Is this the ultimate housing hack?
Don’t see how that’s anymore convenient than a shit apartment?
>>540183966yesput solar on your roof and work remotelysave money and stop paying the landlord's mortgageI have nothing against landlordsI hate communists so much you can't even imagine but I see no reason to spend my income paying for someone else's mortgage>t. been living out of a vehicle for years and years at this point and saved so much in rent it's insane
>>540183966if you have your parents or whatever to fall back on, sure. this is lunacy if you are truly alone.
>>540184320it can cost a lot less depending on your setupif you're just staying at campgrounds all the time then a shit apartment is only a little more but if you're able to boondock a lot or stealth in the streets then you can save tons of money
>>540184492>i can do it so everyone else can took bud
>>540183966>just accept an ever-decreasing standard of living, goy
>>540184537not true it is good to fall back on relatives sometimes, sure but you absolutely can go it aloneI've done it
Yes. I lived like this 7 years but you're not allowed to be outside a home at night anymore so I had to stop. I was always driving to a new town, city, etc, sleep in Carpathian Mountains. Always had a good time.
>>540184631how do you renew your license? car registration? anything that requires an address? you must have someone to help you with this.
>>540183966We're regressing back to nomadic wanderers. I've got a new neighbor who bought empty land by me and is just living out of a tent on it.
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>>540183966No. Vanlife sucks, you're being raped by anyone that sees you living in a van, because obviously something is wrong with you, "They wanted you out, or you refuse to be part of society".So you might think, "well I'll just buy land and live off-grid on that in my van", there's plenty of affordable land with no amenities, someplace to park. But then there are neighbors. They are going to judge you as much as city dwellers if you don't have a "house" even if they are living in a mobile home, or a bigger commercial RV, you're still obviously doing something wrong in their eyes because if you don't have a "real" home.I think the cheapest bet is tiny home on acres.
>>540184492What about showers?
>>540184492>but I see no reason to spend my income paying for someone else's mortgageOk, my rental property has been paid off for years, wanna quit living in a van down by the river and get in to a decent place?
>>540184813gyms or the ymca will have showers. not necessarily a problem so long as you have money.
>>540183966Goybox
>Is this the ultimate housing hack No buying a sailboat is way better. You can actually live in it and you get to travel the world while fishing. If you buy enough dividend stock and are frugal you can just be a chill fisherman. You can dock in a country with less powerful currency and live like a king.
>>540184694this is the part they don't tell you. you will end up frustratingly failing trying to figure this shit out past the deadline while on free mcdonalds wifi
>>540184694PO box
>>540185185you can't use PO boxes to renew official stuff for car licensing, registration, insurance, or even to apply for a job. you must have a home address.
>>540185306Shit, you're right.Apparently you can rent a box from someplace like the UPS store. Unlike a PO box it will show an actual street address. May get by with that.
>>540183966Its not housing, by definition, its caring. Its really embarrassing that a foreigner has to teach you your own language
Living with mom is the ultimate housing hack. Infinitely more comfy, more amenities, and cheaper.
>>540183966Yes, and pic related is the ultimate food hack. These bastards are everywhere.
>>540183966I feel like the “ultimate housing hack” should involve a house, but maybe I’m just old fashioned
>>540185778Easy pussy, too.
>>540185306Instead of PO BOX, Just write APT #
>>540183966That's called homeless so no
>>540184779>(((its afraid)))
>>540184779>>540186250>((()))
>>540183966Beats out of pocket $600-1000/mthly. Instills an adaptive skill set in anons. Try to do it close to the ocean... pacific northwest
>>540184585I’d imagine that the (((police))) probably bust your nuts when they find you stealthing on the road.
>>540185306You just put the address of the post office down as the address. No problem
>>540184779>me too right just vibing with my bros, practicing my mean look
This might be a pure anecdotal coincidence but I have known two different guys who got into van life and then proceeded to kill themselves. I think its because the intense desire to escape their life leads them to van life. Then the disparity between their vision and how actually living in a van feels is enough to put someone into an extremely bad mental state. Plus you lost a lot of money. The resale value on converted vans is really bad.
>>540187334sigh. some of you are special. surely no one has tried this before. surely.
>>540183966>the man has some greasy lowlife tow your house and all your possessions into a locked compoundsounds like a great life
I love how white men have pretty much given up on reconquering society, now at best they hope to live a hobo life surviving with the bare minimum in some shack in the woods or a van
>>540184585>This!I stealthed around for years in a tinted out Black Toyota and smoked so much crack in that bitch it was unreal and saved more money buying drugs almost every day than living in an apartment costs now!
>>540187234Totally but that's why you gotta be fleet of tongue and foot, talk your way out of things and when talk doesn't work you put Peddle to Metal
>>540187627IN A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!
>>540187535I am right though bro. Addresses are not real. You can tell them you live at 69 4chan street and get your car registered. If this is ever questioned say you became homeless. Its not illegal to become homeless or whatever.
Best stealth is a used box truck that has cab to box access. You proof the walls for sound and light, lots of room for roof solar, you can walk around. Now just park anywhere there is construction. And your ebike fits nicely for little trips
>>540184320A shit apartment is $1200+/mo so Billy Boomer can go on seasonal cruises and never fix anything.
>>540187640How did you earn money to just stealth around? You lived in the same city or did you go city to city?
>>540183966no. it sucks and cops will chase you out of everywhere. plus your "home" can get towed & impounded
>>540187932or actually give your address as the homeless shelter. I remember being fascinated with a buisness who would, for a monthly fee, set you up with a mail box in some warehouse and then they will open your mail, scan it, digitize into a searchable form, and email it to you. Thus removing the need to deal with physical mail. And if you sent physical stuff they will forward it to your real address and that way you can keep the real address hidden from anyone trying to get in your buisness or whatver. It sounds like a fantastic buisness. I cant believe its not a house hold name by now. Then again I am continuously astonished by how much goy cattle do not care about their privacy.
>>540188057>viddid they bring in sleight of hand magicians after that?
>>540187535Fraudulent vehicle registration has been a thing for a long time anon. You may also be impressed to know people have been able to legally enter the country and collect federal benefits despite not being citizens.
>>540188111Werks
>>540183966The Patriot Act says if you don't have a home address then you're a terrorist and can't have a bank account, job, etc
>>540188265I have all my cars under one of my baby mommas name. She is responsible so her license is always valid which means I can drive my cars without an actual license and they will never pull me over.
>>540188057>>540188242you ignored my comment so now i'm leaving the thread. fuck you asshole
>>540188242>women still twerking in background>David Blaine walks in>Holy fuck!>is this your card?>points to CO behind him>CO holding an ace of diamonds>oh shit, chimpout.exe>ejaculates through the bulletproof glass>David Blaine levitates out of the room
>>540188677sounds about right
>>540184779Everyone looks at you weird because you're a fucking schizo not because of what you live in. I have a house in the sticks where the county lets you put whatever on the ground as a dwelling and nobody cares.>I think the cheapest bet is tiny home on acres.Get a normal doublewide with a livable floor plan. It's actually cheaper and dramatically nicer. Tiny homes are toys for trust fund kids who are too hip for Airstream or cope for failed roasties who don't want to say they live in a doublewide.
>>540188111>>540188416Just form a mafia to deal with asshole sedentary shitheads. Film the cop/community member in a livesstream and if he doesnt leave you alone and fucks with you then half a year later he gets sniper shot along with 2-3 more random members of the so called "community".
>>540183966better off to put a camper in the box of a truck so you can actually fucking stand up in it.
>>540183966Tfw living in a van down by the river is a life goal now
>>540184779>imagine how much you will be judged by JewsLmao
>>540183966no but its acceptable as a 3day bugout vehicle in order to reach your innawoods underground fortress
>>540184779Is perfectly normal if you keep moving
>>540188416I just send my mail to friends/family.
>>540184537At least with a house you can haunt for decades after you die, die in a car and it will probably get totaled by the next owner and you become a wandering ghoul for eternity
>>540190203No ill stay in a comfy spot long term if i feel like it and repay 10fold whoever messes with me in about half a year. The goal is not to replace rent expenses with fuel expenses.
>>540187791>you put Peddle to Metalok that's funny
>>540183966>Living in a trailer park is the ultimate housing hack
>>540184320> zero rent> mobile> park and sleep almost anywhere> save money
>>540184813Truckstop
>>540189530the least fed-like post on 4chan
>>540185306>>540185537You may be able to use a Registered Agent or similar service. Basically look for the mail services expats use to maintain state residency requirements. If all else fails, set your legal residence address to a friend's place or abandoned property but the mailing address to one of these mail services. Most of them will scan mail for you and provide PDFs. They can also print and mail things on your behalf. The most expensive option is to use a specialized lawyer.
>>540187234They do Park in parking lots of stores open all night or some walmarts or truckstops Or at end of friends driveways at night to sleep to avoid police harrassment although some areas ok to park on street just need to make it appear noone is in vehicle.
>>540190945Europe is full of delivery boxes, how is it in US? I prefer it usually because I don't want to plan around being in my home at certain moment.
>>540188178>It sounds like a fantastic buisness. I cant believe its not a house hold name by now. These services are everywhere. One of the biggest ones is InCorp - they handle every state. Many more are local/regional.
>>540188057Gun flipping, drug dealing, protection services and city to city movement all day everyday, sometimes would hole up in the same run down gas station parking lots tho, also had to start selling feet pics to weird overseas gooners
>>540188031Not here. Shit one room apartment is between 2500 and 3000
>>540190769If you cant stop being an asshole then pastor jimosky to keep you and your ilk mindcucked or else bad things will happen to him.
>>540191082We have them everywhere, but governments keep track of their addresses and block their usage for government services due to tax fraud. Basically life gets very complicated if you do not have a normal "fixed" address that's legally classified as a residence.
>>540184492What do you do when you have to use the bathroom in the middle of the night? Park outside a 24/7 gym?
>>540191266>If you cant stop being an assholeSeriously check vintage photos of irish travellers, literal people coming out of a fairy tale, but euroserfs couldnt stop being assholes so they transformed into a mafia that terrorizes irecucks. Here is another example with romani gypsies. Its seriously your own fault if you end up with such a terror roaming around instead of fairy tale nature spirits.
>>540191372Nah man, those 24/7 truck stops and TA travel stations with the Denny's built into em. If you're gonna live out of a vehicle you gotta make sure the basics are met, I once met a man who was living in the ceiling off the Bosselman bathroom in Grand Island, NE this way.
>38 years old>Everyone I went to high school with, no matter how successful they are, have all moved back home with their parents>The few people I know from high school that actually lucked out and remained independent are now always on facebook with them/their wife screeching about how they can't afford to do anything>My GP with 3 kids had to move back with his parents>My 32 year old psych with successful practice had to move back with his parents>Wife and I lose our home during all the covid nonsense because I wasn't allowed to keep my business open; couldn't get a mortgage after that or any kind of bank loan as I was seen as "unreliable". We ended up lucking out finding a rental, and are one of the few people I know at all that still live away from parentsThank god my parents left me their massive house as inheritance due to my brother being a little thieving scum bag druggy, so he gets nothing. I can't imagine having to rent forever. It's just the absolute worst not being able to do any modifications, not being able to do any significant landscaping, not being allowed to put a fuckin nail in the wall. Having strangers walk through where you live every 3 months inspecting everything to make sure you didn't dare drop a kitchen plate and chip a tile, and to make sure you didn't DARE to fix anything broken in the house like a faucet or power outlet that you've been begging them for MONTHS to please fix. Every year the piece of shit who owns the home we live in (he's a politician that runs on "affordable housing", lmao) raises the rent by $100 a week on average. When we started renting in 2022 it was $340 a week, now it's $800 a week... For a 30 year old home infested with mold in all the cavities that the owner refuses to do anything about.Meanwhile all the dirty, disgusting jeets and Africans who have been here for a year or two are GIVEN brand new homes that I have to pay with my taxes. I hate Australia more than you faggots could possibly know.
>>540183966the hack is location-independent income, mainly known as online job nowthen you can live on a cheap rent in the second world, or innawoods in your birth country
>>540191372Just find a curry place and shit in front of their door.
>>540190340Then you will face all the problems people mentioned
>>540192584Sure, ill leave(see you again in 7 months).
>>540184320I can only afford to live with other niggers as broke as I am and for some reason there is always one in the group that is awake in the middle of the night. Either he has some physical problem that force him to take a shit every other hour at 3 in the morning or they're high on meth or drunk.House sharing with strangers is the most unhealthy fucking shit I have ever experienced follow by renting all by my self, spend 2/3rds of my income on the shit box and still have a meth out neighbor either on the top floor or next to me that is awake in the middle of the fucking night doing only God knows what in the fuck instead of resting for the next dayThis shit is like a fucking epidemic of dopamine seeking idiots who can't put the fucking phone away and would rather sleep until 2 in the afternoon than missing a Facebook post of what everyone else actually did through the day
>>540190491>get druk all day>shoot guns>fuck your cousin >die high as balls from a meth OD while fucking your cousin I dunno seems like paradise to me
Yes. Jews hate it, whores hate it, haters hate you even more cus now you don't paying any jew bills like they have to. Single mom's especially want your cock, because you can provide but you tell the bitches NO. You can easily follow your dreams in life by living like a bum in your car. That paycheck is all yours, baby! Rightfully so
>>540193379Boomers especially SEETHE. If you have potential in the world but have been wronged by it, nothing says FUCK YOU more than thriving while living out of your vehicle and saying NO
>>540185306there are services you can pay for to act as a go-between for a po box and a residence.
>>540192668That was the last time I heard of anon, the press says he was eaten by a bear
>>540185142there are always ways and means if you're not retarded. even the retarded deserve to live free, but just for the general public's edification: this is a datamining thread probably started by pigs or that one slimy looking goofy-toothed asshole, i can't remember his name, who wants to round the homeless up into camps. if you know a loophole or have some good ideas, keep them the fuck to yourself.
>>540184492What if I need to shower or cook?
>>540194040Not if bears eat you first.
>>540187627wow niggers, jeets, spics jews and retard women must really suck they would do that to get away from themthey should stop being so fucking shitty to be around
>>540183966Having to be incognito and avoid suspicion gets tiring after awhile. Having the Vanlife vans makes you stick out like a sore thumb. What I did was have a car with a large trunk, slept with my upper body in the trunk, and legs covered in a tap, so anyone looking in thinks its just wooden beams or whatever. Move locations a lot too.The upside is that your car is your hotel, and you can go wherever the fuck you want. Getting sick absolutely sucks though.>t. Did this for 3 years in CA
>>540183966If you're really going to commit to this just get a fucking RV at this point.
>>540187627Thats what i always wanted nigger. I want to find a comfy beach and paint then by the of summer find a comfy forest and gather mushrooms etc.
>>540194483>Be you>California>Have to live in carYeah, makes sense.Did the 14 startups not go well?
>>540184320The apartment blocks are full of shitskins who get free money
>>540184779>someplace to park. But then there are neighbors. They are going to judge you as much as city dwellersOh no! Not the judgement!
>>540194896HOAs are basically Judge Dredd for the American homeowner.
If I ever get divorced I will do this. Would be extremely easy to go unnoticed in a white panel van in the various industrial estates and retail parks around the country. A puregym membership for £30 a month gives 24/7 access to showers, toilets and drinking water.
>>540194896They are gonna judge you anyways. That christnigger wants you to be heidi's grandpa being snided and shunned by a bunch of serfs without the option to turn into vengeful mad max with overwhelming tactical advantage over them.
>>540194705Corporate apartments and rent subsidies for niggers is real communist hellscape shit. The only way to do that is be in your 20s and have 3 roommates so you have some backup when you need to beat the nextdoor niggers' pitbull with a baseball bat.
>>540188057Nignight express
Sobering thread. Makes me sick that westerners live this way while housing is literally given to jeets for nothing. Remember this on the day of justice.
>>540195058Walmart parking lot doesn't have an HOA. Checkmate atheists.
>>540196050Id rather live with family than roommates
Vanlifing is just homelessness with a marketing facelift. We have been in a 2nd great depression for years but people wont admit it.
>>540183966if you can't extend your legs out fully then theres a problem. Only a turbo manlet could comfortably sleep in that
>>540183966isn't it illegal in muttland to sleep in your car? vagrancy laws and all that?
>>540184320It's not. That's why the vast majority of people don't do it, and the majority of those who do try it will end the experiment soon enough. Then you're left with the few weirdos and copers who continue to do it for years explaining to everyone how great it is.