Whatever happened to the aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov? Mighty flagship of the Russian navy! Striking fear into the...choking and coughing noises intesify...hearts of NATO ..cough... commanders.
>>540191456They have nuclear-powered icebreakers.Pretty cool IMO
>>540191456is it caring oil, why so much smoke again? Isn’t it better put some more explosives in the drop to actually make some damage? Also nice operators work.
>>540191456Didn't it get scrapped ? Russia's navy has always been ass however they have a nasty submarines that would rape the shit out of NATO shipping.
>>540191630I've been on one in tarkov if that counts
>>540191456NATO don't even have a navy retarded tranny lol
>>540191630Can they launch planes from it?
>>540191456Okay and what usecase does a carrier even have in 2026?
>>540191456>july 2025
>>540192121The Kuznetsov never really had a use case other than as a point of pride for the Soviet Union. The US has to project naval power all over the globe. The Soviets only had to stop ships from transiting the North Atlantic.
>>540191456Anon, warfare has changed to mostly missiles and drones along with small squads of men to capture positions and advance the front. Such large ships are relics of the past. There's a fucking good reason why the US doesn't dare to go past the strait of Hormuz into the Persian Gulf and instead chooses to loiter somewhere around the Arabian Sea. They'd get sunk. Same how Russian ships got sunk in the Nigger Sea and now they're all anchored at ports.
>>540192121couldnt they use it against odessa? couldnt they have used it against syrian rebels?
>>540191973They do. The US is part of NATO. They are currently blocking the world from using iranny ports. Russia doesn't have much of a navy, actually.
>>540193506>blocking the worldthe strait was already closed by iran at that point no?
>>540193492One rocket and its sunk. The planes would get lost by AA
>>540192121You can do things like bomb the shit out of Iran, while staying out of range of there' projectiles, if you have some F/A-18E/F Super Hornets to go along with it. Where are the growler planes that are being used in the war being launched from, that have been integral in this war? Or the F 35 Lightning II? The E-2D Advanced Hawkeye for ISR. Are you retarded? The US couldn't be blocking the entire world from using Iranny ports with out them.
>>540193506Russia has enough subs to glass all of NATO, faggot shill.
>>540191456The dry dock sunk and a crane fell on it so they scrapped it.
>>540192017No. Can a carrier break through arctic ice?
>>540193565Their ports weren't blockaded. Right now, the irannies can't use their own ocean ports. 90% of their oil is offloaded from the kharg island terminal. They aren't being allowed to use it, or any other ports. That's kind of a big deal, when a country can't use it's ocean ports. They can't remotely replicate the amount of import/export commerce with over land means.
>>540191456whatever happened to the uss cvn class like the ford? mighty floating poopship of the us navy? getting swarmed by ghadir and nasir antiship missiles any time they try to project force?
>>540191456>In September 2024, her crew were reassigned to a combat unit engaged in the Russo-Ukrainian war.BAHAHHHAHAHA
>>540191456Rusting at some harbor where they pulled it last time.
>>540191733>is it caring oil, why so much smoke again?one of second line on oil steam system burned through.
>>540193506>>540193506I don't give a fuck what made up victories you are celebrating!Is the Strait of Hormuz open or not?
>>540194455Is that the new Trump class?
>>540194253And they would get glassed as well. What is the stealthiness/quietness comparison between the US' subs and russia's comparison look like? How many nuclear powered super carriers do they have, vs the US? How many destroyers do they have, vs the US destroyers, and what is the quality/combat power level comparison between the two sides' vessels look like? I'll save you the trouble. Russia's a shit, and the US' are not shit. And the US has more. Not to mention, the US has orders of magnitude more carriers of all kinds, to launch it's superior air craft off of. Russia has ONE nuclear power air craft carrier. The US ALONE has a 10 times better navy than russia has.
>>540193268>The Kuznetsov never really had a useretarded message. Kuznetzov was clogging holes in air defense in polar and far east air defense okrugs in the 90s. The Air crews of this ship saw fights with US and UK air-forces. Russians are using their navies for defense, not offense. The ship have seen a lot of training missions.
>>540194851yes, they have mando baal warship once a day after cleaning stations
>>540191630Their icebreakers are nuclear powered, but their aircraft carrier burns creosote.It was a decision that they made, is all I can say.
>>540191456It looks like a piece of shit still running on coal like it's from WW1 LMAO
>>540194707>I don't care that iran has been thoroughly tactically/militarily defeatedNice cope. The US controls who enters the strait or not. Once they are in, the Irannies can disrupt commercial shipping with terror strikes, like the somali pirates can. What they CAN'T do with their navy, is stop the US from banning people from using Iranny ports. And, they can't float over to the US, and launch strikes on our infrastructure, from off of our shore. So your metric for naval vessel utility is>if you can't stop a terrorist attack on commercial shipping, there is no utility in the vesselWow, you'd better get the word out to china, they are wasting a lot of money on war ships.
>>540194253Maybe half of those are serviceable at the best of times and the US has the whole ocean floor covered in hydrophones and other sensors to track them which are probably monitored by AI now.
>>540195397>I don't care if we lost the war against Iran, we lead in every other irrelevant statistic
>gulaghomo>"strong"LMAO
>>540194253Russian submarines are so notoriously noisy that they had to be fitted to fire their missiles from the dock or from a bastion protected by surface units. And every time a Russian missile submarine puts out to sea, it gets shadowed the whole time by a US attack submarine that can sink it within minutes at any point. I'm not Russia hater. But we've got to be honest about their actual capabilities.
>>540194953>retarded messageI should have known better than to correct a brown guy living in Germany. Read a few books. Read up on history. Get back to me, okay?
>>540195471kek
>>540194707Why is it that you think that china allows the US to blockade them from using iranian ports? What's stopping them from doing that? Do you think the carriers might play into that? Might the >power projectionOf the US be slightly increased by the fact that it has the carriers. Might this have>strategic significanceAnd, if there is strategic significance in this power projection capabilities, might the carriers, then, have at least SOME utility? What about, when you want to, say, remove an enemy world leader from a country, and try him for crimes. Then, maybe, take over their oil industry. Would super carriers be helpful in that?
>>540195788Why would China stop you guys expending all your munitions on fishing boats, excavators and mountainsides lmao
>>540195471We didn't lose the war. Hence why iran can't use their own ports. And, super carriers aren't irrelevant, hence why china is building them.
>>540195788Listen budThe Strait was open before you started the war.Now the Strait is closed, despite everything you have been throwing at it, including your precious clogged carriers.You lost the war and the whole world got to see that the emperor wears no clothes.
>>540195978Is the Strait of Hormuz open or not?If not, then you lost. Simple as.
>>540195397>>540195788>replying to the same post again 10 minutes later
>>540194169You gotta prove first that this achieves anything else than burning billions of tax money.
>>540195930>we didn't want the discount oil from Iran anywayThey do want it. They don't do anything exactly because we have the carrier groups. Same reason, at least a large part of it, why we can ban them from taking an island tey want, that's right off of their own coast.Go ahead and call the chink pres and tell him to hold off on the carriers they are building, because terrorists can fire a rocket at commercial ships. See if he listens.
>>540194253It lost two already to Ukraine. Which is hilarious.
>>540191456>Mighty flagship>mightyAnyways the did a smart thing and started scrapping it. They had no need for it other than having one because all of the big boys also have one. And even then the biggest boy isn't having much success using it in a war, and if the premiere naval power can't use them then Russia split across four seas sure as shit can't.
>>540196041I didn't. You're retarded. And so am I, for arguing with brown people on /pol/.
>>540196217>lost 2 dry docked subs in port>only 80 more to go kek
>>540193268this is the only correct answer, the soviets had to have a carrier because the US had carriers, but the strategic purpose of having a carrier doesn’t make sense when your country spans half the globe and allows you to reach pretty much every relevant area of conflict from your own borders.
>>540196311>i didn't do the thing everyone can clearly see that i didBoth those posts are yours. Your ID is visible on both. Both of the posts are replying to the same post. You are a liar.
>>540196331Only one was in dry dock. Do try to get your facts right. This isn't Instagram.
>>540196190Presumably it’s like how you didn’t want the gulf oil since you started this war and can’t finish it or even do anything except impotently bombing civilian targets. Oh well sucks to suck I guess.
