Direct democracy with non-anonymous voting is the only respectable way to pass laws.
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>>540230989Yes, it doesn't scale though because it would require everyone to read every new law in detail.
>>540230989Mobile technology permits near instantaneous direct democracy, and renders most politicians obsolete.
>>540231123>Mobile technologyProgrammed, controlled and maintained by who?
>>540230989jews have more hair on their ass then their head because it's their spiritual actual head... just one of the funny jokes god has about jews
>>540231123That's correct.>>540231046That scales perfectly, UNLESS you are trying to hamfist a bunch of weird shit into the law!! Rules should change as slowly as possible.
>>540230989>Direct democracy with non-anonymous votingSo rule by the largest voting block, women...Brilliant.
>>540230989Mob rule eh.Op is a leftist turd.
>>540231246whoa there slow down. was there a vote to allow women to vote yet?
>>540231174ideally everybody but realistically in the future something brown and/or jews
>>540231247Majority rule*97% of Australians are not part of a mob.
>>540231123But yeah I'd prefer, I think it's called liquid democracy, where you can direct your vote to a representative of your choice like a politician or a family member who votes in your name. You can redirect your vote anytime if a certain decision is very important to you or you disagree with your representative.
>>540230989agreed, however the direct democracy should be within a cultural frameamending current mistakes like freedom of religion and rights to extend only in a cultural framework, this would disallow dual loyalties, foreign influences and practice of foreign religions.as an additional note the only thing represented in a direct democracy is the self, so a complete prohibition on forming parties and mitigating responsibility.lastly all votes should be on single issue bills that work by a you vote for it you pay or it principle.
>>54023098951% majority take away the rights of the 49% minority.
>>540231343So the cities have all the say, and those in the countryside just has to go along huh?Even if what benefits the cities doesnt benefit them?
>>540231307>a vote to allow women to vote Just like they did in the past, you can bank on desperate men to eventually see to that.
>>540231424yes of course. this limits city growth due to occasional culls when cityfolk vote against farmers and food production slows.
>>540231244>That scales perfectlyYou are probably young and don't understand how complicated the real world gets. I was once like you. You will understand it one day.
>>540231349The US House of Representatives is elected every two years, and is supposed to function like that.
>>540231470Lol, what if the farmers quit because they have no say?More government intervention, which is really what you want.Cradle to grave government in everything you do your whole life.
>>540231548it's not complicated. we either have a direct democracy or we have a different system that is less fair.>>540231581people breed when conditions are fit. a government like that would create unfit breeding conditions, allowing better voters to migrant to the region
>>540231562No that's not what I mean. I'm saying that for every individual decision you could vote yourself or you could redirect your vote to any other person to "autovote" when you're busy.All with the press of a button on your smartphone anytime.
>>540231715>it's not complicatedTry reading legislative texts some time. Try reading all new laws passed by a single country.
>>540231780Like an ai assistant!
>>540231715>people breed when conditions are fitAre you ignoring africa and india for a good reason?
>>540231715>a different system that is less fair.It'll eventually devolve into a party system anyways, as it did in all western countries. Organized minority power principles can't be overcome in a democracy. The main issue is that you need a constitution that protects the natives, allows for parties that represent them (unlike in Europe, where Identitarians are practically banned) and doesn't allow for the subjugation of a nation's people to jewish "human rights" bullshit.
>>540231846yeah it's gish gallop and quango obfustication, it isn't laws people need.
>>540231046>>540231244Then make simple laws. Requires insight, and a will to not be a corrupt shart stain.>>540231343Since you posted a beautiful pic, here's my addendum:Why not have random short term delegates, who can be overruled by referendum in every vote? Curbs corruption and stupidity.The trick is to find some law that maps interest of those affected to the strength of the referendum.I got many ideas how to do it, but AI can do that for you, won't type it all.
>>540231899both of those regions have high rainfall and ample sunlight, they're very productive lands. I don't see the problem with simply cutting aid.>>540231913>It'll eventually devolve into a party system anywaysif you vote "yes" or "no" on every new law, we can say somebody who consistently votes "yes" is a progressive, and someone who consistently votes "no" is a conservative.
>>540231931>>540231972>Then make simple lawsIt doesn't scale to all facets of life. Nobody can know all laws. It just wouldn't work.
>>540232013They should have never had aid.Too bad the cultures and people of those aeras are defective.
>>540231846If we all needed to vote on it, a lot less laws would even be proposed, again every vote should be on a single issue thing and not the current package of lawyerspeak mumbo jumbo that is named "the breakfast act, we should all have a full breakfast" but is somehow about sending more arms to israel and adding more chemicals to tapwater
>>540231562But it's a club of double and triple digit multimillionaires, who can only decide to let them eat cake.Election requires massive funding behind the scenes. Massie 2026 has shown that without doubt.
>>540232057>Nobody can know all laws.it works for every other culture
Direct democracy? Okay, go live with the tech bros in one of their various planned utopias.
>>540232152>it works for every other cultureYou don't know all laws of any culture lmao. Also what do you mean by "works"? Are you brown?
>>540232057I for one wouldn't want to have laws for all facets of life. I'd like to have a few that cover things in general, and enable a quick and cheap system for litigation/arbitration.Maybe someone should burn a few tokens to let AI crunch the whole legal body of a country, all one trillion laws, and propose a system of 100 laws that mostly replaces it, with current knowledge of systems and control.
>>540232013>we can say somebody who consistently votes "yes" is a progressiveAssuming the "yes" supports a change. Not every new law is automatically progressive. Think bans on vapes in Singapore, f.i., the progressive approach would be to embrace any new tech and to let it change society however it will. Banning it, conversely, means to maintain the status quo ante, which is inherently conservative.
>>540232152>>540232387>propose a system of 100 lawsThat's ludicrousTell me for example what do you know about waste water treatment laws? What do you know about bankruptcy priority law? I bet you're also an expert in international law.
>>540230989>anons are actually discussing a subject in a serious manner, in a thread posted under a comically hairy ass image
>>540230989least hairy Turkish woman
>>540231581city folk would probably vote for whatever it takes to make the farmers stop whining.
>>540230989Armenian women dot webp
>>540230989you are supposed to use minoxidil on your head not your ass fag
>>540230989do not ever in your life post this again.or that image.
>>540232651Most of the time parliamentarians are pretty clueless about laws too. Not all of then are lawyers.They just look at the political win/loss for their interest group.If you buy a car does one know the engineering behind every part? No, but one can still make a decently informed decision on which car to choose.And the market in general will feel out pretty accurately whether a car is worth its price. This is the wisdom of the crowds
>>540230989If you want people to take your opinions seriously, maybe don't pair them with pictures of Turkish men's bare asses.
>>540230989No. Democracy is retarded. Even women brainwashed by Feminism now realize they don't want anything to do with politics. Voting should be only allowed for people who have a skin in the game. >and I don't mean boomers who are retired. You need to own land or a house, and be tax positive, for example. >I'd abolish IRS and Real Estate taxes altogether as well >the economy is collapsing due to high taxes.
>>540231387>Nooo 56% cannot take away the right of the 13% to get gibs access to the 56%'s spaces.
>>540230989Someone suggested skill-based voting for example doctors can only vote on the matters of medicine, bakers only vote on food matters etc...
how do you shit with an ass that hairy without getting poo all over everything like how do you clean your ass???
>>540230989semites are zesty as fuck
>>540231046That's the point, very few new laws would pass and they would have to be concise, clearly written and popular
>>540236657Then the bakers are going to form a cartel and vote for higher bread prices
>>540231581how about this: what if farm niggers shut the fuck up for once. no votes for farmers at all. your entire existence is subsidized by the people that actually make money so sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up
>>540237102>paper pushers and gender studies BAs produce worth
>>540231715>direct democracy >fair There's nothing fair about two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner
>>540230989That's a hairy ass
>>540230989Direct democravy hivemind you mean
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>>540231046Scales great look at switzerland plus its easy to limit the size of laws. You are just average german with boner for authority.
>>540236967Obviously not pricing, that's the economists domain.
>>540230989>>540231123We just did that and it entered the parliament, the biggest problem that arose is that partitocracy is well established and the parties have captured state mechanisms, the people rely on the parties for their careers and it's all a vicious cycle since you need coalitions with those parties to do anything. And those party mp's behave like this anon said >>540234692>>540231424No, strong local governments are a vital part of democracy, an inherently decentralised system.
>>540232387This poeple can also vote to remove stupid laws.>>540232651>hur dur must trust the experts what do you know about existing clusterfuck of a systemI swear there is no help with szwaby lack of imagination and a slave like adherence to existing system. Sanitation laws have common sense in them its just that brute force conditioning of bureaucrats has brainwashed you in to not thinking for yourself. There are plenty ways to "tehnically respect the law" and cause a big disaster.Laws can also be written in code and reviewed like version controll on git. But i guess thats to advanced we need to hire more bureaucrats and implement more case by case rules. Where will all buisness administration graduates get jobs right hans.
>>540234692Wisdom of the crowds > wisdom of bureaucrats or pupets of oligarchs or both
>>540230989Dude! Don't post your mom's nudes on the internet!! The fuck is wrong with you!?
>>540236657Oh great make everything a cartel like doctors and lawyers. Get arested for baking bread at home because bakers guild has voted you need 100 permits by them for that since ugh safety yes
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>>540238258>that's the economists domain.Then you have more or less a command economy, which didn't work that well in the past
>>540231123With crypto solution you can verify votes. Also if you can empty your whole bank account with e banking thereb is really no argument for voting being dangerous.
>>540231424You can have cantons like switzerland so not all cantons share the same rules. You have federal and state goverment how is that difficult to grasp.Also why the fuck would a city fag want to change your rural laws. He can have all laws he wants in a city.
>>540236906Retarded. A shitton of shitty laws would pass because leftoid influencers would tell the normies what to vote for. Oh and if you don't vote for XYZ like Hasan Piker or its now public knowledge that you're baaaaad.>>540237102Subsidies for farmers are ultimately subsidiso for urbanoid grocery prices, retard. Stop subsidisong farmers and you can enjoy paying the real prices of all the shit you eat. Plus, local farmers wouldnt compete with foreign subsidised farmers and now you're dependant pn potentially hostile foreign nations for food. Retard.
>>540237376>muh two wolfs and a sheepMentaly retarded argument by neoliberal elitist scum. Guess what faggot you have milions of sheep and little wolfs. Curently 1% of wolfs are your representatives . in direct democracy sheep mostly wins. In your system they never win.>hur durr most poeple are wolfIf this is true you would get killed on spot no army or police would protect you it would be like wildest favela x 100.
>>540239314That's funny, I never see the 1% chanting "Eat The Poor".
>>540238769This has more to do with how you define the purpose of the state and how people perceive it.What's the purpose of the state? In the liberal theory it's securing human rights so that people don't overstep their bounds. The problem with that is that you now get a faction of people who have a right to bread, another faction of people who have a right to sell bread as much as they please, and now you got 2 factions lobbying for their own interests because apparently the people were fucktard cannibals to begin with with no friendship. In the classical theory on the other hand, the purpose of the state is to cultivate virtues for the common good, otherwise all you achieve is cementing all the scum in the institutions and destroying them from within.So perhaps we've lost the balance in that regard and have to reconsider what the actual purpose of the state is.
>>540232651>minimalist fundamental laws, personal accountabilityThis confuses and enrages the German. One law to define environmental damages should be enough, probably folded into a broader law of statistical damage. Bankruptcy could be handled by a broader law covering the right of succession, like inheritance and replacement of official status. I'm sure a principle can be found, whether it's a patent & a pack of screws in a bankrupt company, or the compensation for losing a field to a motorway.
>>540240296>In the classical theory on the other hand, the purpose of the state is to cultivate virtues for the common good, otherwise all you achieve is cementing all the scum in the institutions and destroying them from within.I mean in the past this didn't really go beyond hanging criminals and military spending. I don't think it is feasible for the state to achieve this goal beyond the very basics.Considering:>So perhaps we've lost the balance in that regard and have to reconsider what the actual purpose of the state is.I think the state should focus on only a few things, like security for its citizens, and try to do that well. Instead of doing many things badly.
>>540234692>>540238633>>540240852That's a lot of words to avoid just admitting that being a politician and staying informed on upcoming laws is a full-time job. Not every citizen can do that parallel to their actual job.
>>540230989Oh damn, its a Satyr.
>>540230989that pic has to be AI goyslopno human has an ass that fucking hairy, especially when the rest of him is hairless
>>540230989So yall butch ass niggas just post anything on this shithole site, huh? -_-
>>540230989who the fuck is sharing my picture?
>>540241655>That's a lot of words to avoid just admitting that being a politician and staying informed on upcoming laws is a full-time jobYou really don't need to to make a decent judgement of policies. Just like you make judgements in all other aspects of life. In the end politics is about people negotiating for their interests.Experts have their place but not as judges in politics. They are there to analyse, not decide
>>540240986Yeah i agree, just want to point out that i mentioned a lack of balance because there is more overlap between the traditions than often acknowledged, wasn't advocating a or b.Because on one hand friendship between citizens is impossible to cultivate through legislations and state procedures alone, on the other hand we can't guarantee that everyone agrees on our concept of virtue, both have shortcomings. Mind you, there's a hopeful massage in that even if it sounds like a bad conundrum, it ultimately means man has a natural capacity for moral reasoning and conscience that is not attributed to social conditioning, it means the state is not the ultimate source of virtues, stability and mediator of problems, so no matter how bad that shit gets there's always hope.
