If you don't support one or the other then you're a coward and a fence sitter and nobody should take your opinions seriously.
communism = “I trust browns with my society”Thus we can assume that you are brown.
>>540173798>pick red!>pick blue!>both are socialist shitshows
nazism is the nigger of ideologies
>>540173798Only if you mean old school tanky commies not modern faggots like >>540173883 this guy is on about
>>540173798They are both gay authoritarian states
I don't support collectivism
>>540173975>freedom is when billionaires control everything instead of the state
>>540173956one gets raped in the gulag and the other is american
>>540174007>projecting
>>540173883Nazism: allying with japanese and hiring true aryan white jeets to kill brown ass subhumans like slavs, romance speaking people and germanics that don't want to be absorbed by germans
>>540173798Actual communism is profoundly retarded. As an abstract concept its fine. But when you get into the details its utterly brain dead. Far too controlling in ways it does not need to be. Like, for example, there is no good justification in banning small business.
>>540173798One is international socialism and the other is national socialism, national socialism can only work in homogeneous countries, which Serbia is not, there are far too many Turks and other tartar rapebabies here, Greek historians described Serbians and brown haired, pale, green or blue eyed warriors, all I see around me is poop brown mouth breathers
>post-enlightenment nihilistic cancerI'll pass.The best system is a Christian Monarchy with philosopher kings. The greatest civilization in the world was Byzantium.
>>540173798Communism is a Jewish strategy to achieve power by scapegoating "capitalists" for what Jews do collectively as a race.>Hey goy, capitalism sucks, so you should become a Mao/Stalin-loving tranny now, definitely DON'T become a National Socialist and deal with the actual problem, anti-semitism is bad, mmkay?
>>540174071>One is international socialism and the other is national socialismExactly. Both are on similar sides of the ideological slideruler. Both are anti-capitalism.Decades of Cold War propaganda left many normies confused
>>540173798Both don't even exist anymore
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>>540174058Counterpoint: Japan is cool
it doesn't take bravery at all when you got multi-billion dollar corporations and jews funding communist cucks.
>>540174330Left/Ring wing is a false dichotomy created out of the French Revolution."Conservatism" is just Liberalism driving the speed limit.Reject the """""enlightenment""""" pushed by satanic secret societies and (((them)))
>>540173938is Russian style racemixxing and "Russian World" really better lol?
>>540173798An ideology is only as good as the men upholding. resolve to cultivate virtue within instead of blindly following ideology
>>540173798>communism or socialismCapitalists on suicide watch.
>>540173798Americanism came before both and it worked pretty well until Jews subverted it using these two ridiculous ideologies
>>540173798>The only real ideologiesIf you are a 15 year old girl or a 10 year old boy
>>540173798NoNow we have MAGA MAGA trumps both if those (pun intended)
>>540173798>Big Government 1>Big Government 2Democide is the leading cause of death in Homo sapiens.
>>540173798>More binary hysterics on /pol/Fuck this, fuck you and fuck off.Dramatic ape brains whose mouths are only matched by the size of their asses threaten to ruin civilization, larping that somehow communism or fascism is the answer. One lost a world war from being broke and scatterbrained, the other starved millions in gulags. Radically accept that everything in life is a moral balance, often between socialist and capitalist values. You are responsible for your own fate, not some historically failed movement. And if you aren't smart enough to support that nuance then I hope your genes go extinct. One thing I know for sure is your It's-happening-ass ain't picking up a gun for either ideology
>>540173798You have to be 18 to post here.
>>540173798They're both just flavours of leftist totalitarianism
>>540174658You people say its a false dichotomy but that is retardation Only one party is open boarders Only one party is decriminalising shitskins Only one party supports racial solidarity for shitskins Only one party is pushing for socialist/communism policies Only one party believes men can be women and women can be menOnly one party wants sexually deviant freaks around kids Only one party wants men in womens dressing rooms Only one party wants to actively destroy America Only one party was supporting Burn Loot and Murder Only one party is the one electing judges who let shitskin criminals go free Only one party is doing all thatThere is no false dichotomy you fucking idiot
>>540173798>Your only choice is authoritarian collectivism
>>540175409And the other is literally starting a world war for jews which outweighs everything else
>>540175409that has nothing to do with gommunism. thats american liberalism. idgaf if these freaks call themselves "communists".
>>540175486No it doesnt You are just as retarded as the other guy. Only one party is causing all the issues we face in America vs some people on the right having loyalty to Israel. Not even comparable you nimrod.
>>540174658>false dichotomyI think it's more outdated than false. The Industrial Revolution wouldn't have happened if there were no worker unions.The real hoodwink happened when ((academics)) bundled LGBT+ and immigration with the real Socialist Movement
>>540175589It is comparable jew. America is already brown so even Nick says it cannot be saved.Meanwhile you are starting wars and flooding refugees into Europe. On top of that you are hawks with China which if you start a war with them we literally die.It is actually better to be woke than dead
>>540175557He said that there is a false dichotomy I told him he was false. I don't care if thats how “american politics” vs European politics is This bullshit of it being a false dichotomy is retardation in an american perspective. I dont see why we need the left at all, I would rather just work with less right wing than me right wingers over a leftist. Leftists are the enemy.
>>540175687No its not comparable. Leftism is destroying this country and boomer kosherism is on its way out of fashion. It really is not comparable at all>its better to be woke than dead Okay so thats the type of discussion we are having here Little leftshit faggot go kill yourself
"the problem about socialism is you eventually run out of someone else's money"the key is 'whose money'
>>540173798>nobody should sufferwhat ideology is this?
>>540173798we kill both.... so fuck u loser
>>540175702>>540175767The left has merely been taken over by a bunch of lunatics.It used to be about simply creating an egalitarian economy.Socialist used to advocate for strict border control, the rule of law, and protecting traditional values etc. Their main concern was jobs, housing and pensions.These people had grown up in dirt poor poverty where men women and children worked liked slaves in factories with zero protection and lived in squalor.What happened was that their offspring, whom had grown up in a now nice safe and wealthy, and recieved a college education, began looking for 'new problems' to 'fix' society. They became ideological for the sake of being ideological. They began to scorn their socialist parents for being too "materialistic", that the real problem wasnt housing, pension and jobs, but gay marriage, open borders, anti-racism, feminism. The left that we have today has evolved from these people.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Left
>>540173798System of governance is irrelevant, they come and go naturally in step with the times. The only thing that matters is the survival of your own people
>>540176321>grown up in a now nice safe and wealthy,grown up in a now nice safe and wealthy country*
>>540176332>>>540176187>"we kill both.... so fuck u loser"you chose 'oligarchy'.- natsoc: fuck other nations, we support workers- ethnosoc: fuck other colors, we support workers- statusquo: fuck workers, we support billionaires
>>540176321i appreciate the info anon, thanks
Marxists act like socialism was grunge-comfy: you'd have your factory job and your crummy apartment but you also wouldn't have to worry about anything. In other words it'd be a better version of being underemployed in the West, which most of these guys are. Not so. Not only did the communist regimes never reach communism, they never even reached full socialism as outlined in the Critique of the Gotha Programme. It was more like slave capitalism with the state as the capitalist. They think they'll go from working at Burger King to working at a crummier, grimier version of the same fast food restaurant only with sweet benefits. It's more like the Burger King is taken over by a psychopath who halves your pay and makes you work double shifts in pursuit of the Ultimate Burger. But the supplies aren't even consistently there for you to make the Burger. You also have to pretend to be excited about the Burger and any sign of dissatisfaction could result in being tortured to death. These catastrophes were not accidents nor were the communist revolutionaries any more 'evil' than any other revolutionary, like George Washington, they were compelled by the logic of their own ideology to mass murder. States can't replace markets. To the extent that these states sort-of functioned it was because they opened up to capitalism but they still sucked. Capitalism really DOES depend on personal freedom, Marx at any rate understood this. He was looking to a magic future 'beyond' individual freedom, and because of the intimate relationship between capitalism and freedom socialist states can only function by state terror.
>>540173798ITS JUST EASIER THAT WAYLIKE YING AND YAN LEFT AND RIGHT COMMIES VS NAZIS FOREVER
>>540173798>only 2 optionsso whats yours?
Ideology is for midwits. It comes in with the rise of democracy and secularism.
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>>540173975>words words words>careful denial of realitythe left cant meme q.e.d.—
>>540178803> only 2 optionsthird option is 'neoliberalism':- "naah, do nothing / status quo / muh freedom bro"
>>540173975>i dOnT LiKe CoLlEcTiViSmok live alone in a forest for some time see how you fare, report back on how it goes—
>>540179011> "i use piss"this
>>540179011You do realize that NSDAP agricultrual policy was the exact same as USSR?The state decided what to produce and how much on farms. You nearly had a famine ib 1938.The only difference is that you allowed people to get extremely rich and left the landlords and feudal descendants aloneThe only reason why you got away with it is because you had better engineers so you didn't fuck up as badly as Stalin.This is why communist Yugoslavia moved to a market system for food, the only regulation was that one farm was not allowed to be over 10 Acres
>>540173798>Goyim belive my narrative! This are the only options I will offer, China bad or Nazi badWhat about Kike bad
>>540179185>hitler was actually the bad guy, heres why:
>>540179338Holy shit you are retarded
>>540173798Basically true but more so communism is another form of Jewish... and basically everything is Jewish...besides the actual right, which is also full of Jewish / Fake, Anon
>>540179432hitler did nothing wrong, every sane person knows that, even those in denial feel it—
I pick whichever society tortures normgroids the most. So in other words, there's no need to pick either for the next 15-20 years. No need to work either. All is right with the world.
>>540179806Are all Germans this delusional or just you
>>540179937>butthurt belt screeches
>>540180055your shithole is less than 50% white esé, turn down that horrible music
>>540173798Based, Heil Hitler o/
>>540179937“For the believer, no explanation is necessary, for the unbeliever, no explanation is possible.”
>>540173929Unlike based capitalism, right
maybe OP should drink bleach
>>540180223Isn't this like idolatry
>>540180238Look, I can search for mein kampf and communist manifesto right now and read it.Anywhere else there would be a bunch of glownigger censors
>>540173798In case anyone's wondering, these symbols mean Jews vs. Gentiles and anyone trying to tell you they don't is a Jew.
>>540180364Are we pretending glownigger censors dont scan every digital message produced globally? Theres your based capitalism, bro
>>540173798>worshiping the works of man over the LordNo thank you.
>>540180364But you know jews want to get rid of free speech right?
>>540173956You know nothing about Soviet culture if you think they were "anti feminist"
>>540180537I can still read these thingsIf I read a banned book in a totalitarian regime I am literally killedImagine that. Killed for reading a word from a paper
>>540175995>natsocreduces people to an economic zone.>ethnosocbased on genetic reality.
>>540173798Both lost to this one: $
>>540173798You browns and your ideologies...
Ask anyone how to define the differences between Communism and Fascism. They won't be able to.
>>540178928t. leftest collectivist
>>540173798>(((communism)))>a real ideologyLmao. It was created with the sole purpose to take over the USSR, and later Europe. It's not an ideology. It's a handbook on how to genocide goys.
>>540181182The state kills whoever it wants under capitalism, they just use corruption to do it. Anarcho-tyranny is still tyranny, but under capitalism the corruption cannot be fixed because its intentional. >>540181596And $ lost to the taliban, shall we all become Muslim now?
>>540173798it's all infinitely worse than your "courageous" brain can possibly imagine.
>>540184294commies and nazis were notoriously corruptanarchotyranny was most succesfully implemented by commies, retardcapitalism is simply what free men do, even under those retarded totalitarian ideologies, since eventually reality hits them in the face and they have to reintroduce capitalist elements to their economy to not collapse in the most pathetic way possible
>>540174045wrongone rapes germansand the other is american
>>540176321The socialist left was always full of lunatics. Even before Marx. Just look at Taylor, the socialist who literally thought that animals would evolve under socialism into helpful household pets and beasts of burden for ships (specifically whales if I remember correctly). You also got the posadist imbeciles. Egalitarianism is a lie and not desirable at all beyond applying rules evenly for the pertinent population given a geopolitical unit. An egalitarian economy is just an euphemism for state backed mass extortion, theft and neurotic control.
>>540174058So, essentially like today's Russia. Allying with browns and Asians to kill other Slavs who don't want to be absorbed by Russia. Got it.
>>540185491Why not apply that standard to the family? Why should the breadwinner give a shit about his wife and kids if according to you nobody should give a shit about his fellow countrymen.
>>540173798they both lost to my flag, faggot.history revisionists are even more pathetic.
>>540185548What makes you think he supports it? Most Russians hate Putin's immigration policy. They just can't say it outloud anymore
I'm a classic liberal, nationalist and monarchist. German ideologies are all nonsense.
>>540185765>I'm a classic liberal, nationalistIdeologies from French Revolution>and a monarchistBro what
>>540173883Communism is a slave system; fascism at least has real brotherhood and values beauty, health and nature. Communism is ugly, anti-human and uses the population up with no regard for fulfilment. Communism is rule by foreigners, which is why it’s the jew’s favourite system. Being foreigners ruling over the goy. Fascism is a nation and peoples looking after each other.
>>540185581>Why not apply that standard to the family?Which standard? There is no egalitarianism within the family. Quite the contrary, a hierarchy is necessarily present, and we give them preferential treatment compared to people who are not family. >Why should the breadwinner give a shit about his wife and kidsBecause it is his legacy, and humans are intrinsically rewarded for it.> if according to you nobody should give a shit about his fellow countrymenI never said this. You should give a shit about many things. Just because I have not exhaustively listed them as I shit on your retarded egalitarianism, it does not mean I am telling you you should not give a shit about them, such as your fellow countrymen.
>>540185809Many liberals still though monarchy was a better system. Of course those liberals were not the same liberals who shat on the crown. Hell, if you want to go up the family tree of classical liberalism, you will eventually meet libertarianism, which includes Hoppean libertarianism, which, despite not being strictly monarchist, it places it above democracy by a huge margin.
>>540173971And they're both leftist ideologies. Into the trash w/ both.
>>540176137communismequal education and food to everyoneif a nigger tries to be better and bigger, cut his head offindividualism is cancer created by liberals and kikesno human matters more than the other
Developed Socialism was based
>>540173798Both are based. They never should have broken MR pact. What a shame.
>>540185220Capitalism is when corporations control all aspects of your life and use a puppet government surveillance state to rape children and murder dissidents.No thanks, I'll stick with Hitler.
>>540173929>nazis socialistno, retard.the nazis:-privatized resources-anschluss is a call to an imperial past, not a egalitarian future-hatred of jews and concentration camps is idpol, not class consciousness-allied with capitalists from the u.s.-allied with monarchist franco, mussolini, and imperial japan-allied with catholic church with traditional values-biggest political opposition was german bolshevik party-had to have a reichstag fire false flag and blamed commies-started a war with the fucking soviet union-nazi officers who survived the war got new jobs with the u.s. to fight the soviet union because fascism is indicative of capitalism and the far right
>>540174624>capitalist corporations are actually communismretard
>>540175330Yup, it's hard to believe people still have faith in the incompetent, bloodthirsty masses so much so they want to be ruled by them
>>540173883This is what you look like.
>>540185741>They just can't say it outloud anymoreThey don't say it here either and just deflect.
>>540192927They never think twice about who gets the money
>>540192883>Marxism is socialism Says who
>>540176409Communism does not fight for the survival of your people.Liberalism doesn't.But now you've eliminated half of Serbia.And that's the "smarter" half because half of what's remaining are peasant-tier cretins.Anyways, masses do not matter. The elites do. We do not have educated and great elites, we have ex-communist parasites and Bosnian hicks, often the two are connected.
>>540173798Commies lost world power status, nazis haven't run a country in 8 decades. Nome of these ideals have what it takes
>>540173798Agreed, dont be a pussy and take things to their logical conclusion, either you support jewish planetary scale slavery which is communism or tribalistic national sovereignty=natsoc
>>540173798National socialism, all the way! get ovened jew.
>>540175995Bruh you tried that, tactic... huh? Like that "natsoc" ain't on same side coin as capitalism, no difference but control by same usury, enjoy your molding shill life.
