It’s a Critical week for preventing the systematic destruction of state animal welfare laws in the United States “the Save Our Bacon Act” It’s a bill that would wipe out most state animal welfare protections outside of egg laying hens, setting back many years of progress. It would force many millions of animals to live brief hellish lives in crates.Today is absolutely essential for stopping it. Iowa Senator Ernst is trying to use sneaky procedural tactics to add it back into the senate version of the Bill. To stop this you should:>Call your senators. Call the Senate Switchboard during business hours and ask to be connected to your Senator’s office. (202) 224-3121. Tell them to vote no on the SOB act or any compromise version.Even better>Go to the in-person offices of your senator and ask for a meeting. Tell them to vote no on SOB or any compromise version. https://www.senate.gov/senators/senators-contact.htmThe language about compromise is especially crucial, because there might be a push for a compromise version of the bill that wouldn’t strike down existing laws but would stop new ones. This would prevent most new progress on animal welfare.The most important senators for this bill are Slotkin and Klobuchar, with Durbin and Bennet close behind. If you’re in Michigan or Minnesota, you’re in the highest-impact position this is the highest impact thing to do. Colorado and Illinois matter a lot too! So if they are your senators, make sure to call and make sure to schedule a meeting. A meeting is a lot more important than a call.The number of people who call over these sorts of bills is small the number who have in-person meetings is smaller still. Thus, by agreeing to call, you can have an enormous expected impact affecting thousands of animals. Especially if you’re in Michigan or Minnesota.
>save our bacon>by making it worseNever change, yankees.
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>>540252224is there any industry in this country that isn't completely satanic? is capitalism inherently evil?
>>540252506Germany is less bad but still has a long way to go mutilations without anesthesia are still explicitly written into the law. The German Animal Welfare Act carves out exemptions for procedures including the docking of tails of piglets under four days old or lambs under eight days old, and the grinding down of corner teeth of piglets if this is indispensable for the protection of the dam and the litter-mates. In practice, this exemption is used heavily as of mid-2026, figures for routine tail docking hit 95% to 100% in top producers like Germany, despite an EU-wide rule in principle against routine docking.Animal Legal & Historical CenterCEPSGestation/farrowing crates: also accurate that sows can currently be confined for weeks at a stretch. Two separate rules are relevant:Individual gestation stalls are permitted for roughly the first four weeks after insemination (an EU-wide allowance Germany follows), before sows must move to group housing.Farrowing crates used to confine a sow through birth and while nursing are still legal under the old system today. Germany's 2020/2021 reform phases this out gradually: breeding units must convert to full group housing with at least 5 m2 of space per sow by February 9, 2029, and from February 9, 2036, farrowing pens with a minimum area of 6.5 m2 and a maximum confinement period of five days will be mandatory. Until those deadlines hit, farms can keep operating under the current rules, meaning a sow can still be crated for the full farrowing/lactation period commonly several weeks right now.
>>540252671donating blood? when you prohibit people from being paid (so they don’t lie and hide about how they fucked a aids having prostitute last week) it’s not too evil
>>540252758The Red Cross sells the donated blood, though.
>>540252812yes but it still goes to those in need The people putting the needle in you can’t be expected to go to college and then work for free
>>540252758It's illegal to get paid for blood here. The organization then sells the products. Also went to court to give a baby vaxxed blood against the family's wishes
>>540252671in effect, no, because they all contribute to civilization in some waycivilization was the worse thing to happen to our species, most people just havent realized this yet
>>540252868No it doesnt. The vast majority of young people blood is used by billionaires for anti aging serums.
>>540252224bros i ate the 4 legged jew againi went to lidl and bought vegan 'cheese' but my mum had cooked lasagna
>>540253156I know that’s true in Germany but in USA it is legal to pay people donating for their blood plasma and then medications and products made from purchased blood plasma are sent to Germany from usa
>>540253432Try and do better in the future Maybe try pouring soda on raw pork so you can watch the parasites crawl out or watch a YouTube video of someone else doing this
>>540253549>Try and do better in the futurewhats the point? dinner is dinner, what do you want me to do chuck it into a field and tell it to moo?
>>540253790If an animal is living a mostly bad life suffering massively in a factory farm and experiencing little wellbeing then its wrong to breed them into existenceIf an animal is living a mostly good life perhaps on a pasture then its wrong to cut their mostly good life short by executing them when theyre a healthy teenagerWhy take a utilitarian view of non humans but take an inalienable rights view towards humansAn individual consumer choosing to purchase or boycott animal products is personally responsible for extra chicks being killed or spared If you are not vegan you are personally causing this to happen to more animals heres proofhttps://philarchive.org/rec/MCMAIOhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=brKhhZlUoOc [Open] Only first few minutes of this video are relevanthttps://benthams.substack.com/p/the-causal-inefficacy-objection-isAnd the comments and back and forth of this for any objections you may have to the efficacy of individual boycott of real meat which have already been debunked https://www.reddit.com/r/DebateAVegan/comments/1otuhqv/individual_boycott_of_meat_does_matter/
>>540252224>not wanting some gaavah with your bacon
>>540254139I’m gonna eat two steaks tonight
>>540253438It should be legal, even if the donor probably gets under 5% of the value. My cousin gives plasma for free, he's a major cuck
>>540254139I’ll start caring about animals once whites stop dropping 2000 lb bombs to murder children that are collecting firewood in Palestine.
>>540254139>An individual consumer choosing to purchaseyes, the food is already bought and cooked
>>540253428A huge amount goes to old people in hospital. It perks them up a while so they don't die in there. A hospital would much rather the person dies at home
>>540252224That’s fucked up, fuck kiles
>>540252224If I was a mutt I would help anon. If there anything else I can do. That doesn't require me to live in the US I'll happily help.
Don't tell me what to do.
>>540252812most of those cost are on maintain the blood viable for transfusions and transport.>t. Inner circle fag
>>540254858not reallyThere was one for eu that allowed non eu responses but that was a long time ago
>>540252224This is definitely an evil thing making people sick. We should support ending these caging practices
>>540254928Duties > muh Rights
>>540254637A lot of the pilots dropping bombs on Iran arent white
>>540252224Someone has had sex with those pigs
>>540255520Other pigs I would assume?
>>540255683I wonder if anyone had recorded how many stds these pigs carry
>>540252224>call your senatorsLaughable that you think they give a shit about your goy phonecall. All they'll do is wipe their ass with your vote and raise your taxes and you'll do nothing about it because you're a dumb fucking cattle taxpayer who is only slightly above the pigs. I hate you spineless canvassing faggots. Fuck your petition and fuck you
>>540255683No. A human jerks the male pig off by hand then takes his semen and puts it into female pig by hand I am not joking It’s called artificial insemination
>>540255856>arrange a meeting
>>540252224Based. Good thread op. Fuck factory farming kikes.
bacon never tastes good. the early 2000 media craze for bacon was because pork is the main vector to transmit parasites. now the main vector is butt sex so they promote that instead
>>540256272Thank you
What’s at stake Sometimes, the operations of factory farms are so wicked that if they were described in a work of fiction, you’d think it was a cartoonish caricature of evil. Perhaps there is no better example of this than gestation crates. Pregnant mother pigs are penned up in tiny crates without enough room to turn around, for many months. Their feces piles up around them, so that these animals with amazing senses of smell must inhale shit all day. They have no source of enjoyment, no ability to live any kind of real life—all they can do is bite the bars of the cage and pine for a freedom that will never come.
>>540256943Why would the farms do this? What could be the point of this cruelty? The main reason is that the industry saves on food costs when their animals don’t move around as much. If you’re kept in a cage where you can’t turn around, you’ll be less active and eat less food. It is cheaper to feed caged prisoners than those who can taste freedom.Pigs are smarter than dogs. They’re playful, social creatures. They can recognize themselves in mirrors, remember information over long time periods, communicate, and even use tools. When you interact with a dog, you notice ways they resemble small children. Pigs are the same way.A pregnant mother pig deserves better than solitary confinement in a crate. If it came out that some demented psychopath was locking dogs for months in cages where they couldn’t turn around and had to dwell in feces non-stop, we’d all call that torture and send them to jail. But this is what the factory farms do to countless pigs for a quick buck. And they’re fighting desperately to override the will of the voters, to keep pigs confined.Across many states—California, Massachusetts, and more—voters passed laws outlawing gestation crates. Voters recognized that stopping the torture of countless pigs mattered more than marginal profit for pork companies. They recognized that there is something deeply twisted and evil about an industry that keeps animals confined like factory products, so that they don’t have to feed them as much. That pigs, as animals, deserve to be treated as individuals, not products.Immediately, the pork industry began scheming, attempting to overrule the will of the voters.
>>540256980They sued, arguing that it was illegal for states to regulate what kind of meat could be sold in their own state, on grounds that this would interfere with activity outside of their state. The case went to the Supreme Court. They lost. Unable to win with either voters or the Supreme Court, they decided to try to get Congress to pass a bill that would destroy state animal welfare laws. To their eternal shame, the House passed the bill. Big ag’s lobbying seemed to be paying off.The provision, euphemistically named the Save Our Bacon Act, was slipped into the farm bill. It wouldn’t just obliterate state protections for pigs that prevent them from being crated. It would prevent states from passing future animal welfare laws that restrict what kind of meat can be sold in their state. It would be the biggest defeat for animals since factory farms were invented.All across the political spectrum, prominent voices have spoken up against this evil bill. Noah Smith says we treat pigs “torture, plain and simple,”Right-wing voices spoke up too. Tomi Lahren interviewed Lewis Bollard and declared, “we don’t actually need to allow Chinese-owned factory farms to jam pigs into crates. The Farm Bill is bullshit. Spread the word.” Mike Cernovich called it “demonic stuff,” and other prominent conservatives described it as an “outrage against God.”Experts in animal behavior have been similarly univocal in their condemnation of the bill. Donald Broom of Cambridge once called this confinement, “much worse than severely beating an animal.” And of course it is—I’d much rather be beaten once than confined in a tiny crate for months. Temple Grandin compared it to having to live your life in an airline seat, without ever being allowed to enter the aisles, even to go to the bathroom. This understates it. At least in an airline seat, you have some form of entertainment, and if you really want to, you can turn around. No such luck for the pigs.
https://donorbox.org/american-meat-producers-associationStand Up for Responsible Farming & Give Family Farmers a Voice in Washington DC!The American Meat Producers Association represents farmers, ranchers, and meat producers across the United States, fighting to protect their livelihoods and preserve the future of American farming. We advocate for policies that promote responsible production, protect fair and open meat markets, and keep family farms thriving. And we push back against legislation that threatens farmers’ independence or stifles healthy competition and diverse markets.Learn more about our work at www.meatproducers.org
>>540252671Inherently, no, but it does by nature attract psychopaths that have zero qualms about crossing every moral event horizon imaginable as long as they profit off it. Absolutely any means of gaining power in any form will always favor and attract such people.
>>540252224This sounds like PETA nonsense designed to make small time farmers go out of business
>>540257340What if we banned psychopaths from being millionaires, politicians, cops, doctors, etc by making people take this test The gold standard for assessing psychopathy is the Hare Psychopathy Checklist-Revised (PCL-R), and its primary defense against cheating is that it is not a self-report questionnaire. Unlike typical psychological tests where respondents can easily tailor their answers, the PCL-R must be administered by a qualified clinician who evaluates an individual using a semi-structured interview paired with an exhaustive audit of third-party collateral data—such as official court/police records, employment history, medical files, and independent reports. Because scoring depends heavily on documented lifetime behavioral patterns rather than what subjects claim about themselves, attempts to fake charm or minimize past actions are easily caught when cross-referenced with hard evidence. Beyond clinical evaluation, physiological and neuroimaging measures—such as tracking involuntary skin conductance, startle reflexes to emotional images, or fMRI brain scans measuring amygdala activity—are virtually impossible to consciously manipulate because they rely on automatic autonomic nervous system responses. Together, verified historical records and unconscious physiological markers make formal psychopathy evaluation exceptionally resistant to deception.
>>540257502It’s literally the opposite It’s multi billion dollar corporations that oppose it you fool >>540257183
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>>540252671Yeah, buddy, it's "capitalism"...
>>540254480Cattle is basically ethical, and has always been more ethical than poultry and pork. All cattle farmers, big or small, have always had a strong economic incentive to make sure that zero cattle die before their scheduled killing. Stark contrast to poultry especially, where farmers regularly dismiss deaths of birds.
