Explain to me like Im 5.Why can't we just take this?
Cuz Iran is a big bad meanie poopyhead who won't listen to israel
because you can't afford high number of casualties
>>540276093Because it's not yours
>>540276093Iran is the bigger fish
>>540276093Because missiles and mines go boom.
This land bridge is blocking a safer route.
"taking" it is easy, making it safe enough ships are willing to use it is hard as fuck
>>540276093>Explain to me like Im 5.>Why can't we just take this?YOU CANT POOP EAT YOUR VEGETABLES
>>540276093Because it's called the STRAIGHT of Hormuz, not the GAY of Hormuz!
>>540276152fpbp meanie bobeanie irannie
>>540276093USA can take it, it's just that the USA population wouldn't accept the casualities. whoever would be responsible for the war would be committing political suicide which in this case would be trump
>>540276093Because Iran will rain infinite drones and missiles and we can’t stop them. Interceptors are more costly than the missiles they stop. We run out before they run out of missiles. Also they can launch such a quantity that it overwhelms the anti missile systems and many get through anyway. >why can’t we just bomb their missile productionIt’s underground, under mountains. We don’t know where they all are nor can we hit them all. The launch platforms are mobile. >why can’t we land troops and take these things Because of the first problems. The drones and missiles will stop troops from getting there. Israel wants us to do this and lose a million soldiers weakening Iran, so Trump just might. But they will get slaughtered. Iran is mountain fortress with unlimited munitions.
>>540276093Its indefensible, low ground and surrounded by hostile enemies with missiles. Playing defense for escorting cargo is a fools errand in modern warfare.>>540276272This. Israel wants energy independence from hostile nations and choking them off while allowing for the "free market" to work to find a better solution than shipping.
> Explain to me why we can't take a piece of water surrounded by hostile mean motherfuckers hiding in the mountains thousands of miles away from homeland
>>540276093>Why can't we just take this?Shallow waters along the coast make it near impossible to have military boats clear anywhere near the beach. This means outside of light small fishing/sports boats, nothing can be set up that would deter much of anything.The goal of Iran isn't to have dominance via a floating toll or military blockade, it's to frighten the +20million goods carrying ships that it takes one skipper craft with a few people and RPG+Drones to fly in and cause enough damage to sink it, thus losing all profits. This forces most companies not wanting to loose possible millions if not billion on a ship they haven't paid off to just not go through.>>540276272There already is a massive pipeline rolling through it's been at max capacity for a while. Another issue there is Somali would just get proxy funds and weapons from Iran and be told go hog wild. That country has endless nogs who would jump on a boat if it meant getting a bucket of KFC
>>540276093>Explain to me like Im 5.>Why can't we just take this?
Also FUCK Dubai
>>540276093No balls. Trump doesn't want to kill lots of people.
>>540276093We can. It would take a massive surge of personnel into the CENTCOM AOR. And, it would take pretty much what is happening now, which is buying time for the defense authorization act related massive increase in missile production to bear fruit. We would need to use tactical nukes, to traumatize the Iranis, likely, also, eventually, if the irannis started killing too many Americans. >>540276159If the casualty count gets too high, we can tactically nuke some targets, japan style, to traumatize them into surrender. In before either>they won't surrenderor>we won't use themWe will, and they will. All of their refineries can be burned, so they can't fuel their war effort. All of their petro chemical plants could be burned, so they couldn't make any more missiles/drones, all of their wheat storage silos, water treatment plants, sewage treatment plants, food industrial base facilities, ect, could be burned, to weaken the population, cause disease, and to remove the ability for the regime to make revenue, to pay the military/security forces. The 5 major caspian ports could be cut off, to cut alternate supply lines to the hormuz ports. All of the rail ways/bridges can be burned, to disrupt logistics. All remaining defense industrial base facilities can be burned. All hospitals, pharmaceutical production facilities, ect, can be burned, so that mil/sec personnel can't be treated, and so the general population can be weakened, so theor resolve to fight/resist is diminished. The people will be hungry, so anti-regime sentiment can be fomented, to force multiply the population against the regime, and they can be armed, ect. It would take a hell of a lot more than the 50,000 troops that are in the CENTCOM AOR now, though. It would seem. But just to take the islands and coastal regions, there might be enough. To take the capital city, it would take way more. 200,000, Id say. If we really caused wide spread civilian famine/thirst/disease/death I think it's doable.
>>540276093>Why can't we just take this?Because you can't. The US isn't the tough superpower you think it is. lol lmao
>>540276093There was a nice info graphic that showed just the portion of Iran in your pic is about the size of Vietnam.Scale and perception really gets lost in satellite images
>>540276460They don't have infinite drones and missiles. The need petrochemicals for rocket fuel and missile/drone bodies, as well as for countless other military related materiel production. Before we even land, all remaining petrochemical facilities can be burned. All gass field facilities. And, they need fuel for the war effort. Every refinery in the country can be burned. They need food to feed troops and the population. Every wheat silo and other food industrial base related facility can be burned. They need money to pay military/security personnel. All 5 major caspian ports can be burned, so no commerce with the outside world can happen. An no fly zone can be established, to eliminate any supplies getting in via air. You get the picture. A LOT of softening up can be done.a lot more stuff can be burned as wellas stated here>>540277193
>>540276093it's not like the US are the brits mate
>>540276159tell that to the draft in two weeks
>>540276093Muslims are terrorists
>>540276093The sea will just fill it in and water is costly to transport.
>>540276177This. Only a nigger takes things.
>>540276093The reason is asymmetric warfare, same reason the US lost Vietnam.Drones are cheap and can be launched from anywhere. There is no launch pad to destroy that prevents them from being launched. As long as Iran is capable of launching one drone, they can keep the strait closed. There is no way a conventional military can address this. US Navy won't even enter the strait because of how vulnerable they are to drone attack. It's a 2 mile wide channel and basically a shooting gallery for drones. There is no amount of bombing Iran that can be done that will open the strait. The US will exhaust their ammunition supplies and the strait will still remain closed.
>>540276093Because the US isn't as big and tough as it seems to think it is.
>>540276093There's these evil monsters called "Jews" and they destroy and suck the life out of everything they touch. They've been in power in America for a long time and now America is ruined and very weak and does not have the power to fight anyone anymore.
>>540276093cuz it's in the other side of the world, what are even doing there?
>>540276093US current strategy is to just siege down iran to minimize us casualties while iran loses a lot of imams and irgc
>>540277193It's always cute then /k/trannys come in doing their optimistic wargaming gimmick as if this is final destination fox only no items. Like this all occurs in a vacuum and the US has a great reputation and international support. That it is completely insulated from the fallout of taking the entirety of the Middle East offline from global markets and plunging millions into desperate circumstances.>hurr they'll flood europoors not my problem >hurr we have oil not my problem
>>540277193Retard
>>540277447Sounding a bit war-crimey for what is a purely economic issue.
>>540276093Cause Pedo Trump is an incompetent retard
>>540277193>related massive increase in missile production to bear fruitThis is absolute nonsense. The stockpiles are at historic lows. The US produces 96 THAAD missiles per year and Hegseth just blew through several years of production in 3 months with no results to show for it. The war is a humiliating disaster and needs to end.
>>540277193If they would surrender they would have already surrendered, retarded niggershill
>>540277799It's a moot point anyway. Israel would never let the US go all in on Iran, especially not now the absolute state of the US MIC and force posture has been revealed.
>>540276093We should just build a canal going through the peninsula of Oman, say fuck tranny Iranny and stay out of the straight of hormuzzy
>>540276093United States could take the strait of Hormuz and the entirety of Iran without question. But it requires more sacrifice than we're willing to accept.
>>540277903>Israel would never let the US go all in on IranThey are already warning that the US is running their stockpiles too low to effectively defend Israel, if Iran shifted their focus to hitting Israel instead of other US-allied gulf countries (Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, etc).So yes, the US has stopped hitting Iran almost certainly because Israel told them to.
>>540277193>Muh tactical nooksKek retards have been arguing for "tactical nukes" since 1946 and it has never work out because it's political suicide as well as mutual assurance destruction suicide, if US ever uses nukes then Russia automatically nukes US
>>540277751It’s crazy that they support invading a country that has nothing to do with us and everything to do with a satanic banking cartel
>>540276093you need to build underground missile bunkers like iran and use cheap drones to bomb the shit out of iran but you are too lazy to do it, over the ground bases are too easy to destroy, you need to copy iran's bunkers
>>540276159That and not enough ammo. We already ran out of munitions trying and failing to deal with the Houthis, even after begging for old MIC workers to return and help restock everything we exported to Ukraine. The only ammo we are okay with is smaller caliber munitions due to civilian support.
>>540276093Same problem we always have with browns. It's much easier to shit in a pool than it is to get the water clear. Think of it like detroit.
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>>540277447They can hit the saudis oil and water supplies. Do you not care about your saudi vassals? How much do you think that would increase fuel prices? >In a desert region heavily dependent on desalination for drinking water, it has raised fear of mass disruption to water supplies which are a civilian and economic lifeline in the Gulf countries of Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait and Oman.
>>540276093YOU DONT TAKE THAT TAKING THAT DOESNT DO SHITYOU TAKE THE CAPITAL IRANNY HAS NO CHANCE AGAINST AMERICAAMERICA JUST HASNT DECIDED TO DO IT YET
>>540277447Heard this multiple times now. So do you have infinite defense missiles?
>>540278328So just do it then pussy?
>>540276460I wonder if trump will consider using tactical nukes on iran if he gets desperate. We've already depleted 80% of our missile supply.
>>540276093Because it's not yours Jamal.
>>540276093it's loaded with landmines
>>540277985Iran will just run the oil clock out and once that happens and the US markets crumble Israel will be facing a lot of problems.
>>540278392Good way to end your entire presidency and party. Nuking the people you claimed to be saving.
>>540276093How are you gonna hold it?
>>540278120Nothing would be more tone deaf than a tactical nuke but at this stage of retardation the mutts might actually do it. You'd find me among the hundreds of thousands telling US to get the fuck out of Europe afterwards though
>>540278409>landminesIn the ocean?
Because the US is a declining shithole, our empire is over but most people still don't realize that. All world reserve currencies go through the same cycle and we are at the end of ours, where military control of trade routes can no longer be maintained due to depleted buying power of the currency As result of decades of loss of manufacturing capability.
>>540276093Israel wants a pipeline and a port in Gaza thats why they are currently leveling it. They want the straight closed so the world supports this. That's why they are doing everything thing they can to prolong the war and undermine peace. You know just typical Israel behavior.
>>540276093>Explain to me like Im 5.>Why can't we just take this?Logistics, its far away for us, expensive to operate in.The opposite is true for Iran, and on many facets.
I'm telling you not to and you will obey like a little mutt bitch
>>540276093Because just one mine placed in there by a rubber raft is more powerful than the billions of dollars we've spent bombing them. No commercial vessel willingly go through if there is even one mine in there, and you cannot bomb sea mines, they have to be taken out with specialist equipment that we cannot get close enough to use without being shot at by missiles. Furthermore, removing mines is WAAAAAAAAAY more expensive than placing them. It is a lose-lose situation for the US. We were supposed to not get involved, but Bibi told Trump to bomb children and he asked how many.
>>540276093>Explain to me like Im 5.Because they put boom boom in the water and make ships go boom boom. And even if you ouchy their boats, they make new ones and put boom boom in the water again.
>>540277193>we can tactically nuke some targetsImmediately lost all credibility when you posted it and gave away your postas w childish fantasy. I don't even need to read the rest
>>540276093>Why can't we just take this?Because billions of dollars of naval gear is mogged by cheap snownigger drones built from moped motors. Turns out not everything can be solved just by covering the problem with money, at some point you actually need to know at least a little of what the fuck you are actually doing. There was no need to take it in the first place if that old orange faggot had any balls he would tell the jewish demon whispering into his ear to fuck off back into the tunnels from whence he came. The best he can do now is impotent whining like a baby as carpet bombs the whole place hoping and praying they surrender. TLDR; our politicians are stupid fucking faggots that do not hesitate to sell us out to the yigger Everywitz. Singleberg. Timeshem. Meaningless fucking war that shouldn't have happened in the first place. It only advances Israeli interests, not US interests.
>>540278282lol aren't you ashamed to be posting thosd stupid memes considering your flag? aren't you sad to see your country losing?sad state of affairs. also Mojtaba is a faggot. Muslims need to stay out of mexico.
>>540277600This is false. We could cripple their production, food, water, trade etc. It would be a full on genocide and thats why they won't do it. In the meantime theyre dumping dated munitions. You're full retard if you think we're running out of munitions. We're spending old dated munitions like ATACEMS and testing limited supplies of new end munitions like PRSM while funding development of future munitions at even higher rates. These things have expiration dates. We've been producing Tomahawks and ATACEMS and patriots for decades with nowhere to spend them. We can hit any target anywhere except directly into pickaxe.
>>540276093Because Iran is right there and they can missile your shit
>>540278750yes. it's very shallow there.
>>540279467Trump literally got tricked by Bibi. They said that he went to the whitehouse and did a presentation that was basically:>Iran about to have a nuke>The population is ready to erupt>We're going in, and you're gonna get hit by them so you better join usAnd he believed them. In reality, the "protests" were greatly exaggerated by Israeli media (they were the ones primarily reporting on it) and whatever hatred for the regime was there disappeared when the opening salvos by the US destroyed a school for little girls. We then tried to deny it was blown up, then said it was Iran that did it, then tried to say it was secretly a military base, and then later admitted to it happening.It is incredible how nakedly retarded this "plan" was.
>>540276249Would being 10 miles further from Iran make a difference?
>>540279540Hey, you're the kike shill from the other thread! >>540278088 LOLGet the fuck out of here.
>>540277736Just keep hellfiring everything that looks IRGC until no more IRGC. You think it'll work? How long?
>>540277484Omg in 2 weeks? Adding this to my Outlook calendar.
>>540276093Because Iran will flatten all the critical infrastructure in the vassal gulf states if you try
>>540279612I'm a red blooded American with no political or religious affiliations but yeah thats me from the other thread lol
>>540279540>You're full retard if you think we're running out of munitions.Even Fox is reporting a munitions shortage caused by Hegseth's bloodlust, your talking points are out of date.
>>540276093>Why can't we just take this?because iran will fire back?
>>540276093Because Trump is retarded and is apparently fine with being strung along by muzrats forever with endless peace negotiations.
Costs too much money to go back and forth and babysit every single boatAs soon as you take a nap a citizen from shitstain village will walk out and use their state-mandated RPG to just hit any boat at all, which will scare the others into stopping The only solution is literally to kill every single Iranian, which I approve of
>>540280147Iran aren't even negotiating with him. There are no negotiations occurring. This is all Trump pumping and dumping the oil markets, pretending to negotiate the lower prices, buying in, claiming the negotiations have stopped, price spikes, he sells at a significant profit, pretending to negotiate again, etc.
>>540276093Are you willing to go die on an Iranian beach?That's why.
>>540276093Because America isn’t as strong as it’s been telling you it is.
>>540279943Defensive munitions yeah this burn rate is probably unsustainable but we can make a lot more a lot faster than you think. This is also all hand waving and estimates for the army, not total. As nobody has a clue of any real numbers because its classified. I'd be more worried if we burned all of our sm 2/6/3 and LRASMs but where the fuck else are we going to use land based offensive and defensive munitions but the middle east? I dunno we need to stop burning patriots on drones thats for sure. The current media narrative is that the left says we have no munitions to make people think the fight cannot be won and was a mistake. The right wants everyone to think there are no munitions to gain support for funding more munitions. You see? So we will get more munitions
>>540276093Same reason we couldn’t hold Afghanistan
>>540277193(You) nukes never existed, retard. Go bck to aall and guns slop.
>>540277193The absolute state of miggers
>>540276093Because you're weaker.
>>540276093Because the US decided to siege it instead of taking it immediately
>>540280309>we can make a lot more a lot faster than you thinkYou absolutely cannot. There are physical limits to how fast munitions can be replenished. Funding levels are irrelevant. This is obvious when you look at the rate of nuclear submarine construction in the US. Tens of billions have been thrown at increasing throughput and it has not increased at all.>The current media narrative is that the left The right is pushing the same narrative because it's reality. You are so high off MAGA propaganda, you don't even know which way is up any longer.
>>540277193That way too much speculation to be certain. “I think” = nothing
>>540276159God forbid we lose private spic and sergeant nignog
>>540276093Zoggies are actually outmatched on that battlefield. When they start telling you we can do it and gathering up goy bodies to build a mountain of gentile corpses in that little spot, you might want to try to avoid being one of them.
>>540279943that is totally not a psyop lol
>>540280450Munitions depletion was reported all over the press, from Fox all the way to Wapo. Are you saying it's unbelievable that Hegseth might not be a competent military commander?
>>540280450What the fuck in the Saudis control Hollywood are you talking about?
>>540276093because of the drones will kill the dudes
>>540277193Using a nuke in a retarded colonial war that you started for no reason other than the Mossad has funny videos of your pedo president would be the end of the american empire, Europe, Japan and China would just drop the dollar as a standard trading currency and the US would default on its debt within the semester. Stop saying retarded things anon, it makes you look retarded
>>540276093Us should just dump billions of landmines along the iran coast, then setup an autonomous drone swarm that huns down anyone who approaches.
>>540276093USA has less military than it had during Invasion of Afghanistan, which it lost. Iran is bigger, Whiter, has more people, and has a technology advantage against the US. Iran is allied to Russia and China and North Korea, who altogether defeat America in a nuclear exchange or manufacturing competition.
>>540280585Lmao this is the most retarded post Ive ever read.well done
>>540276093Cause amphibious warfare is hard as fuck and despite all the propaganda movies you make no one on earth wants to deal with another d-day.How many dead US soldiers are you truly willing to see in 4k washing up on beaches? Be honest with yourselves.It's a massive stalemate and anyone with a clue knows that.
How can Iran get away with this?
>>540276292>taking" it is easyThe American navy does not enter the strait itself. It tried sending a few ships in, in violation of the MOU, and was forced out. The USN doesn't have a way to defend itself from land artillery or drones. To borrow a Chinese metaphor: America is a shark, and Iran is a crocodile. The crocodile will always win in shallow water. The shark will always win in deep water.
>Why we can't take this We can, the problem isn't taking it, its keeping it. A war ship sitting in there is a sitting duck. Iran has the advantage in holding the strait because all they have to do is attack a few merchant ships to close the strait. Insurance won't cover anyone going through and business won't risk the cost of a ship without insurance. The US would have to take the coastal area to completely secure the strait, but doing so means a ground war we don't want to fight.
>>540280369I hate this orange retard what the hell are you saying im MAGA. America is great already. He is fumbling this Iran shit left and right. That doesn't mean I dont support killing off the IRGC and tripling munitions production.Comparing submarine production to munitions production is retarded. We build fantastic subs but yeah its a bit slow. We are in peacetime and already operate the most formidable submarine force and blue water navy on the planet.Take a break man maybe worry about your own Muslim occupation and take it easy with the TDS. Or are you just meme flagging? Either way I ain't worried about munitions.
Why don't the eagles carry the ships to Mordor
>>540279585The amount of things that weren't done before the war started that should have been done by people who knew those things needed to be done, who we just watched patiently prepare for 7 months to get a one night operation right, suggests that Israel suprised them with the start of the war. Likely deliberately to maximize the clusterfuck.
>>540277447>They don't have infinite drones and missiles. Relative to American production, they do.>The need petrochemicals for rocket fuel and missile/drone bodies, as well as for countless other military related materiel production. Iran and their allies across the Caspian and land borders all have ready access to that.>Before we even land, all remaining petrochemical facilities can be burned. All gass field facilities. And, they need fuel for the war effort. Every refinery in the country can be burned. They need food to feed troops and the population. Every wheat silo and other food industrial base related facility can be burned. They need money to pay military/security personnel. All 5 major caspian ports can be burned, so no commerce with the outside world can happen.This is with America's capability, but Iran can then return the favor across the Gulf and in Israel.>An no fly zone can be established, to eliminate any supplies getting in via air. America is attacking Iran's coast from standoff range, sortieing from the UK to do so. America completely lost the fight for control of Iran's airspace. Their primary route for importing material is through the Caspian anyway.>You get the picture. A LOT of softening up can be done.America depleted it's capability to do this. America was unable to penetrate even one military bunker in Iran. America does not have munitions rated to penetrate high PSI concrete. That's why they build with it.
>>540280735>already operate the most formidable submarine forceYou don't though, China already passed you in submarine fleet. You don't seem to know anything about your own country
>>540280309Faggot lying shill. USA cannot even replace our munitions sent to Ukraine(we literally forgot/lost how to make some of it). Meanwhile the Houthis alone were enough to make the USA Navy retreat because we didn't have the munitions to keep up.The USA has been trying and failing to convince the MIC to respool up production but they literally cannot do so. Too much forgotten expertise, unwillingness to reform, blatant corruption, and price extortion. They were BEGGING old retired fucks to go back to work and retrain people because 'oops' we don't know how to make shit anymore AND never bothered to train up any replacements teehee. Even fucking FOGBANK is gone and surplus is exhausted. The USA nuclear arsenal itself which you endless gush over is LITERALLY falling apart due to lack of spare old parts and inability to make new nukes/parts. They are cannibalizing nukes to barely sustain an ever decreasing arsenal.Our production levels of what we even CAN still make is also a total joke. Shit the only reason we still have decent levels of smaller calibers is solely due to civilian support and imports. The MIC has been dropping production and price gouging beyond limit despite all attempts to respool production. Which as it turns out is now impossible. Fucking retarded sandniggers can cook up munitions in a fucking cave that costs an almost irreplaceable counter missile to deal with their shitty ass drones alone. We literally do not have an answer for it. We cannot possibly outproduce them and the what we can make still doesn't even cost them a tiny fraction to force us to expand it.That is why the USA navy ran away from the fucking Houthis in their panjamas like a bunch of little bitches. They ran out of ammo and didn't dare get too close. Iran is so SO much worse than the Houthis. Yet you shabbos goyim and Jews somehow forgot about the whole embarassing cockslapping the Houthis or even Taliban gave you on the face before thinking you can take on Iran.
>>540277193>We would need to use tactical nukesYour plan for victory in Iran is a nuclear exchange against Russia, China, and North Korea. America lost a missile conflict, in particular by having less missiles of worse guidance, and your plan is to re-engage in a missile conflict with higher stakes.>traumatize them into surrenderAmerica started by murdering their religious leader and school children. They didn't surrender.>We can take Tehran with less men than took IraqYou're retarded.
>>540277193>just hurt them more!stop being so jewish.things were fine before we bombed them; the strait was open and ships weren't being fined or bombed. Listening to Israel was a mistake (it always was).>but muh nuclear bomb!Netanyahu's on record saying they're 2 months away for 20 years now.Just say no to jews.
>>540279503Do you have evidence for that, Sheinbaum?
>>540276093>Why can't we just take this?Drone onslaught would keep hammering any docked ships or land troops stationed there.Thousands of American troops would keep dying to hold it.Just like Russians on Ukraine.
>>540276093Iran shrimply cannot be militarily defeated by the United States of America and NATO.
>>540276093They live there, you don't. Same reason all Taliban had to do was sit in caves and wait.
>>540279540>We could cripple their production, food, water, trade etc.American munitions don't work well against the high PSI concrete they use. I don't even think America can destroy their reservoirs. But even if we continue pretending America can level Iran, how would that disrupt their underground missile cities?>ZOG won't do a genocideIsrael is currently genociding Gaza, and America's first act in this conflict was to target schools and hospitals during the morning rush.
Water BIGLand BIGBoat SmallBIG Water and BIG Land hard for small boatsto guard.Hope that helps dum dum.
>>540280735>i hate this orange retard>whoa bro, take it easy with the TDS
>>540276159That's why we have false flags, gentile :)
>>540279540>We're spending old dated munitions like ATACEMS and testing limited supplies of new end munitions like PRSMPrSM is what's depleted.>We can hit any target anywhereExcept their unground bunkers, the Caspian, or anything inland now that America's air bases are destroyed.>You're full retard if you think we're running out of munitions.The only people denying this regularly lie about everything.
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>>540280147>endless peace negotiations.America had the JCPOA. If a peace agreement was the goal, there wouldn't have been a war. That was the status quo before Trump tore it up and murdered as many Iranian children as he could for Moloch.
>>540276093Are you quoting one of Trump's cabinet meetings?
>>540276093Rather than "worrying" about taking the Straits of Hormuz, you should be considering the transfer of Russia or China's latest hypersonic missiles to Iran so they can start to hit Diego Garcia and totally drive Anglo American power right the fuck out of that entire area.
>>540276093Because selling oil at 90$ a barrel is more profitable then when it's at 60$ a barrel
>>540280309>So we will get more munitionsAmerica will wave a magic wand and become a manufacturing power that rivals China. In two weeks.
>>540277193The Houthis can destroy 95% of Saudi Arabia's oil production capabilities for the next 10 years in a month or two if they so desired. Their defeat of two US carrier groups last year should have opened Trump's stupid peepers to the impossibility of this entire stupid attack on Iran.
>>540280367>instead of taking it immediatelyWhat do you think America could have done to take the strait instantly.
>>540276093It doesn't belong to you. It is not yoursIt is on the other side of the worldAmerica does not own everythingYou're a fat gaylord
>>540280573>just dump billions of landmines along the iran coast,America cannot get close enough to use GBUs
>>540276272This is the best solution. just bypass all the retarded terrorists
>>540276093ignorance and racism do not equal power and do not extend to the lives of men whose only scarce opportunity in life is working as crew in the ships.I could call that a lot of things but I am going to just call it what only sanity is left>>540276152this is what you're dealing with >>540276177its not even an issue about theft or conquest in the modern world, I am only going to humor it because it is the straight of hormuz and most folks aren't straight. speaking of ships there was a girl who groped people in a ship in another thread, and she was stopped cold in her tracks. find a better export than homosexuality, I like T shirts
>>540280573>then setup an autonomous drone swarmAmerica doesn't have these, their batteries don't last, and Iran has countermeasures anyway.
>>540280714>We canWhat do you even mean by this since the rest of your post contradicts it
>>540276093Your people arent too happy to die in that war, especially since this wouldnt have been a problem if zion don just regused israel's idea to attack iran.Also you are across the ocean, iran is right there and full. of shitskin slims whose greatest ambition in life isnto explode on an oil tanker.
>>540280735>America is great already.For who?>That doesn't mean I dont support killing off the IRGCWhy? I have never met a White American who thought this was a pressing issue compared to the importance of not being at war in the middle east. Donald Trump's entire election was an anti-war vote.>We are in peacetime America has not been at peace for even a second in the last thirty years.>and already operate the most formidable submarine force and blue water navy on the planet.North Korea has a larger subsurface fleet and forced America out of its waters recently.
It doesn't matter much. Iran loses a fortune every day by the strait being closed and countries are fast tracking ways around it so it will be irrelevant in 3 years or less. Also, the US is energy independent and it's hastening Venezuela getting its oil exports back to pre-commie levels. Countries that were "greening" their economies have gotten a reality check, as if funding the Russian military wasn't enough of one, and this is forcing them to rethink where they obtain the lifeblood of their economies.
>>540280779>prepare for 7 months to get a one night operation right,40 years
>>540276093>Why can't we just take this?Deploying sea mines is super easy. You can do it out of the back of a speed boat or fishing boat. Removing sea mines is a giant and dangerous pain in the ass that requires a highly specialized billion dollar minesweeper. So Iran can mine the strait very easily and if they do it becomes a huge pain in the ass to get them out. Beyond that they can launch air strikes, drone strikes, missile strikes or artillery strikes on ships from their own territory. So even if you control the water of the Strait you're still within firing range of all sorts of weapon systems.This was a dumb war. We lost it before we even started it because the whole scenario places Iran at a huge advantage against us.TLDR: FUCK ISRAEL.
>>540281728Whistling past the graveyard are we?
>>540281526Muttxican't, fat gaylords. always have been always will be. they fucking give speeches and expect you to treat their bullshit like its something serious. just saw Fauci speedrun a big bad courtroom and the other guy talk like a faggot before i changed the channel
>>540281728>countries are fast tracking ways around itPlease describe these.>Also, the US is energy independentThe US is not energy independent.>it's hastening Venezuela getting its oil exports back to pre-commie levelsThe US is not currently at those levels, and those levels do not cover what's lost in the straight.
>>540281828>Please describe these.Look them up for yourself. >The US is not energy independent.It is. You can quibble about the fact oil is a global commodity so the US is still subject, albeit to a more limit degree, to market forces but the fact is the US became a net exporter in Trump's first administration. They need to make a lot more investments to feed the demand as AI expands though. China is way ahead in terms of energy production. >The US is not currently at those levelsVenezuela is increasing its output, retard.>not cover what's lost in the straightStrait*
>>540276093Iran would keep attacking with drone swarms.A lot of of Amerimutts would die there.For Israel.
>>540281633>What do you mean by this We can blow up their Navy and all their defenses. The american fleet can sail through the strait if it wants, but it can't hold the strait long term. If we tried we'd risk losing ships with surprise drone strikes and guerrilla tactics. The only way to stop that would be to move the battle line back by taking the shores by the strait.
>>540277751You're brown. Irannies are trannies. They are weak. All of the top few commanders of all of their military/security forces are dead, including the supreme leader and his replacement son, who they are trying to pretend is still alive. The US can hit anything they want to in Iran, and that's an absolute fact. Yet, the Irannies can't hit anything in the US. This was their capital city.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOlD-zLDwIYThis was the crown jewel of their navyIranny Drone carrierhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPT3SIrCo5QThey are nothing. The US has stationary sitting duck bases a few miles from their border, and they ded minor damage to a couple of empty where houses. Their air force is all burned. Their blue/green water naval vessels are burned. defense industrial base facilities are burned. They are down to firing 3 missiles per salvo, and they hit nothing. Absolutely disgraceful>>540277791>t. brown>>540277840>t. brown person>>540277886There's a world of difference when the power grid gets 100% burned. Look in to what happened to the civ population in the first gulf war, when 96% of the grid got burned, brownie. picrel. Times it by twenty, at least. >>540279154brown>>540277193brown>>540280351brown>>540280376you're brown>>540280564There's different yield. You can use low yield, and do it away from US personnel.>>540280924None of those countries will do shit. We are cucking china and russia right now. We are helping to burn the shit out of russia's shit with Ikraime, brown boy.
>>540276093Put a tiny dot in the water part of your picture, that is an aircraft carrier now compare that tiny dot the the country of Iran.
>>540282840>The US can hit anything they want to in Iran, and that's an absolute fact.You can hit anything but all their military facilities which are a mile underground. Why do you think all the bombing that has occurred so far has done nothing to stop Iran's ability to fight back? Because nothing sensitive has actually been hit. It's all a mile underground. Iran has been preparing for this since 1979.
>>540276177kekCant beat that logic.
>>540276093You're just asking a bunch of American hating brown people. They're all just gonna say >Iranny stronkThey are all just>indian produced youtube AI slop video, the person
The Law Of Unintended Consequences....
>>540277193kek zigger tier cope, american century of humiliation lmao
>>540276249Why don't they just bunker bomb that?
>>540277193The larger the wall of text the larger the cope.
