Modern socialists hate the working class, kek
>>540140963If he wasn't so brainwashed, he might eventually realize that his "socialism" only uses the working class as a stepping stone to attain power some day.
As leftists our politics involve faith in the working class, and the implementation of any policy which benefits workers."But I made a reddit post, where I pretended to be 1 of you, and then made asinine comments about how we hate the working class!"No. That doesn't matter. That doesn't fool anyone.
>>540140963This had to be one of you fuckers, I refuse to believe this person exists.
>>540140963>>540141130Pic rel also is relevant to this.Everything about the post obviously reads like a fascist using his usual misrepresentations of us on the left. Bullshit, and unimpressive.
>>540141130>the implementation of any policy which benefits workersUnless it's stopping the wealthy from bringing in millions of scabs from the third world, of course.
>>540141127they do understand that and at least on an instinctual level every action they take is towards that end goal, but they will never admit it outwardly and I'm not sure if they do inwardly either, at least some definitely yes
>>540140963>theory>toxic masculinity>local cafééééééé>grading/reading>remote job>umbrella>canvas tote>uni lit department>etcHas to be bait
>it was a "joke", I guessYeah it was a joke you fragile little fairy, lighten the fuck up Sometimes I'm ashamed to be white collar
>>540141172Of course they do not exist. This post is the classic fascist false flag psyop, where they pretend to be 1 of us and then misrepresent us on the basis of identity politics.
>>540140963Just like white supremacist the white people. Clown ass world isn't it?
>>540140963>waaahhh people don't align with my world viewthey are the problem but are too stuck up their own ass to see it
>>540141267Every time I see>The culture war is bad because it distracts us from the class war Its being said by someone that would never ever stop fighting for tranny shit even though they know the working class hates it
>>540141299We're not for open borders on the left, this is just another 1 of your misrepresentations of us. You are for open borders on the right, because those open borders are necessary for your capitalist economic policy. Basically, you've accused your political opposition of what you're guilty of, per usual.
>>540140963Do you see those 0 updoots at the bottom? faggotBut yeah, this is what socialism is. Those are the people who you are fighting for. If you don't like it, GTFO. Go read Evola or something and join the aristocracy, maybe that is more up your speed
>>540141385Just another one of your blatant misrepresentations, which you fundamentally must push, no matter how much you're confronted with the facts to the contrary, because if you ever stopped then no one would ever vote for you again, ever.
>>540141387>We're not for open borders on the left, this is just another 1 of your misrepresentations of us.lol>You are for open borders on the rightBut I'm not saying that isn't also true
>>540141130>>540141267>so butthurt by the truth he had to reply to himselfI hope you all swing from lamp posts
>>540141267The problem is that it is generational now.Zoomers are all woke, even rightoids are trannies now, while boomers hate it.Boomers love the blacks and diversity, but zoomers hate it.There is now literally no way to take a political position without alienating a good portion of the people. Well done jews, or whoever it is
>>540141452Your propaganda about "leftists being for unpopular policies like woke culture wars or open borders" is just western MSM brainwashing which is intended to misinform the public into blaming the fascist's political opposition for the fascist's own crimes.Open borders are from you. Because they're necessary for your economic policies.
>>540141385The issue is that they don't. Zoomies genuinely love tranny shit now.Even Nick and some groypers were in the "doll house", some kind of tranny club and these people are as right wing as it gets
this screenshot is like 10 years old
>>540141491>don't believe your lying eyesyeah I agree with the other guy, you deserve to hang from a lamp post
>>540141469These are all just your misrepresentations of your political opposition as "wokies or PC culture warriors", which you inherently must double down on, in order to maintain any political power because no one would vote for you otherwise.
>>540141387>We're not for open borders on the leftYes, you just implement open borders whenever you're in power. Trudeau got a decade in power and he flooded our country with MILLIONS of indian scabs. And then if anyone calls for stopping it you screech hysterically at them.
>>540141267"woke" here is a meaningless placeholder to make it seem sensible at all. Wtf is "woke". To have the high iq 'jak with a literal (D) label arguing against ""woke"" is hilarious in its own right. But the underlying premise here is that identity politics is a distraction from class politics. This is a reasonable position, but what it underhandedly smuggles in is that you should completely ignore the flood of brown foreigner subhumans displacing natives in your country, you should ignore the psychotic perversion of the sexes teaching the youth to mutilate themselves, and the insidious rootless parasite class that's usually at the forefront of these issues. It's very clever. It pitches itself (class politics) as an alternative to the nationalist's views, by labeling concern about any such issues as a funded psyop, when it itself is the funded psyop at the root of the "divide over race, gender, and sexuality". A subtle clue is at the end when it talks about fascism. Of course, the ultimate fear of this post's author is a healthy, nationalist society. Go figure
>>540140963reads like a liberal rant not a Socialist's
>>540141533You will always double down on your western MSM brainwashing and propaganda, because you know it exists to promote your politics and without it you would have no political power, as fascists.
>>540141387who'd you vote for in the last big election you voted
>>540141452The leftist will always lie, because deep down they know they're full of shit.They claim to stand for the working class but they consistently harm them with their retarded politicians.They claim to be against billionaires but gleefully spend their money on their products.Everyone against them is a fascist, because they don't know what that term actually means.Leftists always lie. It's just part of their mental disorder.
>>540141562Trudeau also wants you to kill yourself, he is not a good guy, not even a good goy. Even the jews didn't like him which is why you have Carney now
>>540141387Imagine being this fucking dishonest. Lol the left aren't for open borders. Next you'll be telling us there are only two genders.
>>540141598>implying there's a difference>>540141600>MSM is at fault!>MSM is 80% liberalLmao, lol even
>>540141562We have no political power in the west, and 100% of the western immigration is the result of your fascist economic policy of capitalism which fundamentally relies upon immigrants for it's survival.You pretend not to understand this fact in order to avoid accepting blame for your unpopular open borders policy, and to justify your continued blaming of "jews" or your leftist political opposition, for your own crimes.
>>540140963what website is that?
I hate life
>>540141553DNC/DSA is fag and tranny party. So, no votes from me, niggerfaggot.
>>540141660This is your propaganda, as fascists, where you pretend "the capitalist, privately owned, viciously anticommunist MSM, or everything in the United States, is run by leftists", despite the fact that we don't even have basic leftist policies in America, and leftists hold no power in this entire half of the world which has been at war with leftist policies for 80 years.
>>540141312It is. Using https://arctic-shift.photon-reddit.com/search to search reddit OP, picrel appears to be their youtube channel.
>>540141506Nick and groypers aren't the working class lmfao. Nick has never worked a day in his life. Normal working men and women don't want women in dresses pissing next to their daughters. Support for trannies is going DOWN not up, that never happened with say gay marriage.
>>540140963There is a similar reddit crop post has the same content on the same subreddit here a few days ago. Either glowies are working hard or the lib are really that insufferable
>>540140963>quiet morning spacesYou just know those construction guys left the yard only a little after sunrise and have been on the clock for like 4 hours before walking into that cafe at 10am for that whiny retard to seethe about them being too loud too early in the morning.
>>540141130>>540141387>>540141491>Actually, the TRUE left isn't obsessed with tranny dicks to the exclusion of sound policy>Actually, the TRUE left isn't obsessed with open borders and ethnic replacement>Actually, the TRUE left doesn't despise the working class for being chuddy white guys and not effete laptop-class latte-sippersI once thought exactly the same way you did. Let me be the first to assure you that once you work through your cognitive dissonance in 2-6 years and realize it's literally all true, the far right will be ready to welcome you to the ranks. See you then.
>>540141740Those groups do not represent leftist policies although I would absolutely recommend everyone vote for democrats, but one way or the other your opposition for us has to do with your pro-billionaire policies, not the culture wars which you've clearly manufactured both parts of, or the open borders which you're clearly exclusively responsible for to protect your precious capitalism.
>>540141326>Yeah it was a joke you fragile little fairy, lighten the fuck up >Sometimes I'm ashamed to be white collarThis. The retort would be>Enjoy the weather, boysAnd they'd have laughed at that too.
>>540140963I've read Marx because I read a lot and have read conservative thinkers like Hitler etc but isn't this just the lumpenproletariat?
>>540140963God we desperately need either a cure, or a giant killing device, for faggots.
>>540141817fuck off, skittle hairs face the wall
>>540141652As I've written above on multiple occasions, you necessarily must double down on your fundamental misrepresentations of leftists, in order to maintain your own political power, which is why none of you will ever relent upon them, no matter how many times you're confronted with actual leftist people who vehemently tell you that none of that is what we're about.
>>540141337KillYourselfFaggot
>>540141747>we don't have any leftist policiesYou lie more than you breathe, the government is jam packed full of you leftist twats and you retards somehow get a president into office every other election.>fascistsYou wouldn't know what a fascist is if you walked in on your grandmother being anally fucked by Mussolini
>>540140963>a post from a random person online sums up the views of all SocialistsLeave the house
>>540141786I said it was generational. Show statistics for 18-24 versus say 50-60Zoomers are actually trooning out at insane rates, perhaps by someone's design
>>540141817We've been through this in multiple posts, above >>540141891, >>540141553, >>540141434, >>540141337. You cannot face the facts which leftist politics present to you, because if you did your entire fascist worldview would crumble.
>>540141926chances are high. he had several women a day
>>540141967are you retarded, xir? serious question
>>540141967Are you autistic?
>>540140963Naturally, liberal socialists, economic socialists, are only ever intending to terrorize and exploit the actual working class population. Time and time again, but it can't change because it's always just kikes pulling the strings in these cases.
>>540140963This reminds me of when Picard was devolving into a frightened little tree monkey. Russian scientists bred domesticated foxes and eventually realized the trick was to find ones that never developed into maturity.This guy is a scared little tree monkey which has been prevented from maturing into adulthood. And he definitely wants those two workers to pin him down with their manly arms and deeply penetrate his man pussy.
>>540141926You peddle your false notion of the capitalist, imperialist, militantly anti-communist United States government being "run by leftists" in order to justify brainwashing people to blame your leftist political opposition for your own crimes, as fascists. Most of what you do, as fascists, involves convincing people to blame either "jews" or "leftists", for your own crimes.
>>540141747most "real" leftists who would agree that "real" leftism has no representation in politics are 21st century "whiteness is property" racial marxists though, tankies or whatever are like esoteric evolan occultists or something are for us on the right, a tiny number of weird guys nobody takes seriously but technically are kinda on the same side
>>540141660>implying there's a differencesocialism and liberalism are diametrically opposed really. Remember Stalin and the Cuban revolutionaries hated faggotry as a bourgeois vice? yeah..only in the US those are synonymous, interesting phenomenon
>>540142053Once more, your misrepresentations of us, and our politics on the left, are always 100% fictional and bare no resemblance to us or our actual views.
>>540141130this scrawny fag has a purse and thinks he's going to rule over physically and genetically fit males in a totalitarian soi state lmao
>>540141964Most 'trans' zoomers were just non-binary trenders. The trans issue is settled, lefists are like Japanese holdouts at this point. They want to die on the hill of men chopping their penises off, its madness.
>>540141130The left that's really existing is like that. A bunch of freaks who hate the working class and use it as an excuse to promote and fund their antisocial lifestyles
>>540142046What crimes, keeping the power on and developing the technology in your iphone?
>>540142046>no leftists run the governmentYeah you're right, there's never been a leftist president or the current 45 senators or the 212 representatives in the house..
>>540142117The only thing any of you can ever do is misrepresent us, and push your identity politics in whatever ways you can work them into your posts, in order to evade having to respond to our actual points or views.
>>540142083All liberals are socialists retard
>>540142120Why doesn't the chart have a key. Is this millions? Out of what cohort?
>>540141299They’re not scabs, they’re Democrat voters. You can’t implement policies that benefit workers if you don’t hold power. Working class immigrants help tip the scales to a government that will actually help workers. It’s the opposite of scabs actually since the end result is implementing those pro-worker policies. It seem be a roundabout way to reach good ends but this is practical politics. Of course capital wants to get you hung up on identity politics to stop progress.
>>540142171post your wrist and "tote" fag lol
>>540142171I wish we had actual fascism, then I wouldn't have to listen to your retarded ass anymore
>>540142180you may remain in ignorance m8, I don't really care
>>540142184Its a percentage.
>>540142226>t. BrazilianIronic
>>540142106Bear. Bare is how you imagine those two workers asses while you furiously try to climax through dilation even though there isn't enough Adderall in the world to keep you hard
>>540141387A lot of people on the left are for open borders. Some of those people are even in leadership positions. It is stupid and needs to change, but there isn't any point in pretending otherwise.
>>540142137"Once more, your misrepresentations of us, and our politics on the left, are always 100% fictional and bare no resemblance to us or our actual views.">>540142157There was possibly 1 leftist president but we murdered him. Presumably there are a few people with leftist views in the house of representatives, but they do not express them publicly, as 100% of the house votes expresses policies of capitalism.
>>540142245Holy shit over 6% that can't be normal. That is seriously deranged
>>540142206Kek 6/8 bait
>>540142299try leaving your house sometime
>>540142290>all those democrat presidents, senators and representatives don't count because uh.. they just don'tSo you are just autistic.Sorry your leftist leaders are all incompetent retards my guy. Must be hard.
>>540142276This is your propaganda, as fascists, which is endemic in western society only because you own everything in this nation, and control every institution for billionaire profit, including the media.You've brainwashed people to blame either "jews" or "leftists" for your own crimes, as fascists, which include your open borders which you've implemented for your capitalist economic policy which fundamentally relies on it.
>>540141816Exactly what I was thinking.
>>540142359>fascists
>>540142264When the only thing you can do in response to my posts is to make corrections of the grammar, then it becomes clear you have no actual response.>>540142219100% you live in a fascist nation, and obviously it's never going to resemble your empty and false promises you've made to people, because fascist politics are just a mind control grift.
>>540142347I did not write that quote to you. Feel free respond to my actual post, and let me know when you want to.
>>540142359That's some nice paranoid shit you made up. I am a leftist. Not everyone on the left agrees about everything. Some people are for open borders. Those people are wrong, but they exist.
>>540142290Where is that left in the West? Even the ones that superficially agree with China or M-L or whatever always go back to liberal positions.It's pure posturing, they're completely absorbed by their bourgeois moralistic views of society
>>540142299Yeah it got really bad. Teenagers were mind raped during the covid lockdowns, basically locked in their room with groomers. Thankfully there was a cultural backlash against it and the numbers are trending down.
>>540140963This is a troll written by a man
>>540142407>>540142436>still retarded and can't even read his own postsAgain, all you can say is fascist with no understanding of the word.
>>540141130You look more and more guilty as you reply.
>>540142519*gay
Doesn't surprise me.60 mins Australia who seem like socialists to me did another piece shitting on men "oh these poor woman are all boss babes, where are all the super successful men".
>>540142436Hey man we spoke the other day, whatever happened with that girl you said would dox you after your relationship with her? Like why did she come out and y'know accuse you of those things?
>>540142299Like I said, zoomers are all trooning out. Even in right wing circles. And not even in America, for example in Russia you have zoomer trannies that are engaged in illegal anti-immigrant militant organizations where they beat up tajiksHas to be some global psyop, not sure how though. Russian Federation regulates internet and international communications
>>540140963Socialists as much as they want to deny it are racist and hate lower classes.They despise the White working class in particular, blue collar White workers etc.
>>540140963What a bourgeois take
>>540140963Modern day socialists are just HR/Marketing faggots. They can't do anything besides talk and cry. Stalin, Mao, Lenin, Pol Pot, and Castro would have turned them into swine feed. They will never understand how absolutely of a waste of carbon they are.
>>540141337Cool. Then you should have no trouble teaching the workers how banks create currency that gets issued as a loan. This is a great first step to creating a fair currency system. The workers get loans for houses, cars, trucks and business all the time so they will be curious to learn a bit about it. They can even start getting in good with a bank and improve their credit score if they pay their loans off on schedule. Banking is not all bad. But that unequal authority to issue currency and then charge interest on it. Now that's a can of worms. I have yet to see a famous Leftist talk about that part of the contract. The Right doesn't pretend to share fairly. The Left does. Big difference!
>>540142106its "bear", as in bearing weightBut yeah, if we can distinguish conventional marxists who still focus on labor versus capital from modern 3rd worldist/racial leftists comparing them to fringe philosophy segments on the right like evoleans or monarchists is pretty apt, they're necessarily part of the same side and probably better read on specific distinctions and details, the historical roots and progress of the movement and so on but their views aren't relevant even in the general more hardcore than mainstream group, let alone at an electoral level.you'd also probably get attacked and spat on by antifa if you said you want closed borders at one of their meetings but leftists being fucking animals is besides the point
>>540142407That's not all I do, I also laugh at you
>>540142120wow 7% of zoomers killed themselves LMAO
>>540142611Based Russian femboys
>>540142359>you own everything in this nationlol? It's a bunch of homocidal zionist jews who want to control everything who control everything. you think some guy calling everyone nigger on twitter has some level of power? open ur eyes faggot
>>540142206You should travel to India and see the caste system there. Raw numbers of impoverished slaves do not hold any political power.
>>540140963FUCKING KEK. i was reading it assuming the OP was a girl the whole way up until the purse part. god that fag sounds annoying as shit. Those two workers already have insurance and make more than the author btw....
>>540140963>talks loudly>acts machothat's because they are half-deaf, and retarded.hope this helps.
>>540140963They always have. It was always performative concern. The only thing they have ever wanted is to be the tyrants themselves.
>>540142445Obviously if a person does not have leftist views, then they are not "leftists".Bizarre comment here, where you're trying to pretend people without leftist views are "leftists".>>540142441You're fascists here on /pol/ who frequently LARP as leftists in order to false flag us and misrepresent us as your wokie or open border strawmen, which is the point of your posting right now.
>>540142730Might study how Gaddafi gave no interest loans to new families to invest in their future. He was well loved by his populace and had more of a progressive economy than anything the 'moderate rebels' who sodomozed him to death for Hillary could ever create.
>>540142895You are the zionists, on the right, much like mass immigration, your fascist imperialist empire depends upon zionism in order to remain afloat, which is why no matter how much fake antisemitism you peddle, you will always be the zionists, who turn around afterwards then predictably blame "jews" for your own crimes, of zionism.
>>540140963>Hey buddy, careful with that umbrella, don't want it getting caught on your purse.
>>540142771Once more, whenever you misrepresent us on the left it never bares any resemblance to us, or our actual politics.
>>540143020You're the one acting like an unreasonable idiot making absolute statements like you speak for the entire left wing of politics. Cool projection post tho
>>540141946I've never encountered one in public. They're all reddit trannies who never leave their shitty apartments due to social anxiety and other mental illness.
>>540143020>>540143097>still doesn't know what a fascist isLeftist brainpower at work no wonder Germany and the USSR fell
>>540143020What I've been saying is that basically there's almost no leftist like you're saying and that what's working under the flag of the left is liberal progressivism.That maybe 999/1000 of each person who identifies as left wing is like that
>>540143133you can't just repeat shit and expect it to work here
>>540140963Those working class proletariat folk probably make way more money than the average middle class office worker too :/
>>540140963This right here is why the left REALLY needs to rebrand. Dudes like this guy being the model of masculinity within their movement is a big part of the reason why normal ass dudes will never be on board with them.
>>540142730Whatever you're posting about here is irrelevant because you are the right, therefore you are the people who promote bankers and capitalism. If your point here was to try to attack central banks, then obviously your policy with those is to privatize them and put them under the control of billionaires, who will then be able to exploit our nation even further for profit.There's no component to anything any of you do, on the right, other than protecting billionaires. 100% of your politics revolves merely around protecting billionaires.
>>540143227People are forced to repeat themselves to you, as fascists, because you refuse to recognize facts or acknowledge the posts and points which are addressed to you.>>540143217Is the only thing you have to write in response to me just "u dont know what fascism is"? Completely randomly? And on the basis of nothing?
Socialism isn't an economic system, it's part of a pattern of behaviours that develop within highly neurotic individuals that have autism or personality disorders. When we finally start looking at it through this lens, we can start rounding up these revolting demons and put them in medical facilities.
>>540143222Once more, as pointed out above in multiple posts, these are ____your____ misrepresentations of your leftist political opposition, which you will never let go of as fascists, because if you ever did then your entire grift would fall apart, and your political power would evaporate while no one was ever willing to vote for your politicians again.
>>540143222My comparison to right wingers who talk about shit like restoring monarchal rule and "democracy was a mistake" etc is accurate. They'll, or at least the more confident ones, will say you're all to my left my beliefs are the REAL right wing etc and even if they're sort of technically correct it isn't a useful distinction
>>540141130
>>540140963I don't think he/she/it/they/them(idgaf?) "hates" the working class.... they're just being real the working class is generations of hardened-to-serve indoctrination they've been inbred to uncritically accept regressive beliefs/dogma without questioning to overcome, and it's annoying as fuck to donate any kind of enlightened concept on a third grade remedial level into their skulls...the regressives want lobotomized servants, not fellow billionaires to compete with. So oligarchs have think tanks feeding conservative influencers, telling you what to think, what to fear, and what to hate. If think tanks werent feeding you regressive bs from your news sources we wouldnt have any kind if boogeyman tales about collective communism to sow fear of moderate berniecrat dsa-type socdems we'd have individual free thought & a free individualist society but we cant have nice things bc the 1% greed. Racism and religion hurts the racist and the religious. Your future generations are not set to be thriving, from your sowing hatred, oppressing others, destroying the environment. Only you can break out of your programming and stay out of it, even life-long indoctrination can be overcome, and its a lie that you can't.
>>540143490democracy was a mistake though
>>540143345Is the only insult you know fascist? Because that's the only thing you can say. Everyone is a meanie fascist following fascist propaganda (from leftists somehow since they own the media empires?) Its hilarious
>>540140963marxists have always been bourgeoisie
>>540143526>spent 2 trillion to fight a book of nonsense in VietnamWho is the real clown here
>>540143345nobody's forcing you to do anything lol, you just keep typing the same "that wasn't real communism" style preset response to everythingDo you understand why the concept of logical fallacies exist? Like, how that actually is part of the process of developing understanding and arriving at more correct answers to difficult questions, or do you think they're just arbitrary rules you can claim to look like you're winning a debate
>>540140963Obviously the solution is to replace the icky white working class with noble brown people who course aren't sexist, racist, homophobic, etc. (They just can't be)
>>540143490This, they aren't more relevant than traditionalist monarchist circles>>540143424It is what it is, the left is dead
>>540143661>the Russian says in the ashes of his empire
>>540142719>Stalin, Mao, Lenin, Pol Pot, and Castro would have turned them into swine feed.this... "socialists" from the early 1900s are built from a completely different cloth than modern queer socialists.
>>540140963>vibrating>overstimulated>the mere presence of a man is too much for me>progressive wordslop>i know your needs better than you doThis creature needs help. Genuinely. He is mentally ill.
>>540141130>FaithI though you fags were atheist, also class is a social construct, an artificial classification you have put on people, the people don't view themselves as a class largely 90% of people's around the world indentify with race rather than class and no amount of social engineering or reeducation can change it, especially in multi ethnic political entities where the various races are in constant conflict with one another.
>>540141337Get the fuck off my board retard
>>540140963post purchase rationalization it's the exact same thing as the console wars, but instead of being out $500 for a shitty console, you put yourself into lifetime debt just to get told playstation is better than xbox for 4 years.
>>540141387ohh thats right, i remember now. it was berny sanders who wanted to build a wall to keep mexicans out, and have them pay for it.thanks for reminding us of the true left, which is actually what i already believe. i am a true leftist now. for my first act, i will declare the following:fuck niggersfuck kikesbut most of allfuck jannies
>proles being too dumb to identify bait posts
>>540141774Yeah it's a redscarepod dirtbag left troll post. Herbs
>>540140963Some bourgeois paternalism from a the least fatherhood figure on Earth.Or just a bait.Who know.
>>540143746That's not Russia boyo
>>540141267You huff your own farts, don't you?
>0 updoots>14 commentsGrim
>>540141387So much this, capitalism thrives on illegal labor and paying foreigners. The right thinks itself nationalistic but doesn’t realize they’re the biggest defenders of their economic and social enslavement. > own da libs Some low iq mutts sucking off Jew Jew cum.
>>540140963This didn't happen, it sounds way too exaggerated and checks all the typical annoying boxes for it to be true.
>>540143546>If think tanks werent feeding you regressive bs from your news sources we wouldnt have any kind if boogeyman tales about collective communism to sow fear of moderate berniecrat dsa-type socdems we'd have individual free thought & a free individualist society but we cant have nice things bc the 1% greed.even if I never watched tv or social media once in my life, if i stumbled across a tranny i would be repulsed and the uncanny valley effect would be deeply unsettling and i would know something was wrong. The truth of the universe is might makes right, chads are always right. the modern gay troon communists will never win because they have no rizz and are weak sissie fags who will never convince the majority to take their side because weakness is repulsive on a fundamental level.... even the early nazis had a bunch of gays but they were at least chads so they could attract supporters. you are an aura-less cuck. hit the gym or cope fag.
>>540143936You’ve gotta go back.
>>540143800The break between conventional, sometimes called vulgar marxism and present day social leftism, racial marxism, "woke" or whatever you want to call it is pretty explicit too, if you cared to you can trace a pretty linear philsophical genology from people like Marcuse in the 40s and 50s, to intersectional feminists and black liberation agitators in the 60s and 70s through to all the tranny and decolonization shit we have now. Like, there isn't uncertainty about this we have all the shit these people wrote lol
>>540141680jews are the billionaires you claim to hate dipshit. lynn rothschild implemented "inclusive capitalism" which larry Finkelstein institutionalized as "ESG" which funded bob igers disney woke shit, and ofcourse snow white is now a jew-latto. the whole thing is jewish from top to bottom. but youd rather blame an "idea" instead of actual people because holding people accountable is "mean" to a dipshit leftist. jews made america woke to distract from OWS. jews did 9/11 and created gwot. and jews blackmailed our coreupt politicians with kid diddling the whole time.kys retard. seriously you are painfully ignorant and should consider just ending it all.
>>540141130The leftists have never been for the working class.
>>540141387Look I agree that the right is actually pro-open borders fot capitalistic reasons but where exactly are all these left-wing politicians who are anti-open borders because I'm not seeing them. The only one I could at one point name is Bernie and he cucked on that a while ago.
>>540140963>drive giant trucksNo, that's a product of "green" legislation, Fuel Emissions Standards gave automanufacturers two choices, redesign engines to be more efficient (costly, difficult, time-consuming) or make vehicles larger to get into a more permissive emissions bracket (they chose this one)My 32 year old 1/2 ton truck is half the size of a brand new one, gets the same fuel milage, hauls the same loads, but it's illegal to manufacture now.Commie-posers made their own problem.
>>540141130>As leftists our politics involve faith in the working class
>>540140963Shit like this is why Hitler constantly BTFO Marxism and called it out for being fake socialism for retards. National Socialism encompasses all classes and encourages each class in a nation to uplift the rest in their own ways as collaborating collectives. In this, NS Germany was classless since everyone was on the same page while still having autonomy and identity of their own. Meanwhile Marxists are stupid niggers who are bigoted against the different classes outside of their own and in their fighting they work for Jewish capitalist interests.
>>540140963that person is working classhis doctor is working classhis accountant is working classthe barista is working classyou are working class
>>540140963zero percent chance this isn't a troll post
>>540141680>We have no political power in the westAh yes the "no true leftists"The NDP wanted to go even further and give permanent residence to every single scab.
>>540144412hitler was a faggoty anglo loving cocksucking faggot serving the interests of the globalist child raping class and so are you
>>540144428im a work from home accountant. i like to think of myself as a knight, elevated and distinct from the unwashed masses who toil away in-office or (god forbid) doing some sort of blue collar labor.
>>540141337So you're saying you do not support woke Progressive faggot values?
>>540141337holy shit, maybe it is real after all
>>540141387My aunt is a hopeless Progressive white traitor who loves open borders. My own quote lived experience quotes says otherwise.
>>540144311My first car was an old rusty 91 Mazda B series 4x4. I miss that little shitbox so much. I'd kill for trucks that or 90's Ranger sized again.
>>540144428Shut upYou're not like me, you soft-handed faggot
>>540141891Every leftist I have met in personal life has been for everything you say they are not for. Trannies, open borders, all of it.
>>540144574you might be goycattle but we are both working class
>>540140963:D but the narrative.... pffff they’re insufferable—hahaha, just look at this detail: the workers are supposed to recognize them as superiors, to show them respect, as they are "fighters for their rights"—they support the unions!!! Hahahahahahahahaha. How could they dare *not* recognize their moral leaders? That’s what really infuriates that son of a bitch—that shitty coward writing this vile trash, full of allusions to a moral superiority that exists only in the imaginations of these shitty commie parasites.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fipVECMJI2U
>>540140963didnt read it. But one guy with zero uploads is for you the legitimate united spokeperson of the left?Are you dumb?
>>540140963People who post on socialist forums are nerds and construction workers are chuds, what’s new?
>>540144428Everyone in this thread is a bourgeoisie who owns a means of production.
>>540143490Pure democracy is mob rule, even the ancients knew this.
>>540144448true but you know that's exactly what they're likeany of them stepped on a jobsite without an office lady present and they'd shit a brick
>>540140963This is a literal caricature of a liberal capitalist larping as a socialist. This has to be satire.
>>540144706>a gangrape is democracy in action. it's the will of the majority.
>>540140963This has been a longstanding problem for the left that they're not willing to confront. As parts of the left have charged headlong into identity politics, they have failed to recognise how disconnected and alienating this has been to the very working-class communities they traditionally claimed to represent.
>>540144808I'm pretty sure I've seen it before but idfk manI'm not sure if the "real leftist' in this thread is trolling or not either
>>540140963Because the whole concept of a "working class" no longer exists.Technically 99% of the working population are "working class" since they all work for wages.And the 'traditional' working class i.e carpenters, plumbers, electricians etc many times has a higher salary than university graduate office workers."Working class" today is just a metaphor for either illegal immigrants or retards in their +30s who still work in low tier jobs because they made poor life choices and are now seething about it.
>>540142206Lol. Even in the glory days of Cesar Chavez and the UFW, labor was against illegals because they were stealing their jobs. How did the modern left deal with this paradox? A posthumous #metoo to discredit him and pretend a modern leftist cunt had been the "real" leader the whole time.The left hasn't supported labor in decades. Their objective is the total destruction of existing countries and their traditions, nothing else except self-enrichment along the way
>>540144501hitler arrested his rothschilds and ransomed them off. meanwhile they funded your commie homo revolution. enjoy your monkeypox sodomite, don't slander hitler.
>>540142208kekHis chart says he's a fag and his shit's all fucked up..
>>540144972>Because the whole concept of a "working class" no longer exists.>Technically 99% of the working population are "working class" since they all work for wages.except this was always the case, and always the definition>>540145020hitler sucks angloid dicks in hell
>>540140963Leftists are just nigger-lovers now. It's a full-time job creating and memorizing excuses and cover stories for their pet apes.
>>540144570Mines a 4x4 v6 d21 with the largest cab option for the time, it actually has back seats! the folding sidwways kind. It's smaller than a modern ranger/tacoma.
>>540140963>Why yes, I just want to eat meat, drive giant trucks, and make fun of people who read books. How could you tell?
>>540144151Mm, that's why you and yours rioted for half a year over ICE deporting your scabs.
>>540142407>100% you live in a fascist nationNigga please we live in a soi oligarchy. Fascism is if socialism worked because corporatism (bludgeoning oligarchs if they act up but leaving small business owners alone) is actually functional unlike abolishing money and giving women suffrage. Women's suffrage and sexu liberation is the seizure of the means of reproduction and completely socialistic btw
>>540145061>hitlers in hellkek, you fags should return to the bunker.
>>540140963Socialism isn't a thing anymore lol. It died fucking decades ago and now trannies are trying to use it for some reason
>>540141843>Enjoy the weather, boys>"Fuck you, faggot"
>>540145061>except this was always the case, and always the definitionThe definition has no value today."Working class" back in the 1800s refered to the 90% of people who had left their rural community to work in the city factories. They worked for 15 hours per day in extremely dangerous jobs for barely any wages while also living in squalor. They had no kind of work protection should they get sick or injured. They had no pension and no leave. The social and economic divide was massive because there was no middle class, you were either dirt poor or stone rich.Today the state has practically eliminated this social structure. The majority of people no longer grind in coal mines and factories. Everyone has roughly an equal opportunity to succeed and climb the social economic ladder and achieve a comfortable middle class life. Those who work with their bodies usually get overwhelming compensation and high wages. Everyone has medical protection and to claim leave. To "fight for the working class" has become completely redundant because the working class isnt in distress.As I said, the word "working class" has become a synonym for people who simply made poor life choices and ended up in unskilled jobs and seething about how they cant treat themselves with luxury goods and exotic vacations.It's either that, or it's merely a synonym for immigrants, mostly those who are here illegaly or who entirely live on benefits.
>>540141130>its fake we dont actually act or talk like that.>ignore the endless hours of audio and video evidence of leftists ranging from politicians, to celebrities, to academics, to street level randoms talking and acting in exactly this way about the working class.
>>540144706a state without parasites and void institutions with special referendums for people with degrees on the matter could fit, and the mob obey as always... , it's obvious that "mob rule" = tribal chaos and corruption.we need state, laws, judges, intitutions, hospitals, universities, banks, infrastructures, maintenance, etc etc....but not crooked.... not rigged...not directed with propaganda, not ruled by scammers, not ruled by thieves, not ruled by parasites, not ruled by tv politicians, not ruled by a mafia of inbreed, lazy and evil mfs.they rely on the false legitimacy their propaganda have attributed to the decision of a sheep-like majority—a majority precisely swayed by that propaganda, voting without any critical thought. that isn't democracy; that’s just universal suffrage. If you own no property and have no education, on what intellectual basis or legit interest do you vote? On the basis that voting for one candidate or the other might get you a paycheck or privileges? privileges at the expense of the productive part of society upon which all this riffraff parasitizes.... lmao what the hell kind of democracy is this? none... it's a charade
>>540143936>i remember now. it was berny sanders who wanted to build a wall to keep mexicans out,If we're being fair he was on record for years saying that open border policies are explicitly harmful to the native worker and that he opposed it.>but most of all>fuck janniesNow that's based.
>>540140963I am working class and I also hate the working class and hope I move out of it and oppress retarded niggers one day. Death to socialists, and a boot on the face of the workers.
>>540141891You act like we don't know leftists irl. And see endless leftists spouting leftist positions in every arena of public life - most of which are controlled by leftists (picrel). Even video games are being filled with feminists, troons and niggers now - by their leftist developers.Leftism means>Hatred of white people>Endless third world immigration>Trooning kids>Manhating feminism>The exaltation of uglinessThat's it. One retarded tankie on /pol/ trying to convince us of xhis/xhers own fantastical delusion about the nature of his own side, does not stand up to the endless mass of evidence presented by reality.Don't believe us? Go on any mainstream leftist subreddit and put up a post saying you think the left ought to drop all the anti-white and tranny stuff because its putting people off from joining. You'll be perma-banned by the mods in a New York second.
>>540141337Bullshit.
>>540145522why did he sellout? he wanted 16 year olds to vote, an infinite browns recently. what new discovery did socialism make besides dick chopping troons? i mustve missed it.
>>540144972>And the 'traditional' working class i.e carpenters, plumbers, electricians etc many times has a higher salary than university graduate office workers.Sadly we do not, trades are easily the most impacted profession by immigration.
>>540141172>>540141337How did you faggots even find your way here?Its wierd seeing actual socialists on 4chan again, I thought you all ran off to leftypol over a decade ago as part of the occupy fallout.Like did you get lost or something?I dont think youre trolls because you seem to be actually engaging in the discussion.You're naive morons, but thats standard for all leftists.Seriously, how the fuck did you get here?Is it the jew hate, because progressives are islamists now?What happened?
>>540141891Friend, I used to be involved in street-level lefty activismAnyone in those circles who advocates for immigration restriction will catch a beatingI assume you're not being dishonest and are just a sheltered type who doesn't actually personally know any actual left-activists
>>540144972This is also a big part of why conventional marxism is no longer relevant, the circumstances where a large segment of the population worked in factories and mills as completely interchangable laborers has been gone since the immediate postwar era at the very latest. Politics are like warfare, they track one to one with technology, and the previous era soon only survives in naming conventions/titles and ceremony
>>540141387Then why do leftists push for open borders? Because it's a fact that they do.
>>540141387Its wild that you people still say stuff like this when the Biden administration was only like 2 years ago.Either you have the memory of a goldfish or you think we do.Either way makes you an asshole.
>>540140963Of course they do, because modern socialists are all champagne socialists or dweebs who just don't want to work and get gibs. None of them would fight a 5 year long physical, ideological war to get their ideology implemented.
>>540141469>or whoever it isKike slave puppet detected!!Not really, just pretending this is a /pig/ thread.
>>540145674some DSA momentum most likely. they're insufferable and wont stay long. i wont even gorepost I'll just pepper redpills and theyll be facists in a decade.
>>540145668Not sure about kiwis but here you usually make bank as a carpenter or a plumber. They are highly desired trades. Very few immigrants actually work in these professions.Some trades can also be low tier obviously, such as general labourer or painter (because of high competition).
>>540145649Because at the time the broad coalition he was a part of was generally aligned with pro worker sentiments and could get away with opposing open border policies on the grounds that they were "libertarian koch bros corporatist schemes." Obviously the foundations of the coalition shifted significantly in recent decades and he could nolonger criticize those policies because importing replacement workers from the global south became a top 3 priority completely knocking the interests of the native worker off the official platform entirely.
>>540141127He already knows that. He just thinks that he'll be one of the ones on top (instead of shot dead and dumped in a ditch) so he's ok with that.
So it seems that the memo came down from globohomo corporate to change the narrative that leftists love the common folk & that leftists don't support immigration.There are posts in this thread that are suspiciously off kilter.
>>540140963you know how when someone is talking you kinda zone out and the voice becomes an echo and you are completely on autopilot not thinking not listening but still kinda getting the information, kinda like when your brain is at batter save mode but to a point you notice it yourself so you are in a state of limbo of being aware and being somewhere far away, maybe even shellshocked? Thats how i react when i see a long reddit post. I know with 99% certainity that nothing that this person says will enlighten or even entertain me. There are nearly zero cases that put me into standby but reddit is one of them. i wish nothing good for people who frequent there to say the least
>>540141598There is no difference, not in america at least.Though, american conservatives are liberal by global and historical standards.Believing that homosexuals should not be executed on sight is a pretty liberal position.
>>540142171The first thing the bolsjevics did in russia was to sieze farms from common workers.
>>540142206Are you an Olympian? Because Jesus christ those are some amazing mental gymnastics.
>>540141387We watched communist terrorists engage in street violence and intimidation for over a decade for open borders. Communists are still committing terror attacks against ICE for undoing open border consequences.
>>540145906kek
>>540142120Totally not a social contagion.Notice how they dont talk about desistence?Im honestly surprised there arent more shootings.
>>540145831>broad coalitionwas that a real thing? a coalition of broads is exactly what i think of, brown women screeching "fuck whitey" at the top of their lungs and then they go home to thier BWC. berny was a part of that right?
Belief in open borders follows logically from blank slatism and believe that ancestry is irrelevant to a person's character and abilities
>>540141385>The culture war is bad because it distracts us from the class warI say that.But I see trannies as the poison in the well, the cancer in the body.The progressive stack employed to ruin us.I see them as traitors at best, and useful idiots at worst. I mean, at least a traitor has motive, rather than ruining everything out of sheer niggerish animalism.Need to be beaten and exiled regardless however.Exile is preferable to capital punishment because it gives them time when they're dying in the wilderness to realize what a good thing they threw away.Yes when I say exile I don't mean deportation, I mean give them a basic survival kit and a weeks worth of MREs and dump them in the absolute middle of bumfuck nowhere.
>>540140963They hate White people and men, not the working class per se.
>>540141306trvke
>>540145829It's pretty international that carpenters have lowish wages mainly due to immigrants. Low barrier of entry and all, can be true some places for plumbers as it depends on how the qualifications are handled.
>>540140963That is funny. I am a capitalist/free trade person. And I still support unions. You are allowed to organize to get what you want. Sometimes this is going to backfire on you. Just like everything it is a gamble.
>>540141583Good catch. They always do this. >>540141387If your entire worldview relies on gaslighting, it might be a good idea to rethink your stances, you repulsive communist
>>540142206Those "pro worker policies" are what led to mass offshore of our industrial base in the 90s and 00s, and now a new generation of lunatics are trying to do it again.When we talk about the decadence of the west, this is what we mean.
>>540140963Why are you defending billionaires, anon?
>>540141130You're in for a rude awakening.
>>540142299It was a deranged time under the rule of the woke.
>>540142465Written by a biological male sure.
>>540146052You guys have been against men and White people for decades. Everyone is talking about it. If you think trannies are the issue, you’re retarded. That was just one example of how extreme and retarded you all became. Like 5% of you people spoke out against it in total, too. You’re all just band wagoners that hop onto whatever IdPol meme shit gets put out there as long as those who have to pay the price are normal men and people of ethnic European descent. No, jews are not ethnic Europeans.
>>540146109>Those "pro worker policies" are what led to mass offshore of our industrial base in the 90s and 00sThe EPA and China actively soliciting manufacturing has far more to do with it. Sure annoying employment legislation played a part, but compared to only paying like $100 for an industrial park to be developed because the Chinese ate the cost to get you there it's pretty minor.
>>540140963I'm here to share a lesson on speed reading leftist speech. I only read the first part of any paragraph. In doing so the story becomes.."I need to vent like most of you. I was at the local cafe, two construction workers as they walked past my table, his buddy chuckled, It was a joke. Here's the thing that gets me, how are we supposed to build solidarity. I'm just so tired."That's what I read. I skipped the rest. I don't know or care how accurate that information is. But I saved at least 10 seconds.
>>540146194>You guys have been against men and White people for decades.You're a fucking retard.I'm rightwing as fuck.I simply see the culture war faggotry as a Fifth Column, and I see all the trannies, white-guilters and open-border niggers as traitors and retards and their continued existence is like having a thistle in the garden.
>>540146060>They hate White people and men, not the working class per se.A lot of the strange behavior of the modern left is explicable when you consider that most of its funding comes from rich jews and homosexuals.
>>540140963this is another poltard bait post on Reddit not even the shittiest libtard can post something this gay
>>540145371Yeah likelyYou know it wasn't the umbrella or the bag that made those guys want to dunk on this femboy
>>540141172>I refuse to believe blithering imbeciles are actually as stupid as they areHey. Did you know that some faggots cut their own junk off to larp as (((female)))?
>>540146240> The EPA and China actively soliciting manufacturing has far more to do with it.Yes, but chink competitiveness in that arena would never have occurred if Henry Kissinger and the other globohomo jews hadn’t set up trade deals to punish the American middle and lower classes. They said for decades “Americans make too much money” and the repeated it endlessly and internationally. The leftist Dems themselves said it. “Americans making too much money” was part of the fucking justification for replacing us and hugely undercutting our earning power and eviscerating our economy.
>>540146415>Did you know that some faggots cut their own junk off to larp as (((female)))?Castration is the best solution for them though.
>>540146109What destroyed manufacturing in the USA was the civil rights act, which made it illegal to keep stupid people off assembly lines.See Detroit in the 1970s and 80This is also the reason for the problems Boeing is currently experiencing in its North Charleston plant.
>>540141387There was never a unanimous decision by the Cominterns regarding the matter, and since Marxism and his philosophy regards nations as temporary historical products, and with borders dividing workers who share common class interests, there were always communists advocating for very liberal immigration policies. Others on the other hand advocated for very strict border controls to secure the economy against capitalist expedients, and hostorically this has been much more common among communist governments.So your position isn't fully honest, it's true that it's capitalism profiting from the immigration but there are communists who also share the open border view.
>>540146516I thought it was Reagan doing all the free trade agreements and allowing corporations to outsource all their work cheaper is what killed it
>>540146446>but chink competitiveness in that arena would never have occurred if Henry Kissinger and the other globohomo jews hadn’t set up trade deals to punish the American middle and lower classes.It's almost certainly the deal they struck to get the 'free' market reforms in China.Just saying the majority of the fuckery was governmental led, the bitching about the western workers was just a propaganda campaign.
>>540146332> A lot of the strange behavior of the modern left is explicable when you consider that most of its funding comes from rich jews and homosexuals.Well sure, I understand that. It doesn’t change the reality that none of them are talking about that elephant in the room, nor care to do anything about it. They’re still the same status quo anti-male and anti-White types they’ve always been. They could distinguish themselves as being different than the establishment Dem party, but they never will. My issue with them is that their rank and file voters do hate men, and ethnic European Americans. I was raised as a lefty myself, I heard it for decades from all of them, my own mother included. Only a fool would trust the “it’s just Globohomo jew funding” argument as a justification. I’ve heard masses of their every day supporters talking shit about White men my entire life. Their awful evil shit magically becomes policy and law in every conceivable place, even fucking churches.
>>540140963It's been like the for decades. Socialists only fight for better wages for white collar jobs, they despise and oppress blue collar workers and really just want them to just be an underclass of illegal immigrants.
>>540146134remember the trannies at the white house on easter i believe it was. crazy looking back at how fucking gay it all was.
>>540146596>hey globohomo jew policies that purposely destroyed the economy, communities and families of White Americans were bad and on purpose>but hey just trust new globohomo jew shit goy No
>>540146577And the EPA prosecuting and regulating businesses for retarded shit. Like Mountain Pass mine getting closed down due to leaking radioactive shit into the topsoil at it's evaporation tanks, sounds bad but they set up the evaporation tanks on a dry lake bed in the middle of a desert for that reason.
>>540146669>but hey just trust new globohomo jew shit goyNo I definitely do not say that.
>>540146645you'd better get ready for it again because after Trump's current term the next elections will be a bloodbath for the republicans, and the left is going to go harder than they ever did in the 2010s. they'll all magically be pro-israel again, too.
>>540143097But I thought we were all nazis.How can we be ziomists if were nazis
>>540146516>boeingBoeing's issues go far deeper than just the niggers at the SC plant. Nothing critical that couldn't get shipped up to Renton and remanned if necessary was being made there. What did become a critical issue is the fact that because of collusion between corporate and the union, you've had a massive bleed of institutional knowledge and skill from the workforce since the late 90s. It started to rear its head as pressure ratcheted up with Renton and to a lesser degree Everett having to pick up the production slack from the SC plant, but that was a function of the extant knowledgable workforce being spread too thin by increased production demand more than anything. Afterall even if the SC plant weren't run by a bunch of nogs there still would have been teething pains for the first 5 or so years as they built up skills and winnowed their laborforce.
>>540146645Yeah they all came out to argue why a tranny jiggling his disgusting fake tits on the WH lawn was somehow courageous and amazing. Just like plenty of them were out there kneeling on command to any nigger who felt like extracting a humiliation ritual from a White person
>>540140963the working class also hates socialists so it's a net zero
>>540146088I used to think that way too, but now I don't agree with unions; after looking into them, I see they’re all tied to a political party and an ideology—haha. What does that have to do with the actual conditions of my job at the foundry, the carpentry shop, the electronics plant, or at SpaceX or Amazon? Nothing. What's more, after years of observing them, I see factories and banks closing and laying off thousands upon thousands of workers—and where are the unions? They’re ruining agriculture and fishing—and where the hell are the damn unions? Eating seafood and drinking champagne with the rest of the parasites, that's where. I’ve realized that unionizing is just imposing a collective will—or, in other words, communism, collectivism, socialism, or social democracy. If you aren't happy with your job, you leave and find another one; you don't force the owner to do what you and the rest of those clowns decided for him in a collective meeting—it's unbelievable. What all these ignorant morons should see as beneficial to them is an abundance of companies and capital investment in the country; not the contrary....pffff... that way, if they aren't happy or want a different job or higher pay, it’s as simple as switching companies. And since there would be so many employers, they’d have to raise wages or else they wouldn't hire anyone—because a worker works for money, not out of collective solidarity with the business owner or the other workers.The funny thing is that the Left tells its voters it's better for them if there are no companies, no business owners, and no capitalism—hahahahahahaha.
>>540140963it's so remarkable how these people don't understand that our compromised government runs the economy through central planning everything is controlled like Amazon and Apple aren't huge because of entrepreneurship; they were given subsidies and preferential treatment that no small business owner would ever receiveit's so obvious and their solution to the problem is to give even more power to the governmentgenuinely retarded
>>540140963I can smell the onions wafting off this image.
>>540140963Fake and gay but this is how leftists think.
>>540143490People like you prove democracy is a mistake.You are a fucking idiot.The idea that you and People like you have any input on the laws that govern our society is horrific.
>>540146714It seems like you’re just explaining that stuff away as shit that “just happens” when that’s not the case. It was done purposely by globohomo jews. That’s why the Chinese communist party gave Henry Kissinger CPC state medals and awards, and they rolled out the red carpet for him when he went to visit a few years back when he croaked. The entire civilization got sold out, that isn’t shit that just happens. There were tons of people who were against it at the time and in the decades in between, they were curiously never allowed to have their viewpoints heard.
>>540140963Socialist realising the working class cares not for their modern culture war bullshit and only wants to lead a comfortable life for themselves and their families. Also holy shit that guy is a walking stereotype, it's impressive.
>>540144151The actual right got severely pissed off at Elon and Trump when they advocated for illegal Indian imports and caused Elon to crash out that he couldn't replace white labor with scam Indian labor. And we know Dems staged a literal insurgency in Minnesota to cover for illegals there and the little somalian fraud scheme Tim had going. It's why we had some lovely national crash outs from kikes and Democrats about some lady and dude trying to kill ICE agents getting their shit deservedly pushed in. Just blow the whistle 3 times and you cunts came right out of the wood work as called. Lefty faggots are the ONLY ones showing up to get in the way of ICE trying to remove illegals. I mean Dems had a crashout over a murderer being sent back home of all things. Come the fuck on. The right hates illegals, we have no houses or jobs for them. But kikes keep on importing them, no matter fucking what. At least Trump slows the flow, but he's kiked too. No one ever reverses it.
>>540143649This.Look at marx's personal life and it all makes sense.
>>540141387>dumb leftist conflates political power insurance with economics>not one anon calls out this obvious misunderstandingHonestly it is tiresome to explain it all.You would have to go back to the dissolution of the Democratic-Republican party to understand why and also comprehend how congressional apportionment works, these two things cemented our nation into an inevitable power struggle. The Republican party was pro-federalism, it weaponized collective lobbying wealth to secure influence and victories across the nation. In the wake of Lincoln's term as president, Democrats (classical libertarians) realized they couldn't fight federalism head-on and jumped on the bandwagon, this is where your fake & gay "big switch" supposedly occurred when in reality all they did was become federalists. Congressional apportionment since its beginning has relied on nothing more than headcounts of people, citizenship was never strictly enforced for the counts and so foreigners were counted towards apportionment totals, eventually parties noticed this. One thing that is unclear is who started the immigration manipulation to spoof congressional apportionment, it's pretty much taboo to even bring the subject up in government circles, nevermind getting to audit it. One thing is clear though, both parties have blatantly used immigration to their advantage to gerrymander districts and manipulate congressional apportionment to gain seats, as well as electoral college votes. Lobbyists that have the parties in their pocket also know this, they know how to manipulate political issues and demographics in ways to stonewall threats to their hegemony, thus they are more than happy to keep the farce going.
>>540146862>It was done purposely by globohomo jews....Which is what you can infer from my original statement, it was a coordinated effort by both governments to offshore to China. It being materially more expensive to produce in America was just propaganda to obfuscate it.
>>540146733> What did become a critical issue is the fact that because of collusion between corporate and the union, you've had a massive bleed of institutional knowledge and skill from the workforce since the late 90s.So what you’re trying to say is they got rid of the workers who knew their shit and were dedicated? IdPol policies which precluded hiring a new generation of people who would have learned all of that and been dedicated? Instead we got a bunch of employees who didn’t care as much because they got preferential hiring and now we find ourselves in the position we do? Yeah but I’m sure decades of excluding people like the guy who went on to become the SkyKing from having a chance had nothing to do with it.
>>540146722no way. they cant implement all the globohomo stuff anymore they have to create something new and gay. both maga and neoliberalism are over. groyper/dsa future paths exist. jews are in serious trouble and they know it. i bet jd vance gets appointed in 2028 while the dems reinvent themselves. and they have to snuff out the dsa types lol.
>>540144428You sure dont act like you believe this
>>540146741Socialists seem curiously obsessed with socializing and social issues, they don’t give a fuck about people that are actually working. They tell those guys to get bent
>>540144428Oh look, a dipshit. Blue collar jobs are "working class" because they get their hands dirty and work in the elements. White collar jobs are not considered that because they are far better compensated and treated way better, which includes A/C. So doctors and accountants are NOT working class. If you do your work in A/C conditions, you are NOT working class or blue collar.
>>540142171HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA>just let us groom kids and give them HRT >niggers don't need to go to jail, they just need a social worker or something >whites need to be taxed to pay reparations to every marginalized group >borders are outdated and racistyou redditniggers are something else
>>540140963Yeah, unless they're a bakuninist, they basically believe as gospel that the working man is too stupid to save himself and needs to be rescued by an intelligentsia vanguard who knows what better for the working man than the working man himself.This is because most of the people who came up with the doctrine were gentry and minor nobles who were convinced of their own social superiority. That's why they're so paternalistic. It's just an continuation of the same "we know best" noblesse oblige, despite their insistence in "classless" societies.
>>540146745Capitalism vs communism is an inherently materialistic and thus jewish paradigm in the first place. It asserts that human contentment and happiness must only be functions of consoooooming
>>540147071I feel like that sort of disqualified a lot of the working class then. There's AC in some factories I'm sure. I'd describe factory workers as working class or are they something else? What about small business owners? They probably have access to HVAC.
>>540147155....AC is an example not the totality of the difference anon.
>>540146888> Lefty faggots are the ONLY ones showing up to get in the way of ICE trying to remove illegals.Chekkd. The lefty rank and file maintain a really deep seated hatred of men in general but White men especially and people as a whole. They do things like that because internally they feel it’s a virtue to oppose da evil White man. Any White man and boy is necessarily an extension and beneficiary of whatever evil power systems they think they’re fighting.
>>540140963He's not wrong. I could never be a oublic servant. Working my ass off to make you faggots' lives better? Fuck that shit , i can tell you that right now, for a fact. The average retard is a stupid retarded cunt and hasn't deserved jack fucking shit.
>>540141652>if we just keep repeating it despite reality it'll be truesimilar to how you think a man can be a woman
I don't think they hate the working class, they're just very unrealistic about what the working class actually is. Communism has always been more popular among high-class managerial types, and I think the appeal is obvious, since communism is (at least in theory, whatever you think about the practice) a more elegant solution to the management of civilization. Managerial types from the managerial class enjoy the managerial excellence of the communist system. But of course blue collar workers aren't like that. They're true reactionaries. They want the same thing they got last time. They don't like things that are different. It's not that they're fascist or right wing or even conservative in any intellectual way, they're simply accustomed to what they were born into and don't see any need to change it or make it internally consistent. They want Applebee's again.Communists repeatedly bang their head into a wall trying to convince people that are reflexively suspicious of change that the change they're proposing will be a good idea, where no amount of reason or evidence could make a difference. Ironically the same reason the old managerial classes arose, at some point you go full Rules for Radicals and just start tricking people into helping you with the changes you think would be good for them, whether those changes are capitalist or communist or fascist or liberal or whatever.
>>540140963Wow...its ogre Kek
>>540141337This is kind of like the phenomenon where women want to be leftist but leftist men cause then physical revulsion.
>>540147009>So what you’re trying to say is they got rid of the workers who knew their shit and were dedicated?Sort of. They had to get rid of the pensions because they wouldn't be able to afford the payouts for a retiring workforce of the size necessary for productivity right now, 30 years later. It took a decade of sneaky fuckery before they just imported a bunch of people nobody'd ever seen before to take part in an emergency vote the day after christmas to push through the end of the pensions going forward back in I want to say 2011 in exchange for a one time $10k cash buyout. A lot of skilled oldheads left in the aftermath of the MD merger but the pensions getting plain as day ballot stuffed out with an emergency vote after the contract failed to pass a half dozen times before was the last straw that had most of the good workers saying fuck it and leaving. It's not even really idpol shit keeping skilled workers away, it's the dwindling compensation for the amount of work. The guys doing wing assembly blow out their bodies in less than 20 years and sealers easily halve their remaining lifespans dealing with all the MEK and MPK and chromates involved in their jobs. Whites can get jobs no problem but they're not so hungry for the positions as they were 20+ years ago because the juice isn't worth the squeeze anymore.
>>540141130Socialism is about locking the class structure as it is in place, securing the wealth of those already wealthy and putting them in charge. Then enslaving the poor and hypnotizing them with promises of free things.
>>540141387I guess the is technically correct because guy don't want White people to be able to move anywhere. You just want to import ethnics until we're completely genocided.
>>540146924> Democrats (classical libertarians) realized they couldn't fight federalism head-on and jumped on the bandwagon, this is where your fake & gay "big switch" supposedly occurredIt wasn’t fake and gay though. The Democrats became man and White people haters on behalf of globohomo jews, a position the Republican Party had previously occupied to a decent degree. >it’s just big random happenings goyThen why the fuck do they always predictably land on pro-Israel and anti-goyim policies regardless of who is in power, eternally, for decades on end?
>>540141491No, they aren't. We could easily support ourselves without immigrants and did for many years.
>>540147322> I don't think they hate the working class, they're just very unrealistic about what the working class actually is.One doesn’t need your essay to understand they hate men and White Americans and always have. Half of them really don’t understand various issues with economics, socialism or communism anyway. They literally just hate men and White people, and as long as something like that is served up for them, they’re happy.
>>540140963Those were lumpenproles, which will be executed during the revolution inshallah.
>>540141619Pic rel
>>540147371>sort of So yeah, they purposely got rid of White men, forbid hiring a new icky generation of us, and now we get to hear bullshit justifications like this after the fact?
>>540141387dont bother, these retards think neoliberals are communists and are the same thing lmao
>>540147142i agree with the caduceus of the "capitalism vs communism" part, but not the second part, hahaha that has no sense, first you say a truth but then you spam the propaganda about consume....wtf?what is wrong with you? does eating a big ribeye steak make you unhappy? or buying a better computer, new clothes, a more modern fridge, or a nicer car? does that make you unhappy? are you a weirdo? what is your problem with consumption? don't consume air, food, or water save the planet then—or better yet, let us ration it for you: you eat whatever the collective decides is best, courtesy of the philanthropists who care so much about the planet and others :) right, sure...
>>540141891You aren't able to explain how it's a misrepresentation because you're lying, whereas we can point to multiple real life examples of you doing these things and everything we say you do.
>>540141130You are not working class. You're a pink haired freakish lump.
>>540142926he's from india. reread that post and notice the grammatical errors that only jeets and other brownoids make
>>540142407explain why fascism is bad, explain what it is and make your case for why your system is better when fascism historically has been more pro worker and pro society than anything you think is good
>>540140963Kek top banter even if fake
>>540147429That is correct. That’s absolutely what they want. You will never hear one of them say “maybe immigration isn’t a good thing” if it could save the life of a little White boy or girl who are nearly always attacked by those kinds. They don’t care and they say it doesn’t exist. If they admit it exists, they’ll say you’re stupid and don’t understand statistics. If you point out how per capita has functioned in statistics since it was introduced, they’ll say you’re racist for caring about the children in your community and family. They don’t care, they hate us.
>>540143097My lord you are fucking retarded
>>540142171> Showing people the things I personally said and did is a misrepresentation of my thoughts and actions You must be an antichrist who blasphemously refers to himself as a Jew
>>540147641The second part absolutely makes sense memeflag moishe, but you already know that. We don’t do the pretending not to understand arguments game here.
>>540143133Can you provide an example of your politics?
>>540140963>muh big trucks
>>540147759We’re all simultaneously Zionists, jews, Hitler himself, and Skeletor.
>>540143248They don't really have any other males except for people like Graham Platner the predator tier dudes pretending they are 'left wing' for pussy. Or faggots like this op who incessantly repeat themselves while saying absolutely nothing while smugly enjoying his 'intellectual prowess' over 'fascists' when he doesn't even know what the word means.
>>540147810put your arguments over the table or stfu retard
>>540147409That would be any political ideologies in practice. Even in autonomous anarchist villages experience from the 19 and 20th centuaries, you'll find a charismatic faggot trying to be top dog at the prejudice of others with a groupie fanbase, killing the village in a few years. The only ones that did not destroyed themselves were linked to a city economy and leeching it, even then, a faggot will do something violent putting an end to their retarded fantasies.A good leader should be like a flower: short-lived (like 12 months then never heard again).
It's true, the American proletariat are low class, low IQ, animals.I am basically a communist in name only anymore. I still believe in the idea of a socialist utopia, but it will never happen among the American proletariat apes.You cannot continue to fight for the working class when the working class simply doesn't care about themselves. Many American proles hate socialists/communists because they might temporarily lose their $7.50/hour slave job in the fight for better wages and working conditions. How can you fight for workers that seem to enjoy being a wage slave for Mr capitalist monopoly man? I guess you just give up and let that pathetic brainwashed wage slave continue to be a sad pathetic wage slave all his life.Lumpenproles are abundant im America. Not interested in any change or revolution. So deeply conditioned to be a good slave that it is literally a part of their evolutionary biology now.
>>540148097Denounce the paris commune
>>540144166>even if I never watched tv or social media once in my life, if i stumbled across a tranny i would be repulsed and the uncanny valley effect would be deeply unsettling and i would know something was wrong. The truth of the universe is might makes right, chads are always right. the modern gay troon communists will never win because they have no rizz and are weak sissie fags who will never convince the majority to take their side because weakness is repulsive on a fundamental level.... even the early nazis had a bunch of gays but they were at least chads so they could attract supporters. you are an aura-less cuck. hit the gym or cope fag./thread
>>540147572Stereotyping enemies this way feels good but numbs the mind, reddit spacer. Although you need strength of character to view the other as human and yet oppose them anyway.
>>540148099pathetic are your tyrant wannabe arguments, go to work mf, and fk your hands or your brain as we the rest do
>>540148223I hereby denounce the commune de Paris.
>>540147110>the working man is too stupid to save himselfNo no, the working man can definitely save himself, might even save his family or extended community but that's about as far as it goes. People aren't naturally geared to care about people they'll never associate with, you see this at the state level but it's painfully obvious at the federal level where you get one-size-fits-all policy. White collar people used to be working people, only reason they aren't now is because someone else outsourced their agency to them, that being working people who seek "experts" or whatever. Workers create representatives and other trust structures, even federalism is constructed on a basis of community but scaled. Marx is retarded because he sold revolution as a necessity and failed to respect what workers naturally created, Bakunin was also retarded for being an anarchist.>>540147439>The Democrats became man and White people haters on behalf of globohomo jewsIn the 20th century they did, they inevitably began running out of talking points as libertarians and became liberals or just federalist libertarians, many became socialists or outright communists. The "uniparty" as people like to call it is just federalism with barely-checked lobbying, parties and people who enrich themselves both in citizen donations and taxes. The Democrat party has come a long way in a gradual migration towards their completely liberal statist and almost communist current form because at the core of federalism lies a struggle for dominance, not the goodwill of the citizenry and they lost the script a LONG time ago.
>>540147624Modern marxism is identity marxism. Nobody except solo internet spergs believes it's about economic class anymore, and you can be a neoliberal capitalist through and through and march with the hammer and sickle flying. Try that saying you want closed borders.
>>540148099>Many American proles hate socialists/communists because they might temporarily lose their $7.50/hour slave job in the fight for better wages and working conditionsMore Americans earn less than minimum wage through prison labour than earn minimum wage.
>>540147915>u gotta prove to me, a jew who will never believe you, why judaism is extremely materialistic >the people who worship legal codes, currency and usury are not materialists What the fuck? That’s the entire point of hiding God into a room in the holy of holies where only chief priest can go whisper his name into the empty cube space once a year is. If people legitimately believe God is only one thing and he lives in an empty room jews control, that gives them an incredible amount of power to use for materialistic, power seeking ends. God is both one and many at the same fucking time, the same way it can be daytime in Tel Aviv but night time where I live. The same way we can be flying through space on Earth at incredible speeds but experience standing still on the planet itself.The entire religion asserts that nothing can be known about God or spirituality, definitely not in our daily lives lives. We have to touch base with a fucking ((expert)) to enjoy some aspect of what we’re endowed with by virtue of having been created by the real creator.
>>540148099>t. Memeflag jew
>>540148416>>540148524bullshit buffer overflow
>>540148492>American prison labourI am aware of it. It's basically real life slavery. You may get paid 10 cents/ hour.
>>540148665>memeflag
>>540148246> Stereotyping enemies this way feels good but numbs the mindI’ve experienced leftists hating on White men my entire life. My own feminist mother and grandmother engaged in it heavily. That’s not even beginning to consider what school was like. White boys get crucified if we so much as think about defending ourselves from an onslaught of abuse from your pet IdPol classes. We’ve all experienced how your kind predictably, eternally takes the easy path and sides up with insane White man haters every single time, too. You guys were demanding White men kneel to people who hate us, holding signs that said “Erase Whiteness” a couple short years back. Back in the Obama years when I was a lefty myself, I was an avid DaikyKos reader. I remember the constant opinion articles about replacing White men and minimizing our participation in society as an electoral strategy very well. It was what made me become extremely disillusioned with the leftist shit.
>>540148732And more people get themselves incarcerated than willingly work for federal minimum wage. So no, many Americans do not exist in your example.
>>540148753hahaha actually you has a memeflag :D
>>540148874In a sense. Mine's still more respectable though for the time being.
>>540148451> Try that saying you want closed borders.Cool it with the antisemitism
>>540148822>And more people get themselves incarcerated than willingly work for federal minimum wage.Incarceration in a state that doesn't push prison labor is honestly better than the regular minimum wage 9 to 5 in America. At least prisoners get 3 hots, a cot, and a roof over their heads. The typical low paid American wage slave doesn't even earn enough to guarantee that.
>>540148665>t. jew who has no rebuttal for my evisceration of his materialism cultOk
>>540148937i love your flag and usa, but politically is a meme, biden was a joke and trump it's the same joke, pff and obama? pffff clinton??? no comments...
>>540148822There are many millions of people working for the federal minimum wage, easily over 2 million or whatever our current huge prison population is. Thats not even considering all of the people who can’t find work at all. What kind of an argument is this?
>>540148984>The typical low paid American wage slave doesn't even earn enough to guarantee that.The typical $7.50 employee is an ex con nigger in the South.
>>540149056We definitely think your Sandy bucket of crabs is a meme.
>>540149056Our parties are infected with liberalism, the politicians that lobbyists nominate are supposed to be ineffectual but still ultimately globalist.
>>540149089>There are many millions of people working for the federal minimum wageThere's 840,000 Americans who work for Federal minimum wage anon. Most are prospectless niggers who have it as a parole condition.
>>540149123There are tens of millions of Americans working for that. Any wagie cashier at any dollar general in any state that doesn’t have its own higher minimum wage is making that, just as an example off the top of my head. Former prison niggers can hardly get hired at all, that’s why they have such high rates of recidivism.
>>540149191>t. Lying 5 eyes poster
>>540149127what we? fkn retard? (you) alone communist/socialist/retard delusional moron
>>540149222>Any wagie cashier at any dollar general in any state that doesn’t have its own higher minimum wage is making that, just as an example off the top of my head.No. No they do not. DOL statistics have only about 840,000 working for federal minimum wage, most are recidivist offenders.
>>540149178>lobbyiststhis is the silent cancer within usa and europe, and has nothing to do with capitalism but with cheating
>>540149241>Knows less about his own country than a foreign spy. Oh saaaay can you seee!
>>540149323We'll excise that cancer one day soon.
>>540148524do jews have a pope? i don't understand the post.
>>540149446>do jews have a pope?....Well they haven't had a head priest since the second temple.
>>540149347Not at all. I can observe the homeless person vomiting on the street the way I did this morning on my way to work. Or talk to any number of the people I’ve known and been related to who make ends meet on minimum wage and have for years. None of which have ever been former prison niggers. The former prison niggers I’ve actually known didn’t have jobs because no one would hire them, go figure.What kind of a foreign person is so invested in a topic like this, and treating the laughably unreliable and false BLS numbers as authoritative fact? Traders on markets don’t even trust those numbers anymore. You’re so obviously a 5 eyes poster it’s painful. lol
the modern left in the US is pathetic and ineffective by design
>>540149323> this is the silent cancer within usa and europeAIPAC and related organizations have been around for an extremely long time now, it isn’t new.
>>540149440from your lips to god's ears :D
>>540149682>I can observe the homeless person vomiting on the street the way I did this morning on my way to workThey don't get federal minimum wage anon.
>>540149832>AIPAChahaha yes, and 300 more, do you see any journalist in the TV propaganda machine, or any congressman, promoting an information campaign or taking a stand against lobbying? And then you add, "It isn't new"—damn... well, of course it isn't, hahaha. What a genius.
>>540140963This is obviously fake tho Redditors do think this way
:D actually i noticed we all have memeflags xDDD
