I want what china have.Fuck capitalism
>>540282570Is China the most responsible vector in this conflict?
>>540282922>responsibleDid China force you to attack iran?Did China for Mutts to attac iran?
>>540282570The reason China can do this is 70% of new cars sold are EVs and they had the foresight to stockpile 2bn barrels of oil, unlike most western countries who have nonexistent EV sales and have drained their strategic oil reserves or never had one (Australia)
>>540282570China is capitalistic tho
>>540283236Yeah, just less far along the oligarchy routeNow that i have seen what bezos and musk etc. Ate it was based of them to disappear jack maFuck these billionaire subhumans trying to unilaterally change govt policy
>>540282570Germoney (now broke and without electricity) is probably more communist than China
>>540282922They are more rational than I thought. Xi seems to prioritize his relationship with the West over chimping out in a proxy war like what Mao was doing in the 60s. The lessons of the past taught them what works and what doesn't.
>>540283336>Germoney is probably more communist than ChinaExplain how?>>540283236China is litterally the only country left who raise the hammer and sickle with pride.
>>540283144You have said that>>540283345Very impressive and wise
>>540282570China is more capitalistic than everyone else, and it's their foresight in geopolitical matters that is helping them enormously. We can't call china communist while they're actively seeking to create products at the most competitive price. They're textbook capitalism 101.>>540283202Not just EVs, it's also true that china built a ton of refining capacity but that capacity was built in the near term for exports. China can match USA in refining capacity but doesn't right now, they've banned exports for a while and are worried about domestic consumption only. Basically china won before the war started, they've got enough oil for domestic needs, while america is pumping its SPR and running refineries at over 100%(yes, that's a thing). China has been shutting down refineries for maintenance and watching the global oil markets for when they should start buying again. So china is fine, it's everyone else in the asia-pacific region that's screwed. And when the US starts shutting down refineries for maintenance this fall/winter, we'll see if the price of oil stays low while gas prices keep rising.
>>540284109>seeking to create products at the most competitive priceThat's only 1 half of capitalism.The other half is to corner markets and create arificial scarcity and raise your price/monopoly.China doesn't engage in this, so China is only fake capitalist.
>>540284109I think they might also be doing this to generate goodwill with the non-US west. Like the oil prices globally would be much higher right now if they were still buying at their previous normal rate, it would be reasonable to expect $120/barrel or higher right now if not for their consumption cuts. They are currently trying to lure US allies away from the US, and frankly it's working.
>>540284232ok commie>>540284237It's their strategy that's been working for years now, just keep pushing forward and building things and people will like you more. Helping people, not threatening or attacking them. People call china opportunistic but it's not different than anyone else, it's just the sinking western europe/US that can't offer anything anymore. It's pathetic. China may re-enter the market with more force soon since finished products are draining faster than people realize. Stockpiles were built for these types of scenarios but the world isn't prepared once those stockpiles are gone. We really don't know how china will emerge from this, they might just dominate the asia pacific if the shortages last long enough. You can't challenge china when your economy is rationing fuel and entering a severe recession.
>>540282570>source: bloomberg.us.govNice try switching up the order of your VPNs muttoid
>>540284610They're supplying Australia with cheap EVs, solar panels and batteries, which is lowering everyone's cost of living significantly. They're making it hard to hate them. Meanwhile the US is harassing Australia with unjustified tariffs and then complaining that our government is trading more with China. Like what do you expect.
>>540282570>I want what china haveFascism and capitalism. Also jew-free... Hmm you might have a point
>>540285649>which is lowering everyone's cost of living significantlyChina wants a world where everybody has abundance.Murrica wants a world where its elites control the scarcity.These opposite goals are why they are so mad at China.
>>540285938They're allowing us and any other country trading with them to get off fossil fuels. The US, being one of the world's largest fossil fuel producers, is undoubtedly displeased with this.Plus they're just about to start flooding the computer parts market via CXMT with cheap RAM, which will crash the price of computers, phones and gaming consoles after the US made it unaffordable by buying all future production from Korea. Like I said, it's very hard to hate them.
>>540286059>Plus they're just about to start flooding the computer parts market via CXMTThey are not quite there yet, the factories are difficult to produce.ASML produces over 200 DUV machines in 2025, while China is expected to produce 20 DUV machines in 2027.The gap in ability is still a work in progress.>with cheap RAM, which will crash the price of computersThey are really just trying to brin prices back to the normal sane levels we had in the 2010~2024 era.But it won't be as easy as people think, there is hard work ahead to free the world from Murrica/Korea's artificial scarcity scheme.
>>540282570He doesn't know.
>>540284109>being efficient and mindful instead of abusive and exploitative at any cost is actually real capitalism
>>540283345>Xi seems to prioritize his relationship with the West over chimping out in a proxy war like what Mao was doing in the 60s.but.... its the only reason china kept its proxies? what?is there really a canadian, in this thread, in 2026, saying that if you kill your enemies, they win? ffs
>>540285934The CCP is an illegitimate Judeo-Bolshevik government.
>>5402865051.5 billion people is impressive
They have capitalism, managed by government like US had.
>>540286505>if you kill your enemies, they win?But it's true. Murrica killed Iran's leaders, and Iran won.You owe him an apology.
>>540286524>NOOO MY FOREIGN JUDEO-AMERIMUTT BACKED AND ARMED MILITARY JUNTA IS THE REAL CHYNA GOVERNMENT NOT THE PEOPLE OF CHINAYou muttoid bugman shills would says the same about any government of China as long as its free, independent and competent and not sucking Amerikike dicks
>>540283202>The reason China can do this is 70% of new cars sold are EVsNo it's not. It's because they can't get crude from Iran and the other shell countries that resold Iranian crude to China so China had to start tapping into their strategic oil reserves.https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/China-Begins-Tapping-Oil-Stockpiles-as-Middle-East-Crisis-Drags-On.html
>>540282570All of that wouldn't have happend if the Brits won the independence war in America.
>>540286644Did you even read my post, I named their 2 billion barrel strategic reserve as a reason they can do this in the very next sentence
>>540286853It has literally zero to do with EVs. Hell, most of them are in scrapyards. And they don't have 2 billion barrels, more like half of that, and they're drawing more than 1 million barrels per day from it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wvyb9Mp69ew
>>540287013Imagine quoting fucking Serpentza as a reliable source of anything, you immediately discredited yourself
>>540282570Best the EUSSR can do is an anarcho-tyrannical surveillance state without the benefits you get in China, sorry.
>>540282570They didn't import crude because they couldn't. Why are we acting like they're some benevolent force for good when all they do is militarize themselves and threaten everyone around them? Oh right this is a wumao shill thread
>>540288549Anon is also retarded because he still didnt realize you mentioned their spr
>>540283202China isnt a war monger. unlike most countries in the west which have alot of their money tied up in ukrops and muslimstan
>>540288655China has the mandate of heaven (tianming). Western polticians will eat your babies and be like "you voted for this". Constitutional court will be like "ok, after months we found out that eating babies is wrong - but we won't do anything about it, ask the executive branch [who are the ones eating babies]".
>>540283313China literally has some of the richest billionaires on the planet, and they're involved with the government. Notoriously so. Are you fucking retarded?>>540282570The only reason their numbers are down is because their primary supplier (Iran) is, y'know, kind of having a wee bit o' trouble getting it out and over to them in case you haven't been paying attention to worldly affairs. They're not doing it to be nice, you monumental fucktard. Matter of fact, they're buying a large swathe of their gas from the US now as of several months ago due to us being a net-exporter these days (what the war is actually about).
>>540282922they litterary saving europe and american economy by not buying oil now becuse they have 15 x the oil stockpiles that america had before warbut i guess not buying oil from jews for twice as much as normal price is antisemitic
>>540283500EU restrictions, laws, beaucrocracy, make it so that the investors and normie citisens alike have much more economic freedom in china than in germanythe only communist thing about china is the gov commnad structure and unwilingless to admit to failureswotch goes for nearly every polititian on earth that is in power now
>>540282570Capitalism ended long ago. Before you can fight you must understand the nature of your enemy. The modern world operates not under capitalism, but finacialism. The difference is that under capitalism money is a tool to facilitate economic activity, under finacialism money itself became the economic activity.
>>540291487>EU restrictions, laws, beaucrocracyThat's just normal capitalis practiced by western anti-communists.
>>540283236learn what capitalism is
Even military equipment runs on batteries nowGas is outdated
>>540291672ironic
>>540282570>I want what china haveIncluding homogenous nation with an ingroup bias?
>>540286644They were getting 40-50% of their oil from Iran, violating US sanctions and paying below market price for it.They were getting another unknown amount from Russia in return for support in their war effort, also paying below market pricing. Russia's oil industry has been impacted by as much as 40-50% due to Ukraine's strikes on their oil & gas infrastructure.China is importing less because they can't get it from Iran or Russia right now and they refuse to pay global market pricing to bring it in from anyone else. They will take advantage of their renewable resources and their stockpile until they see how things shake out with Iran and Russia over the course of the next few weeks.
>>540282570Sorry, Jews say 'no'.
>>540282570China literally has capitalism and free market for the middle class, while West is socialist shithole.Somehow socialist retards think China gives money for free to its citizens like in EU.
>>540282922Israel flags are the worst on this website