>>540129923
what do you mean?

>>540129923
christcucks hate science because it makes their foreskin obsessed jew god irrelevant.

>>540129923
It's based on the assumption that you know the initial Uranium abundance, which you don't.

>>540129923
Let the metals date whoever they want!

>>540130202
>science, made by man, is more powerful than the Creator that made man
are you really this stupid, anon?

>>540129923
a lot of people simply can't cope if heaven isn't waiting for them at the end of their crappy lives.

>>540130299
>science, made by man
science describes the patterns we see in the universe
>the Creator that made man
no creator was needed for this. (You) just need a "creator" because you dont understand how the mechanism works (non equilibrium thermodynamics)

>>540129923
Why do you spend all your time thinking about Christians?

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>>540130407
>science describes the patterns we see in the universe
as i said, made by man.
>>540130407
>no creator was needed for this
math proves the Creator and it is irrefutable, anon.
you have to grow up now.

>>540129923
People hate it when you point out someone wrote their favorite story book.

>>540130477
you're that annoying. it's unreal

>>540130492
Even if math did prove a creator, it doesn't prove that the cretor is your jewish demon lord "Yahweh". That's just your own unfounded schizo assumption.

>>540130363
also this, all these abrahamic religions promise you paradise if you are a good paypig cuck in this world.
truth is they get scammed out of their money and no paradise is waiting for them.
most people cant accept they were scammed because if you get bamboozled it means you are a moron.

>>540130492
>as i said, made by man.
no, the patterns are created through thermodynamics and self organization.
>math proves
Math is a derivative of reality and not the reality itself.
usually jews and really dumb people cant figure out that math is math and reality is reality and are not the same thing.

>>540130583
while you could argue this, you would also have to take into consideration that only one deity has sent his only begotten son to save your soul.
so while you're over there trying to figure out which deity is the real one, i already know.
>>540130595
>no, the patterns are created through thermodynamics and self organization.
and the recognition of such things is man made since man's thoughts had to recognize it.
you are now more intelligent than you were before, unless you deny this fact, then you're basically a nigger.
>>540130595
>Math is a derivative of reality and not the reality itself.
incorrect.
math is a measure of the reality itself, not a derivative of the reality itself.
a derivative is the elements.
thanks for playing.

>>540130583
>Even if math did prove a creator
it doesnt, math is a man made language to describe patterns we observe in the universe.
one of the biggest mistakes in science is thinking that math is the reality. this comes from jews thinking the torah was made by "god" and since its full with gematria and math they think this means math is the language of god.
but its just a derivative and nothing more.
the foreskin eating jew demon god (projected on the planet/star saturn) isnt real. its a fake and gay god that has no powers and mutilating your penis for it for thousands of years changes nothing about macro scale plasma behavior.

>>540130820
>of such things
these things exist regardless if you know about them or not.
>incorrect.
nope you are wrong.
>math is a measure of the reality
yes thats what it means when I say its a derivative. you need to learn what words mean before you can partake in this discussion.
also the math is not the reality.
>a derivative is the elements.
no the elements are the reality and math describes them.
you couldnt figure this out because jews teached you wrong for the lulz because they think its funny if you are a clueless cattle nigger.
they also took from you the ability to figure things out yourself, this is why you are hung up on dumb jewish religions or fake jewish science or dumb jewish ideas like math being the reality.

>>540129923
Every chriticism of science they use is outdated by 50-100 years.
They think we still use fossils for phylogenetic relationships.

>>540130820
Kek. Again it's just another assumption. Even if jewsus was real, there's absolutely no proof that he's "the son of god" or got resurrected and all that jazz.

That's why it's called "belief". You simply believe. You don't know shit. You just believe in your ancient fairytales. It's fascinating.

>>540130825
Math is real. If it isn't, pour water into your computer and see what happens. Your computer is the result of math, and it works because of that - if you fuck with that math, it still stop working.

>>540131071
>Math is real
its a description of the thing not the thing itself.
you didnt even understood my argument and then came up with some stupid idea about throwing water on a computer.

>>540130934
>these things exist regardless if you know about them or not
and what created that existence, anon?
think better.
>>540130934
>thats what it means when I say its a derivative
incorrect.
a derivative must be derived from the measurement.
please try and be better.

you really need to grasp this very simple concept, you speak of patterns, i speak of THAT WHICH CREATED the patterns.
you are missing all of reality without the point of it.
the point is the Creator.
you are a servant of that which you see fit, but if you serve creation instead of Creator you're literally taking a knee to a fucking rock instead of Life itself.

>>540130547
>be anon
>learning about chemistry
>”REEEEEE GOD I HATE YOU REEEE”
normal, healthy behavior.

>>540131071
The only thing that destroys stone age religion is unrelenting force.
Why did state shinto vanish? Nuclear bombs.

>>540131071
>assumption
incorrect.
you just don't want to accept that you're not fully in charge of you.

>>540129923
the problem is i can easily speed/slow and reverse the process. proving that time is not even the only factor.
>>540130820
>>540130934
math is an attempt at measuring but is inaccurate. thats why pie will always have infinite decimals, we use 3 dimensions to measure space but reality isnt made of dimensions, the dimensions its another example of people mistaking math for reality.

Why do atheists get so mad about cosmic background radiation anisotropy?

Why did they get mad about the Big Bang until it was basically agreed not to talk about its implications anymore?

>>540131216
>and what created that existence
thermodynamics.
no jew god is needed at any step of this.
>a derivative must be derived
math is derived from reality, its not the reality itself.

>>540131273
>math is an attempt at measuring but is inaccurate
you are now sidelined into only being an observer of this discussion.

>>540131273
>thats why pie will always have infinite decimals
pi is actually 4.
also another big mistake from dumbfuck jews is that they dont understand that time is not a separate dimension but just a secondary measurement of movement.

>>540131284
>thermodynamics
and what created the thermodynamics.
keep going!
>inb4 "it just is."
nope, nothing "just is"/

>>540131279
>the Big Bang
actually never happened and is a failing theory that has been failing for 40+ years already.
jews prop it up because they need the Big Bang to cram in their fake and gay jew god.
but in actual reality the universe is infinite and has no beginning and no end.

>>540131357
>and what created the thermodynamics.
the transition from a simple dissipative structure to a complex one is determined by three main factors:
>the gradient
>the non linearity
>the bifurcation point
no jew god needed.

>>540131376
now you're thinking in reverse.
it's the jews that are against the big bang, anon.
you really just hate Goodness and want to use 4chan as a means to get people to fall away from Holiness.
You've already lost, the first horseman is president.
and there's nothing you can do about it.

>>540131396
>the transition from a simple dissipative structure to a complex one is determined by three main factors
and what created those factors?
keep going!

>>540131396
He's just going to ask "what created the dissipative structure?"
You're arguing with a 5-year-old

>>540131473
i'm correct, anon.
i know this for a fact.
i'm not like the rest of you, i've been beyond.

>>540131434
>it's the jews that are against the big bang
nope, all the jews in mainstream science shill big bang cosmology.
>>540131465
>and what created those factors?
they didnt need to be created.
>>540131473
yup its true, low IQ people cant into thermodynamics.

>>540129923
>uranium-lead dating
yes, uranium is the chad, thorium is the coping incel that doesn't understand why girls don't pick him

>>540131531
>they didnt need to be created
if not, then they wouldn't have been.
so now, what created them?

I don't. Genesis stories are not to be taken literally. They are allegorical. It is not until it gets to Abraham where it is mostly litteral.

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>>540129923
Chad Uranium transitioning into Sissy lead

>>540131679
there is literal in genesis.
adam literally embellished to eve about not touching the tree at all instead of just not eating from it.
this is what cause the fallen one to have an in with eve.
>man tries to protect woman and doesn't trust woman
>man embellishes
>man proven wrong when woman tests mans instruction
>woman fucks everything up
>man has to deal with consequences of woman's actions, but never blames self for embellishment and lack of trust
the problem of every relationship since the first one.

>>540131582
>so now, what created them?
it doesnt require a creator. they are the fundamental constraints.

>>540130820
>so while you're over there trying to figure out which deity is the real one, i already know.
You don't know, because you inherited the jews' slimy deceptive habit of refusing to say/write the deity's name. And these demons like to impersonate each other. Not sure why (for sport? for worship? who knows). If your god is the god of Abraham, Abraham sacrificed his son to Moloch, but jews a few centuries later were embarrassed by this and rewrote the story. Added an angel to it, but used the wrong name (the original used "Elohim", but a few centuries later "Yahweh" was the fashionable choice) just for that one part. Abraham walked up the mountain with his son, but they forgot to add a part where he walks back down the mountain. Forgot to add a part where Isaac attends the funeral of his mother. Forgot to add a part where he ever talks to his father again. Don't worry, jews got better at forgery later.

If you worship Abraham's god, you're worshipping Moloch.

>>540130595
>>540130820
You both sound so fucking gay and retarded holy shit
Neither of you have a clue

>>540131934
thermodynamics isnt real?

>>540131878
>they are the fundamental constraints
and what created the constraints?
what created the mechanism to constrain them?
what created the space they constrain within?
what created the catalyst for that?
keep going!

>>540131376
> in actual reality the universe is infinite and has no beginning and no end.
Let’s pretend this isn’t a completely stupid thing to say for just a moment and that evidence exists to support it.

Just make up some evidence that supports this.
It doesn’t have to be true.
I don’t need a source.
I literally want you to just make something up that scientists could hypothetically observe that would indicate this is the case.
>you can’t.

>>540131891
>You don't know, because you inherited the jews' slimy deceptive habit of refusing to say/write the deity's name
YHWH.
got another one?
>>540131934
your flag is pointless since the playstation is no longer viable and anime died after dragonball z.

>>540131335
pie is 3, never 4
>>540131934
>>540131983
gooks cant into science, can only copy paste from us white megachads.

>>540132023
>and what created the constraints?
It is an intrinsic property and does not require a central jewish authority.
>what created the mechanism to constrain them?
these are simply the results of electrostatic forces and spherical dense packing. a nucleus forms its shape (like a tetrahedron or an icosahedron) because those are the only stable geometric configurations allowed by charge and density.
>what created the space they constrain within?
spacetime isnt a box filled with stuff, it is the field.
>what created the catalyst for that?
the "catalyst" is just the kinetic transition toward equilibrium.
see, no jew god creator needed at any step.

>>540129923
Only Evangelicals get mad at that, and they're not Christians, just Jewish larpers.

>>540132225
>It is an intrinsic property
and what created this property?
>>540132225
>does not require a central jewish authority
what does a race of people have to do with it?

see your issue, you can't think outside the jew.
this holds you back from divinity.
tsk tsk, 2nd class citizen flag.

>>540132064
>YHWH.
Ah. So not Jesus' god. That makes sense.

>>540132336
you keep asking and in the end you ask who created god?
not even the bible say god created the world god took existing clay and shaped it.

>>540131216
>>540131357
>>540131465
>>540131582
>>540132023
>>540132336
What created god? Remember that you yourself said that nothing “just is”

>>540131983
Do you think nature or some god came up with "Thermodynamics"
Thermodynamics is a field of study named by HUMANS to address our best assertions about the behaviour of a thing you dumb fucking sausage.
"Thermodynamics" is as real as it is accurate to what it expresses.

Also nobody knows if god is real either
Shut the fuck up you pseuds
>>540130820

>>540132053
there is no proof it is a finite space and there is no proof for a big bang.
>>540132168
>pie is 3, never 4
pi equals 4 because once you include time as a fourth dimension into the circles motion, the circumference ceases to be a simple distance and becomes a velocity squared relationship where the math forces everything to balance at 4.
>>540132336
a property like charge or mass or geometric stability is not a thing that was manufactured or created, it is a characteristic inherent to existence, does not require a god.
>>540132879
>Do you think nature or some god came up with "Thermodynamics"
no thermodynamics dont require a jewish foreskin eating god at any step. nothing we see in reality requires a god.
>Also nobody knows if god is real either
"God" is just a placeholder for the physics that dumb people cant grasp.

>>540131251
>if you think entropy drives life you think you are totally in charge
My turn to make assumptions; you like christianity because you get forgiven for acting like a degenerate every week and get to pretend your shit doesn't stink.
Meanwhile scientists accept that humans are shitfliging monkeys.

Why do atheists get so mad when they hear about the unfalsifiable philosophical theory that the universe might have been created 1 week ago complete with false memories, fossil record, and carbon dating, and there would never be any way we could possibly know.

>>540133472
>immediately pivots to post modernist nihilism where "reality is just what you perceive".
kek that is a classic defense mechanism used by jeets/retards/browns who have reached their intellectual ceiling.
if a pajeet/retard/shitskin can argue that "truth doesn't exist" they never have to admit that they were wrong.

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>>540130202
> Christians don't believe LE SCIENCE
Except for
Isaac Newton
Johannes Kepler
Galileo Galilei
Gregor Mendel
Blaise Pascal
Michael Faraday
James Clerk Maxwell
Louis Pasteur
William Thomson, 1st Baron Kelvin
Georges Lemaître
Robert Boyle
Leonhard Euler
Carolus Linnaeus
John Dalton
André-Marie Ampère
Alessandro Volta
Nicolaus Copernicus
Tycho Brahe
Christiaan Huygens
Antonie van Leeuwenhoek
René Descartes
Pierre Gassendi
Marin Mersenne
Nicolas Steno
Joseph Lister
William Harvey
Thomas Young
Augustin-Jean Fresnel
George Washington Carver
Arthur Compton
Charles Townes
William Daniel Phillips
Francis Collins
John Polkinghorne
Jennifer Wiseman
Owen Gingerich
Allan Sandage
Russell Stannard
Henry Eyring
John Lennox
Arno Penzias (Christian later in life)
Alexander Lyapunov
Pavel Florensky
William Whewell
James Dwight Dana
Asa Gray
John Ambrose Fleming
Samuel Morse
Werner Arber
Denis Alexander
Kenneth Miller
Simon Conway Morris
Deborah Haarsma
Peter E. Hodgson
Stanley Jaki
John Gurdon
Robert Millikan
Max Planck
Erwin Schrödinger

>>540129923
Uranium is dating?
I hope its not having sex.

>>540129923
I've literally never heard anyone get mad about that. It also doesn't disprove God.

/thread

>>540133162
but the basic circle has no motion, and if you shrink it down to the smallest possible size it becomes a perfect triangle polygon with a circumference of 3.
>>540133162
"God" is another misinterpretation of language by jews, because theyre not native to human language. god is not a jewish sky monster. father+son+holy ghost are the same thing, we are god and made in his image. is another thing foreign jews can never interpret correctly.

>>540133703
their retarded deep seating beliefs into a foreskin munching jew god is what prevented them to do proper science and this is why science is in the shitty state that its currently in.

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>>540133989
Christ was a Jew, not a kike. Kikes have a claim to biblical Judaism as tenuous as that of a Mormon to Apostolic Christianity.

>>540133703
Gottem

>>540133873
thats easy for a static drawing to do but in the real world you cant draw or move anything without time passing and once you factor in the dimensions of motion and acceleration required to create that curve the "frozen" rules of a polygon just dont apply anymore

>>540134239
not this
>we wuz da real jews
bullshit again, sorry but I dont give a shit about shitskins from israel no matter what they call themselves.

Ah, of course, more cartoons for a source

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>>540134972
They're not from Israel. They're from Turkey.

>>540129923
Only creationists (AKA goyest of goyim) get angry at that.

>>540129923
Because it contradicts their Bible (a flat-earth book.)

>>540135075
that doesnt make it better lmao

>>540130202
trust the s0ience!

>>540137763
science isnt a religion until you abandon the scientific method, you know like empirical observation, repeatable testing and falsifiability. religion relies on dogma (things you must believe), while real science relies on evidence (things you can prove).
most jew "science" practiced today is just high budget religious ritualism where jews have forgotten that if an experiment doesnt match their theory the theory was wrong, not reality itself.

>>540129923
Probably because it's fake and gay, and it reminds Christians of themselves

>>540130218
Found the christcuck

>>540129923
you mean someone making up a story about what happened six gorillion years ago?

>>540138890
It's so much worse than that. You don't need to ignore the results of an experiment, when you can just manage the process so that experiments whose results you might dislike are never given grant money in the first place. When that happens, you don't have to insult the scientific method, you merely sidestep it. If your critics lay into you about this strategy, you can call them crackpots and deny that it's even happening... they're imagining conspiracy in routine and unfortunate scarcity of resources.

>>540133703
they did science in spite of being religious

>>540130186
He thinks that pastor Billy Cash Money who runs an fundamentalist independent baptist church in a strip mall is representative of all of Christianity and isn't a heretic completely lacking in all authority. He's also completely unaware of the fact that the greatest achievements in science were pioneered by Christians. Up to and including the big bang.

>>540143982
Wrong. Holy shit, for people who think they're oh, so smart you guys sure don't know much about your own history. They looked at understanding the natural world as a form of worship and adoration for God. But I wouldn't expect a retarded communist dipshit to know that.

>>540144037
2 thousand (2000) years of christian religious dominance in the west (the only part of the world that maters) and you can only pull up about 60 names, you also ignore how for most of that time, being public about ones lack of religion would be illegal, and sometimes would get you killed too, both socially and literally

>>540129923
what was the original ratio of lead: uranium?
and how would anyone know?

>>540144647
This is a very shallow argument and tries to side step the whole point. Newton was christian, there is not a shadow of a doubt about this. And his interests are not merely a superficial appearance.
And at the same time you condemn your own opinion as nothing more than groupthink. There has been decades of massive brainwashing of the youth for forty hours a week and the science still isn't sticking lmao even

>>540133989
Science was fine until globohomo infected the institutions a few decades ago, and also is still fine in non pozzed countries like China which haven’t been infected by social justice brain rot.

>>540129923
It doesn’t bother me as a Roman Catholic. Can you cite some examples of these upset Christians?

>>540144647
Everything you think you know is wrong. You're being corrected. Yet you respond by lashing out like a petulant child.