Why do you suck billionaire dick so hard? Why are you against taxing them? Their money can pay for millions' healthcare.Hard mode: you are not allowed to think you'll ever be a billionaire.
>>540259602Many people here actually are billionaires, employed by billionaires, or the nepotistic family members of billionaires.Or, you know, 100 millionaires.The politics here exist to protect the wealthy and powerful with identity politics and jewish scapegoats.
>>540259602wrong board, go to your congress
>>540259712>just become a serf to your feudal lordNo thanks
>>540259761You own most of the united states congress, as fascists, and many of you are actual congressmen.
>>540259828What a completely random comment. Well, anyway, thanks for proving your entire OP was disingenuous and not really intended to be part of an anti-billionaire movement, but just to peddle propaganda intended to misrepresent fascists as being anti-billionaire.
>>540259602You're confused. Most of the people here are actually socialists, they're actually just extremely racist genocidal patriarchal socialists. They'll be like "I don't know how I feel about Marx and Lenin, but Stalin was cool" lol. There are Trumpers here but they're infamous throughout the board and there have been repeated campaigns by other users to kick the Trumpers off this website. If you posted a thread like "Let's lyncg Jeff Bezos" then half the board would be like "Hell yeah niggerfaggot let's do it" lol
>>540259994Your politics, as fascists, exist to protect capitalism from socialism, with jewish scapegoats and identity politics. This is the only thing you exist to do, ultimately. Just to protect capitalism from socialism. No matter how much you kvetch otherwise or post your empty propaganda about how you're not really the politics of pure evil.
>>540259936>>540259864>>540259712Why are you accusing a Mexican of being in bed with the US Government? He's a Mexican. You're the stupid one Billy
>>540259602who else would employ the illegals if we didnt have based maga billionaires like musk and bezos??? did you even think about that??? do you really want hardworking boomers to have to lower the value of their homes??? pathetic white brats are "too good" for stacking 20+ people in 1 house to afford it.gosh, youre reaply gdp-phobic and its quite antisemitic.
>>540260068Very predictable comment here. Completely unimpressive. Completely inane.
>>540260068>>540260133Completely off-topic and unrelated to the point, as well.
>>540259602Because over-taxing billionaires doesn't work. They will just leave the country.
>>540260133You're so smart. I wish mh IQ was as high as yours. Woe is me, I'll never be smart enough to understand Marxist-Intersectionalist Radical Feminist Anarchist Theory :( I'm just a stupid ignorant idiot who doesn't know any better because I'm ignorant and low-IQ
Most anti-immigration people are actually leftists, they have just been abandoned by left wing parties who suck billionaire cock. They vote right because they usually pretend like they'll get immigration under control and immigration is the #1 issue impacting them.
>>540260222No. They don't. But out nation no doubt would be better off with fewer of your precious parasites.
>>540260292You are implying if we tax billionaires 90% they wouldn't leave the country? Are you fucking high?
>>540260257>Marxist-Intersectionalist Radical Feminist Anarchist TheoryThese are your misrepresentations of your leftist political opposition, you fund, which you push in your media, which you peddle through your internet algorithms, which do not reflect that actual points of view of us. And you cannot let go of them, because without this misrepresentation, which you use your control of the entirety of western media to present to the public, then no one would vote for you anymore, ever.
>>540260278OP is a hero. I wish I was as smart and morally pure as OP. Oh well. Guess I'll just have to go drink whiskey with my KKK friends and masturbate into a bucket while crying over my virginity. I'm so stupid and ignorant and evil :(
>>540259602They are taxed. Why are you all such little kids about this?
>>540260360And go where? America is the only place to be. Elon cannot move tesla out of the country faster than we can tax him into oblivion. If we can stop Russian oligarchs from accessing their mega yachts we can stop elon from accessing his.
>>540260360Here's your comment >>540260222, which does not include any reference to any 90% figure, and here's my comment >>540260360. Read them, and respond to what was actually posted instead of making up parts of them which do not exist, then replying to your made-up quotes.
>>540260497>>540260360>Here's your comment >>540260222, which does not include any reference to any 90% figure, and here's my comment >>540260360.>Read them, and respond to what was actually posted instead of making up parts of them which do not exist, then replying to your made-up quotes.Wrong comment was tagged, but whatever, you get the point. What's the point of what you people do here when every one of your responses to people is to comments or quotes which did not come from our mouths?
>>540260467>And go where?Literally anywhere. Since they don't tax billionaires at a stupid high rate.And if America started doing that, America would no longer be "the place to be".
>>540259602Im not the suoerprobillionaire type but you just wanna smoke and drink and not face the consequences of poor choices regarding your health. In short, you want to stuff your face with shakes and burgers and then demand Jeff Bezos buys your blood pressure medicine and blood thinners. This is why Americans cant have universal healthcare, they have no concept of social obligation - neither the billionaire nor you.
>>540260593>This is why Americans cant have universal healthcareWrong. The reason we can't have universal healthcare is niggers.
>>540260577Wow, maybe it wouldn't be collapsing due to the various political and economic woes these billionaires have brought upon us anymore, then.If you ask me, we better just overtly deport them.
>>540260404I would skin Trump and Kamala alive with my bare hands if I had the chance. You're more tribal than me which is why you'll never succeed in your political goals. When we finally get a Communist leader in the USA, and we will, he'll be just as bigoted as Xi Jinping, because the actual proletarians in this country are a bunch of drooling bigots. But you know that, deep inside, which is why you're throwing a temper tantrum on 4chan instead of networking with your local blue-collar laborers. You're in denial of the truth you know deep inside, which is that anti-racism is a white collar viewpoint.
>>540260593"I'm not the super pro billionaire type, but let me tell you why we can't implement the policies which would hurt the billionaires".Am I misrepresenting your comment here? I'm not.
>>540260666So what you want is communism then.No thanks, Satan.
>>540259602if billionaires dont pay taxes, what's the point of raising taxes on billionaires?
>>540260687You're a republican party propagandist, who represent the political establishment of the west, who is trying really hard to paint yourself as anti-establishment with empty edgelord internet rhetoric about murdering the president, as you push establishment western anticommunist propaganda about china and other things.
>>540260754I'm a communist. Yes. I'm a communist. Good observation. That's correct. I'm an extremist, leftist, class-focused, USSR-loving, authoritarian communist.
>>540259602I don't give a fuck about billionaires, you could kill them all for all I care. I don't think we'll ever run out of people like them anyway.But the thing is, since I was a kid, every people I heard saying they were going to tax the billionaires ended up taxraping the middle class instead.So I'm not really fond of people saying "let's tax the billionaire" either.
>>540260803I support the People's Republic of China as much as I can without ending up in prison. I spread pro-Xi propaganda whenever I can. I'm not gonna pretend he's anti-racist or anti-sexist because I'm not a liar. He's a hick, and he's a very well-liked hick.
>>540260855>>540260754What I believe in is class war.
>>540260731You are. You are not admitting thatbyou have absolutely no commitment to your own health. You want some one else, billionaire, millionaire, guy next door, to pay for your things. You demand that which other have greedily hoarded but onky for your own greedy purposes. If you came into money, you'd be so against taxation you'd make Elon Musk look like a social democrat.And I know this because rather than list off public works and public goods that a wealth tax might provide for, younjump straight to healthcare
>>540260855And you deserve to be shot in the head.
>>540259602Because the Left story is as old as time.>>Tax the Billionaires !!and the Billionaires find every loop hole and way to hide their money and move it off shore ( like Apple ) .>>Democrats : OMG we were counting on that money , use the same high rates and laws to , Tax the Millionaires. The Millionaire use the same tricks and the same Tax lawyers etc .>>Democrats :: OMG Loads of Taxable money is gone and We Need it for Immigrant Gay Trans tap dance lessons !!! -- I know -- Tax the Hundredairs !!!!And WE pay those Taxes .. not Billionaires
>>540260855You are aware that Marx criticized Jews, and Stalin criticized feminists and gays, right? You can disagree with Marx and Stalin all you want, there's nothing wrong with being revisionist
>>540260910Once more, you're pretending to be anti-establishment on the internet, in order to make yourself appear cooler and more marketable to younger demographics, while peddling every western anticommunist falsehood about china and xi (in this case, your assertions that communist china is actually fascist, which is a lie we spread about every one of our communist enemies).
>>540259602because millionaire liberals control just as much wealth and consume a hell of a lot more
>>540260467>>540259828>>540259602why does the government need more money?how have they proved they will spend it helping anyone bit itself?
>>540259602if we tax them, they will pack their bags and move to China or russia or some country even Mexicoor they can move to the Cayman islands and or buy an island which doesn't allow US Intervention and then run operations for protective status out of Mexico or other countries. literally its take what you can get from his wealth. he gets taxed just not the high percentage in return for employing the shit out of Americans and Abroad
>>540261015Once more, you're peddling the usual right-wing propaganda of misrepresenting your leftist political opposition as "the real fascists" or whatever. And it's just anticommunist propaganda. And it's just the usual anticommunist propaganda.
>>540259602I think the biggest misconception is universal.If you talk to liberals and more radical socialists, many of them truly believe that without taxing this money from these billionaires then there is literally no money for the government to spend.If you talk to conservatives, they believe that taxing these billionaires is bad because they can spend the money better than the government and they don't want the government to have this money to spend.But, it's all sort of nonsensical, isn't it? After all, if you pull a bill out of your pocket I don't see the billionaires' names or symbols on it. It's not an 'Amazon dollar'. It is a US dollar.The government is the origin of money, as money is a creature of the State and a unit of account; it is not a medium of exchange or a store of value. The government does need to collect tax revenue before it can spend. Rather as the issuer of the currency and everyone else the user of the currency, it must spend its own money unit into existence first before anyone has anything on which they may be taxed.Actual value is derived from *real resources*, which have to be developed, exploited, harvested, finished, educated, constructed, etc. This process is very complex and involves civilizational and cultural institutions, formal education, etc. Money is just keeping score.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mODnz8DnhCQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev2ZqAgblCEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LOwJ2H_hD4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ewr85A7AIshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__e63RaZ-Wwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGhF1jO4ZbM
>>540260731Just a completely childish mindset.
>>540260855you should move to Seattle or San Francisco then, Faggot!
>>540259602>>540259712>>540259761>>540259828>>540259864You are a projecting leftist homosexual.You are spiteful mutant seething with envy at your betters.Everyone deserves what they earn.How much they earn is irrelevant.Moochers deserve nothing
>>540260916Your opposition to universal healthcare, particularly because you're explicitly concerned about the pocketbooks of the wealthy, and your open defenses of billionaires do not really warrant responses, in my opinion.
>>540260755Croatian with a brain? You must be one kf the Serbs there.
>>540261015Karl Marx was baptised because his parents fleed from antisemitism and joined a Lutherine Church however Karl was a Atheist scumbag piece of shit BolshevikI always thought he was against bolshevism or pretended to be. doesn't matter. He was a commie atheist and is probably in hell right now
>>540261284Lol yet you respond..probably with a milkshake in your hand and a blunt burning somewhere nearby.
>>540261194>>540261155>>540261153Just a board of wealthy elitists here, or their nepobaby family members, who post their racist and antisemitic drivel, in their spare time, with the intention of diverting blame for society's problems away from themselves and on to jewish or poor scapegoats.
>>540261396Fuck off nigger.
>>540261348I responded to your comment. Congratulations. I'm understanding from your response this is a momentous occasion for you.
>>540261026You're not engaging in good-faith conversation if you keep accusing other people of lying about what they believe in. Nobody can prove their feelings and emotions to you over the internet.Xi Jinping grew up on a farm. He is on the record as saying that everyone should try working on a farm at some point. There are no women in his national government, he has popularized medieval clothing throughout his country, and he has tried to get women to focus more on making babies. And he calls himself a communist. This is what ALL communists have been like, in practice, since Stalin took power. Your imaginary version of communism that doesn't include bigotry has never existed in real life. Proletarian blue-collar workers across the world are racist and sexist. And they always will be, because they're the ones deepest in the trenches of culture war as it affects their own livelihood (immigrants acting like scabs, women betraying the family to go have sex with scabs). Every successful communist revolution in history has been dominated by xenophobic rednecks.I implore everyone to vote for DSA candidates in 2026 and 2028, sincerely I do, because I know when the Arabs take charge of America they'll turn it into a tankie patriarchy. Vote DSA. Hell, vote AOCIA if she's are best chance. Don't vote Republican ever. That's my viewpoint I'm publicly advocating.I'm done arguing. If you want to roll your eyes at all this and say "republican agent says what" then that's your problem. Have a good day dude. For real.
>>540261194Wealth is unearned in (corporate) feudalism
>>540259602They pay more taxes than you.
>>540261481Again, you're LARPing, falseflagging as a leftist in order to misrepresent us, and the communist nations which you're falsely pretending to promote.
>>540259602Taxing or confiscating 100% of all U.S. billionaire wealth would fund the federal government for roughly 8 to 9 months before the money ran out. so whats your plan for after that happens?
>>540259602paying for retards healthcare creates more retards who need more healthcare
>>540261481>DSA candidatesdick sucking advocates?
>>540261644It came out of your mouth but it went right over your head.If taxing all of the billionaire's money at 100% won't fund the US government for any significant length of time, maybe that should clue you in that that isn't how the US government funds itself.
>>540261396Im not an Antisemite. Im anti Zionist movement. I live in San Francisco area my whole life and one of the few Republicans around where I live. All these new Leftist Gatekeepers are the scummiest fucking people. and oddly enough many of them Jews are anti Israel and Anti Bibi it's all to strengthen their control and make moneythey're not true democrats.
>>540261644People are not suggesting merely that you have to "tax the billionaire to fund the government". If they were, you might have a point. Unfortunately for you, as you're aware, the discussion is much broader.
>>540261731is this meme Zach Galifianakis
>>540261802You're a pro-zionist, and peddler of fake antisemitism. Like everyone else on this board, in your political movement. Anything else you advertise yourself as is an empty advertisement.
>>540261740maybe we should spend less on social programs?
>>540261978If you wanted to spend less on social programs, then you would appropriate all of the resources from the wealthy, end private healthcare, end US anticommunist military imperialism and end landlording. If you did that, then the US would be running a major budget surplus and social programs would hardly be needed. But you don't want to do that, because you're not really concerned about "the deficit" or "the spending" or "the social programs" or any of this other bullshit which you pretend to be concerned about. You exist only for one purpose on /pol/: defending the wealthy from prosecution.
>>540261978You could spend less of whatever you theoretically want -- the government must structurally spend the money into existence for the economy to function. I cannot process how retarded conservatives have to be to actually believe their own dogma. The government is the issuer of the currency. It cannot actually be brought forth into existence for the rest of us, rich or poor, to utilize it until the spending is apportioned in Congress.>but what about private bank money (outside money)Private banks can only create deposits as loans because they have a charter from the government.The government is the sole issuer of that which it demands as payment for taxes. This shit is really not complicated.
>>54026211what is the role of government? the government which governs best governs leasthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs
>>540261644Communists are lying fuckwads. They don't care about tax revenue. They are just maliciously envious cunts and they don't care about how their psychotic revenge schemes harm the working class either.
>>540262234>>540262111whoopsiedoodle
>>540262111The budget deficit is more a product of the trade deficit than a taxation regime. Because currency is a tax credit if the government does not spend to a deficit while the country runs a trade deficit, there becomes nowhere for the private sector to generate a surplus from.
>>540262234Is that me you're trying to respond to? Your belief in "small government" is just a buzzphrase for "privatization". For letting billionaires run everything, privately, without being interefered upon by democracy or the will of the people. You, and everyone like you, deserve to be guillotined in a violent communist revolution.
>>540259602because you choose to trust government over billionaires. the government dont pay my wages but billionaires do
>>540261537No they don't. They borrow from banks using their unrealized assets as collateral and technically live in debt so they don't have to pay taxes.
>>540262310No. The budget deficit is the result of your unwillingness to tax the wealthy, in large part, on top of many other factors all of which stem from you and your corrupt fascist economic policies, particularly the explicit policy capitalism.And our "trade deficit", and offshoring of our manufacturing or whatever else you can think up to move the goalposts towards is all the result of you and your fascist policies, too.
>>540262386>the government dont pay my wages but billionaires doKek, the government is the biggest employer in the nation retard
>>540262386and billionaire wealth is mostly UNREALIZED and tied into investments. they arent running around with a billion in their savings accounts
>>540262529then why dont we tax the government, retard
>>540262345>For letting billionaires run everything, privately, without being interefered upon by democracy or the will of the people. yes! who are you to control your fellow man?
>>540262565
>>540262709Great. Then give up your ownership of your companies, which is granted to you by the government and it's capitalist property law, and quit your exploitation of your workers, which are made possible again by your government's capitalist property law. No? You don't want to do that? Well, I guess that's just another demonstration of your disgusting hypocrisies.
>>540261522Wrong, little parasite.
>>540262475No, it isn't. Here with someone coming from the left who doesn't understand what money in contrast to the retarded right wingers mostly populating this thread.This poster does not understand what sectoral balances are. Like you try to explain this to people and it's so simple and they just. refuse. to. understand.If the government is the issuer of the currency then the government needs to spend first before anyone else can have money.The private sector is running a trade deficit with the rest of the world, they cannot generate a surplus from the rest of the world. Right? You understand this?So the only way for the private sector, in this scenario, to generate a surplus (and this includes the billionaires, this is the private sector as a whole) is if the government is spending the money. If the government is not doing this, where can the private sector generate its surplus from? It can't generate a surplus because the only place it can source the tax credits (currency) it needs to pay taxes is private bank credit (which carries interest) or drawing down from existing savings.Money mechanics are really not that hard, guys. Stop and think for two minutes.
>>540261396Communism lost.You will never be a revolutionary.You will never be a commissar.You will never be a dictator.
>>540262715way to miss the point. government is untaxable and according to you the largest employer but is that actually true? they hand out contracts to the private sector and who are not under direct payroll.your solution is TAX MOAR BILLIONAIRE like that's gonna solve anything. DA GOVMINT WILL GIVE ME BILLIONAIRES MONEY FOR REAL
Can you fucks stop responding to the commie troll?
>>540262820Give up all of your fucking government's capitalist property laws then, which make your private empires possible. Which protect them for you. Which police them for you. You don't want to do that? Then no one wants to hear you portraying your policies as based upon "peacefulness, liberty, mutual consent....the most infamous one, 'freedom'" or any of your other bumper sticker buzzword bullshit.
>>540262820>implying we live in a free market that isn't entrenched in monopolies and corporate protectionism enacted by the unipartyGood goy
>>540259602.>Why don't you tax these people?Rich people earned it. It's not anyone's fault someone made such poor decisions. Accountability first.
>>540262874This huge wall of text which you wrote to defend your precious billionaires from taxation, is all predicated upon you pretending not to understand the basic concept of "more than 1 thing contributes to a cause". Unfathomable.
all the government does is redistribute the money after collecting it with taxes. they redistribute it back to the corporations anyway, but ones they pick, you frickin idiot.how does TAX MOAR BILLIONAIRE help the worker? it harms them because their wages and benefits take a cut
>>540262795you sound mad, son. i freely choose to associate with the companies i own, and property laws have been a thing since the code of Hammurabi
>>540259602Have you ever met any government bureaucrat? Let‘s just say that Jeff Bezos did more good to my life than Obama, Biden and AOC together
>>540262905Do you not understand that everyone in the military is employed by the government? That is before we get into the endless number of admins, politicians, NSA desk jockeys, FBI, CIA, ATF. All of those people work for the government. I am not talking about contracted work. They also pay income tax.
>>540259864I am a Midwestern Fascist SenatorAMA
>>540259602Billionaires have never had less power. The government made Jeff Bezos give half his money to his ex wife. The regime trooned out Elon Musk's son. And you're trying to tell me these people are all powerful? Henry VIII murdered his ex wives, would have beaten a gay son to death, and finished off the day fucking a 14 year old.
>>540262993what if we conceed to you and give you 100% of billionaire wealth? whats the plan?
>>540263103i like the military - they have the biggest budget around. so you want to tax billionaires for a bigger military? i can respect it, but dont wrap that under - TAX THE BILLIONAIRE TO PAY FOR GOODS AND SERVICES FOR THE COMMON MAN because that shit is plain wrong.
>>540263005Well, there you go, your rhetoric is gross hypocrisy, which you obviously do not buy into yourself.>i freely choose to associate with the companies i ownLike I wrote above, in multiple instances, this board is for wealthy people to post racism and jewish scapegoats, which is designed to divert public attention on to the poor, and away from the people who are actually causing every real problem: the wealthy.
>>540263175Lol right fuck the Everyman!! Billionaires can do it without them!!
>>540263223most americans own stocks, if only in a retirement account
>>540259602>you are not allowed to think you'll ever be a billionaireAh, but you are mistaken, dear fellow.The average Amerishart is a temporarily embarrassed billionaire, waiting to win the lottery and take his rightful place at the table.It is only a matter of time and, until then, he will protect his future privileges.
>>540262989>Rich people earned itBullshit. You can earn your way into middle class, upper even if you're lucky and/or good at your job. But the megawealthy were born into it. Elon did not start from nothing. Nor Musk, nor Ellison, nor the rest of them.And each of them made their wealth in an ecosystem where there was a government to foster it. Time to pay their share
>>540262993I don't care if the billionaires are taxed are not. There are plenty of good reasons to tax them.Doing it because you need the revenue or because you think it will eliminate the deficit are not those reasons. Again, you just don't understand money. You clearly don't want to understand money. Frankly, you sound like Sean Hannity. You clearly believe the money must "come from somewhere" and you can't be educated beyond that. Further evidence is wasted on you, so this is for anyone else in the thread who might be interested.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql0OFY7W3Qs
>>540263139If billionaires were in control, Jeff's ex wife would have been killed in a hiking accident or institutionalized as a nutcase, with none of his money takenYet the DSA mouth reathers here, envious that they are not the billionaires will REEREEEEEEEEEEEE all the day longI wish we lived in the world these DSA cheese dicks say we live in.A national socialist state actively rising the USA of all the dirtbag leftists, kikes, and niggers BY ANY MEANS AVAILABLE AND NECESSARY God, that would be so much fun
>>540263002The government does not redistribute tax money. It deletes it.
>>540263223The people causing problems are the wealthy communists who live in gated communities away from the filth they create.
>>540263240the premise of taxing billionaires = helping the everyman is pants on head wrong.taxing billionaires = helping the government. the government will spend it as they see fit, on military or USAID which did fuck all except throw our money away for bullshit.do you understand now? taxing billionaires = more government money =/= more money that result in benefits for the everyman. depending on who is in charge, tons of tax money gets wasted and funneled back into private accounts.
>>540263316clearly the answer is to allow the gov to inflate our currency even harder
>>540263330Jeff Bezos truly is a cuck. I feel like Russian billionaire would probably ice his wife in an "accident". Elon Musk honestly should hire some nigger with shitcoins to rape and murder his fag son.
>>540263330>Anon obsessing over Jeff Bezos wife replying to himselfKek! This place is like a mental institution and I ran into my third Napoleon.
>>540263412This is true but you need to drop the memeflag if you want people to take you seriously.
>>540263493memeflag stays - thats fine, you acknowledged the point and thats all i cared about
>>540263412No matter how many times you tell people, they will never understand it. Understanding it upends the way they think, it eliminates the stupid arguments and talking points they have honed over years.The. Government. Does. Not. Need. Money. From. You.It's not your fucking name on the money.
>>540259602You are a nigger.
>>540263412Your full of shit and won't show your flag. I consider you a retarded faggot no matter how much you try to explain your delusional theory for fuck sake you forgot the government employs people.
>>540261927You have reading comprehension issues. I specifically stated I am not Pro Zionist. I said Im not an antisemite and that I was an anti Zionist movement. Not anti Zion but the movement.you should take your medsADHD is not your friend
Tyrone needs more section 8 housing. lets throw tax money at private builders, pay their rent, and the builders pocket the profit.in New York, the private builders will be friends of mamdani after he seizes property from the billionaires.youre basically taking a stance where the government takes money from competent people and gives it to their friends to do a worse job.
>>540259712You have never proven your conspiracy theory that the republican party promotes racism and antisemitism in all your millions of posts. Sad
>>540263454Dr. Richard Werner has already done empirical studies on this and definitively proved that the quantity of credit/money in existence is almost irrelevant to inflationary pressure as opposed to how that money channels (what and where it is spent). If the money is just circulating around and around bidding up existing assets, you will have inflationary pressure. If the money is created towards generating additional assets and increased supply, or to reducing consumption in other areas or productive processes, or is used to pay down private sector debt, this will have deflationary tendencies. This is why prices keep trending down in China despite record money creation.
>>540262280You unfortunantly can't convince them of htisthey're currently trying to get minimum wage up to 30 an hour in Bay Area counties. I agree this would help however you can't force laws to jump from 17 an hour to 30. it would cause small business to fold overnight. and big companies will cut peoples jobs to 24 hours a week so they dont have to pay for insurance and then make people work twice as hard or fail their work scores and fire them
>>540263597whats delusional about it? before the cuts, USAID was throwing millions at a few people for gender awareness schooling in tibet and uganda. government spending is full of wasteful bullshit spending wrapped in little social equity labels like that, or was, before President Trump.if you flat out said - tax the billionaires for a better military, we need it, i would respect it.
>>540263805>Let me spew false conservative propaganda to prove my pointFuck off meme flag faggot you think government is just here to harm your precious values because you are a brainwashed kike and a coward.
>>540259602The problem is enforcement. Billionaires already classify under the highest bracket of 40%. But they just don't pay it. What difference does it make if you raise his taxes from 40% to 60%, if he's currently paying 1%? If you raise it to 60% he's still only going to pay 1%. What exactly is your suggestion for how to fix this problem? Do you even have any serious ideas or are you just going to joke and pretend you don't understand the question?
>>540263937obamacare. they forced everyone who is full time employed to get healthcare or face a tax. what happened - premiums went up. a direct result of more taxes and interference by the government harming the everyman.now you want to tax billionaires as a tax first, see later policy, and i see this nation running on fumes and some retards who want to crash the system into the ground.fuck off to communist new york if you love taxing the wealthy so much - go live with your fellow bums and see how good life is
>>540263957thats a separate point. billionaires have their wealth in unrealized assets meaning its on paper and not liquid billions in their bank account.people who want to "tax the billionaires!" mean they want to tax unrealized assets which will flash crash the market. communists are poor fuckin retards
>>540264086>ObamacareYou showed your cards there, I bet you have fox news on 24/7 behind you right now so fucking brain dead. Obama Derangement Syndrome?>Still a meme flagCoward
>>540260360Billionaires pay 1% in taxes. Raising their tax rate to 90% means they will still pay 1% in taxes. Changing the nominal rate is meaningless. The problem is enforcement.
>>540264200yeah fuck obama and his socialism.
for democrats, raising taxes on billionaires just means>we want to control your money on policies we deem correct.communists are trading merit capitalism for cronyism. socialists are gonna spend tax money on their programs and guess what - it will be their private or familys or friend's bank accounts that recieve the contract money for whatever crackpot program they push under the name of the everyman.basically - you're a fucking retard if you are a communist because you are trusting politicians over billionaires.
>>540259602all taxes are going to things that hurt you, and the people who have all the money don't deserve it. I'm saying that as a matter of fact not a point of contention. Consider that American students who were given the technological edge over all others since the 60's pioneered all of the things their companies bleed you dry with using funding through the government. tldr; the question you have only gives more power to a broken and dysfunctional system. You should at least consider the fact none of them should be a billionaire anyways since there is so many people who do 100x the work and have nothing.
at least with billionaires, i know i can work for them and recieve a pay check. same with government, but the government who employs people are the not the same politicians who decide how to spend tax money - that is congress
>>540259602>Why do you suck billionaire dick so hard?Hey, membe when leftoids worshiped Elon Musk going so far as to call him a IRL Tony Stark. I member.
look at michigan - they vote somalian bulbhead muslims who didnt live here 20 years ago - check their birth certificates, they are NOT us born citizens.who let these people in? obama
>>540259602Why are you so obsessed with taxing people instead of abolishing the irs and federal reserve. Only boot lickers want taxes.
>>540264175>people who want to "tax the billionaires!" meanI doubt that. Pic related is more likely. I have more respect for people who want change, but who admit they don't know how. Because those who claim to have answers are usually shockingly ignorant.
>>540264866>instead of abolishing the irs and federal reserveI'd rather they deport all browns first. That's the biggest problem in America.
>>540264950he said, from poland, over American matters, to a man who wants to stop further enshittening of America.
>>540264866this is "satire" from communists, this is supposed to be mocking ignorant conservatives but it is made with zero understanding of finance and economics and the overall macro relationship
>>540265065Said the guy most likely posting from India or Israel.
>>540259602They can evade taxation. It will only affect their lower competition so their monopolies get even bigger. Fuck more taxation. CONFISCATE THEIR WEALTH. LIQUIDATE THEM. Anything short of that is a waste of time or even more damaging than the current situation.
>>540259602Because it triggers you lefties so hard
>>540265223>hes indian or from israel!about the only thing i agree with the left on - the poo golems. as for Israel - they were long before and during the golden age of America began.somalians and muslims? nope - those groups are recent, thanks obama. yet we see them everywhere in politics now
>>540265242>seize their wealth! the government will provide!the ignorance of communists does not cease to amaze me every day
>>540265309I'm talking about you retard.You are indian or israeli.
>>540265389>i was talking about you!no.shit.sherlock.is this the fabled communist iq?
>>540265439>he hates memeflaggots>he must be commieSure showing that indian 80IQ.
>>540265065I don't get it.
>>540259602What race gets the healthcare
>>540265491>first point is complete jibberish>second point is somewhat cognizant>>540265497>completely fails to grasp the pointsimply - you live in poland and have no interest in the well being of America, other than to see more harm befall this nation. only a genuine American retard would trust your takes
>>540265624Confirmed jeet.
>>540265699yep. bottom 50% bums want more handouts.>>540265718confirmed dumbass - not taking off the flag
>>540262976>monopoliesSuch as? What fraction of companies are government-enforced "monopolies"?Stupid faggot.
>>540263306Wrong, envious faggot parasite.>Time to pay their shareSo you support lowering taxes for the rich.
>>540265345>I have no counter argument but I'm madok
>>540262939Kill yourself, commie rat
>>540265806You must be a newfag.>All memeflags are indian until proven to be israeli
>>540265902>arguing against a false comparison as if legitimate>okok
>>540265926>calls me a newfag>posts a "rule" from at best is a year or two old, topsok newfagt. 2005 btardthat means i was posting on /new/ before /pol/ was ever created
>>540266099>t. 2005 btardYeah right.
>>540266192>doesnt believe mekek
>>540266208Next time you lie about when you started browsing, make it believable.
>>540266296>you're lying!kekkk
>>540259602it's not that I simp for billionaires it's that I hate communists and socialists like you wouldn't believe and I see through their bullshit and I can see that, morally, stealing money from a billionaire is still just thefttotalcommiedeathno exceptions
I'm going to be honest the moment democrats win I'm quitting my job to get back on gibs. It was fun to own the libs but trump made getting gibs harder. It's really not fun working so I'm all for taxing the rich so I can play video games all day while smoking weed.
>>540266599Jokes on you, democrats are never winning again.
>>540266599I got on gibs recently and its not that hard. My government gibs doctor even offered to put me on disability so I can grift more gibs.
>>540259602>Play my game according to my rulesNah I won't. Your suffering does not bother me. >America is the only place to beFor someone who hates MAGA, that was a very MAGA answer.
>>540259602You the same faggots that were shilling against tariffs?
>>540259602canada health carewhen you got to sure for wait timeshttps://theccf.ca/kidscantaffordtowait/
>>540263286Your mask slipped right off, anon, then you immediately worked to put it back on. Nothing more to write about this previous exchange.
>>540259602>want to tax billionaires>elect socialist leader>billionaires have already fled country>tax working class instead>subsidize companies of billionairesWorks every time
>>540263388"Wealthy communists" LMFAO. Communism is a philosophy of class war against the wealthy. Your claim that "the wealthy are communists" fundamentally makes no sense. The wealthy, who make their money and achieve their power through the private ownership of the means of production, capitalism. In a nation which does not even have basic leftist policies, proper representation of leftist politics anywhere. In a nation which has been at war with communism all over the world, everywhere it exists, whilst funding your fascist politics in the world everywhere.Fuck you. Fuck your aversion to basic facts on this website. Fuck your counterfactual inversion of literally every fact about this world in order to propagandize and misinform the public.
>>540266987one involves increasing prices on products people use on a daily basis, the others involves you swallowing loads of billionaire cum. can you rationally explain why you defend billionaires when you are not one?>iz da slippy slope dey cum for my $32k a year salaryy nex!!
>>540267313Maybe you just need to GTFO commie.
>>540262455They literally do. You don't pay any taxes. You shouldn't even be allowed to vote.
>>540267426You're a fucking retard
Outline an exact plan on taxing only the top .1% earners without also raising taxes on the middle class nor allowing taxes to be passed down to consumers.And show how it would be different from any other attempt in the past to have done so but ended up raising taxes on middle income workers instead.
>>540259602Why do you suck government dick so hard? You thought YOU were going to get some of that money?
>>540268881Communists are the biggest retards in all of history. You throw a bloody revolution to get into power and you massacre yourselves in the hundreds of millions.Every time. No one kills more communists than communists.
>>540269464is the communist in the room with us right now?better yet, what communists are you talking about that make a tangible difference in your life?how do you get people to wake up to their strawmens, i wonder.
>>540269558>it doesn't affect you so it doesn't matter that were murder people en masse
>>540269643precisely there is no communism in the US. it's the boogeyman-word elites like to throw around when their power is being threatened, power you don't wield. what is currently becoming popular is socialism. the political ideology where we take care of the vulnerable and allow free markets to exist in tandem. sort of like how the US currently works, except with a little more empathy.suicidal empathy is code word for "the goyim are waking up from their programming and no longer under our control."
>>540269464Communism is 40 years dead and shrieking about it as a credibility enhancing display stopped working a long time ago. Nobody is impressed anymore, old dying faggot.
>>540269856>what is currently becoming popular is socialismSo communism spelled differently. Right.
>>540269558You are a dissimulating, lying commie shitbrick.
>>540269971you're not white pajeet.
>>540269971Ok Gukpreet Schmegmeesh
>>540259602>Why do you suck billionaire dick so hard? I do?>Why are you against taxing them?I am?
I don't mind people being billionaires and having lots of wealth, but the place I work brings in 1.3 million dollars a WEEK and they won't hire one or two more people that would be making 30-40k a year and would make things run so much more smoothly.