Of the 7,000 American pick-ups sold in the EU last year through the IVA loophole, nearly 5,200 of these were RAM pick-up trucks.CO2 emissions from RAMs average 347g per kilometre, over three times the average for newly-sold cars (106 g/km), and almost double the emissions of average new vans (185 g/km)European Redditors are furious, as it undermines Europe's emission targets and its plan to phase out ICE vehicles.
>>540134943I don't get it, seen things like that for a long while here. Only thing to complain about is the quality of the drivers. Because the cars are bigger, it's more evident that they fucking suck ass.
>>540134943These cars are so expensive here and demand so much fuel that only rich retards buy them so their number will be small as it was before... literally nothingburger.
>>540135189expensive, fuel consoomers, good luck navigating narrow tightly packed streets and finding a parking spot - thats why i respect anyone who drives these
>>540134943>betraying their own people>by allowing them to buy trucksI think there are bigger betrayals going on right now.
>>540134943>7,000 American pick-ups sold in the EU last yearIt's so over. 7000 trucks across the whole continent, imagine that.And most of them probably used by farmers only on farms.Yeah we're so finishedThe EU "caved in" because it's a nonissue, almost nobody buys US products here
>>540134943Good. These homosexial redditors need some freedom trucks to join their parades
>>540134943GM and Ford going to sell the fuck out of those pickup trucks over there.
>>540135342It still directly contradicts Europe's goal to eliminate petrol cars. While Europeans switch to tiny 1.0L engines, America continues to double down on massive V8s.
>>540134943I've seen a guy driving one around here and he's probably the most overcompensating insufferable faggot you'll ever lay eyes upon
>>540134943Good luck with parking your truck!If you finally found a free spot large enough the CO2-Antifa will scratch and burn your gas guzzler.
>>5401355627k trucks in the whole Europe is nothing and won't make any difference.And they probably avoided a bigger problem by not dying on a hill for this. Such as not getting more tariffs for billions of euros worth of cars exported to the USA.
>>540134943They'll be used in niche rural settings. Our inner cities are too small for these things to even find a parking spot.
>>540135704>CO2-Antifa will scratch and burn your gas guzzler.Mercedes wanted to get rid of American style big V8 engines but caved in to pressure from American customers. Progressive values in Europe are pointless if car manufacturers just keep building gas-guzzlers for the US market
>>540134943>>540135162Why are they complaining? EU has draconian CO2 tax on vehicles. If more people buy cars like this it means more money for the state.
>>540134943>RAMLives up to its name because it will ram you in the ass from how much of a piece of shit it is. Europeans should boycott them 100% because they won't even make it 20k miles before the engine AND/or tranny explodes. Also this is an indirect bailout of the auto industry here in the US because more Americans won't even buy their shit. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if they ship the ones that have sitting on dealership lots for years to Europe.
>>540134943Thought Toyota discontinued theirs, turns out these things and similar sized cars are just that rare due to tax rape/pragmatism
European Redditors use invasive American trucks as a pressure release valve to say all the things they're not allowed to say about immigrants.
OH MY SCIENCE
I lived in europ for a few years and the roads are too narrow for the toyota camry I had.
>>540136188They dont have to worry, gypsies will somehow steal everything attached
are these big ass trucks comfortable inside compared to normal vehicles?
>>540136218>Dear Americans please don't sell your vehicles to willing European customers who decided to purchase a thing with their own moneylol lmao even
>>540134943I heard they are dogshit quality and the only good ones are very old now.Leftists simply hate them because they are bold, big and masculine, everything they arent. They are the same as they see luxury watches or age gap relationships. Leftoids only feel comfortable in asexual mediocrity
>>540135622He sounds American.
>>540136384Very. I have 2004 f-350 in the king ranch trim and the seats are like armchairs, also own a 2024 f-250 platinum and it literally has massaging seats American truck OEMs basically copy German luxury cars.
>>540136105RAM makes the best-looking trucks, and 6.7 cummins lasts forever
>>540136281Just don't be a midget
>>540134943Lol, yuros can't afford to run these things. It will just be a rich man's toy, like owning a Ferrari in America.
>>540136105i have a ram, because i use it for hunting
>>540136483Nah, they are better than they used to be if anything. The 6.7 power stroke is a true million mile motor, the only weakness it has it's it's emissions equipment. Delete it and it will run for a lifetime. Lots of heavy duty trucks go over 1,000,000 miles in the US
>>540134943Be wary of ram drivers. They are always drunk and violent, and about as smart as our miggers.
>>540134943Try to get around Rome in an American car.
>>540134943It's probably to try and keep the Cybertruck from being cancelled for a few more years. America also just banned all Chinese robots to help keep Tesla stock afloat. Idk why but Elon still has a shit ton of political pull.
>>540134943>eus war on russia has led to buying more expensive usa gas, and buying less efficient us cars
>>540135704sounds like a great opportunity to respray it with bed liner
>>540136543Nothing lasts forever, especially a truck that bloated with tech and plastic.Ram it up your ram hole meat pie sucking faggot.
>>540136820Skill issue
Oh God you guys are fucked. A lot of people hate them here too. Screams I have a small cock.
>>540136218Do they hate truck immigration or something? Redditors are racist pieces of shit.
>>540136820Not even a MOPAR guy but Dodge (hurr durr "ram") just adopted the ZF medium duty 8 speed transmission into their trucks, they actually might have the most reliable HD truck on the market now that Ford and GM are using problematic 10 speeds
>>540134943The CO2 limits will not allow them in my 5 minute city so I don't have to worry about ever seeing one.
>>540134943Weren't smaller/mid size trucks which were practically usefull more common in the US before some clunky regulations during Obama era started the Bloatmaxxing?
>>540136913Or you know, they just are an office faggot like you and tow shit like skidsteers and shit. Crazy how everytime to see a pickup truck you start fantasizing about cocks though, it's that a learned response from previous trauma or something?
>>540134943AMERICANS AREN'T BUYING THEM SO THEY'RE DUMPING THEM ABROAD LMAO
>>540136925>most reliable>doesn't explode until 21k miles
who gets the data the trucks collect on ramreesh the US or EU glowniggers
>>540136483I feel comfortable in asexual mediocrity too. But I'm not a leftist. Death to Ukraine.
>>540134943Who's going to buy them? Aren't they too big for the roads?
>>540136999Most of the (non commercial) owners don't tow jack shit and leave the beds empty.
>>540135498Doubtful, Dodges sell there because Stellantis owns them, Ford and GM don't care about Europe anymore.
>>540134943I see those RAM cars literally everywhere all the time, they can't even load as much as a much smaller van. It's mostly low IQ right-wingers who buy this as a flex or something. I hope that fuel prices will continue to rise.
>>540134943this is good newsmore choice is better
>>540134943I took my 2500 to Germany when I was a ZOGbot
>>540136946Partly, but people just genuinely want bigger vehicles now. Big = luxury.
>>540137121Based
>>540137073believe it or not we have rural areas too and if a retard buys this to use in the city, he's in for a headache lol
>>540136601What kind of people do you hunt?
>>540134943>ram europoors have terrible taste.
>>540137031Medium duty ZF 8 speeds are already used in heavy industry for lots of on highway medium duty trucks and are pretty well proven. Same with the 6.7 cummins, yeah you automatic butt massagers might crap out on you, but the drivetrain and powertrain are proven solid. >>540137092I have a work truck and "personal" truck (that still ends up getting used for work occasionally) I bet you would say I don't use it if you saw my nice truck sitting in the driveway without a trailer attached to it.
>>540135296>the cars are bad only because Europe sucksNo shit
>>540135704>Good luck with parking your Gelandewagen!>If you finally found a free spot large enough the CO2-Antifa will scratch and burn your gas guzzler.No wonder you lost every single war ever fought.
>>540137266Cope
>>540137209But why? American trucks are giant with tiny beds and shit fuel economy.
>>540136913I drive a pick up truck because I have to put stuff in the back Sounds crazy right? Get a real job cubicalcuck and stop saying a pickup truck and a pavement princess are the same thing
>>540136188>r/fuckcars
>>540137366You can still buy 8 foot pickup beds, nothing is stopping you from doing so today. Consumers just end up choosing 6 foot or 5.5 foot beds and four doors.Always some retarded faggot yuppie parroting this lie. Also most modern 1/2 tons will get 21+ mpg these days, and HD trucks are doing better as well especially if diesel. Only 3/4 ton big block gasser trucks get poor mileage these days.
>>540136352>cucks feel threatened by large carslmao you can't make this shit up
>>540137366>But why? men peacock the same way everywherethe shorter he is the bigger, louder car he gets
>>540134943Super pick up truck owners often own pit bulls too as part of their LARP, it's like they love murdering white toddlers.>>540136896It slowed to a crawl skidding around retardedly tossing up water, a Land Rover Defender would have zipped past the camera man in 5 seconds. They're not actual offroad vehicles, they're personal monster trucks, except the owners pretend they're serious business not novelties.When we win they're all getting crushed and you won't be compensated.
>>540137481Single cab long beds is the way to go.
>>540137507>>540137509The duality of Poles
>>540135704>CO2-Antifa will scratch and burn your gas guzzlertop kek what kind of reality you leaving in? Those people can only complain on reddit and snitch to police.
>>540137586>Land Rover DefenderMaybe the older ones. The new ones aren't built on a body-on-frame truck platform anymore
>>540134943Who cares? Good luck driving those in any European city.The market for these is so tiny it doesn't matter.
>>540137600I'm all for choice and letting retards buy even bigger cars if they want and can afford them bigger car, more taxes paid, more petrol spending, more expensive work for specialized American car workshops etc
>>540136925I’m looking into buying a new one with that combo. Also the 10 speed in the super duty is a lot better than the lighter ones. Can’t go wrong with either.
>>540137586You guys went from the greatest empire in the world to and irrelevant island of slaves in one lifetime and you defend it. You aren't in a place to talk down to anyone and your government will arrest you for using no-no words.
>>540137586You are joking right? Land Rover is a fucking joke. I want to get to where I need to go, not be broken down on the side of the road for 8 hours. "British" (Jeet/German) engineering is a joke.
>>540137593Fuck that crew cabs are the way and everybody who has one will agree with me.
>>540136719Cybertrucks are banned for being too pointy.
>>540137586Also Land Rover is jeet slop
>>540137816Yes I own one. I know they are better than the crap they put in the 1/2 tons. And the 10R140 is slightly better than GM's 10L100 but they both still aren't going to be as good as the ZF 8 speed.
>>540137868I prefer the F-250 Diesel. Amazing vehicle. Crew cab, extended bed, carpet delete.
>>540134943Why would anyone want an american pickup truck tho?Toyota exists and is clearly the best one since its the cars your glowies give out to everyone they try to get to win a war against their enemies.
>>540137922>every dimwittery produced by the UN becomes a law in the EUSomebody nuke Brussels I have enough of this shit
>>540136105>AND/or tranny explodesYeah, I've read the automatic transmission in them shits the bed at ridiculously low mileage and is non serviceable. Dodge is facing heaps of lawsuits over it apparently. Dunno what they cost in the US but here they start at $130k. See lots of them around though as Toyota has stopped making the V8 diesel LandCruiser and replaced it with the Hilux motor with twin turbo's and have been having major problems with them spontaneously disassembling while driving. Japanese and western car makers have fucked themselves by making progressively worse cars for the last 20 years, while the chink cars are getting better and better while being half the price.
>>540134943I'm gonna get one, desuwill be cooler than a trailer when I buy some lumber and panels>>540137752I rarely go to a shittybut I'll take it there just to fuck with you sodomitesand since I have a handicap parking card, I'll have the right to drive it there, even in the low emissions zones, and you won't dare do shit, lol (wouldn't want to get sued for handicap discrimination, right?)and fuck you again, faggot
>>540138026The Toyota Hilux is banned here, they would sell like hotcakes if they were allowed to be sold.
>>540134943when did they enforce safety standards for the black niggers and sand people they are importing?
>>540136719this seething obsession over elon is unhealthy m8
>>540137927I like my 10r140s have always been smooth to me. Hopefully the zf8 holds up.
>>540138081They're so expensive here mostly because of the cost of converting them to right-hand drive.
>>540138096>They banned the HiluxIts because they fear its power
>Let me guess, you need more?
>>540137600Cucks living in their Big City, like Warszawka, Krakówek or any other Leftardville, will never own a big car. They wouldn't be able to fit in any parking space, all parking lots since 2012 are designed for tiny cuckboxes on wheels.They can only seethe and cope.Sour grapes moment.
>>540138252You're not wrong.
>>540134943
>>540138207>Hopefully the zf8 holds up.Yeah, hopefully.
>>540136661That's only if it's a spuc driving. If it has duallies, a godawful amount of chrome,and is loaded with landscaping equipment you can be sure it's piloted by a Mexican with a BAC twice the legal limit.
>>540138276>the cuckmobile is real
>>540138026Toyota is for larpers, people who do shit use American trucks.
>>540138276Why not just buy a motorcycle at that point?
>>540134943Europe simply isn’t made for pickup trucks even countryside doesn’t have wide road meta. I think only Sweden and Finland would fit the pick up truck meta
>>540134943RAMs already had tax breaks for businesses a volkswagen transporter with modified trunk is better tho
>>540138207It will, like I said they already use in medium duty trucks everywhere. It's very proven. I'm a Ford guy and I'm a little jealous of it.
>>540137362>>540137740This is kinda retarded. And i mean not the car. Buy it if you want.....whatever.But this type of presentation and advertisment. This is for people with a childlike mindset.>look how cool this car is when it drives by you. You can be cool too. (If you have this car).Ok maybe i am too old. Or i am just fed up with this slave world. Whatever.Oh and again. Just buy this can and if it brings you joy then do it. But these videos.......so......i cant watch such types of videos or ads anymore.
>>540136105>RAMIts named after what the owners want black guys to do to their wives
>>540138347>"people who do shit"
>>540134943Isn't Ram a Dutch brand?
>>540138343Always has been.
>>540138252>>540138285t. gets opinions from old Top Gear episodesthe nu-Hilux is just as bloated nanny-fied and shit as any modern American pickup
>>540138678They were Dodge/Mopar only at one point but they were bought by Stellanus- I mean Stellantis and those European faggots promptly starting fucking their whole business up and tried to focus on EVs for awhile, until they realized that was fucking stupid.
>>540138761old Top Gear was cool, thoughsilly, but cool
>>540134943But do Euros even want them is the question.Even in places our companies can compete openly they often get outcompeted.
>>540136384You can watch vids of urbanites euros who came to the US for the World Cup who rented big American trucks. They called the luxury and spaciousness was unparalleled by anything they have over there that isn't a 100k euro MB lux G-wagen, Sprinter, or luxury executive car.Americans have A/C's in our bathrooms ffs they're called euroPOORS for a reason
>>540137115Vans can't tow
>>540138866I don’t know how much bigger those pickup-trucks are but there’s like one guy in this village that has a dodge ram and everyone hates him for his stupid bloated car
>>540139111apart from him, you're a village of faggots, lol
>>540138083the rural chad spits on the wine sipping Parisian
>>540137820Don't worry discriminating against Americans will be a crime in the UK soon enough. Airstrip One will bend the knee or the leg will be broken
>>540138666Yes. Obviously not some yuppie faggot like you. You were bred for office bitch work. Honestly people like you should be chained to a cubicle all day and never be allowed to leave their offices. You only thrive in places with HR departments.
>>540134943Euros probably wont buy them. Sales of those Dodge Rams and Ford F150s have fallen sharply here, they were popular 5 years ago when they first started to be sold but no one wants them.
I like seeing American vehicles in places you don't expect, like Europe and Japan. I mean that more towards classics, but those are cool too. Nothing like a big, old MOPAR B Body stalking a picturesque landscape.
>>540134943HAHAH with 2.20 gas prize/liter these cars are insane. you can drive this in america where you get gas for free, you just have to kill some mexicans for it.
>>540134943Good. Fuck you faggot Yuropoos. I hope a man driving a big pickup truck smacks your wife’s ass, cuck.
>>540139332this guy murders mexicans all day to fill up his tank.
Cuck pod drivers seething.
>>540139371Is this supposed to be an insult?
i'm going to buy a ford raptor and only use it to drive my family to the mall or hockey practice.
>>540136218Isn't that ranger an Australian or euro truck? They had them before they came to the states.
>>540139243I am a rural chad, desuand I do sip wine, as well as beer and whiskyparisian sodomites (same as all urban sodomites) sip cum, thoughand I openly point and laugh at them saw one wearing short-shorts and stockings, a few years ago, while I was drinking beer next to the seaso I did point and loudly laugh at him, while doing kiss-kiss sounds: he was fuming but didn't dare say shit, lmao
>>540139371as the founding fathers intended
>>540139431off course you live on a plantation but youre so smug about it golem piece of shit.
>>540134943I hope they come in electric versions. In a few short years all non-commercial ICE vehicles will be banned from cities.
>>540139504that sucks, EVs are stupid and inconvenient
>>540139431goldberg here, my brother goldsteinberg is going to rip you a new asshole and you wont do shit about it you dumb golem moron. bend over and open wide you sissy faggot you like it.
>>540137362ram is the worst truck brand sorry fag get over it. The entire fiat Chrysler car line is the worst cars to buy.
>>540137586That blind spot doesn't matter because anything standing that close in front of a car in motion is fucked unless you're going 20mph or less and you can convert the units yourself faggot. Also why the fuck would a small child be walking around unattended in any area with moving vehicles, let alone a busy intersection??? Is that why its so easy for pakis to kidnap and rape them? Because city dwelling libshits are too retarded to look after what few children they've bothered to have? Limp wristed desk jockeys who've never done tradework nor anything requiring a large truck should just shut the fuck up about things you clearly know nothing about.
bless all the jews and israel.
>>540139499You’re so brown, I can tell just by the amount of cope and seething you’ve put into your reply. Cope more little brown manlet. If I find you I’m gonna park my RAM 3500 behind of your little cuckmobile and make you late for your paper pushing job.
>>540139297It’s because they need to be converted to RHD here, which makes them way too pricy.
Imagine the damage muslims will do with those bad boys.
>>540139640give this man his pick up
>>540138761No joke, I'm actually watching Top Gear right now and just watched it for the first time yesterday. My opinions didn't come from this show, I've only seen a few episodes at this point.
>>540139504They do but EVs are even more bloated and weight over 3.5 tonnes
>>540134943I don't think legally allowing burgertrucks will mean they'll take over at all. The reason they're omnipresent in america is mainly because of CAFE standards and the automotive industry having a lobbying stranglehold.For one, cheap foreign trucks are for all intents and purposes banned in america. If you want a truck, you have to buy a burger monster truck monstrosity, and foreign small trucks are taxed so high that nobody will even bother importing them. And for domestic trucks, the CAFE standards were designed with a loophole where fuel efficiency is judged proportionately to how big the truck is, so they're able to get away with making gas guzzlers if they just make the trucks xboxhugeThese things combine with a culture of burgerlards being a bunch of retarded soccer moms and suburban LARPers who think they need fuckhuge SUVs and pickups. You don't have the culture or the legislation in america, so nobody there will buy these horrible things.
>>540134943I'm from the Netherlands, these trucks have been allowed for like 2 decades now.
>>540135704in burgerland they just dgaf and take up two parking spaces or have their truck completely sticking out into the street. And nobody says anything or thinks anything of it.
>>540134943What's the euro version of picrel going to be?
>>540135917they won't get the necessary greenfag stickers for cities anyway
The F-150 is objectively the best vehicle on the market. This is a good thing Europeans.
Why buy those turd wagons? Get a chebby or a forduh. Either of those are vastly superior as the rammed in the ass
>>540140015basically pic related, with hunting guns (drunk hunting is basically legal: as long as you don't look and behave drunk, they can't even test your blood alcohol)and it's beautiful
>>540139985Only faggots even pay attention to it as it’s such a non issue to even notice.
>>540134943Nice. You can talk shit about trucks all you want. All I ask is for you to drive one for a week and you'll never go back. They are a true man's vehicle.
>>540140015
>>540134943must be top floors EU fag bureaucrats with Talmudic values driving these
>>540138391we get this thing called rain you know
>>540138633Hummer is gone so something had to fill the void
>>540141522Hummer isn't gone.
>>540141701>from a distinct standalone division and brand that was part of douchebag culture to a model under gmc marque for sissy electric garbagei reiterate hummer is gone
>>540134943Who is going to buy these things?American expats in Europe?Most Europeans have a normal sized, uncut penis, don’t need these things for psychological comfort.
>>540135300cool it with the anti semitic remarks
>>540134943I saw one today kekI want one
>>540136577that's why americans pump our kids full of bovine growth hormone: to get them tall enough to be seen over the hood of a lifted f350one day yuropoors will understand
>>540134943yuros can't afford to drive muttmobiles at our petrol prices.
>>540134943roll coal or lick me hole, bruce
>>540137586This bong gets it. These things simply are murder tools in the hands of jack shit drivers
>>540134943brutal mistake eurpoe
>>540135342> Ram trucks> On farmsGiving gypsies access to the internet was a mistake.
>>540134943How could do the EU do this?
>>540144134Germans are such cucks that they cry at the sight of guns in an action movie and shit themselves when they see a big car lol
>>540136617Bullshit. Half the body will be peeling off or missing by the time you hit 400K. It aint a Toyota you overcompensating septic dickhead.
>>540144738Trucks still like new. Absolutely million mile trucks as long as you change oil. Maybe a turbo every 300k miles
Lot of retards here not understanding that Trucks are for towing AND just because you don't see a trailer behind my truck on the highway TODAY doesn't mean I NEVER tow with it. Think about it. If I tow 1-2 times a week, but drive 7 days a week, 5 out of 7 times you see the truck there won't be a trailer behind it. That doesn't mean I never use it for towing - it means I don't need a trailer 100% of the time. Common sense is dead.
>>5401349431000 children will die from this
>>540134943Streets, parking, even garages, are all too small for pickup trucks/American full-size vehicles... the vehicle owners and everyone, are going to have a bad time...
>>540135189they're supposedly for towing stuff
>>540138083>and since I have a handicap parking cardYou already said it once that you are from a village anon. No need to repeat yourself.
>>540145314kvetch moar, jewflagonly sodomites (jews, estronauts and enrichment) live in shittiesshitties aren't the beacon of civilization: they're what civilizations die fromyou disgusting subhuman, lol
>>540144715Don't you have to larp as the defender against evil russia? Do not worry, we'll help once you come bawling your eyes out
>>540145281Damn right. But people who see a truck that doesn't have a trailer behind it on the highway say "See! They don't need that truck" even though we don't have a trailer behind it every day. I have 5X 1980's Yamaha ATVs and God bless America for selling me a truck that can take them out to play with friends and family. We have true freedom here in America.
>>540138026Toyota tow capacity is shit. My ram 1500 can tow 13K pounds. A new ram 2500 can tow 20K+ and a Ram 3500 can tow 30K+
>>540134943I never got the point pickup trucks unless you're a farmer. There is no point in that much ground clearance if you're on paved road.There are no car enthusiasts that like these Fords and GMs. Check on /o/ if you don't believe me.
>>540139614ITT American gets offended at the thought of a child walking onto a street
>>540135421
>>540135622They all are
YOU WILL DRIVE THE F350YOU WILL LIVE IN THE MCMANSIONYOU WILL EAT THE BURGER
>>540145197They were shitskin children, so based
>>540146456this
>>540136483This shit right here is why people make fun of you.
>>540134943Get fucked eurofagsI hope you all choke on the emissions and die in horrible truck related accidents while we import the 3rd world to cum in your women, whether they want it or not (they all want bbc cum in their pussies)T. Black and hung as fuck
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>>540146417Why is there a sheet of paper taped to that trucks window?
