Anon, it is time for you to finally learn about REAL Christianity.Jesus said He would return within one generation, yet most so-called "Christians" deny the fulfillment of this prophecy. They believe that we have been stuck in the "birth pains" (the shortest part of the prophecy) for 2000 years, that we have been in the End Times for 2000 years, waiting for events that Jesus said would happen in one generation.Three times, Jesus explicitly said the End Times prophecy would occur within one generation:>Truly I tell you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have happened. Matthew 24:34, Mark 13:30, Luke 21:32>Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom. Matthew 16:28, Mark 9:1, Luke 9:27>When they persecute you in one town, flee to the next. Truly I tell you, you will not reach all the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes. Matthew 10:23
Remarkably, approximately 40 years after Jesus made these statements (length of one Biblical generation), everything He said came to pass! Every building in Jerusalem was destroyed and the Jews were permanently kicked out. This was fulfilled in the "First Roman-Jewish War", a seven-year period of intense persecution for the church that matches the seven-year tribulation prophecy. When it says "all nations" will battle against Jerusalem, it is describing the Roman army, as it was made of all nations. The "end of the world" refers to the destruction of the Temple and the end of the Old Covenant paradigm. Jesus' Everlasting Kingdom is the permanent New Covenant reality we now find ourselves in. We, who are in Christ, are the New Jerusalem.Now, we are living in a world where every nation acknowledges we are in the year 2026 – every nation and every tongue has accepted the history recorded in the Bible. All humanity has heard and accepted the Gospel, that the Jews senselessly killed their own Messiah, a perfectly innocent man. The proof of Christianity is in the fulfillment of this prophecy. Everything Jesus said came to pass, there is simply no denying the history!
Number of the Beast and Mark of the BeastAlso fufilled!
>>540150876Yes, Paul was the antichrist. Paul's mission was from Rome and he wanted to make sure Christians didn't convert a bunch of Jews. He was making sure there was a line drawn between Christians and Jews.
>>540150876You did this last time, but this Preterism is remarkably gay.If Jesus already came back but was so limp dicked that we didn’t even notice, what the hell is the point of it all?Are we still going to heaven even if Jesus fumble fucked the Earth reclamation?
>>540151097That is retarded. It was Nero, see >>540150924>>540151206People did notice, but Rome took over the narrative and sold everyone a fake version of Christianity. Now, God is ready to do execute the next big reformation. The invention of the printing press enabled the Protestant Reformation and the invention of the internet is enabling the next one.
>>540150876Show me physical evidence of God existing and I might start giving a shit about your faggy cucked religion
>>540151345Paul derailed real Christianity. The beast is the Church itself. Fallen Christianity. Paul's version of Christianity makes Christ the false prophet.
>>540150876according to preterism/ satans little season fags, we are living in the "short time" mentioned in Rev 20:7-10 when the devil is released. also according to them its been at least 250 years since that happened. for a "short time" it sure drags on for a lot.
>>540151378Try reading the thread. Jesus said the Gospel would be preached to all nations before the end and all nations would believe. That's exactly what happened. The fulfillment of this prophecy IS the proof.>>540151447This doesn't make sense, but good try.>>540151535You're conflating a couple things. You described Partial Preterism, I lean towards Full Preterism. Not all Partial Preterists believe we are in Satan's Little Season, and of the ones that do, not all believe 1776 was the start of it. I agree with you that 250 years is too long for Satan's Little Season, especially in contrast to Jesus' Millennial (1000 year) Reign.
>>540151725>This doesn't make sense, but good try.It makes perfect sense. You all really worshiping the devil, the false Christ
>>540150876CHRISTIANITY IS FOR SLAVES
>>540150876This was fulfilled through the transfiguration of Jesus in the mountain when he took some of the disciples with him. This was just a vision.>(Matthew 16:28) Truly I say to YOU that there are some of those standing here that will not taste death at all until first they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.”6 days later...>(Matthew 17:1, 2) Six days later Jesus took Peter and James and John his brother along and brought them up into a lofty mountain by themselves. 2And he was transfigured before them, and his face shone as the sun, and his outer garments became brilliant as the light.Both Mark and Luke also linked Jesus’ comment about the Kingdom with the account of the transfiguration. (Mark 9:1-8; Luke 9:27-36) Jesus’ coming in Kingdom power was demonstrated in his transfiguration, his appearing in glory in the presence of the three apostles.Peter verifies this understanding by speaking of “the power and presence of our Lord Jesus Christ” with regard to his witnessing Jesus’ transfiguration.>(2 Peter 1:16-18) No, it was not by following artfully contrived false stories that we acquainted YOU with the power and presence of our Lord Jesus Christ, but it was by having become eyewitnesses of his magnificence. 17For he received from God the Father honor and glory, when words such as these were borne to him by the magnificent glory: “This is my son, my beloved, whom I myself have approved.” 18Yes, these words we heard borne from heaven while we were with him in the holy mountain.It was fulfilled in the mountain through the transfiguration
>>540151885No, we've been through this. The verse right before Matt 16:28 says Jesus will be coming with the angels, and will pronounce the Final Judgment. This is clearly about the Advent (Second Coming)! Regardless, you are still ignoring the other two times He said His Second Coming would occur within one generation. You are ignoring the rest of the timing statements throughout the Bible. You are in denial.
>>540151725Ugh.So does this mean we have to slip a Bible in the Sentinel Island niggers before the next big happening starts?I’m just tired of the “two moar millennia” business.
>>540151885To be clear: there were no angels or Final Judgment at the transfiguration!
>>540150895This is the lamest and most innocuous interpretation I have ever heard. We're living in the End Times NOW! REPENT!
>>540151447What's the difference
>>540152093You just don't have the Spirit. "Why do you not hear what I say? Because the truth is not in you." That is the only reason you deny Jesus' promise about returning in one generation.
>another schism of christianitythe abrahamic religions are so divisive.
>>540152138>What's the differenceJesus never said to worship him. Man deified Christ.
>>540151725>No physical evidence providedPromptly kill yourself at your earliest convenience faggot
>>540152290Wdym bro the physical evidence is your eyes working and the blood running through your veins
>>540152325So, gay sex?
>>540150876>this generation will not pass awayhe was referring to the generation that sees the signs he had just describedmatthew 24:3>And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?matthew 24:4-33>And Jesus answered and said unto them...>... (signs)>... (signs)>So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.matthew 24:34>Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.the generation that sees all these signs will not pass before the end comes
>>540152436tl;dr: two more weeks
>>540152436>the generation that sees all these signs will not pass before the end comesBoomers
>>540150876>>540150895what about the sea turning into blood and the stars falling from the sky? that didn’t happen yet
>>540152290There’s never going to be physical evidence of God because this all a huge fucking joke to him.He likes hiding and making us wonder eternally. And then when we fail to believe, off to gulag.
>>540152241>Jesus never said to worship himmatthew 14:33>Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God.john 9:38>And he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped him.matthew 28:9>And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him.
I'll admit that Preterism is a kind of interesting thought experiment, but come on now. At most, you could say that Revelation is using things like Rome and maybe even Nero for when it was written, but it doesn't mean that it was exhausted. It can mean more than one thing in the same symbol, just like there's typological readings in Ezekial and King Tyre passages actually being both historical for him and talking about Satan and his future end.
>>540150876Partial not full
So, say it's all true then.What does that mean for all of us?
>>540152509>scoffing noises2 peter 3:3-4>Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,>And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.2 peter 3:8-9>But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.>The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.its only been two days for god, and jesus will return on day three
>>540152613>Son of GodHe's a son of God, not God himself.
>>540152704why did jesus let people worship him?
>>540152693Good question. Does OP think Gog and Magog is still going to happen, or did it already happen? What the fuck do we do now lol
>>540152428The only "physical evidence" is the Bible, but I doubt that'll convince memeflag jew.>>540152436Wrong. You are also ignoring the other two times Jesus said the same. Additionally, there are many more timing statements throughout the Bible, including other "this generation" verses by Jesus, like when He told the Jews that **their particular generation** would pay the price for the blood of all the slain prophets from Abel to Zechariah. In AD 70, the destruction of the Temple and the Jews getting kicked out fulfilled it all. "Your house shall be left to you desolate".>>540152602The stars falling from the sky represents the fall of earthly rulers, namely the Pharisees. I don't know what the sea represents, I'm still figuring it out.>>540152637I am open to Partial Preterism, I think it's possible. And I do agree that there could be symbols that still apply but the main point is that the End Times prophecy DID occur within one generation. The Second Coming and the Final Judgment happened and there will not be any more comings or final judgments.>>540152693It means sin has been defeated and we are not under judgment, we have all been saved by the blood of Christ. This is in contrast to what most Christians believe, which is that you can still go to hell for eternity. It also means that everything "Christians" believe about us being in the End Times now, and the State of Israel being "God's chosen people" and part of Biblical prophecy, is complete bullshit. I believe another implication is that we are called to spread this message to others, "the harvest is plenty but the workers are few" and we are due for another massive schism.
>>540152699>and jesus will return on day threesays who?
>>540152613>proskuneó is worship Come on bro that's just weak
>>540153132are you retarded?revelation 19:10>And I fell at his feet to worship (proskuneó) him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship (proskuneó) God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.>>540153146it reflects the resurrection where jesus was dead for two days and rose on the start of the third dayalso, the 7000 years of creation theory, where there would be 2000 years from adam to moses, 2000 years from moses to jesus first coming, and 2000 years from 1st jesus to 2nd jesus, thus making 6000 yearsthe god rests the 7th day, ie the millennial kingdom
>>540153132>Wrong. You are also ignoring the other two times Jesus said the same.why wasnt this a big deal in the early church then?were they just all wrong?why didnt the disciples correct their students?
>>540153386>>540153132>are you retarded?whoops, was meant for >>540153158
>>540153386You're the retarded one. Was Abraham worshipping the Hittites? Same word different translation.
>>540150876Based thread. Imagine being one of the 10 year old kids who listened to Jesus preach. Chances are, you lived or your children did, to see the apocalyptic destruction of the second temple and society there. It was absolutely an apocalypse for them.
>>540152733He didn't. We don't know what he said, but Jesus never said he was God.
>>540153451Here's Jacob doing proskuneó before Esau. Your cope now?
>>540150876>REAL ChristianityI see no discussion of Mormonism in here though?
>>540153496it means to bend the knee or kiss the handthe context is important, the verses i cited are clearly speaking of worship in the religious sense where as the verse you cited is clearly speaking of submission in a cultural sense anyways, lets say you are right, whats the true greek word for worship and which verses in the new testament use it?
>>540151206>we didn’t even noticeYou are missing this key period in time: Satan's Little Season. I don't agree with Preterest Bro on full preterism. You cannot convince me that the best an all powerful God can do with a new Heaven and a new Earth is the current world we live in now. It makes more sense that we are in the Little Season of deception. We even see the stirring of the armies of Magog in these third world invasions into the West. That means we are approaching a global siege by these invaders, followed by fire from heaven (solar flare? Nuke?)After 1000 years of Jesus and the Saints ruling while Satan was bound in the pit, Satan was released and granted authority to deceive the world. Satan would obviously want to hide the 1000 years of the greatest prosperity known to mankind. As such, history was rewritten, those who would never deny what they saw with their own eyes were called insane and placed in mental asylums to be tortured, lobotomized, and killed. Instead of 1000 years of prosperity, we have, in our official history, 1000 years in the Dark Ages. And it is possible that hundreds of years have been manufactured and placed into our history books. If you have ever fallen down the Tartaria rabbit hole, you know that great stone building have been found all over. It is possible that Tartaria was part of the millenial kingdom.
>>540153608see >>540153612its where we get the word "prostrate" from context is key
>>540152613Amen>>540153158>>540153607Lol there is a ton of evidence that Jesus was God in the flesh. I don't want to make this thread about that, though.>>540153424I believe the early church definitely knew that Jesus returned in AD 70. Jesus told them to run for the hills of Judea when they saw the signs He spoke of. The Jews that believed in Christ would've fled before the final siege on Jerusalem.>>5401535441000% !!
>>540153664>I believe the early church definitely knew that Jesus returned in AD 70why didnt they write that down?
>>540153386>it reflects the resurrection where jesus was dead for two days and rose on the start of the third dayso that's your interpretation, not the word of "god".it's a shame the abrahamic god couldn't be more concise, the religion probably wouldn't be as divided as it is.
>>540153664>Lol there is a ton of evidence that Jesus was God in the flesh. I don't want to make this thread about that, though.There really isn't. There's more evidence that the Church deified him.
>>540153612latreuōJust as it's used in Matthew 4:10. Easy. Next cope?
>>540153721a few of the early church fathers held to the 6000 years of creation idea, its not an opinion i made up
>>540153760matthew 4:10>Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.lol, lmaoit literally has proskuneó in the same lineservice and worship, retard
>>540153664>Lol there is a ton of evidence that Jesus was God in the fleshThen why didn't he just say: I am god. Solves everything. If you need to figure out like a puzzle whether someone is god or not you shouldn't have to play these dumb games. God isn't some vagina that has you keep guessing, He's clear cut like this:I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.
>>540150895> All humanity has heard and accepted the GospelNot the north sentineles. now make haste Christian soldier those on north sentinel island need the gospel!
>>540153855>worshipSo Abraham worshipped the Hittites then.
>>540153882he bent the knee, ie prostrated himself in context he did not worship them, which is why no english translation (credible) says worship there
>>540153938Exactly and the disciples bent the knee. Only Christian force the worship translation in where jesus does it. Why should we accept it wasn't just reverence?
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>>540153132>It means sin has been defeated and we are not under judgment, we have all been saved by the blood of Christ. This is in contrast to what most Christians believeThat's obviously not true. You need a psych ward visit
>>540153979why did the angel in rev 19 tell john not to proskuneó to him but only to godrevelation 19:10>And I fell at his feet to worship (proskuneó) him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship (proskuneó) God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
>>540153629My only issue with this is that 250 years (minimum) is too long for a "short" season, but I am open to this interpretation. I also believe in Tartaria (or whoever built these buildings all around the world) and that they've altered the timeline by inserting years. I agree it could be a cover-up of the Millennial Reign but right now, I lean towards Full Preterism.>>540153698It would've been self-evident at the time. It wasn't until Rome took over and changed the narrative that people began to be deceived about it.>>540153793But the Bible says no one knew the day or the hour, not even the angels, nor the Son. This would mean we know the exact time it's going to happen. Jesus said He'd return before His disciples even finish going through the towns of Judea. The timing statements are all over the NT.>>540153872That's not true. Jesus was asked why He always spoke in parables and He said it was because He didn't want everyone to understand, only those with ears to hear and eyes to see.
>>540154187>This would mean we know the exact time it's going to happenfirst, we dont know the date of the 6000th yearit could be 2027, 2030, 2032, or 2034no one can say for sure which year jesus resurrected second, no one knows the day or hour of the feast of trumpets
>>540154187>But the Bible says no one knew the day or the hour, not even the angels, nor the SonHow could the son not know if he's God?
>>540154133>why did the angel in rev 19 tell johnWho is John? And the book of revelation is just a dream he had why should I care what some rando dreamt of?But again if you insist that proskuneo means worship then what is the difference between Abraham doing it to the Hittites and the disciples to jesus? Why force one as worship? The reason is that you have a theological commitment. And since giving reverence is a plausible explanation, we don't need to accept the claim that he accepted worship. So your original question of why did he accept worship is therefore null. You have up prove that it's worship and not just reverence. Go ahead let's see your context if you want to play that game. (There's literally no difference)
>>540154187>Rome took over and changed the narrative that people began to be deceived about it.This is your words not mine and therein lies the answer concerning Paul and the Christ.
>>540154335sometimes words have multiple meanings that are refined by contexti dont feel like explaining this further too youalso, no one said that abraham was perfect in all his ways, he and his decedents worshiped ba'al so using them as examples of whats acceptable is bad theology >hurr durr abraham had multiple wives so that means multiple wives is okay today hurr durr
>>540154335>the difference between Abraham doing it to the Hittites and the disciples to jesus?What if there is no difference and Abraham just made a mistake
>>540150876Imagine giving one single fuck about Jewish messiah’s and prophecies….
>>540154289This goes against every timing statement in the Bible.In the very first of Revelation, then again in the third verse>1 The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must *SOON* take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John, 2 who testifies to everything he saw—that is, the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ. 3 Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it, because the time is *NEAR*.(emphasis mine)... and at least a hundred more times in the NT.You are denying that Jesus was right about returning in one generation.
>>540154593revelation was written in 90ad at the earliest OP is saying jesus came back in 70adso, for the sake of the topic that makes zero sense
>>540154471>sometimes words have multiple meanings that are refined by contextExactly and the question is again, what's the context that makes one worship and the other not? Why should anyone accept that it was worship in the first place unless they already believe jesus is god? That's just begging the question.>abraham had multiple wives so that means multiple wives is okay todayYes it was and it is. In fact God says to David that He gave him his many wives and would have given more. Jesus says that he will give many wives to those that leave their current one for God.Luke 18:29-30New International Version29 “Truly I tell you,” Jesus said to them, “no one who has left home or wife or brothers or sisters or parents or children for the sake of the kingdom of God 30 will fail to receive many times as much in this age, and in the age to come eternal life.”>>540154479So everyone in the OT was wrong. Abraham, Jacob, the people that did proskuneo before David and Solomon, but the Christian translation is correct.
good thread in general>>540153629good post in general
>>540151885>Jesus's minions said...The cope is just pathetic at this point
>>540154334if you don't understand the trinity, you don't really have any business typing in this thread
>>540154673why did daniels friends refuse to prostrate to nebuchadnezzars statue if prostrating yourself cant be interpreted as worship?daniel 3:14>Nebuchadnezzar spake and said unto them, Is it true, O Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, do not ye serve my gods, nor worship the golden image which I have set up?daniel 3:18>But if not, be it known unto thee, O king, that we will not serve thy gods, nor worship the golden image which thou hast set up.
>>540154811what does any of this prostration argument have to do with preterism?
Idk. This all seems rather gay.But whatever.There are far gayer threads in this catalogue at any given moment, so that’s cool.
>>540154811Because it's paired up with latreuó which is service in worshiphttps://biblehub.com/strongs/greek/3000.htm
>>540154887idk, the mudslime got me off topic i apologize
>>540155010Nice Christian behaviour. Calling women dogs that should not be given scraps and trying to insult others by names. Very Christlike behaviour.
>>540154673>So everyone in the OT was wrong. Abraham, Jacob, the people that did proskuneo before David and Solomon,Yes, why not? From what I remember Solomon worshipped or permitted worshipping other gods for his wives, and David commited adultery. The same logic that applies to Abraham and general truth that nobody is perfect also applies to other biblical humans. This whole issue with worship of false gods was the subject of pretty much every generation of kings era so yes I totally believe there were a lot of mistaken "proskuneos"
>>540155044>muh dog argumentmudslime confirmed
>>540155083>argument If anyone called your mother a dog especially if she was begging him for help to save her daughter, and then he eventually helps her after calling her a dog to her face, would you give that guy a firm handshake or crack his skull open like an egg?
>>540150876you failed context.The generation that will not pass away is the one that saw the fig tree (Israel) bring forth new leaves.That is Israel had to wither first, then be restored.Israel withered in 70AD and beyond. it wasn't until the Muslims took over the place that they were truly withered though.They only came back as a nation recently.Jesus did not return in 70AD.Death still exists.Sin still exists.Until those things are gone. Prophecy is not fulfilled.>inb4 "it's spiritual"dying gasps of a fallacious system.I'll tell you what happened.in the 2nd century, people like Justin Martyr and Irenaeus were still waiting for the return of Jesus in the yet future.Then Augustine came around in the 4th century after 300 years of premillennial futurists, and decided, that since Israel had been scattered, and it was IMPOSSIBLE for them to come back and therefore literal fulfillment wasn't possible.. the retard started allegorizing scripture, and started thinking maybe things happend "spiritually" in the past.It caused immense damage to the church for over 1000 years, and is still doing so.it wed Greek Platonic Dualist philosophy with Christianity, it accomplished what the Gnostics were trying to do.
>>540155166syrophoenicians, which the woman was, kept "little dogs" (kynarion) as petsnotice jesus gave her an out, as she was able to follow up and say that even the "little dogs" eat from the masters table he was speaking to her culturenow, if he had called her a cur (Kuon), then it would have been an insult
>>540155371That's even worse. Imagine if someone called your mother a little dog. That's humiliating, dehumanising and extremely subhuman before. Disrespectful, absolutely no manners
>>540152017>>540152170Matthew 16:27 is talking about Armageddon, verse 28 is talking about the transfiguration. We know this because of>(2 Peter 1:16-18) No, it was not by following artfully contrived false stories that we acquainted YOU with the power and presence of our Lord Jesus Christ, but it was by having become eyewitnesses of his magnificence. 17For he received from God the Father honor and glory, when words such as these were borne to him by the magnificent glory: “This is my son, my beloved, whom I myself have approved.” 18Yes, these words we heard borne from heaven while we were with him in the holy mountain.That's what you keep ignoring. The Apostle Peter verifies that Matthew 16:28 was fulfilled in the mountain when they did see Jesus coming in his kingdom when Moses and Elijah were "present." Moses and Elijah were still dead by then but there presence represented God's Kingdom. Moses established the priestly class along with Aaron which would establish pure worship of Jehovah. Elijah was the first to use miracles to resurrect the dead. When Jesus went back to heaven he would become both king and priest in the same manner as Melchizedek. He would be responsible for maintaining pure worship like Moses was when the Aaronic priesthood and Levite class were established to maintain pure worship throughout Israel. Elijah represented the mass resurrection of mankind throughout the world after Armageddon THROUGH God's Kingdom.THAT was how Matthew 16:28 was fulfilled immediately.
>>540151885Who asked you?
>>540155447technically, he compared her to a little dog, he didnt say she was a little doghe also compared the grace of god to "childrens bread" in the same verseit was an analogy the word kynarion does not have negative connotations, again, he could have said kuon if he wanted to insult herthe idea being that syrophoenicians LIKED dogs, and she obviously knows dogs well enough to say that they will end up eating the same food as the children
>>540154792>if you don't understand the trinity, you don't really have any business typing in this threadGod is one, not three. I have yet to hear a satisfactory explanation of the trinity that that explains the unity of God.
>>540154664John is asked to measure the dimensions of the Second Temple in Revelation. This shows it must've been written prior to it's destruction.>>540154680thank u anon>>540155044>Very Christlike behaviourYes, it is Christlike. Every Christ did is Christlike.>>540155256>Jesus did not return in 70ADI mean, He said He would, so...>Death still exists.>Sin still exists.It's talking about spiritual death, not physical death. Sin has also been defeated. This is the result of the Old Covenant ("the law of works") ending. It doesn't exist in the New Covenant ("the law of faith").>>540155595no, Jehovah's Witness
>>540153729He is God enough to send the Holy Spirit (also God) after He went to the Father (God). Is that not God enough for you and your weird sect?
>>540154747You know they literally died for what they said (except John who was just exiled)
>>540156037Why did he need to send it back if he already possessed it during his baptism? Just wondering? But the verse your are referring to does not prove that Jesus is God, only that he works for God.
>>540155902>John is asked to measure the dimensions of the Second Temple in Revelation.hes told to measure "the temple of god"which is a euphemism meaning to judge gods people Corinthians 6:16>What agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; as God said, “I will make my dwelling among them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
>>540150876I’m beginning to think the millennial reign of Christ has already ended, and our history is a massive lie. It’s kind of a synthesis of several different theories, but it starts with the duodecimal system. Tartartards helped me realize this, but get zero credit because they never put the pieces together.We operate on a decimal system, I believe the previous kingdom operated on a duodecimal system. We see artifacts of this in our calendars, geometry, and even the numbers we use to count. We have these two numbers, eleven and twelve, that give way to the “teens” only to never show up again on the way to infinity. This will become important in a moment.So anyways, Christ was killed at the age of 33 and rose from the dead. The following seven years were a tribulation before the introduction of his kingdom, with the duodecimal system, in the year that would be called 40 AD by us. Thousand year reign, yadayadayada, Satan gets released in the ripe ol’ year of what we would call 1040 where he wipes out much of the remains of the kingdom and the memories and culture which informed it, including giving us the decimal system.Here is where it gets a little wierd. Most numbers duodecimal numbers are readable in decimal, but transmit the wrong information the the reader. For example, what we call 1040 years after the birth of Christ, a duodecimal user would call 728 years (interestingly coinciding with the iconoclasm). This is not fewer years, it is the exact same amount of time expressed two different ways. Meaning, if the devil came along and converted (DD)728 to (D)1040, people who still counted by duodecimal would read that number and interpret it differently. They would see (DD)1040 which would equal to (D)1776See where I’m going with this? Because if we consider the millennial reign to be a “great year”, then Satan’s “little season” should be about 250 years.We are in the endgame, bros. This is The Great Reset.
>>540150876Take your rabbi worship elsewhere crossnigger.
>>540156179Seems legit.
>>540156113The Holy Spirit is a Person>only works for GodAs a human he is the best Worker God ever had, but that is because He is fully Divine as per the Council of Nicaea. Also read John 1:1 and don't give me your pilpul heresy. Repent for the end is nigh.
>>540156415>The Holy Spirit is a PersonThe Holy Spirit is not a person dude. Nice try though.
>>540155256>Death still exists.>Sin still exists.Exactly. OP's proof evidently can't be correct but his initial lines of thought caught my attention because when I read the Bibble I also understood that this 2nd coming should had already came to pass and when I read commentary it said tha it's a 'mixed prophecy' or something which just doesn't make sense. As it stands there is no logically consistent explanation for these 'within generation' prophecies but there is a practical explanation that it was a lie to get his disciples more fanatical and willing to part with their lives
>>540156475john 16:13>Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.>he>he>he>himself>he>he>hesounds like he has personhood
>>540156539>heUsing the world it doesn't have the same ring to it.
>>540156118No, he was given the following instructions:>Go and measure the temple of God and the altar, and count the number of worshipers there. But exclude the courtyard outside the temple. Do not measure it, because it has been given over to the nations, and they will trample the holy city for 42 months.>>540156179Love a good schizo theory but this is incoherent. You need to explain it better. >>540156484See my reply to this here >>540155902
>>540155837oh, nevermind. You're the same retard calling Paul the Anti-Christ. carry on then
>>540156720>No, he was given the following instructionsyes, and what did god mean by that?can you explain?
>>540156475You're either trolling or retarded.
>>540156827Lmao>>540156835There is no need to explain, it is clear enough on it's own. He was told exactly which area to measure and to count the number of people there. Your interpretation doesn't make any sense.
>>540156484Brother, be wary, preterism is a route that leads people to losing their faith entirely. Pretribulationism is another possible route that direction, people set dates and when nothing happens people lose faith. Happened in like 1844, 1988, 2000, 2011, 2012, 2017, etc. people are now setting like a 2030 date (the Messiah 2030 series)Being a preterist or a date setting pretrib, both lead to losing faith.Jesus didn't give dates, He gave signs, days of Noah, days of Lot, then he pointed at the Book of Daniel and said, let the reader understand... so.. understand Daniel, Daniel is key.so you go to Daniel, Daniel lays out how Persia will have 4 kings, the 3rd and 4th king rule at the same time, and the 4th king is the wealthiest and most powerful. They'll attack all their neighbors to the west north and south, and then Javan (which is modern day Turkey, Greece in ancient times in the foreshadowing) would get angry and move in and destroy Persia, become an Empire, then get broken into 4 pieces... a recapitulation of Alexander the Great (Gabriel said that the vision was of the end times, 300 BC was not the end times).In Iran we're on king 3 of 4 and he's not able to be seen in public, so a co-ruler is basically required.
>>540155902>This is the result of the Old Covenant ("the law of works") ending. It doesn't exist in the New Covenant ("the law of faith").So you're like one of those christians that think you can do what you want: murder, steal, deceive etc.. and it's not a sin as long as you believe in Jesus?
>>540156484I was with you until I read your last sentence and then I formed a conclusion about you, and then noticed you used a meme flag, and my conclusion was verified
>>540157025>So you're like one of those christians that think you can do what you want: murder, steal, deceive etc.. and it's not a sin as long as you believe in Jesus?Most Christians do since they need to be told what to believe instead of how to act.
>>540156933>it is clear enough on it's ownrevelation is anything but clear
>>540156827You can't the question. God is one, not three. I have yet to hear a satisfactory explanation of the trinity that that explains the unity of God. As for Paul, he was on a mission for the Pharisees and Rome, circumcising the Christians from Judaism. Paul's teaching are dogma (what to believe), not practice (or how to act).
>>540156827>Paul is antichristIf God gave Peter the keys to the Church, then how did Paul end up with them?
>>540157372there's a difference between you hearing a satisfactory answer and you refusing a satisfactory answer. Everyone else is plenty satisfied.I could give you a bunch of attempts. My most favorite one I've thought about recently is:I'm a game developer. I created an MMORPG. Before I launch the servers, I went ahead and created my own character too. Then I launch the servers. At a certain point I start playing my own character (the Son). And I can not only issue admin-level commands like changing the weather or whatever (the Father), I can also read your private messages, adjust your attribute points, give you guidance, etc (the Spirit). Transcendant, Immanent, and Within. Outer space, in Life, Inner space.Outside of me, on my boundaries (blood washing me clean), Inside of me.It's not THAT complicated, which is why I think you just don't want to be satisfied.You are a mind, you are emotions, you are a body. All three of these things are true, and yet you are one. Now expand that up a level of implementation to another order of existence.
>>540157674Are you really saying you are the same person as your game? You are not the same personas your game or character.
>>540157674Emotions are not us, they happen to us. You are not anything you can experience.
>>540150876>www.chosenpeople.com
>>540150876Preterism is false because the final enemy is death. The problem has always been the paradox between Matthew 22:30 and 1 Timothy 4:1, and also the real main problem has been Hymenaeus, Philetus and Alexander the Coppersmith.
Who fulfilled Christ's prophecies in 70 AD, op?
>>540157025No, we are still required to do good works, they are the sign (fruit) of true faith. It's explained in Romans 3:>Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law.>>540158204What contradiction? There is no contradiction between those two verses, you might've cited the wrong verse.Also, reading further in Matthew 22:31-33:>"And as for the resurrection of the dead, have you not read what was said to you by God: ‘I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? He is not God of the dead, but of the living.” And when the crowd heard it, they were astonished at his teaching.>>540158374God
>>540158854>It's explained in Romans 3No this doesn't explain it. It's called negating without elaboration. This is another thing that just doesn't really make sense. Why are we called to uphold the law - and the law not even in it's original form - but with some minor laws cut out like those about wearing different fibers if there is no purpose anymore? Under your set of logic - it's not possible to sin anymore with bad deeds. If i killed you at this moment is that bad? Not anymore cause it's not a sin if sins have been eliminated.
>>540159444Checked. It sounds like you didn't even try reading Romans 3. It addresses this very question:>Someone might argue, “If my falsehood enhances God’s truthfulness and so increases his glory, why am I still condemned as a sinner?” Why not say—as some slanderously claim that we say—“Let us do evil that good may result”? Their condemnation is just!
