Throughout the history, Russians and Slavs have been nothing but kind to Germans, while Germans have been spilling our blood for centuries.Why is that? What is the origin of Russophobia and Slavophobia in Germany?Why are they so racist? Is it the same with Jewish "loxism" to the point where it is no longer ideological, but cultural?
>>540300418>lure german settler into russia>promise them good land>give them the worst>they still make it the most productive region>start to opress them and put them into gulagssomething like this
>>540300539This. Also the germans just hated Bolshevism not the Russian people
>>540300539>forgets that germany sent in lenin along with the ideology to fuck over germanskarma
>>540300568This is blatantly false, they were the ones who sent Lenin to Russia.Additionally, most German communists survived the camps and later on went to become the rulers of new camps in Eastern Germany, while Russians even slightly sympathetic to Stalin we brutally murdered. Why is that?
>>540300626did they send stalin too?>Joseph Stalin lived in Vienna for a brief period in early 1913. Sent by Vladimir Lenin, he stayed in the Austrian capital for about a month to study the "national question" regarding ethnic groups within the Austro-Hungarian Empire
>>540300418>Russians and Slavs have been nothing but kind to GermansYou don't know the half of it.After WW1, the German military was illegally rebuilt in secret Soviet training camps - in exchange for German technology.«After World War I, the German army, once the strongest in Europe, presented a pitiful sight. Under the Treaty of Versailles, it could not number more than 100,000 soldiers. The Germans were forbidden to have armored troops, military aviation, a submarine fleet and were banned from carrying out military research and development.However, the Reichswehr, as the armed forces of the Weimar Republic were called, had no intention of putting up with its pitiful fate. The German military was determined to develop their armed forces, but it was impossible to do on German territory, under the watchful eye of the Allied Powers.A solution was soon found: Germany turned to Soviet Russia with an offer of cooperation. That rogue state, which had just lived through a devastating Civil War and foreign intervention, was surrounded by hostile states and was not recognized by a single global power. As the commander-in-chief of the Reichswehr, Hans von Seeckt, noted: “The Versailles diktat can only be broken through close contact with a strong Russia.”Moscow was happy to end its blockade by establishing contacts with Germany. In addition, military cooperation with the still highly skilled German military was vital for the modernization of the Red Army.» - https://www.russiabeyond.com/history/332746-how-ussr-helped-germany
>>540300418Lenin turned out to be an idiot for having goodwill towards the Germans. The Tsars were proven right.
>>540300539>start to opress them and put them into gulagsGermany helped the Bolsheviks who killed the Germanic Tsar and removed the Volga Germans into power.
>>540301605what?thats the most ridiculous mental gymnastic i have ever heard
>>540300418germaphobia is a thing that exists in every country near germanyhistorically their country was the equivalent of a homeless nigger on fent creating brother wars in europe for no reason every 30 years
>>540301605>>540301890nope you're ignorant.The bolshevik movement was entitely funded by the german government+stalin.The bolshevik revolution was a german glow in the dark project during WW1.Lenin and all the other revolutionaries who did the revolution were sent to stpetersburg in russia from berlin in germany in a sealed armored train through scandinaviaIt's how lenin arrived in russia. Germany also is where the bolsheviks recieved their operational, tactical and military training, where all their weapons came from etc. it was entirely a german projecttrostky was planning to get funding from jewish bankers in NYC, which he did, but he was caught by british patrol boats and couldnt get to russia in time, he missed the revolution. So in the end the american jews didnt contribute any funding to the bolshevik revolution, though they were absolutely willing to it was just poor timing.then germany allied the bolshevik regimed and protected them from foreign invasions to restore order in russia.Both the governments of france and the united kingdom wanted to invade russia to kill the communists after WW1, but germany was protecting russia and doing so would mean marching a large part of the french and british army through germany to eastern europe then russia, and germany being the niggers they are would just declare war with half the french army in russia and half of it in france to take france quickly.That's the reason the bolshevik revolution succeeded, unconditional german state support.So yes, the state of germany is the sole responsible for all the crimes of every single communist regime to ever exist since they are the one who did the bolshevik revolution in russia and that all other communist regimes spawned from the USSR. The 120+ millions killed by communism is all germany's fault.>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealed_train>https://www.therailwayhub.co.uk/11242/from-the-archive-by-train-to-the-revolution-the-journey-that-shook-the-20th-century/
>>540303566>>540301890AND, something that always pissed me off, the supposedly great anti commie fuhrer, hitler, NEVER prosecuted the german decisionmakers and glowies who had orchestrated the alliance between the german goverment and the bolsheviks and the people who trained, funded and armed them.lenin arrived in petrograd (now st petersburg) in a heavily armored train guarded by german soldiers all over, alongisde dozens of other bolsheviks, all of whom had come from germany.
>>540300539Russians are the Africans of the East
>>540303566>The 120+ millions killed by communism is all germany's fault.thats a bit of stretch, mr before-hitler-there-was-napoleonjust because we sold them guns, doesnt mean we pulled the trigger
>>540303676> AND, something that always pissed me off, the supposedly great anti commie fuhrer, hitler, NEVER prosecuted the german decisionmakers and glowies who had orchestrated the alliance between the german goverment and the bolsheviks and the people who trained, funded and armed them.And what possible good would that have done twenty years after the fact? They did what they thought was right at the time to take Russia out of WW1. Hitler to make similar tough choices (MR pact) for geopolitical reasons.
>>540300723Because Lenin was considered a moderate who would end the war and free up Germany to focus on the Western Front for the big push. Even the Okhrana thought he was small fry in comparison to people like Trotsky. Myopic in hindsight sure but they worked with what they had. Why the fuck would Germany support a movement that explicitly sought an international revolution that already infected their ranks and would topple their monarchy? They didnt, they were just wrong in thinking Lenin was a moderate in comparison. Ffs Bolshevik was a slang term, they were called the RSDLP and were a smaller party in comparison to the SRs, Kadets, etc.
>>540300418I simply don't give a shit when non-Germans suffer and die.
>>540305313It clearly disproves your theory that the Germans just HATED the bolsheviks specifically.Now you are telling me that they hated SR and Kadets? The people who fought in the white army?
Germans are just buck-broken gimp slaves to the Cursed Island.I thought everyone knew this.
>>540305706Im not the other anon, I was only stating they sent back Lenin thinking he was a moderate who would pull Russia out of the war which would let them free up their forces in the East to move them West for a big push. As for whether they hated the Bolsheviks they hated Marxists in general for very obvious reasons such as calling for mutinies, revolution, etc. >The Kadets and SRs fought with the WhitesYes and no but this misses the point. The SRs were more loyal to the Reds than the Kadets although this fluctuates with time and as the Bolsheviks cemented their power. What I was saying was that when they sent him back Lenin wasnt a member of either and belonged to the RSDLP who were seen as moderates up until shortly after when they began to grow radical and seize power. Also you have to remember were dealing with an era when people were lumped under the label of criminal bandits or Whites.
>>540300418reddit tire image
>>540300418>whatfascism vs communismare you retarded op?yes
>>540305285>And what possible good would that have done twenty years after the fact?they are responsible for the holodomor, massacre of the russian aristocracy, russian intellectuals and scientists, russian kulaks, they the holodomorit's a matter of principle, a white nationalist movement doesnt tolerate or give a slap on the wrist to people directly responsible for the massacre of most high IQ and high quality whites in the largest european countryof course the real reason is that nazis were not white nationalists, they were german civic supremacists, who wanted to oppress or genocide all those who were not native german speakers, especially slavs. And yes germans did not have DNA tests and worked off vibes and language for all racial classifications, which creates situations such as the nazi movement being openly genocidal towards slavs (lebensraum, read mein kampf if you doubt he was open about wanting to conquer and wipe out slavs)... while east germans and prussians are racially slavic themselves. Oops.>>540305285>Hitler to make similar tough choices (MR pact) for geopolitical reasons.I know for certain fact from primary source sthat both france and the UK wanted to invade the soviet union during the russian civil war and the interwar period.Germanyy could just have allies with the entent, allowed their troops to go through, send their own army, ally with poland and save everyone from the bolsheviks. They chose not to.There also was nothing benevalent or pro white about molotov ribbentrop pakt.Both an early war with france and UK and eastern europe, or an early war during the itnerwar period, or a simple enforced containment policy with the anti commitern pakt being formalized into a full military alliance would have actually fought against the soviet union instead of literally handing the bolsheviks finland, poland, latvia, lituania, estonia, and belarus.their actions were pro themselves, never pro white, often very anti white.
>>540304759>mr before-hitler-there-was-napoleonnapoleon liberated countries, hitler oppressed them8 countries had revolutions to RETURN to the french system after the fall of napoleon.60% of napoleon's army was non french european recruits.the flag of italy today is the flag of french occupied milan.meanwhile 95% of the germany army was german, only the SS were volunteers. Hitler would have had 80 million soldiers from all over europe if he had been as popular as Napoleon.hitler also stole the salute from napoleon.>just because we sold them guns, doesnt mean we pulled the triggerthe entire revolution was orchestrated by german glow in the darksthe bolsheviks would not even have been in russia in 1917 if not for germany, the russian republic would have stabilized and the bolsheviks wouldnt have taken power.germany still>created the original coup>gave them training weapons and money>sent all the leaders of the revolution in a german train from berlin to russia under german escort>protected the soviet state from the western entente powers who wanted to invade russia to remove them from power>didnt punish the few germans who had all these brilliant ideas even after the holodomor and all the soviet atrocities when hitler took power>was the first and only ally of the soviet union>handed away all of eastern europe to bolshevik rule, meaning collectivisation and mass execution of antisemites in eastern europe, and refused any military collaboration with non germans against the soviet unionall that is "very shitty behavior"napoleon meanwhile just went around giving freedom of speech and centralized efficient meritocratic rule to peopleanother perfect example of how fucked up the nazis were in the head: napoleon gave the dutch french citizenship, hitler despite his whole germanic obsession never gave the dutch german citizenship and instead gave them harsh oppression.I guess the "dutch" werent "deutsch" enough for hitler to be considered citizen
