualy Ukrainian is only spoken by a small minority (who is also fluent in Russian proper). Just pray these people all get Russified back to their unmolested state and this nightmare finally ends.
>>540126872to secure iranian vector from the NW; positions in syria were lost but black + caspian sea total dominance achieved; kiev is threatened to keep forces fragmented; azerbajin is the russian version of saudi / kuwait / iraq horizontal slant drilling and pressure is running out; medium sour persian gulf petroleum is what both world wars and the post war dynamic is all about; our pharma is all petroleum based btx biproduct; same thing for plastics; same thing for fertilizer; it's repurposing heavy oil / diesel / jet fuel biproduct so the consumer world is tied to the petroleum reality of naval / shipping global dominance
>>540126872From tomorrow you must only speak Yiddish.What? Do you want to start another Holocaust?!
>>540131520i dont get the point
>>540131026>Russian government in a city that's 665 years younger than Kyiv>Tells people from a church that's 500 years older than the muscovite church not to write in the original language of the Kyivian Rus who founded the church.Makes sense.You're a retard. Did you get PSYOPed by watching you tube vids made by the glow nigger jay dyer into joining the FSB/GRU glowie spy network called the "russian orthodox church", so you can LARP as a muscovite? I'm not Ukrainian. I'm English on both sides. And I'm a KJV onliest fundamentalist. Unlike you, I can appreciate another culture without joining their church to LARP as them, jay. Kek. You probably ARE jay dyer. Clown.
The goal of this Jewish war is to remove the Slavic people from the land so they can steal it. The fighting will continue until the Slavic male population has been eliminated. Everything else is just distractions If the Slavic people are going to survive they need to be doing this type of forced recruitment to the jewish settlements inside of both Russia and Ukraine. The war will end almost immediately after they begin doing this. The Slavic people should not let the jews end the war until they had eliminated every last jew city inside of Ukraine.
>>540127921This is what bolshevism derangement syndrome does to a mf
>>540130766Most of the eastern Ukrainian population fled to Russia, their supposed "occupier," the people in the west are often from southern and central Ukraine. Their behaviour is also even worse than Russian bydlo, including the wealthy urban ones. Even your people's behaviour reinforces that you're nothing but provincial Russian yokels who fell for a LARP.
>>540126872Reminder to all of the retards itt who might have gotten remotely PYOPed by kremlin glowies into propagandistically force multiplying the satanic, disgusting, barbaric, duganist, russian world, civic nationalist, soviet revanchist ideology of the judeo-muscovite:The muscovites are a breed of sadistic, godless, heathen, gay raping, torturing, thieving, AIDS infested, alcoholic, drug addicted, vermin. They are the same as jews, as shown in picrel.>Despite these challenges, investigators verified 310 cases of Russian abuse, including rape and gang-rape, genital mutilation and applying electric shocks to genitals. Most victims were men, with 26 women and four girls also abused.There's nothing BASED or TRAD about them. And their country is owned by chabad lubavitch, russo-israeli dual citizen oligarchs (international organized crime capos).
>>540132040Muscovites are kikes. see picrel here>>540132261In picrel>Despite these challenges, investigators verified 310 cases of Russian abuse, including rape and gang-rape, genital mutilation and applying electric shocks to genitals. Same thing. Sadistic freaks, and thieves.
>>540132040Everything I said is true. Kyiv is 665 years older than the back water swamp called moscow. And the Kyivian church is in absolute point of fact older than the moscoloid "orthodox" church. And the Kyivian Rus are an older people than the muscovite race, who LARP as "russians". You're like the nigger hebrew LARPers, we wuzzing. Ye breed of mutts, ye.Here are the Kyivian Rus.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Y91l086Ggw&t=335sMutt faced orc boy.
>>540130479Show a Ukrainian that can't speak Russian
>>540132715>Kyiv is 665 years older than the back water swamp called moscowmutt historians are funny, kiev is also yonger than novgorod where the Oleg that conquered it came from. The same Oleg that supposedely started the Kievan Rus and made it a capital came from north kek
>>540131208Better solution. Just glass russia, no one needs this shit hole
>>540126872I don'tI actually wish piggers forgot Russian and spoke exclusively in their ebonics-tier clown abomination oinkingBut they can't learn it due to iodine deficiency
>>540130439Jewlinski didn't speak Ukrainian because he is a jew and he wants to exterminate the Slavic Ukrainian people so his tribe can have the land
>>540133122>Kyiv est. 482>Niggerod est. 859keep coping rusnigger
>>540126872It's Russian with 7 extra letters, it'd die out the same way an Irish lilt would die out with English
>>540132006or just stop the war. no more killingseems easier imo nobody has to dienow try to convince russian orcs with that
>>540126937Russia is a fake country invented by commies
>>540126872They're mad it's more purely Slavic than Russian.>>540127415Retarded take.
>>540126872It’s as if someone tried to kill it. Throughout the entire twentieth century, the USSR invested a huge amount of resources in it. Otherwise, it would have died a long time ago. The Ukrainian language emerged from a multitude of rural dialects. All the cities, however, spoke Russian. There was no need to fight it; it would have disappeared on its own, or rather, it wouldn’t have even appeared if Ukrainian nationalism hadn’t been forcibly promoted under the USSR. The language policy that Ukraine is pursuing now is literally identical to what the Bolsheviks did.But it’s still stillborn. The West supports Ukrainian nationalism solely to simply distance the country from Russia, and then nationalism will be suppressed and replaced with gay‑internationalism. It’s easier than trying to immediately re‑educate people into gay‑internationalism. After all, nationalism itself simply becomes a current thing™ that can be easily replaced by another transient thing™.
>>540126872Ukrainian to Russian is like Ebonix to English, it's fake, artificial and more often than not it collapses on it self, like who though it was a good idea to replace every e and o with an i, I mean look at "kyiv", do you see "keey" the founder of keeys town aka keeyev ->kiev
>>540131758I can read texts written a thousand years ago in Russian. But reading Ukrainian is impossible. Even Bulgarian is easier for me. It’s just an analogue of Hebrew. A 20th‑century language with a bunch of made‑up words that were deliberately made to be as different from Russian as possible. And it also sounds disgusting, like an illiterate peasant is speaking.
>>540139726> Throughout the entire twentieth century, USSR invested a huge amount of resources in itIn the 1920s only. Stalin reversed it and then Ukrainian language and culture were repressed (again) and intellectuals involved in Ukrainian activities were killed. There was also a deliberate effort to Russify the Ukrainian language.
its more like german and dutch. if you have time and 3-4 word lookup jokers you can read a newspaper article.
>>540140774if you are 115 iq+
>>540132102wrong. there's 4 million internal refugees from Eastern Ukraine and 6 million primarily Eastern Ukrainian international refugees in Europe alone. 1 million or less is in Russia, most of these being kidnappees who were forcibly given Russian passports and deported.
they don't kek, they've spent 13 years bombing russian speaking eastern ukrainians meanwhile kyiv, kharkiv, odesa, etc speak Ukrainian now when these used to be russian speaking cities along with most of ukraine, they singlehandedly strengthened ukraine language.
Probably because it is even worse than Russian.>ask some guy what his name is>he says Sergey>look it up, doesn't exist>ask for ID>turns out it was SerhiiFuck you!
>>540126872The slav niggers dont know what they want.I just know the nazis didn't rape enough Russian girls to death in the 40s
>>540126872>Why do they want Ukrainian language to die out?reminder that Ukranian is a dialect of Russiansaying it is a different language would be like saying southern drawl is a different language than yankee english
>>540126946I think it’s like the difference between portugese and spanish it’s mostly just a dialect actually.
>>540141074>i'm a retarded mutt who doesn't know shit and this is my postUkrainian is closer to Polish than Russian by far and Poles still can't understand it so how would it be a Russian dialect if the language it's closest to isn't even mutually intelligible you faggot beaner
>>540130696>Russian had a over 90% use rate in all Ukrainian cities until the past decade when the jews in Kiev demanded the east stop using Russian or face indiscriminate bombing
>>540138306>now try to convince the jews that they shouldnt exterminate Amalekyeah good luck with that one, dumbass
>>540141074Literally retarded plz kill yourself
>>540141167recommend avoiding reading bolshevik rewritten history
>>540141292my ancestry came from kiev, who ran from the bolshevik meat grinderso dont try to tell me what my family has been taught for the last 100 years, niggerI know, I know, pre bolshevik history is an offense to bolsheviks and dumb niggers who trust the words out of the mouths of bolsheviks
>>540127767no but a Pole who took russian in school and isn't a completely language-deaf retard, can
>>540141375>my ears are bolshevik rewritten historykys you 150cm shitskinned mutant. go clean a toilet for Goldberg Hernando
>>540141449Weird how same story but polish and its way off from yours.... hmmmm...........
>>540126872ukrainians are just russians. there's no difference between them
>>540138306If you want to stop the war the only way is to make the jews want it to stop.This is their war, started and perpetuated by the international cosmopolitan tribe, and the purpose of this war is to eliminate the Slavic people so the jew tribe can occupy their ancestral land unopposed. Draft every jew and the war will be over before they see the front lines.
>>540141590Miggers are just niggers theres no difference between them