[a / b / c / d / e / f / g / gif / h / hr / k / m / o / p / s / t / u / v / vg / vm / vmg / vr / vrpg / vst / w / wg] [i / ic] [r9k / s4s / vip] [cm / hm / lgbt / y] [3 / aco / adv / an / bant / biz / cgl / ck / co / diy / fa / fit / gd / hc / his / int / jp / lit / mlp / mu / n / news / out / po / pol / pw / qst / sci / soc / sp / tg / toy / trv / tv / vp / vt / wsg / wsr / x / xs] [Settings] [Search] [Mobile] [Home]
Board
Settings Mobile Home
/pol/ - Politically Incorrect

Name
Options
Comment
Verification
4chan Pass users can bypass this verification. [Learn More] [Login]
Flag
File
  • Please read the Rules and FAQ before posting.

08/21/20New boards added: /vrpg/, /vmg/, /vst/ and /vm/
05/04/17New trial board added: /bant/ - International/Random
10/04/16New board for 4chan Pass users: /vip/ - Very Important Posts
[Hide] [Show All]


Janitor acceptance emails will be sent out over the coming weeks. Make sure to check your spam folder!


[Advertise on 4chan]


File: 1785837134398885.jpg (167 KB, 1206x1603)
167 KB JPG
Why are women far more liberal than men?
>>
>>540265898
mid
>>
cobain yourself chuddy
>>
>>540265898
The real answer is a combination of an absent father figure, lack of understanding of how social relationships and the world work and finally a good dosage of fantastical thinking almost leaning into mental illness
>>
We're stronger, more intelligent, we don't sit on our ass all day and bitch, we are action in motion. you fly over state hicks deserve nothing
>>
>>540265898
Because they are weak. Simple as.
>>
OP pic makes me sad
>>
>>540265898
Does liberalism promise to put men over women? No.
Does liberalism promise to put women over men? Yes.

That's all the reason you need
>>
Misguided sense of empathy. They view everything including dangerous immigrants as a distressed child that needs mothering.
>>
>>540265898
Because they are net recipients of gibs. People who collect sinecures and welfare from the government are naturally going to vote for more government.
>>
>>540265985
It's amazing how masculine women are now.
>>
>>540265898
This is pedophilia
>>
>>540265898
Because they're retarded
>>
>>540265898
that porn is amazing.
>>
>>540265978
You mean marry a BPDemon so she hires a hitman to murder you?
>>
>>540266183
They are only masculine in the most superficial of ways, they absorbed the worst things of men and ditched the best things of women.
I think that is the problem for most people, the average person is too stupid to see through appeareances and the surface image of things and people, they can only mimic things they don't understand the internal processes of.
>>
>>540265898
Society shields them from the consequences of their actions and decisions.
>>
>>540265898
They aren't. They just follow whatever is most popular. Women voted for Hitler as much as men, despite the fact that he openly planned to nuke their rights lol

In the UK, women voted for the Conservative Party at a higher rate than men did.
>>
>>540266152
They don't give a flying shit about immigroids. All they know is that liberalism takes men's money and gives it to them
>>
File: 1770587646470843.jpg (48 KB, 640x640)
48 KB JPG
>>540266290
giwtwm
>>
>>540266483
>women voted
Women used to vote*
>>
>>540265898
higher intelligence
>>
>>540265898
>exist
>get showered in gifts and benevolence
>couldn't fathom the brutality of building the world they live in
>...
>thinks life is just receiving things for existing
not a mystery
>>
1pbtid daily incel bitching b8 thread
>inb4 2pbtid replying to this
>>
>>540265898
Sexism, racism, and entitlement of right wingers. Assholes don't get to have a family. They dont want hateful children.
/pol is a psyop to stop your genes Incel is a choice thank you for making it.
>>
>>540265898
they lack critical thinking skills
>>
>>540265898
Women are conformists, it is how they evolved. Liberalism is today’s safe option as it is the ideology that is most accepted by the powerful institutions and governments that run western civilization.

Women who are not liberals often belong to social networks or have fathers that are a more powerful influence on them then the outside world and so are not liberal but only because they are conforming with their own group as it is a stronger influence than the outside group. This is a minority of women as boomers were taught that “influencing” was grooming and it is better to let their children come to their own mind about things which is in essence just letting their children come state shape their worldview
>>
>>540265898
Because they're retarded.
>>
File: IMG_1091.jpg (191 KB, 750x753)
191 KB JPG
>>540265898
Liberalism/communism
speaks to weak disgenic people
>>
>>540266526
2010 the first election where proportionally more men voted Conservative than women. If women had never had the vote, the Conservatives wouldn't have won a single election 1945-2010.

There are reasons for this.

First is that during WW2 by 1943 citizen soldiers had had enough. Germany couldn't possibly threaten Britain by that point so the old 'new jerusalem' promises had to be made ("beveridge report" and something called "british way and purpose" were given to all fighting men). The Tories, as they had in the 1st world war, were going to cheat them but Atlee won and Churchill lost. Women didn't obviously receive this material.

Americans seem to think that this was very ungrateful in 1945, I don't think they understand we had a government of national unity by then, Atlee was the deputy prime minister, dominions minister and lord president. The lord president doesn't matter today at all (I doubt anyone could name the present incumbent) but at the time it meant he was basically the PM for domestic and imperial purposes while Churchill ran the war itself.

Second, Labour politics in the 20th century was mainly about safety at work in mines, steel foundries etc. Women were quite happy to trade tax cuts for that as it didn't affect them.
>>
File: 1605443333774.png (398 KB, 647x608)
398 KB PNG
>>540266033
>>
>>540266152
This.

>>540266500
True, but if they prioritized money over the urge to mother things they'd demand all the gibs me dat niggers be executed for taking theirs.
>>
>>540265898
Because women are faggots.
>>
>>540265898
AI slop. It's impossible for her to stay upright like that without falling. Her center of gravity is too far back and you're all faggots.
>>
>>540266805
Been on 4chinz for 20 years. Love Hitler. Wife was a communist more or less when I met her. Now she's prowhite and we have three kids.

What you have is a skill issue.
>>
>>540266418
That behavior is clear with immigrants in America as they act niggerish to emulate the dominate culture they see.
>>
>>540266033
Starve without us, you stupid shitskin.
>>
>>540265978
That's your job troony
>>
If you want a serious answer women have been more liberal since the 70s because of contraception and particularly abortion.

This didn't use to be a problem as conservatives in the UK ('high church') and the US (protestants) were generally OK with it. Opposition was on the left because that was where Catholics and what we'd call 'non-conformists' were.

Because of that Frank Schaeffer's film, conservatives completely changed their position relatively quickly, women ceased to be conservatives and became liberals.

If you want women to vote for conservatives just go back to where you were on abortion in say 1977. But of course this is the last thing that will ever happen. It has nothing to do with empathy etc. that is just cope. Men are selfish, women are selfish, thats it.
>>
>>540265898

Why are you a bot
>>
Atleast i have youtube videos and /pol/
>>
>>540266197
shut the fuck up you fat sow.
>>
>>540267160
You're wrong in that women's urge to be the postergirl of ANY approved social cause has anything to do with motherhood ( I highly doubt that women desire being mothers at all, they're chosing not to have children)
They just see these causes as a vehicle for their personal brand PR.
This is why they only care about things that the corporate world cares about
>>
>>540265898
Are they?
>>
>>540267307
Its happening everywhere all at the same time, its the reason why the entire world is getting culturally homgenized into Americanisms and degeneracy and mental illness coming out of the USA, it spreads like a disease through the comms and turns normal people, both men and woman into subhumans
>>
>>540267547
Helping niggers is the exact opposite of making yourself wealthy. It literally directs money from the men in your society to dark ooga booga men. Not to women. Its actually quite cucked.
>>
>>540267547
They’re not choosing to not have children. Most white women prefer not to have children out of wedlock. They can’t get a man to commit.
>>
>>540267422
US-centric take. Women support liberalism because it gives them men's money and gives them legal privileges
>>
>>540265898
Because liberalism is a feminine ideology that seems to be provided for. It's tools are passivity, gaslighting, subversion. It requires your participation and acquiescence to be effective. It also needs your support and cooperation to enforce. It is the deferral of personal responsibility (conservatism), and accountability (masculinity).

With this ideology they can fuck whoever they want, birth or abort whoever they want, and you, the provider, must pay for it (be accountable) lest the cooperators (the state - men) threaten to do violence upon you.

It enjoys all of your capacity and power via proxy and has no expectation of intellect or principle. It is not burdened by accountability, and enjoys every privilege. It is the life of child lived as an adult.

Wouldn't you want that?
>>
>>540265898
Limited exposure to consequences of decisions made for poor or faulty reasoning.
>>
>>540267727
Beyond retarded. Most women under 35 yo don't have children or plan to do so.
>>540267680
Women see giving part of men's money to niggers as a lesser evil if they get the lions share
>>
>>540267994
They’re also not married.
>>
>>540267994
Yeah, but thats retarded. If money is the goal, then this ensures they will have none.
>>
File: we.gif (864 KB, 220x160)
864 KB GIF
>>540266033
>we
>>
>>540268042
Women don't want to get married. The state will give them men's money regardless
>>540268055
As an argie put it out the other day: "women don't care if it ends with the sharia if they can get 50 years of being a shameless slut"
They're completely hedonistic and self-centered.
>>
They virtue signal more. Do not want to be on peoples bad sides or attacked
>>
>>540265898
They were selectively bred for submission throughout the course of history. Whenever a tribe defeated a rival tribe, the men were killed off and the women were taken in as breeding material. The women who refused were killed and the women who submitted got to live. Over time it became instinctual to submit to whatever dominating tribe for survival purposes. This carries over to modern times when it comes to social situations where not going with the popular opinion triggers old cave woman survival instincts.
>>
i miss my super short ex-girlfriend that i could carry around the apartment while fucking, especially to the kitchen to get a drink
>>
>>540268200
Lol, I wrote that. Its true though, women are so profoundly harebrained they cannot think even 5 or 10 years into the future. Its not for nothing that no civilization ruled by women has survived.
>>
>>540267891
Women will align with whatever cause serves their interests. If you want to oppose immigration, you have to a pro-abortion anti-immigrant party.
Women will support hyper-capitalism or communism just depending which gives them the most money, but that isn't a surprise. In growing post-war economies that preferred tax cuts, now they'd like to have taxes spent on them, but that is just common sense honestly. I mean, boomers as a group are exactly the same - in the UK the "greed is good" Thatcherites demanded triple-locked bumper pensions they never paid for.
>>
>>540266227
This is the correct answer.
>>
>>540267020
Xavier renegade angel lookin bitch
>>
>>540268200
The younger generations are having less sex.

Again, supporting nigger policies runs counter to what you're proposing. It lowers access to entertainment and hedonism simply because those things require a safe environment. Further its diminished by inflation that occurs when you enact these pronigger policies.

They're doing this because they want to nurture something. Men are supposed to temper a womans inclination to this behavior. Either by getting them pregnant or keeping them out of politics or both.
>>
>>540268420
No, you have to stop giving a shit about women's opinions, and democracy.
You can't vote this problem out. Even less try to bribe hostile women that are too comfy with the current thing at the expenses of the few men who are your only true supporters.
You either have the resolution to end liberal democracy by whatever means necessary or this problem will only become worse.
>>
>>540265898
someone who has grok imagine please do this prompt, i am but a poorfag:
make him eat her as if she were one of those realistic cake creations seen on social media
>>
>>540268644
No, they can't give less of a shit about niggers themselves. Want to "nurture" something? Guess what the fur babies are for?
You don't really understand it but women see gayniggertranny issues and feminism as one common struggle to leech from the white man.
Have you learned nothing from seeing the sentence women and minorities over and over in state/corpo propaganda?
>>
>>540266197
How? She’s 27
>>
>>540268800
If women didn't behave the way they do and wanted to put themselves first, they'd be natsoc. Caring for niggers or faggots or niggerfaggots undermines the resources they get access to.
>>
>>540266197
Veryjoywitz, stop projecting your fantasies.
>>
>>540265898
Because conservatism means less freedom for women. People inherently want freedom.
>>
>>540265898
Simple, they're treated like children and however still get the vote. So they don't think about anything long term. They only think what makes them look good in front of others. Especially if it does nothing to them.
>>
Women want to do whatever they want without any restriction, with nothing off limits. They would make murder legal if they could. Women are the chaos element in Mankind's story, they are a natural destructive force that men must account for and manage, no different from a Tsunami or wildfire.
>>
>>540265898
they are easily swayed by emotions and leftists appeal to emotions over logic
>>
>>540265898
That's my type of women
>>
>>540270017
No, because natsocs expect them to live a healthy, structured life and cuntoids would rather eat a sack of needles
>>
Any issue involving women can be boiled down to: "Women act like children"
I was reading something about the Anabaptists, and the first thing the women did when the revolutionaries took over a town there was to take off their clothes and start rolling around in the mud like pigs. Apparently, in their minds, doing that was a good idea for some reason lol
>>
women have no honor
>>
>>540270156
>Because conservatism means less freedom for women. People inherently want freedom.
You can tell a woman posted this because she can't reason past the first premise that freedom is a virtue - freedoms without restraint is anarchy, which destroys all freedom because the weak will be oppressed by the strong, therefore for freedoms to be preserved, there must be an adherence to law and order - consequences. to aspire to freedom without responsibility is the mindset of a common criminal.
>>
>>540270633
Women see slavery to vice as freedom
>>
>>540265898
Smaller brains
>>
>>540265898
because they experience consequences far less
>>
File: Coonsequences.jpg (125 KB, 1074x1319)
125 KB JPG
>>540266197
Fucking youthful looking women of age is not pedophilia dumbass. I would fuck a grown woman that is a midget that looks completely like cunny just to spite stupid faggot bitches like you that can't mind their own fucking business. It's not a crime to want to ride the low miles supercar and or sportscar. I like big cannons, but I don't mind itty bitty titty too. I like to keep my options open for any girl whether young or old looking to ride the pony. If it's within law you have even less than no dog in this fight, you are just a fat used up whore with neon green hair that has had 6 million miles of elephant nigger dick. Go fuck yourself and go back from whence you came *pun nintendo* HAG.
>>
>>540265898

Because they lack the basic logical skills that all men possess and function solely on emotions and social approval. If racial politics became accepted tomorrow, you can be damn well sure that most of these harlots would be calling you a nigger and supporting all sorts racial fuckery.
>>
>>540265898
women believe whatever their latest Chad harem king believed
>>
>>540268259
There was a woman who wrote an interesting paper about it that aligns with what this anon said >>540266877
in the hunter gatherer days, exclusion from the group was a literal death sentence. This instilled an evolutionary need for acceptance.
>>
women don't have their own political opinions. they just mirror the political opinions of the men they desire.
>>
That's not an infant what the hell
>>
>>540271308
It's not that black and white though. The other posts about misguided empathy and sense of fairness, as well as motherly instincts, are also accurate.
>>
>>540271429
Yes, they will usually conform to your opinions even if it means abandoning all previous beliefs. I think this goes back to the acceptance thing though.
>>
>>540271308
Except that radical liberalism has little acceptance outside of institutions and you see young women cutting losing plenty of relationships (not just romantic, friends and family mostly) over it
>>
Why don't they just put a pacifier in their mouth as well

Fucking weird
>>
>>540265898
>Why are women far more liberal than men?
Because two things. Women are perpetual children who can never fully mature to male levels and the other reason because the women are perpetual children they very rarely notice the jewish problem and the jewish programming overrides even their biology. Who listens to a jew saying kill your unborn child? Women do.
>>
>>540271514
Social acceptance. Their co-workers, friends, social media, celebrities, and yeah institutions
>>
>>540270781
>Because they lack the basic logical skills that all men possess and function solely on emotions and social approval.
This.
And the jews know this about them and insert very low-level (BIOS tier) programming and firmware updates that are nigh impossible to remove.
>>
>>540265898
Because the Jews are destroying them after men. And they are more retarded.
>>
>>540265898
Yeah big deal I've hoisted rough stones heavier than that chick and lifting a person is easier because they instinctively balance their weight so they don't fall. UNLESS THEY'RE DEAD!!!
>>
Liberalism/socialism/whatever is made of the key foundation blocks of stupidity, lack of foresight and general laziness. It's basically built for women, niggers and retards.
>>
>>540266033
>>540267020
>>540268113
>>
>>540271563
No, they consciously isolate themselves into these progressive groups to which they gravitated before because of shared interests
>>
File: 1785233543292.gif (2.7 MB, 350x350)
2.7 MB GIF
Why do you retards still replying to these threads ffs?

Because you are a bunch of brown turds.
>>
Brain washing, read any Seventeen, or any of that kind of pulp.
>>
>>540265898
They have no genetic predisposition to have to defend anything except their social status.
>>
>>540271731
Why does anyone reply to anything? So stupid and pointless srsly. They should shut this gay ass website down for good so all of you clowns can stink up another place.
>>
>>540266197
All women date someone taller, stronger , smarter,cooler , older than they are.
Even at 80 you’re still children because patriarchal society uplifts you.
A teen boy has more accountability than a milf.
Maybe it’s time for girls to obey their fathers, brothers, uncles and sons.

Since women have no agency and don’t know better
Islam is right your word should be worth half of a man’s.
What maturity , patience and intelligence do you bring with age? You’re still gonna be retarded at 50 relying on your sons to do your run around.
You can commit the same crime as a teen boy and still get a lighter sentence . Teen boys have been sent to die fighting. Milfs do not.
Aside from sex and kids what do you bring that a man should simp for you.
Better off keeping a cat in the house.
>>
Because woman aren’t having families and children so their nurturing nature has been politicized toward social justice issues: LGBT rights, migrants rights to the country…and so on
>>
File: IMG_9568.jpg (280 KB, 1500x1579)
280 KB JPG
>>540265898
Based chads seek smol women
>>
File: 1768196964833.jpg (146 KB, 799x503)
146 KB JPG
>>540271865
>Why does anyone reply to anything? So stupid and pointless srsly. They should shut this gay ass website down for good so all of you clowns can stink up another place.

Go fuck yourself, kike
>>
>>540272274
No, fuck YOU. You central European flyover country hillbilly.
>>
>>540266137
Why
She is quite obviously a skank. There’s a 70% chance she makes that guys life miserable too
>>
THATS HOW YOU HOLD A BABY YOU FREAKS
>>
>>540266197
It's actually miscegenation, which is worse.
>>
File: 1785932764644008.jpg (140 KB, 794x1024)
140 KB JPG
>>540265898
>Why are women far more liberal than men?

https://benthamopenarchives.com/contents/pdf/TOANATJ/TOANATJ-2-37.pdf
>Men have nearly 6.5 times the amount of grey
matter related to general intelligence compared with women

TOTAL FOID DEATH
>>
Women are more likely to be educated these days.
>>
>>540266239
Sauce?
>>
>>540273552
nah, you dont want to see that bro
>>
>>540273619
I’m married. Don’t really watch porn but I like short skinny women
>>
>>540273437
Completely unrelated, it was already expected in the 19th for a lady to be well educated.
By 1920 there were almost as many women studying in the university as there were men.
It just created several generation of religious schizos obsessed with garbage novels
>>
File: 1750894739178459.jpg (79 KB, 975x1051)
79 KB JPG
>>540266197
And she likes it, man...
>>
File: orwell quote 1984 women.jpg (104 KB, 1179x412)
104 KB JPG
>>540265898
>Why are women far more liberal than men?
>>
>>540266805
Right wingers have more children. White Right wing people have as much children as native Hispanics. Liberals are not having families and drag the white birthrates down significantly.
>>
>>540273871
this is VERY problematic.
>>
>>540265898
SINGLE women are more liberal.

It's because they think about themselves when they vote and when they get married and have children they think about their family instead. Fewer women having children and those are having children later in life. This is why women lean more liberal when they vote.
>>
>>540265898
Their pussy whispers them some libtard shit when they are sleeping
>>
>>540265898
one day, that fella's gonna want a plapper and dump that lass
>>
>>540265898
Look at that fucking kike. It's a great profile study of Identifying Kikes
>>
>>540265898
Women are very impressionable and child-like. It is up to men to keep women under control and in check. When women don't get their way they act like a child.
>>
Trump redraws african borders>>540274919
>>
>>540265898
>Why are women far more liberal than men?
Go read 1001 Nights.
>>
>>540265898
Women don't usually have to deal with the consequences of their actions. Most of the time they'll either get a pussy pass or get bailed out by some desperately horny guy.
>>
>>540274538
Yeah dude he's going to get so tired of throwing her around the room and fucking her in any position imagineable and leave her for a big fat nasty bitch lays lays on her back fat and can't lift her legs up.
>>
>>540274047
I agree!
I really hope we can institute a one child policy for white parents
>>
>>540273697
SHES 25 BUT 4 FOOT 9 YOU SICK FUCK
>>
>>540265898
>why
kys nigger
that's also 2 men
>>
>>540273552
Hadar Lavy
>>
>>540265898
The left = opposition to Western (white) Civilization, in which patriarchy is fundamental
This is subconsciously understood and influences a decision making process wherein everyone who isn't a straight white man is drawn to the left in order to take power (which is a finite resource) from the straight white men who are the natural leaders (aka have all the power) in western civilization
of course the left has already succeeded to such a degree that the right adopts their positions, but generally white people understand the problem and vote for the right, even if it's hardly a better option
>>
>>540265898
Why do you keep posting this pic?
>>
Women are overall pretty dumb.
>>
>Why are woman way more liberal then men
Because democrats patronize women. They create programs to advantage them like DEI which is designed to take opportunities away from whites or men and distribute them to the democrats clients, minorities and women. If you are the client its great for you, but if you are the one being extracted from it sucks. Democrats argue against the norms that advantage men while arguing for all the benefits those norms provided women. The DNC is just a giant means of extracting wealth and wellness from men using the state.
>>
Woman are the most conservative beings in existence
>>
When theyre young you can bribe them into pretending to be liberal. But the money always runs out evemtually.
>>
File: IMG_20260805_133550_861.jpg (186 KB, 808x1280)
186 KB JPG
>>540265898
Dunno
>>
>>540265898
man back detected, 4tran strikes again
>>
>>540265898
Theyre the weaker, less capable gender and they require gibs especially if they arent married
>>
>>540265898
Women tend to think with their emotions more often than men do.
>>
>>540265898
It legalises BBC. Imagine if on the boats arrived Ukrainian females with big tits instead of big brown cocks, would you be far more liberal?
>>
>>540265898
They're largely shielded from the consequences of their actions throughout their lives
>>
>>540273012
>European flyover country hillbilly.
Calling the heart of Europe a flyover country is certainly a choice
>>
>>540265898
When you are in a position of privilige and advantage, you start to relax, you start to open the gates to the enemy
>>
>>540265898
>Why are women far more liberal than men?
because when you give women voting rights, they start destroying themselves. And this is just part of their biological nature to do so.
But society isn't ready yet for that conversation.

Now you live in a time, when over 60% of all people who vote are women (so they largerly sway elections in their favour in most countries today).
And when bad things happen in that country, they immediately point fingers at men and say it's men's fault this/that happened.

And yes, this fully makes sense in their minds.
Because the fundamental truth behind this blame-casting, is that they won't want to have voting rights, and were forced into it by modern culture - but won't admit it, because they like thinking they have agency.

tldr; picrel sums it up
>>
File: photo_2026-07-06_19-22-52.jpg (235 KB, 1190x1180)
235 KB JPG
>>540280576
Men see the world as a set of systems that can be built, destroyed or fixed.
Women see the world as a set of systems that exist for granted (like they fell from the sky or were granted to humans by god), therefore maintaining or building those systems isn’t as important as it is to find a comfy spot within those systems for every individual woman.

You present the problem of society falling apart, and you will get different reactions from men.
A man will feel the urge to fix or save the social system.
While a woman generally will act like “it’s not my problem” even if on the surface she might say words of concern. And “it’s not my responsibility to fix something that someone else broke”. This attitude is also transferred into relationships, marriages, and friendships. Women generally look for ways to extract personal benefit from structures and systems, they don’t seek to maintain those systems.
>>
File: azzzuka.jpg (103 KB, 1024x819)
103 KB JPG
>>540278785
>pic
a woman will blame you for being highly focused on her body and being a sex pest
but once you stop feeling sexual attraction to her, she gets mad and offended

this indicates that women are constantly stuck in an internal fight between their:
>natural animal instincts (which push them to be submissive and their autonomy to be violated)
>ego, agency and autonomy as a self-respecting individual
and this is biggest proof as to why on average most women LACK emotional intelligence, rather than have a surplus of it. They can't even reconcile their soul with their instincts inside of them, let alone contribute anything emotionally to the outside world



[Advertise on 4chan]

Delete Post: [File Only] Style:
[Disable Mobile View / Use Desktop Site]

[Enable Mobile View / Use Mobile Site]

All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.