One day as Napoleon was speaking of the Divinity of Christ, General Bertrand said:"I can not conceive, Sire, how a great man like you can believe that the Supreme Being ever exhibited himself to men under a human form, with a body, a face, mouth, and eyes. Let Jesus be whatever you please— the highest intelligence, the purest heart, the most profound legislator, and, in all respects, the most singular being who has ever existed. I grant it. Still he was simply a man, who taught his disciples, and deluded credulous people, as did Orpheus, Confucius, Brahma. Jesus caused himself to be adored, because his predecessors, Isis and Osiris, Jupiter and Juno, had proudly made themselves objects of worship. The ascendency of Jesus over his time, was like the ascendency of the gods and the heroes of fable. If Jesus has impassioned and attached to his chariot the multitude—if he has revolutionized the world— see in that only the power of genius, and the action of a commanding spirit, which vanquishes the world, as so many conquerors have done— Alexander, Caesar, you, Sire, and Mohammed with a sword.” Napoleon replied: “I know men, and I tell you that Jesus Christ is not a man. Superficial minds see a resemblance between Christ and the founders of empires and the gods of other religions. That resemblance does not exist. There is between Christianity and whatever other religion the distance of infinity."https://www.loganchristianfellowship.com/uploads/3/8/9/7/38975341/napoleon_bonaparte_-_thoughts_about_the_christ.pdf
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>>540150710Napoleon continues:“We can say to the authors of every other religion, ‘You are neither gods nor the agents of the Deity. You are but missionaries of falsehood, moulded from the same clay with the rest of mortals. You arc made with all the passions and vices inseparable from them. Your temples and your priests proclaim your origin.’ Such will be the judgment, the cry of conscience, of whoever examines the gods and the temples of paganism."“As for me, I say no. I summon entire Olympus to my tribunal. I judge the gods, but am far from prostrating myself before their vain images. The gods, the legislators of India and of China, of Homer and of Athens, have nothing which can overawe me."“It is not so with Christ. Every thing in him astonishes me. His spirit overawes me, and his will confounds me. Between him and whoever else in the world there is no possible term of comparison. He is truly a being by himself. His ideas and his sentiments, the truths which he announces, his manner of convincing, are not explained either by human organization or by the nature of things. “His birth, and the history of his life; the profundity of his doctrine, which grapples the mightiest difficulties, and which is of those difficulties the most admirable solution; his gospel, his apparition, his empire, his march across the ages and the realms—every thing is, for me, a prodigy, a mystery insoluble, which plunges me into a reverie from which I can not escape—a mystery which is there before my eyes—a mystery which I can neither deny nor explain!"
>>540150852>>540150710thanks for posting propaganda that is over 200 years old. That must mean you are and old fag
>>540150710>>540150852Maybe instead of sucking a Jew's mutilated dick, he should have focused on actually winning his wars instead of constantly losing on multiple fronts and ending up as a failure being exiled to a secluded island in the Atlantic Ocean.
>>540150852“In fact, the sciences and philosophy avail nothing for salvation; and Jesus came into the world to reveal the mysteries of heaven and the laws of the spirit. Also, he has nothing to do but with the soul, and to that alone he brings his gospel. The soul is sufficient for him, as he is sufficient for the soul. Before him the soul was nothing. Matter and time were the masters of the world. At his voice every thing returns to order. Science and philosophy become secondary. The soul has reconquered its sovereignty. All the scholastic scaffolding falls, as an edifice ruined, before one single word—Faith."“What a master, and what a word, which can effect such a revolution! With what authority does he teach men to pray! He imposes his belief. And no one, thus far, has been able to contradict him; first, because the gospel contains the purest morality, and also because the doctrine which it contains of obscurity, is only the proclamation and the truth of that which exists where no eye can see, and no reason can penetrate. Who is the insensate who will say No to the intrepid voyager who recounts the marvels of the icy peaks which he alone has had the boldness to visit? Christ is that bold voyager. One can doubtless remain incredulous. But no one can venture to say, 'It is not so.' "
>>540150710CHRISTIANITY IS FOR SLAVES CUNT
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>>540150710I ain't reading all that but BASED
>>540150997“Moreover, consult the philosophers upon those mysterious questions which relate to the essence of man, and the essence of religion. What is their response? Where is the man of good sense who has ever learned any thing from the system of metaphysics, ancient or modern, which is not truly a vain and pompous ideology, without any connection with our domestic life, with our passions. Unquestionably with skill in thinking one can seize the key of the philosophy of Socrates and Plato. But to do this it is necessary to be a metaphysician and moreover, with years of study, one must possess special aptitude. But good sense alone, the heart, an honest spirit, are sufficient to comprehend Christianity. The Christian religion is neither ideology nor metaphysics, but a practical rule, which directs the actions of man, corrects him, counsels him, and assists him in all his conduct. The Bible contains a complete series of facts and of historical men, to explain time and eternity, such as no other religion has to offer.The more I consider the gospel, the more I am assured that there is nothing there which is not beyond the march of events, and above the human mind. Even the impious themselves have never dared to deny the sublimity of the gospel, which inspires them with a sort of compulsory veneration. What happiness that book procures for those who believe it! What marvels those admire there who reflect upon it! “All the words there are imbedded and joined one upon another, like the stones of an edifice. The spirit which binds these words together is a divine cement, which now reveals the sense, and again vails it from the mind. Each phrase has a sense complete, which traces the perfection of unity and the profundity of the whole. Book unique, where the mind finds a moral beauty before unknown, and an idea of the Supreme superior even to that which creation suggests. Who, but God, could produce that type, that idea of perfection, equally exclusive and original?"
>>540151136“It is not a day, nor a battle which has decided it. Is it the lifetime of a man? No! It is a war, a long combat of three hundred years, commenced by the apostles and continued by their successors and by succeeding generations of Christians. In this conflict all the kings and all the forces of the earth were arrayed on one side. Upon the other I see no army, but a mysterious energy; individuals scattered here and there, in all parts of the globe, having no other rallying sign than a common faith in the mysteries of the cross.“What a mysterious symbol! The instrument of the punishment of the Man-God. His disciples were armed with it. ‘The Christ,’ ‘they said, ‘God has died for the salvation of men.’ What a strife, what a tempest these simple words have raised around the humble standard of the punishment of the Man-God! On the one side, we see rage and all the furies of hatred and violence. On the other, there is gentleness, moral courage, infinite resignation. For three hundred years spirit struggled against the brutality of sense, conscience against despotism, the soul against the body, virtue against all the vices. The blood of Christians flowed in torrents. They died kissing the hand which slew them. The soul alone protested, while the body surrendered itself to all tortures. Every where Christians fell, and every where they triumphed."Just in case you forgot this was Napoleon Bonaparte the Emperor of the French talking,“You speak of Caesar, of Alexander; of their conquests, and of the enthusiasm which they enkindled in the hearts of their soldiers. But can you conceive of a dead man making conquests, with an army faithful and entirely devoted to his memory. My armies have forgotten me, even while living, as the Carthaginian army forgot Hannibal, such is our power! A single battle lost crushes us, and adversity scatters our friends."
>>540151305“Can you conceive of Caesar as the eternal emperor of the Roman senate, and from the depths of his mausoleum governing the empire, watching over the destinies of Rome? Such is the history of the invasion and conquest of the world by Christianity. Such is the power of the God of the Christians; and such is the perpetual miracle of the progress of the faith and of the government of His church. Nations pass away, thrones crumble, but the church remains. What is then the power which has protected this church, thus assailed by the furious billows of rage and the hostility of ages? Whose is the arm which, for eighteen hundred years, has protected the church from so many storms which have threatened to engulf it? “Alexander, Caesar, Charlemagne, and myself founded empires. But upon what did we rest the creations of our genius? Upon force. Jesus Christ alone founded his empire upon love; and at this hour millions of men would die for him."
>>540151422“It is true that Christ proposes to our faith a series of mysteries. He commands, with authority, that we should believe them, giving no other reason than those tremendous words, ‘I am God.’ He declares it. What an abyss he creates, by that declaration, between himself and all the fabricators of religion. What audacity, what sacrilege, what blasphemy, if it were not true! I say more; the universal triumph of an affirmation of that kind, if the triumph were not really that of God himself, would be a plausible excuse, and the proof of atheism.“Moreover, in propounding mysteries Christ is harmonious with nature, which is profoundly mysterious. From whence do I come? Whither do I go? Who am I? Human life is a mystery in its origin, its organization, and its end. In man and out of man, in nature, every thing is mysterious. And can one wish that religion should not be mysterious? The creation and the destiny of the world are an unfathomable abyss, as also is the creation and the destiny of each individual. Christianity at least does not evade these great questions. It meets them boldly."
>FUCK YOU, I cannot afford groceries
>>540151503“The gospel possesses a secret virtue, a mysterious efficacy, a warmth which penetrates and soothes the heart. One finds, in meditating upon it, that which one experiences in contemplating the heavens. The gospel is not a book; it is a living being, with an action, a power, which invades every thing which opposes its extension. Behold it upon this table, this book surpassing all others (here the Emperor deferentially placed his hand upon it); I never omit to read it, and every day with the same pleasure. “Nowhere is to be found such a series of beautiful ideas, admirable moral maxims, which pass before us like the battalions of a celestial army, and which produce in our soul the same emotion which one experiences in contemplating the infinite expanse of the skies, resplendent in a summer's night, with all the brilliance of the stars. Not only is our mind absorbed, it is controlled, and the soul can never go astray with this book for its guide. Once master of our spirit, the faithful gospel loves us. God even is our friend, our father, and truly our God. The mother has no greater care for the infant whom she nurses. “What a proof of the divinity of Christ! With an empire so absolute, he has but one single end, the spiritual melioration of individuals, the purity of conscience, the union to that which is true, the holiness of the soul."
>>540151591"He lights up the flame of a love which consumes self-love, which prevails over every other love. The founders of other religious never conceived of this mystical love, which is the essence of Christianity, and is beautifully called charity. In every attempt to effect this thing, namely, to mate himself beloved, man deeply feels his own impotence. So that Christ's greatest miracle undoubtedly is, the reign of charity. “I have so inspired multitudes that they would die for me. God forbid that I should form any comparison between the enthusiasm of the soldier and Christian charity, which are are as unlike as their cause."
>>540150710So Napoleon came up with the genius idea to give civil rights to the people who killed his God?
>>540151709“But, after all, my presence was necessary; the lightning of my eye, my voice, a word from me ; then the sacred fire was kindled in their hearts. I do indeed possess the secret of this magical power, which lifts the soul, but I could never impart it to any one. None of my generals ever learnt it from me. Nor have I the means of perpetuating my name and love for me, in the hearts of men, and to effect these things without physical means. “Now that I am at St. Helena [in exile after his defeat] - now that I am alone chained upon this rock, who fights and wins empires for me? Who are the courtiers of my misfortune? Who thinks of me? Who makes efforts for me in Europe? Where are my friends? Yes, two or three, whom your fidelity immortalizes, you share, you console my exile."
>>540151807“Such is the fate of great men! So it was with Caesar and Alexander. And I, too, am forgotten. And the name of a conqueror and an emperor is a college theme! Our exploits are tasks given to pupils by their tutor, who sit in judgment upon us, awarding us censure or praise. And mark what is soon to become of me; "I die before my time; and my dead body, too must return to the earth, to become food for worms. Behold the destiny, near at hand, of him who has been called the great Napoleon. What an abyss between my deep misery and the eternal reign of Christ, which is proclaimed, loved, adored, and which is extending over all the earth."For a moment the Emperor was silent. As General Bertrand made no reply, he solemnly added, “If you do not perceive that Jesus Christ is God, very well, then I did wrong to make you a general.”
>>540150710>I read it in a book that means it's true This is like saying TV is true. Jesus was just a man. That's the entire point of the damn story.
>>540150966>>540150989>>540152229you got filtered, by fried dopamine receptor zoomer attention span
>>540152812All I see is spamming butthurt jew-worshipping christcucks.
>>540152880I am going to be honest with you, it is absolutely astonishing you are still in this thread an hour later.
>>540152880Reminder no group lines up with jews more on every vote than atheists and it's not even a close race.Atheists vote in lockstep with jews excepting in cases where they're even MORE left and pro degeneracy.
>>540153017Don't worry, I'm always down to free cuckolds from the Jewish cultural-spiritual-philosophical grip. It makes me sick to see that Heeb hand wrapped firmly around your neck. You are a man, not a dog or a puppet, act like it.>>540153055Reminder that before atheists have ever existed in large numbers, Christianity used state violence and suppression to remove all native European-Greco-Roman faiths, myths, beliefs, and philosophy in favor of Christianity and the Jews. The two untouched religions, after which, Jews emerged as the priestly and economic caste of the region. Maybe you should look at yourself first, and find that bit of irony?
>>540153270If you are trying to compete with Christianity for masculine calls to action, you will be disappointed to learn you will lose catastrophically.
>>540153388>masculine calls to actionIs that what you call serving your financial-priestly masters, like the dog that you are?
Thank you for sharing that anon, it was beautiful.L’Empereur est vivant en Christ.
>>540150710And yet instead of marching his army on the Muslim infidels of Constantinople and kicking the Turks back to Central Asia, he instead marched against Christian’s across Europe all the way to Moscow. Total fucking waste.
>>540153684It's what I call your weak attempt to act performatively macho.
>>540154146I don't need to act macho. I'm not an insecure man desperately clinging onto fantasy tales about other alpha males receiving a special status from God and being a super special lineage whom everyone else bows down to.
>>540154534If you're not insecure, then why are you still here?
>>540154576>Don't worry, I'm always down to free cuckolds from the Jewish cultural-spiritual-philosophical grip. It makes me sick to see that Heeb hand wrapped firmly around your neck. You are a man, not a dog or a puppet, act like it.I'm here to philosophically free a captured mind and remove the semite-spell.
>>540153837well he wasn't Christian yet. he had to be humbled first. He thought he was some god on earth receiving "omens of destiny". Only after losing everything did he realize how deluded and vain he was.
>>540154757You're doing a great job
>>540154789It's tough to help cultists, but a worthwhile endeavor.
>>540154819genuinely you are, with every bump
>>540154929I'm not worried about bumping because no one is reading your copypasta paragraph spam lol. Have another!
>>540154985They do, I see it. So thank you for your service.
>>540155026>They do, I see it. Is it another vision that only appears in your mind?
>>540155076cope I guess, it matters not to me
>>540155123What am I supposed to be coping with? You ever notice the lack of logical consistencies in your statements?
>>540155168I try not to think about myself, you should try it
>>540155225The ability to self-reflect and analyze your thoughts and actions is pretty critical to cognition and reasoning. You should try those things sometimes instead of transplanting a foreign philosophy onto your brain that stops said cognition and reasoning.
>>540155315oh I do that all the time. I meant vanity, being the root of insecurity.
>>540155358I'm sure your smugness about being "the right religion" and "only path to salvation" and "special lineage that god chose" absolutely has no hints of vanity in it. Nope, none at all.
>>540155560This idea of there being a "true church" is based on three points. 1. The truth is not subjective. As for other faiths, Jesus Christ our God makes statements which makes them incompatible and irreconcilable with Christianity, especially when it comes to the order of the universe. Two given people in different "christianities" who believe different things cannot both be representing the truth, in fullness. It has to be in fullness because 2. the Holy Spirit leads us into "all truth". God is not going to intentionally teach falsehood. So if God is not in charge of those other groups, it follows that they are leading themselves astray (or worse yet, being led astray by malicious spiritual forces). Point 3. Jesus made us promises that He will be with us to the end of the age, and also that the gates of hell would not prevail against His Church. So there was in fact a true Church at some point in time, and Jesus never stopped guiding it, so there must be a true Church to this day. We believe that this is the Orthodox Church, the faith of the early Christians unchanged. Simply making the claim that a true church exists, or rather that THE truth exists, is not arrogance or pride. Denial of this is denial that the truth exists.
>>540155560you pinpoint it like a sharpshooter anonthe most devote christian reek of narcissism
>>540155764fortunately this is for you, if you want to interact with it earnestly.>>540155763
>>540150710Seems like something a mutt would type.
>>540155763>He will be with us>us>We believe that this is the>WeSo you use the group in the argument but when members of the group make mistakes the individual is to blame but not the group.In my experience most devote Christians are textbook narcissists. Or at least deep faith is indistinguishable from narcissism. Is not even an argument if god is real or not, just that the sheep are full of shit.
>>540155937way to not interact with my point at all.
>>540156006I interacted with your point but you ignore mine.And your dribble is not even consistent.> Point 3. Jesus made us promises that He will be with us to the end of the age, and also that the gates of hell would not prevail against His Church. So there was in fact a true Church at some point in time, and Jesus never stopped guiding it, so there must be a true Church to this day.>So there was in fact a true Church at some point in time, and Jesus never stopped guiding it, so there must be a true Church to this day.> so there must be a true Church to this day.That is an absolute logical leap.The church could simply don't exist yet.Just because he promised he will be with his church doesn't mean that the church exist now.
>>540155763>This idea of there being a "true church" is based on three points. 1. The truth is not subjective.Before we get to the rest of your schizophrenic paragraph rambling, we should focus on this topic specifically. Christians often go on and on rambling about "truth" and how they are the "truth".The rather unfortunate point for you here, is that you precisely struggle with PROVING to be the truth. How is it that an entire religion oriented around "truth" can never offer any truth to man? How is it that it doesn't even have one bit of substantial evidence to prove anything? Truth requires proof. Truth requires some kind of objective evidence that points towards a very high probability of it being correct. You have nothing. You have nothing to offer to any cognitive or reasoning system that expects evidence alongside claims. Your "truth" is about as valid as the words of a screaming hobo on the street. How do you expect anyone to take you seriously when you fail the most important test?
>>540156151>I interacted with your point but you ignore mine.That's not how it works bro. You can't just ignore what I presented and say something completely off topic.>Just because he promised he will be with his church doesn't mean that the church exist now.Yes it does, because Jesus Christ is the Uncreated and Omnipotent God outside of time and space, who is the pinnacle of all virtue and truth.
>>540151591>>540154146>>540154576>>540154929>>540155225saved images bro>>540152109this is amazing, its such a paradox for atheists
>>540156233>How is it that an entire religion oriented around "truth" can never offer any truth to man?maybe you should have read Napoleon above, he actually made a pretty serious exposition of it.
>>540150710Based Bonaparte. That's an excellent way of saying it. I maintain that there is no possible way to contrive or conjure up the teachings of Jesus. No such yogi or guru or adept or genius could form such teaching by wit or whatever there is of human inspiration. Jesus is God and of God The Father. He in definitely Divine.
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>>540156433>maybe you should read these particular ramblings of a man, watch this 2 hour long youtube video, or another vague source that offers nothing except wasting your timeA classic Christian technique. Do you really think I'm new to this? Lol.But anyway, it's always the same. A charlatan people claiming truth, never providing evidence, objectivity, or support for said truth. Sickening really. Truth is indeed often simple, and evidence based.
>>540156545>these particular ramblings of a manYou mean Napoleon Bonaparte.You can't allude to being educated here.
>>540156604Why do Christians have such a powerful tendency to appeal to authority? Napoleon wasn't omnipotent or omniscient. Many great and competent people have been wrong, even within their own topics. Did you know that Tesla rejected electrons, and relativity? Yet you're expecting to use the words of Napoleon to prove the truth of a religion from 2,000 thousand years ago.None of it really makes sense, until you realize the Christian world view is primarily rooted in EMOTIONS and FEELINGS over anything based in reality.
>>540150710Why am I supposed to give a shit tho dog
>>540156815You have nothing valuable to say
>>540156919>anon puts forward powerful argument talking directly about the conversation and point>scramble mid debate"NANAANANAN I CANT HEAR YOU NANANAN"Good one!
>>540156981This was not a debate, and you made a fool of yourself. People can follow along plainly. Not only that, you bumped the thread until even more people were able to see it and gain value from it. If you are getting paid to do this, you should be fired.
>>540156233>we should focus on this topic specifically. Christians often go on and on rambling about "truth" and how they are the "truth".>The rather unfortunate point for you here, is that you precisely struggle with PROVING to be the truth. How is it that an entire religion oriented around "truth" can never offer any truth to man? How is it that it doesn't even have one bit of substantial evidence to prove anything? Truth requires proof. Truth requires some kind of objective evidence that points towards a very high probability of it being correct.thats some enthusiastic enthusiasm for truth there. keep praying for truth, seek and ye shall find, knock and the way will be opened. if you ask your father for a fish he will not give you a snake
>>540157049>debate? there was no debate>i WON! I am the winner! Christianity is true! No proof or evidence needed, it's just true. I said so, it's the truth! You're a loser and everyone is now converting to Christianity because of me, as I'm winner and the truth.As an observational note, religious people are not particularly different from trannies. Once you detach your internal model from reality, all kinds of delusions are possible.
>>540157151The greentext sperging has begun. My work here is done.Christ is risen
>>540150710What an amazing man he was.
>>540150852Wowsa! I feel the exact same way. The exact same eay. I honestly never even knew he was a Christian. I thought he was a diest of some sort. Though I didn't think it possible, I somehow now respect him even more. Truly the greatest man of the modern era. And what an eloquent, erudite and expressive mind!
>>540157213Yep, yep. You have won, your work is done.That's anon for us, he just can't lose!
>>540150997I'm blown away by Napoleons testimony. Thank you so much for posting these. I'm screenshotting all of them.
>>540157414I posted the complete text in the beginning as a pdf too
>>540156815>you're expecting to use the words of Napoleon to proveno, its a plausibility argument, same as when Jesus told the guy to pick up his blanket and go as a plausibility argument for Jesus having the authority to forgive sins. it's also an appeal to authority, like when Jesus said "today these words are fulfilled" about the Bible passage He read
>>540157348well he wasn't a christian all his life during his rule and campaigns. the lesson is that he only could see God and become a Christian when he was humbled and lost everything.
>>540150852This is unironically how I feel about Jesus. It would be nice to be a retard atheist with no sense of grounding, like an animal, but Jesus is a stumbling block to that peaceful and savage ignorance.
>>540157456Why do we need to rely on the plausibility argument of a broken man that lived over 1600 years after the events of the core text? Shouldn't there be greater core proofs, evidence, or objectivity involved? The reality here is that Christianity cannot offer anything. It's always the same low quality pseudo-philosophic dribble. Want an interesting comparison? Go look up how many times devout Christians have predicted the end times, return of Jesus, and the prophecy. We're not talking about mere village buffoons here (just to appeal to your taste of authority), but actual important figures. They were wrong every time. No matter how much you appeal to beautifully worded scripts, emotions, feelings, and your personal beliefs - none of that will change the underlying nature/structure of reality and what it is. I wonder how long people will keep looking at the beautiful illusion instead of facing reality.
>>540157517nebuCHADnezzar needed 7 years of solitude to get saved, after he did the Lord's work the Lord gave him that grace
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>>540157807Fr Josiah Trenham said in a lecture that Napoleon is just Nebuchadnezzar II
>>540157726>This is unironically how I feel about Jesus. It would be nice to be a retard atheist with no sense of grounding, like an animal, but Jesus is a stumbling block to that peaceful and savage ignorance.How did the Greek, Roman, Egyptian, Chinese, etc all construct civilized high-functioning societies years before Jesus ever existed? Are you saying animals can construct the Parthenon or the Great Pyramids?
>>540151136I quite literally could not have said it better myself. That man was a True Genius...and of the very highest caliber.
>>540157792>Go look up how many times devout Christians have predicted the end times, return of Jesus, and the prophecy. We're not talking about mere village buffoons here (just to appeal to your taste of authority), but actual important figures. They were wrong every time.as the Lord said> But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. 37But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 40Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 41Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.> 42Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. 43But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. 44Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
>>540157898Notice how conveniently you sidestepped the main point.
>>540151305Amen.
>>540151807The world needs another one of those.
>>540158052this one makes me giggle
>>540157877All of those groups except the Chinese converted to Christianity as soon as they were able. The Chinese did not simply because of the distance. None of these groups conquered the world, they conquered their local domain. What have your demonic gods done for civilization other than literally shitting up the street, pajeet?
>>540151807What a gifted individual. Truly incredible. I've always been in awe of him.
>>540157933ok trying again>>540157792> (1) why take a plausibility argument from one of the greatest statesmen of all time claiming that the Jesus story is different from other stories> (2) after all, as Jesus said, no one knows when Jesus will return, so idiots making predictions are wrong regardless of rankok, so lets talk about what Jesus Himself said> this is the work of God, to believe on Him whom He hath sent
>>540151904>If you do not perceive that Jesus Christ is God, very well, then I did wrong to make you a generalNone of you are as based as Napoleon Bonaparte.
>>540153270Daily reminder: All antichrist posters and all posters sowing Christian division are poos and Jews. They are truly buttmad about what's about to happen.
>>540150710Why is christcuckery being pushed so hard right now?Are kikes getting nervous that young men aren't fervent israel supporters like their parents?
>>540158198>All of those groups except the Chinese converted to Christianity as soon as they were able.Not really lol. It took over 500 years for Christianity to corrupt its way into the Roman world to the point where they used systemic government violence and repression to ban everyone else.>The Chinese did not simply because of the distance.No, it's because Jews can't infiltrate Chinkbots as easily. >None of these groups conquered the world, they conquered their local domain.Enlightenment and merchant-capitalism conquered the world, not Christianity.>What have your demonic gods done for civilization other than literally shitting up the street, pajeet?You mean aside from the basis of philosophy belonging to the Greeks, civics and government belonging to the Romans, Egypt being the early carrier of mathematics, geometry, astronomy, optics, science? Yeah, nothing haha.
>>540158412>over 500 years for Christianity to corrupt its way into the Roman worldmaybe ask deepseek who was saint helena and how she got saved some time
>>540150710>Superficial minds see a resemblance between Christ and the founders of empires and the gods of other religions.So true. Overconfidence with arrogance without any understanding or work put in.
>>540150710Just a hint; jesus hates the french.He literally proved a small girl had more courage than any frenchman.You've destroyed yourselves, a proud people, turned black, wholly burnt offering to satan.What is france? A collection of tribes constantly.invaded and raped by thode stronger than it.Your leader gets beaten up by geriatric old women.You are the slaves of jews.And I spit on you. You broke gods laws.
>>540158266Again, you have entirely missed the point. The point is that claims coming from "great" individuals do not automatically carry hard evidence or sufficient proof to actually be real. If anything, we have a good sample size of exactly that happening, and them being wrong. Your little brain went into overdrive about endtime predictions / return of jesus - this wasn't the point. We can easily apply it to other matters.>>540158335Daily reminder that there were plenty of historical White men that did not believe in Jesus, and doubted the Christian biblical world view / model because they deemed it superstitious, lacking evidence, and ultimately creating authoritarian models where the central church and doctrine had far too much control over man's thinking. You can keep insulting me as a Jew or a Jeet, but remember Jews and Jeets are also the same kinds of superstitious retards and they were never capable of things like the enlightenment or scientific revolution or an empirical world view.
>>540158455I'm sure this will override systematic Christian state repression of other beliefs, philosophies, and local mythologies. Why do you need to spread the lie that everyone willingly converted as soon as they could? This is just blatantly historical fiction.
Why do whites worship and die for feminine chud generals?
>>540158654ok, so, i did summarize your argument correctly in >>540158266 . so my response is still, ok, lets talk about the things Jesus said directly> Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. 35And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever. 36If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
>>540153724Indeed. That was beautiful and inspiring. The world needs another Napoleon while it waits on Jesus.
>>540158786Why are you quoting something that has nothing to do with evidence, objective proof, or the concept of truth?
>>540158412>jeet taking credit for Greek philosophy
>>540150710I thought that painting was chris chan for a second.
>>540155315You pitiable thing you. What's it like not having a real human soul? Do you just look at life as satisfying one appetite after the next and keeping score? Lol. Low vibrational poos are hilarious.
>>540158694constantine legalized Christianity in 313 anno Domini, 300 not 500 years. by 500 anno Domini, rome has fallen, but the empire of constantinople would last another 1000 years. after recieving the history leson, this is where you speculate that the reason rome fell was enervating Christianization
>>540152880>christcucksI shouldn't tell you this saaaar but this word is the fastest way to make people ignore you.
>>540155763Not necessarily. We are clearly in the post millennial era. The end of the age, the age when Christ came to die for our sins, was the era prior to that.
>>540156006I do need to work on my anger.
>>540156151The millennial reign already came and went. We're in Satans Little Season right now. An age of deception.
>>540158903>>540158959>>540159006This is actually hilarious. Whenever you fucks are threatened in debate, you immediately resort to attacking an imaginary identity instead of the actual argument. It must be very convenient to paint and slander anyone that disagrees with your view into a pajeet. And it's even funnier, considering the opposition to the religious superstitious world view exactly arose from Western WHITE societies - exactly rooted in Enlightenment, Empiricism, natural philosophy and sciences from antiquity.The gullible golem horde of morons with pitchforks that try to submit any mind that deviates from their little cult.>>540158966The process of subjugating others and implementing Christianity on a systematic scale continued well beyond it. And yes, naturally removing local culture and belief in favor of foreign one contributed to the fragmentation and eventual fall.
>>540157213Jesus is King of Kings, Lord of Lords.
>>540157455I've saved it all. It's all so magnificent. What a stirring defense and what voluptuous praise for the Son of God. That was some truly amazing stuff. I felt my mind leap instantly to life. Literally like flipping on a light switch. It happens every time I encounter genius in one form or another.
>>540158891that truthfulness is part of justice https://www.newadvent.org/summa/3109.htmthat the intellectual virtues are wisdom science and understanding https://www.newadvent.org/summa/2057.htmthe parts of prudence https://www.newadvent.org/summa/3049.htm
>>540157517That makes sense. I've read a lot about him, including his autography, and I never knew this about him. The fact that he would come to Christ and kneel before Him makes perfect sense as well. And yes, humility is, I believe, prerequisite salvation. That doesn't necessarily mean you have to be humbled to attain humility, but it usually does.
>>540157726Well said, brother.
>>540159372Christians will do everything, including arguing about the nature of truth, except provide you with evidence or proof that support their biblical model. I refer you to this, for more purposeless time-wasting topics that ultimately contribute to nothing:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_many_angels_can_dance_on_the_head_of_a_pin
>>540157792Lol. You make all this broad and sweeping statements with no relation to the truth and then develop from them ideas further afield than those. It's like my saying >Human beings generally are not born with legs. It is therefore impossible for them to walk around, much less run. All anti-Jesus posters are poos or Jews.
>>540157807Yeah, God turned him into a wild animal. Almost sounds like a werewolf or something the way Daniel The Prophet describes it. Except it seems he ate the grass of the field.
>>540159205>removing local culture and belief in favor of foreign one contributed to the fragmentation...which led to the Christian humanists wewuzzing the greeks and romans including constant allusions to the mythology. sadly, greek and latin are no longer taught in high school and no one even reads the odyssey in english. naturally, Christians reading ancient poetry also read the letter to young men by basil the schoolmate of julian the apostate
>>540159531>You make all this broad and sweeping statements with no relation to the truthCan you please present these?>It's like my saying>Human beings generally are not born with legs.Please show me where I made such a factually incorrect statement?I can't tell if you are projecting here, or just legitimately retarded.
>>540159522>arguing about the nature of truth>purposeless time-wastinginteresting>>540156233what do you think about arguing about the nature of truth being purposeless time wasting
>>540158412None of us are going to be sad if you or any of you don't come to Christ. I promise. We will try and do our best to control our grief.
>>540158654None of them were geniuses. So I don't care what they think. I only pay attention to genius.
>>540159205I'm not threatened at all. I look down on you.
>>540159631K. This has nothing to do with the fact that Christianity converted most of its followers via state force and submission. Love how you keep going off topic.>>540159701We don't need 9,000,000,000 essays from Aquinas and co on the nature of truth. Almost everyone can understand the practical implication, application, and the meaning of the word. At this point, evidence, empirical observation, and proof of claims has infinitely more value than arguing a topic that has been argued forever. Just admit that you have nothing, and Christianity has nothing beyond surface fantasy claims. I know it, everyone knows. it.Or continue to dump articles debating how many angels can dance on a tip ;), in your illusionary glory.
>>540159075Bingo, the only person in this thread besides me who knows WHEN we are in the Bible.
>>540159631>wewuzzingThis word alone was worth clicking on this thread. Kek
>>540150989The Jews have two propaganda goals. The first is to make you hate yourself and your ancestors and everything they valued. The second is to endlessly humiliate you.Christianity is the religion Jews hate the most, the religion of your ancestors, and the Jews have poisoned your mind against it. Worse yet, you have become the missionary of the Jew. Every word from your mouth exposes the Jewish cock that raped your mind. Be silent. At least then you won't be serving the Jews.
>>540159909>converted most of its followers via state force and submission.ALL religions that ever existed did this at one point or another. Even Buddhism.
>>540159909>Christianity converted most of its followers via state forcebut Christianity survived from 100 to 300 despite state persecution>>540159909> just be a good personcf> Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38This is the first and great commandment. 39And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
>>540160218Kikes recoil in terror if you flash the gospel of Matthew to them. I’ve done it before.
>>540160218>Christianity is the religion Jews hate the most, the religion of your ancestorsI'm not from the Levant, and my genetic line doesn't come from Ur and the Levant. How can it be the religion of my ancestors? Furthermore, Jews owe their priestly-financier existence entirely to Christianity. Prior to Christianity elevating Jews into such power and prominence, they were a small ethno-religious tribe in the Levant being abused by all the global powers and empires (Pharaonic Egypt, Rome, Babylon). It is precisely YOU who gave them such dominance.>Worse yet, you have become the missionary of the Jew.The irony of this is hilarious lost you. You, who preach a JEWISH culture, a JEWISH world view, a JEWISH deity, a JEWISH history. I can also guarantee that your name is Jewish, something like John, Joshua, or Daniel.>Be silent. At least then you won't be serving the Jews.Take your own advice retard. You are so blind you can't even tell who rules you.
>>540150710christians only become more annoying >>540159993
>>540160255Wait until he finds out that that’s what ALL governments do, enforce behavior to unite people under a common myth. Guess what? If you take 100 men at random from all over the Earth, and put them on an Island. They will form, they will storm. And after a time and some dead, a new myth will unite the survivors. Who will enforce this myth because they understand that it is what keeps them alive.
>>540160255Sure. But the point is that it goes against the initial claim that "durr everyone in the Greco-Roman world peacefully converted to Christianity as soon as they could, it was just sooo truthful hehe".>>540160259>but Christianity survived from 100 to 300 despite state persecutionYes, some early Roman emperors undeniably suppressed Christianity. But did you know that both the state and the surrounding cultures actually gave Christians quite a bit of cultural respect? The same kind that was never shown back when the Christianized Roman system systematically prevented anyone else from worshipping local beliefs or deities or mythologies.The scale matters.
>>540160469earlier you said you didnt care what napoleon or diocletian thought, but maybe you would care about what justin and celsus thought?
IC XI NI KARest well general.
>>540160625Not really, because I don't see appeal to authority as evidence the same way your submissive mind is wired to. It's precisely where you fail, because you live in other men's thoughts rather than functional structures or the real world.
>>540150852>>540150710Its worth to note as well that in his weirdest moments, Napoleon imagined himself conquering India and the Orient and casting himself as a new Buddha, a new Guru, a new living prophet. That was within reach, because it was something he could conceive, the ultimate ego trip manifest. He never dared claimed to be a Christian prophet, however.
