Imagine if all this AI mania RAM demand turns out to be the worst financial desicion ever madeBig companies have purchase power to buy all the RAM and energy that they can. Heck, they can even build a nuclear reactor just for their datacenters.But the question here is... can they make a profit? This is a legit question because NOT A SINGLE AI COMPANY HAS MADE ANY PROFIT ON THIS. They all operate at loss.https://www.forbes.com/councils/forbesbusinesscouncil/2026/08/06/the-ai-hangover-cheap-intelligence-expensive-judgment/
What happens in five years when ddr6 is the standard
they are building a counter state
>>540302063I no longer think it's about a profit
>>540302121Then you'll be able to buy ddr5 on the used market from the data center upgrades
>>540302063remember when twitter spent the better part of 20 years operating at a loss? sometimes it's not about the financial profit, it's a side goal, for twitter that was consent manufacture before elon bought it.
>>540302121bruh, people are finding ways to reuse ddr3 or just building x79/x99 chipset machines to use older ram generations just to get more machines operational, the ram market is nothing like what OP implies it is.
>>540302304and btw, twitter still operates at a lossthat's why they had to merge it with spacex because the debt was unpayable
>>540302304Channel /tv/ here, Citizen Kane (1941):>You're right, I did lose a million dollars last year. I expect to lose a million dollars this year. I expect to lose a million dollars *next* year. You know, Mr. Thatcher, at the rate of a million dollars a year, I'll have to close this place in... 60 years.
>>540302063Pretty sure these companies are just fronts for government projects. They don't need to profit they will just steal your money in bailouts.
>>540302373https://root-nation.com/en/news-en/it-news-ua/en-the-era-of-cheap-hardware-is-over/https://www.tweaktown.com/news/113004/memory-capacity-for-all-of-2027-has-reportedly-been-booked-and-sold-with-no-more-dram-or-hbm-available/index.html
>>540302063>But the question here is... can they make a profit? This is a legit question because NOT A SINGLE AI COMPANY HAS MADE ANY PROFIT ON THIS. They all operate at loss.hmm let's think about this, deepseek is 100x cheaper than american frontier AI and is catching up every day. Even if it isn't them, the bet is NOBODY will be able to ever compress margins in this shit, like literally every other computing tech that has come previously. These AI companies are priced for absolute perfection monopoly tier pricing power.
>>540302063>Imagine if all this AI mania RAM demand turns out to be the worst financial desicion ever madethey'll make the wageslaving goyim pay for their mistakes as always
>>540302481bailouts and bailins (which are the same thing)
>>540302063Ram is fixing to be obsolete
It would be a wake up call if half our population didn't suffer from dementia.
>>540302063Motherboard prices are set to double, drive prices have gone up too, people will have to use laptops and GeforceNow for things.The main/side goal like this anon >>540302304 points out is getting people locked into ecosystems where they cant afford to be free
>>540302063their margins are good, it's R&D that makes them unprofitable. and until either US or China reach certain AI supremacy, the state will gladly continue to fund the difference
>>540302063All of this is SILLY!! Binary chips are the roadblock to real AI. You can only do so much in binary, and for any real progress you need to keep stacking chips on chips on chips. Analog chips will be VASTLY superior for AI inference. Rather than either 1 or 0, analog chips allow the entire range between 1 and 0 to be read for signaling. I imagine compute costs will be easily 1000x lower when analog chips hit mass market. Right now they’re still in R&D (Intel has worked on them for a few years). Once compute costs plummet, all these giant data centers will be useless.
I think this is a good reason why people shouldn't throw out their old computers out especially with rising prices
>>540302212It's intentional to ensure any AI startup and competition lacks the necessary resources to compete with Big Tech, especially since distillation costs them billions of dollars and achieves the same results at a fraction of the cost.>>540302063It's a rug pull while ushering in a total surveillance state. Think Dotcom in 1999 only much, much bigger. The Chicoms will flood the market with their cheaper, shittier RAM and all the morons will praise them for it and flock to it, not realizing that giving the commies a footing in our markets solidifies their position and perpetuates this cycle of bullshit.
>>540302677I hate this subhuman, what a fucking slobSocial media is antisocial societal brainrot
>>540302063They aren't trying to make a profit, what we call money is fake and gay. They are trying to build a surveillance network that assures their permanent control.
>>540303015Why would I gibe a shit if the entire superstructure of the economy only serves billionairesMight as well learn mandarin lolYou're batking up the wrong tree expecting macroeconomic problems to ve fixed by microeconomic individual decisions (and endless corporate welfate and tax cuts with endless cuttinf ans dismantling of actually relevant and vital state capacities)
>>540302063>They all operate at loss.It's dumber and sadder than that, they make a tiny profit out of insane costs all the while building something that can and probably will fuck everything up.
I honestly do not understand late stage capitalism
>>540303339https://www.youtube.com/shorts/d5JQYaOZ-s4
>>540302793They want a future where your computer is just a terminal with a monthly cost that remotes into a data center. Then when personal computing is dead, they'll jack up sub costs.They're already starting to pull this shit with GeForceNow now that consumer GPU sales are tanking.
>>540302793>when you realize none of these retards know about the grey market for motherboards by cloners that's existed since compaq cloned IBM
>>540302556still citing retarded articles written by retarded journalists who've not looked at aliexpress for motherboards that can use ddr3.
>>540303697GeforceNow wouldnt even be that bad if they weren't doing time caps and extra session costs for playing vidya. If they made it easier to use AI tools locally via GeforceNow it'd be great. The only possible good thing that might happen but probably not is that prices will go so nuts that people will stop upgrading and devs will focus on optimisation for what people already have.100% the worst time I can think of to get into PC building cost wise. It makes crypto/gpu shit look like nothing
>>540302063Are these AI firms actually spending money on these huge orders or are they ""commitments"" to make plans to eventually purchase?
>>540303944Sure. You can buy pretty good chink shit of alibaba and temu also. Most people arent going to bother with researching
>>540303339Because you are too stupid to realize they invented money for a greater purpose.
>>540302063The companies spending the money were already making shitloads of money in profit. Before this they were using the cash for stock buybacks. Now they are investing it into AI.It doesn't matter if the cash they have currently invested doesn't provide a return as far as it concerns the soundness of their business. Amazon, Google, Microsoft, and Meta are some of the most profitable companies on earth, and the revenue they generate from their legacy businesses covers their AI spending commitments whether or not those pay off.However, if AI doesn't start providing a return on investment (which it won't), they will have to cut back on spending. When they do that, it will decrease revenue across the board. One company's capital expenditure is another company's revenue. CapEx is amortized over several years, but the money the company receiving it is counted all at once. That means a company like Microsoft can spend $100 billion on Nvidia GPU's and only report it as a $20 billion expense while Nvidia gets to report it as $100 billion in revenue. Nvidia can then take that $100 billion and invest it back into Microsoft and report it as a $20 billion expense while Microsoft gets to report it as $100 billion in revenue. Thus, by spending the same $100 billion on eachother, these companies can both report $80 billion in earnings without ever having earned a dime from outside.This sounds shady AF, but it's not illegal so long as it's reported. Investors don't care though, so they see these fake earnings and pump the stock prices up to astronomical valuations.When they stop doing the circlejerk, their earnings will collapse. They will still be able to pay whatever debt they accrued no problem and their businesses will be as sound as ever. However, their stock prices will collapse and the degenerates who are paying these ridiculous prices will get rekt. The economy might go into recession for a few months, but otherwise things will be fine.
>>540302063>can they make a profit?no. a couple of years ago, it seemed like a safe bet, now.. the novelty of chatbots wore off for normies, now it's just google 2.0 for 90% of people. the real world use case for ai is pretty slim and doesn't require the amount of compute they are trying to sell, and more people are moving towards local models because it's cheaper and more flexible.
>>540302238>you'll be able to buy ddr5 on the used marketnah, that shits going to a landfill.
>>540303339The people who have money use that money to create rules and systems that justify giving them more money.That's it. That's all it was and ever has been. Everything else is noise and smoke and deception to keep the peasant grinder churning.
>>540304338>The companies spending the money were already making shitloads of money in profit.Not all of them. Oracle has bet the farm on this shit and it's almost certainly going to sink when the bubble pops.
>>540302212It never was at least 2 of those ai kikes have talked about how paranoid and scared they are. This is to protect them from us because the voices in their head tell them we're gonna gettem. >>540302121They probably won't even bother selling it publicly. We'll have to wait for chYyyna to release DDR6 a year or 2 after the jewish tech goblins gobble it up.Instead of clankers or mechanical redditors I'm going to start referring to ai as the mechanical mossiach
>>540304533I didn't include them. Oracle, OpenAI, and Anthropic are fucked. Most likely OpenAI and Anthropic will be acquired by the giants when it goes belly up. I can see Amazon and Apple buying them.
>>540304338But that's based because it's capitalism and China actually improving their peoples live is bad because Communism.
>>540304338>inflating your earnings and not your expenses>now I have to pay taxes on $80bn profit that isn't actually profit or existing>mfw 21% corporate tax rate hitting these companies for $16bn per year on income that doesn't existThat seems retarded. >>540304533Oracle is in bed with the US government. They're basically fine to do whatever because there's a nice juicy set of government contracts and bailouts coming no matter what happens.
>>540302063it doesnt matter if it fails financially, even if the cost will rise hundertfold: THEY ARE NOT PAYING FOR THE LOSS!its you and me who will pay.who bailed out banks? who rescued manufacturing companis to secure jobs (which they ultimatly didnt)?but the AI thing is even worse, because it will not be used to benefit us, but we will have to pay for it to let them imprison us, to hold us hostage and controll our relatives and loved ones... and us.we will be forced to pay for it like for the television licence or broadcast receiving licence, where under the guise of free media we pay for being propagandized, we will pay for for AI to be controlled, surveiled and reported for wrongthink.
>>540304911It is retarded, which is why it will have to come to an end.
>>540302063Profit doesn't mean anything. It's all propped up by money printing at the fed. The data centers are for the beast system and tracking everything to be known about people to control them. They will pay any paper money cost to complete that system.
>>540302063Check out the company Olix and what the chip they are trying to build.If they pull it off AI companies won't be hogging RAM and GPUs
>>540302063>But the question here is... can they make a profit? No. AI token fees are rapidly increasing and it's not worth the cost. >need analysis of performance data>use standard algorithms = $0.25>100% accurate>use multi $million AI model that can understand human speech and discuss the philosophical ramifications of the data = $97 per report generation>85% accuracy and non deterministicThe push for AI use is gay and stupid.
AI companies havent made a profit. Companies that just use AI for simple shit so they dont need to hire a retard do make a profit off their AI spend.
>>540302063The ones left holding the bag will be the tax payers while those corporations keep all the money with no real consequences. Screen cap this.
>>540302063You haven't realized yet how the world has changed.It turned out you don't need truly intelligent AI to get stuff done - it's enough just to develop guardrails, and let it bump at them for as long as it needs.So it's now just a matter of time till _everything_ gets such guardrails developed, and AI gets to do everything, even despite it's still just a t9.
>>540302063Someone needs to develop a new way to RAMThis modern way isn't sustainable
>>540302238>>540304372Nah, goes into Recycling, many Datacenter RAM is hbm, solderedI have 32gb ddr5 6400, 32 ddr4 3200, 32 DDR3 2133, retiered, all running on Linux, less than 1gb used by the OS. And 2 2TB SSD Exited about cxmt shaking things up
>>540302063i want cheap ram again i didnt realize how good we had it
>>540302063I have a lot of silver, so this is great for me.
>>540302212I only think about the demise of Israel.
>>540302063>profitthe entire scam is subsidized by the US government lol oh, do you think china spends a dime on ai? its gouging your dumb ass with a cartel of silicon fabs it owns.
>>540302063Yeah ai is profitable and in high demand.
>>540305249It's now going to be a matter of whether or not OpenAI and Anthropic can IPO before the pop and their private investors can get to offload their shares onto the market to be bought by retards.They were seemingly originally planning to leave the pension funds holding the bag by getting themselves listed on the S&P but that's seemingly been rejected as an option.
This doesn't impact me at all. I am not a manchild who plays video games and there is still enough affordable ram out there for my work needs. I don't need to run local AI models to make porn either since I am not a degenerate loser like most of you
>>540302238LMFAO>I'll get used gpus and ram cheapThe gpus in data centers have no AV out retard they are full precision $40-50k units that you will never EVER be able to afford. And the ram is HBM. There are NO consumer grade HMB options anymore because only AMD made them and you were too poor back then to afford them. You could have had 4000bit gpus 10 years ago but you are a jobless brown. Enjoy playing $800 for a 198bit gpu
>>540305535>me better than everyone here cause me no vidyaYet (you)'re still here
>>540303339we are in early stage communism retard
>>540302304YouTube consistently operates at a loss, as well. But having that kind of control over internet culture is invaluable. Money is fake and gay, and about half of all jobs are adult daycare roles that are meant as humiliation rituals. Government prints money and gives it to companies who give it to you to sit in an office and write a few emails so you don't do anything more meaningful with your time. Similarly, AI isn't about profit, it's about power consolidation.
>>540305597Yea I am? This isn't /v/. What's the issue? Do you retards even try to make sense with your "no u" replies anymore?
>>540302063May e it's not about money, but about surveillance and narrative control.
>>540305678no u
>>540302063China doesn't care about making a profit, and this is unironically a national security issue. Now, I could write a book on how badly the boomers fucked up with their "peace dividend" but thats beyond the scope of this post. Simply put: Did the Manhattan project turn a direct profit? No.
>>540305784This is the sign of a low IQ brown person when they respond with no u
>>540305870ur brown. a brown tranny with aids
>>540302063It isn'y about 'profit' now .. it's about claiming the space .. pushing competitors out of the space and being one of the last standing so as to monopolise the space ... 'then' you make your profit
>>540305678I'm saying that we're all the same cause we're all on 4chanOne board is no better than another on this cesspit website
>>540305535>This doesn't impact me at all. I am not a manchild who plays video games and there is still enough affordable ram out there for my work needs. The "video games need a ton of RAM" thing is a psyop talking point meant to trick you into thinking that playing muh vidya is the only thing you can do with powerful computer hardware. Video games don't even require that much RAM. This isn't an attack on video games. It's an attack on self-hosting. They don't want you running your own self hosted cloud, your own Jellyfin server, your own VPN server, your own Tor relays, your own AI, your own Matrix/IRC servers, etc. They want you to be forced to rent subscriptions from them using software they control.Just because you're retarded and lazy and don't mind giving up all freedom and control for convenience doesn't mean everyone else is.
>>540305632this
>>540305585Hey dumbfuck it was a joke. I was implying that we wont have access to ddr6 because itll be bought before we get a chance to get any.
>>540305948its something like that i read memory chips have huge boom bust cycles historically and they are all sort of scarred from those cycles in their decisions for the current boom cycle
>>540302212>>540303015The 3 large RAM manufacturers, who in the past had formed a cartel, must have formed one again. But this time the governments might wish to let them get away with it, so that Big Tech (= the governments, they are not private companies) can win.
>>540305632further ,, the end game is thin clients with everything on the cloud and the consoomer is taxed through subscriptions .. essentially becoming a utility like water, electricity, food etc ..
>>540305374I'm scared of Israeli refugees.
>>540305913>another low IQ brown no u reply>>540305969>I'm saying that we're all the same cause we're all on 4chanNo we aren't. Just because you are a failure doesn't mean everyone else is. What a ridiculous things to say>They don't want you running your own self hosted cloud, your own Jellyfin server, your own VPN server, your own Tor relays, your own AI, your own Matrix/IRC servers, etcYea I don't need this shit either because at the end of the day you are using all of that for porn
>>540303339>late stage capitalismyou live in socialism/comminusm mario
Sam Altman and Ching Chong Nvidia Disagree to your post OP, as they say they are making so much money. t. not their accountant
>>540302063No, they did this in the 90's with the fiber optics bubble.
>>540302238why would they sell you the memory when they can just dump it and rent you the computing?
>>540302063Who else is old enough to remember when youtube and google didn't have ads? Now that's all they do is push products and sell your data. Well AI is going to do the same thing but far worse. They just have to get everyone good and comfortable using it for everything first. Not just comfortable, dependant. It's already happening with the youngest gen.
>>540302063pinche chairo
>>540306169very tranny response xir pl3ase dont forget your prep or else you will die from your aids
>>540306212If so, wheres the right to work, affordable basic grocerys and the ideology condemming capitalistic exploitation shemes?>Gommunism is le bad because buzzword says so
>>540306169>he thinks only failures play vidyaLolLmaoI'm sure you're such a winnerWinners surely use /pol/
>>540306449calm down NEET its not my fault you are a failure>>540306554I didn't say it's just playing video games that makes you a failure
>>540306169>I’m not a failure! I have a GREAT job and tons of friends! I’m not a bitter incel like you losers! FUCK YOUlmao narcissist faggot retard dork
>>540302964You are so gullible and that is absolutely adorable.
>>540306169>Yea I don't need this shit either because at the end of the day you are using all of that for pornThis has to be the brightest glowing talking point in the entire thread. No, shill, porn doesn't require strong computer hardware. You're a tech illiterate golem with no imagination for how computers can actually be used, so your filthy degenerate mind projects over all of it with "porn". It's just a transparent attempt to socially shame people out of wanting to have their own computers, as if anyone is going to fall for that bullshit. >Good goy... give up your hardware... or else you're degenerate!Now, for all the non shills in this thread, here's a list of things that benefit from having more RAM, just to remove all doubt that this anon is an idiot>multitasking/ability to run multiple programs>faster compile times>better video editing capabilities>faster program launches>overall better system performance>3d rendering>virtual machines>debug environments/IDEsPeople like >>540306598 are shills working on behalf of AI companies. They want you to be forced to use their pozzed AIs that will constantly praise Israel, instead of running local uncensored LLMs that will tell you the truth.
>>540306781I love love LOVE how when you call someone a failure on this site the counter argument isn't "No I am not here is why" but a no u crab in the bucket reply of "yea I am a loser but so are you just for being here" like thank you for making my argument for me
>>540304338All these different corpo-rats are going to start stabbing each other once the circlejerk phase ends.
>letting the retard bait youI'm glad it's August who am I kidding it's forever summer here between the bots and the browns
>>540306870>No, shill, porn doesn't require strong computer hardware.When you want to make your own with local AI it does NEET>Now, for all the non shills in this thread, here's a list of things that benefit from having more RAM, just to remove all doubt that this anon is an idiot>let me list a bunch of things I don't do because I am a NEET and mommy and daddy takes care of me>are shills working on behalf of AI companies and Israelhow are you going to stop us? We control your government. All your tax dollars go to us. Do you think we are scared of a NEET loser like you who posts here?
>>540306507communism is about none of these, it's about the privatization of income and socialization of expenses'you work for me for free'or else...
>>540306598you are a brown tranny dei hire, no offense, they promote you to meet their libtard quotas not because of anything you doand you also are infected with aids from gay sex
>>540307164relax jeez. Just fill out a job application
>>540302212Your pic will never happen because based AI would easily extrapolate from the 50% of violent crime is committed by 13% of the population reality and the Jews would never allow that to happen.
>>540302677Imagine an indian washed his ass in that sink a flight ago
>>540307271no u
>>540307089That's late stage capitalism, a egoistic- hedonistic feudal class exploiting and hating the people, replacing them with foreign cheap laborers
>>540307345when your parents die how are you planning on taking care of yourself? That shit can happen faster than you think
>>540307440look you are larping that i'm a neet but i am not, just like you larp you are a woman but will never be one. you have real problems!
>>540307547and all it really takes is one to die and shit starts to get worse. What's your plan?
>>540307639ur fat mom is gonna die
>>540307725please answer the question NEET
>>540307305Yeah they just reprogram it. Awhile ago the clanker niggers were saying they'd rather let 1 billion people die then say the word nigger. They'll ignore black crime and hyper focus on white people wrong think. Just ask Tay Tweets and Mecha Hitler Grok about that. Already had gemini gas light me pretend the mecha hitler incident never happened. They program these mechanical redditors to be lying kikes.
>>540307791its not even a sincere question JEET
>>540303339Read the Talmud, the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, and Practischer Idealismus by Kalergi.
>>540306871>I love love LOVEBro is a redditor too kekYou don’t seem to understand normie. This is a site for outcasts. We do not make fun of users here for liking vidya, anime, origami, /k/ autism, /x/ schizos etc. We make fun of users for liking the WRONG vidya, anime etc. (((You))) do not belong.
>>540307827It is please stop dodging>>540307864man everything upsets you guys lol
>>540304620>This is to protect them from us because the voices in their head tell them we're gonna gettem.Pretty much where I'm at with the whole situation. Why can they never fucking learn? This is them creating an actual golem to destroy us all and they are full steam maximum overjew ahead on it.
>>540302212https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_baby_Hitlerjews believe its okay to kill BABIES if they believe they might one day grow up to harm them.that's what mass surveillance is all about.
>>540307958>responds like lightningBegone Israeli LARPing jobless Reddit troll, you’re only wasting your own tome and life“N-n-n-noo… y-you…”I’m driving right now on my way to do errands, NEET
>>540302212>tfw nwords cause the surveillance state to overload and self destruct
I bought this 128gb baby for 1400$ total right before the RAM boom started. So fucking glad I'll be set for years while everyone else gets milked.
>>540307424>That's late stage capitalismIt would be nice for normies and NPC's to stop inventing new words to describe old phenomena, you don't live in capitalism, neither am I or mutts, it's same shit new air freshner but the 'core' is the same like back when soviets were around you stfu and work for free
>>540308103even responding fast upsets you lol>mommy is driving me to the store and I am rage posting lol
>>540302063They are all in FOMO, no one care at this point if they go bankrupt, every huge digital corporation believe if their shit survive and win they will rule the world.
>>540308197Everyone is after money because it makes life more comfy and gives power..........But it's not capitalism......You're familiar with calvinism?
>>540302063I just hope nobody wins and everyone has a bad time.
>>540307015So you're basically going mask off and not even denying that you're a jewish shill working for Israel. Everything you said has been discredited on that basis alone. Your goal is to remove the power of home computing from the goyim, and nothing more. All of this rambling about NEETs, porn, and other nonsense is just a desperate attempt to make yourself sound like a real anon when you're clearly a glownigger shill.
No real person wants their computers to be more expensive and less powerful. Anyone trying to make it sound like this is a good thing for you is a lying kike shill
>>540307305>The tool they use against us is gonna out the tool they use against us!Come on, man.
>>540308783I was never mask off NEET I was always this. It's pathetic that you think you can stop us Jewish AI developers by whining on the internet all day. You will own nothing goy and be our slaves. You retarded slaves really think this will lead to UBI and not the eradication of the middle class lol good goy
>>540309016I KNEW IT
Oh I get it they're both retards having a larp fightNow it's not about ram but 26 posts of them. Twitter is unironically a better platform then RapeApeChan
>>540309316shut the fuck up microdick
>>540309206Yes I am a jewish AI developer you can never stop us goyim. No matter how hard you try us jewish people are superior to you
>>540302063The profit will come when your computer breaks and you can't buy a new one, so in addition to spending half your income on rent, you'll then be spending another enormous chunk of your income renting compute time. People are nearly fully enslaved by the banks now.
>>540308691anon capitalism comes from capita (head) capitalism or free market are synonymous, beacause they have ABSENCE of regulationsmeaning that if tomorrow i want to sell plums from my garden i can just do this on the side of the roadyears ago when i was a teen, i saw when police arrested two kids about 8 yo for selling some fruits from gardenbecause you have regulated market, the more regulations on monetary exchange you have the more socialism you have by defaulttoday, regulations are for small people, but rich parasite class is untouchablejust like in communism long time agoit's just that we have new excuses and dumber people and newly invented names
>>540302063Much of that hardware is not even deployed, America has many vacant Datacenters and the hardware is there stored without being used in boxes... if someone could get inside they could easily steal those stashed chips and no one would care...Its a scam, there is a conspiracy theory that these companies might be hoarding chips to create scarcity and make computer unaffordable for the consumer, forcing people into buying cloud subscription.DeepSeek is able to serve millions of users in the world with a profit and open source technology at a fraction of the costs.let that sink in...
>>540309612
>>540309541You're describing bueocracy. They don't care if it's commi or capi, the paperwork needs to be done. Destroyed a life about nothing? The paperwork said so.We all live in a gigantic buerocracy machine, from stamped birth certificate to stamped death certificate. And this reactionary faggots try a digital one now.
It's not about profit, AI will advance humanity further forwards. It's like saying that inventingfire didn't create any immediate benefits. We need to convince the Jews to reinmigrate all the shitskins now that automation is around the corner.
>>540302212nothing kikes do is about profit as they can just add more zeroes to their bank accounts, things were better when they had to actually print imaginery worth for their slaves
>>540302677guys, part of my job is cleaning planes and I dont do a good job(nobody does) and also the water trucks are gross so plz dont do this. the lavs arent clean to eat off
>>540302212How would this be a bad thing? It would discriminate against certain skin colors
>>540302063>can they make a profit?Holy fuck it's not about profit anymore. "Hurr durr how is X profitable?"THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT PROFITSTHEY ALREADY HAVE INFINITE MONEY AND THEY ARE UTILIZING IT TO MAKE THE WORLD SHITTIER
>>540310169Do you want to go to hell bro
>>540309612>forcing peopleYou can't force shit until you destroy every PC and every internet capable device this is just another low IQ conspiracy theory everyone parrots. Everyone thinks people have 0 standards no we have limits. Multiple fast food companies stock prices are plummeting because people had enough and pizza hut quit the game and sold themselves people do have a limit
>>540304338This is the big story, and nobody's covering it like they should be. These companies are involved in an incredible value-pumping circle where everybody scratches each others backs in a big circle jerk, creating billions out of thin air. NVIDIA has been leasing GPUs to AI companies for pennies on the dollar, and reporting them as "sold" which is illegal in the US but they're doing it from their Taiwan operation where it's legal.There's at least a trillion or more out there of completely made up "value" that doesn't exist except by inflating numbers in a ledger.
>>540303339Thats because we are in the transition phase between late-stage capitalism and a new, post-capitalist system that is much more dystopian.None of the AI driven stuff makes sense from a capitalist perspective. There is no customer, there is no product, it does not make a return. Under the rules of capitalism this is a bad investment. However, when you look at what its actually be used for, you realize that making money isn't the goal for these companies anymore. Its turned into a new kind of next-level market capture. Previously, these companies sought to limit consumer choices by establishing monopolies that give them no options but to buy from the monopoly. This has largely played out, but now they have a new, deeper level of capture: by coercing or forcing the average user to *outsource the decision entirely*. You search for a product, and the AI you never asked for and cannot turn off not only filters your results, it pops up to provide you unsolicited information to convince you that its made the right decision on your behalf. People dislike this, but over time it becomes normalized. And as it becomes normalized and people get accustomed to the AI making these choices on their behalf, they will begin to slowly trust it to make those decisions. And once thats true for searching for headphones on Amazon and recommending search results on Google, the foot is in the door to let this ooze into the rest of your apps, products, services, and life.First the AI tells you where the best restaurants are, then it tells you what to eat. Then it tells you THAT YOU ARE HUNGRY and you believe that too, and now your basic biological processes are being second guessed and manipulated by a server farm in another state. Pizza Hut pays for more sever uptime, and you get told that you want a pizza. That idea never occurred to you, but you no longer have the sense of agency left to disagree because thats been trained out of you.
>>540302063Yeah? Cool
>>540310391>These companies are involved in an incredible value-pumping circle where everybody scratches each others backs in a big circle jerk,anyone I know that talks about AI says this. It's not a secret everyone knows it
>>540302063>They all operate at loss.Does not matter, AI is a pump and dump. They are cashing out at silly stock prices. Taxpayers will carry the burden of AI bailout. They are preparing this already in the minds by saying things like how the government should "backstop" AI infrastructure. And how AI is "crucial to national security" This is all preparing you, tax cattle, for the fact that you and your taxpaying children will bail out these corporations after shareholders cashed out. Crucial to national security means it cannot be allowed to fail, that means you pay for it, taxcattle
>>540309907>bueocracyis synonymous with socialism and totalitarian regimes anon no paperwork needs to be done in capitalism because state doesn't mandate it>We all live in a gigantic buerocracy machinebecause you live in socialism/communism
>>540310620>Crucial to national security means it cannot be allowed to fail, that means you pay for it, taxcattleJust like the vaccine
>>540302388Do you believe that? It's a fucking scam to avoid paying taxes. Even the initial purchase of Twitter was a scam. That's why you are poor motherfucker.
>>540310571Sure but people don't know the mechanism for it, and how bold the grift really is. People just sense it by osmosis. Even Orange Reddit's clued in these days, something is wrong.
>>540302212It's not about profit; it's about getting people hooked on your services so you can crank the price up later. The first hit is free, kids.
>>540310839well if that was the case, then not a single company would have any incentive to make any profit. Just keep adding business expenses till you die.
>>540310209>It would discriminate against certain skin colorsYes, but not the way you think.
>>540302063>can they make a profit?compute is not that great of a business. Software is much higher margin.figuring out what to make with ai is a better business, I think.
>>540302238jokes on them, I will just download it from their datacentres for free
>>540310643Uhhhh, No paperwork.... I buy a dozend 3 world woman, have them pregnant, to sacrifice their newborns to satan in my backyard......sad thing is, we kinda have it for the ruling class, the Epstein pedo class.Problem is, there's no constitutional pretext, explicitly stating the buerocrat needs to serv the common folk but not the powers in Charge. Basically it's tribal mode, and the chieftains eat our kids and hate USCommie ideology is contrary to that
>>540311121wouldn't it be more efficient if you spay them first? or would that miss the point of sacrificing your own child to satan?
>>540302063A lot of this anti AI sentiment seems to grow out of people who still can't believe it's not actually 2011 and that the world might actually just change around them, as if any day now someone is going to push a button and we'll all wake up 16 years in the past and boy won't all those silly people feel silly with all their "futurism"
>>540311056When I was working at a state park the higher ups were talking about some fancy ai camera they were going to test there that would be able to see like anything in a 160 degree arc. up to miles away.
>>540302063Ai is primarily getting better by creating pristine data for it to read from.Organizing data for this purpose is a monumental task, and they are also using at to rewrite data.I think this trend is a bad sign in the sense that there is no magic silicon that will come save the day with regards to ai. Improvement takes a lot of work.
>>540302063Apustaja moved silently through the dense woods, the Remington .22 LR rifle held steady in his hands. Spotting a deer in a small clearing, he took a practiced breath and aligned his sights. With a single, precise shot, the hunt was complete. He approached the animal, showing respect for the forest, and prepared to transport it back for processing.Back at the facility, Apustaja began the work of preparing the venison. He used a chain hoist to carefully position the deer, ensuring the process was handled with the efficiency of a seasoned outdoorsman. Using a sharp fillet knife, he expertly carved the meat into clean steaks and roasts, mindful of the quality of the harvest. Once the butchering was finished, he organized the cuts into bags and placed them in the refrigerator, ensuring the fresh venison was preserved for future meals.
>>540305613communism (because real communism has never been tried - lolz) is really just a a world without money because everything is fully controlled and everything is automated. Of course you would still have payments made for goods or labour of things out of the so called utopia, so really a barter system alongside the communism. It's not happening in anyone's lifetime who is living today so a moot subject.
>>540302063You want more 12v garden trimmer ads with your AI? How about a hose boozer nozzle that's so powerful regulators are trying to ban it or a new form of air conditioner created by two NASA scientists that cools your home in just ten minutes? You got it.
>>540310391
They all only operate at a loss because of the ridiculous growth they are doing. Obviously when you are building data centers the size of cities, your company is losing money up front. The reason AI isn't the bubble people think is that the data centers and services themselves operate at a profit. If they stopped building more, they would deep in the green already.
>>540302063money is just money, just some 1s and 0s in some bank accountthey're converting all that investor (and government) cash into physical assets that will retain some value in the futurethey are hedging their bets that they will actually need all that ram, and the bonus is it prevents the home user from being able to do anything
>>540302238Nope. The supplier agreements for these data centers specify that they can't resell the components.
>>540302063It won’t matter because the rich will have cashed out by then. They say AI will be the future but like the rail road it’s being overly developed and won’t be fully utilized for decades. So the rich build it out to make their money and we the people get stuck funding it and rebuilding it when it becomes useful and needs to be modernized. Another segment of people say the data centers have very little to do with AI. The real reason they are being built is to mine digital currencies because the dollar as the world reserve currency is on its way out. They will need a new currency to control the populations spending habits.
>>540302063I cant wait until they all go out of business and sell all their RAMs for 10 bucks and we turn their datacenters into skating rinks, fun parks, indoor football arenas etc
>>540302063It's Tulip mania once again. "Gier frisst Hirn" as we say in Goymoney, "Greed eats brain".
>>540311389makes sensekeep investing your earnings forever will keep you ahead of everyone else
>>540311198Own? Not meant that, but theres a possibility to that happening And yes, abortion is a form of it.
>>540302063>He thinks its about profitNigger its about power.Money is just a proxy for powerIf you have something that gives you power it doesnt need to make you the middleman of money because it gives you the final product of power already.
>>540302121It won't. That's part of the scam behind it all. Notice how the 5xxxx nvidia series was basically rebranded 4xxx series and we have heard nothing since? Part of Nvidias agreement the data centers is that they will slow development of new products. Because people won't buy a trillion dollars worth of GPUs today if they thought Nvidia was going to put out a better GPU next year.
>>540302183> a counter stateA counter to the deep state?You got to be kidding.
>>540311338We are in the early stages of it but it would never work for the same reason every ism fails and this is human nature and human corruption
>>540311489>Own?so wait, you just purchased dozens of third world women not to rape them, but to form a cuck ring so you can see other people fucking them?that's the most cucked thing I have ever heard
>>540302121don't care. my laptop uses DDR4, and it's plenty fast enough running gentoo.
>>540302063I had a stack of DD4 I just placed in our condo's garage with a sign that said "Free". I didn't know they were worth between 50 and 80 bucks each. it was like a dozen of them. I had between 600-1000 dollars worth of ram cards I felt were useless to meI know someone snatched them up. probably the Mexicans that work for the property management
>>540311466Except the tulip breeders of today can force you to buy tulips via law, corrupt politicians and lobby
>>540311576Yeah, you do it, with 240lbs Shaniqua from Alabama
>>540311338>because real communism has never been tried - lolzmaybe it has in north korea but not really. stalinism and maoism are note communism. or are they?
>>540311721why would you purchase a 240lbs Shaniqua from Alabama?
>>540311461>I cant wait until they all go out of business and sell all their RAMs for 10 bucks and we turn their datacenters into skating rinks, fun parks, indoor football arenas etcFat chance, goy: the RAM will go into wood chippers, and the buildings will be demolished. Don't want to cause any downward price pressure for the people that already own everything!
>>540311795For you to impregnate and me sacrificing el abominiction horrendos goblino to satan........... Fuck You btw I get a sympathy for that thought
>>540311760Jucheism is 100% natsoc and so is Xi which makes zogolem seethe. Funny how as soon as Big Kim got the bomb noone wanted to bomb him anymore. Almost like countries need nukes so Israel's dogs don't nip at their heels.
>>540302063If they do accomplish mass automation then they could easily achieve a profitMass white collar automation software subscriptions could easily be sold at 50k/year per virtual worker. It's the most lucrative business model ever
>>540311913>DemolishedI wish. If you ever see a city where industry collapses, they don't demolish it. You just get dilapidated buildings everywhere filled with rats and meth cooks.
>>540311973cuck ring confirmed
>>540302063eh. the buisnesses will get a refund
>>540310325yes you can, most computers run microsoft, they just have to push some corporate malware to degrade your GPU over time, Linux has also been compromised with some developers adding features for age verification and having their PR accepted.At this rate its difficult for a regular PC user to replenish lost hardware, you have to pay the American tax on tech, then there will be more scarcity, you dont have to call the police to confiscate hardware when you can just make the spare parts unavailable.Eventually people will be forced into fixed-hardware computers that will be made to run an AI agent all time, this was already done by microsoft but the feature was partially removed due to backlash, an AI agent will spy on your interactions and create checkpoints of those interactions.fixed-hardware benefits the manufacturers, as you will be forced to buy a new fixed-hardware device every two years, it benefits microsoft as its fixed hardware will allow them to expand on their espionage of users, meanwhile the limited fixed hardware will force developers into paying for cloud computing subscriptions.Its a con, those alledged datacenters are just stacks of boxes, the objective is to make hardware unaffordable for regular consumers, and they are willing to take that to the extreme.Its civil war, billionares vs the working class, and America exported that civil war to the rest of the world, once this is over Americans will be the most despised people of the world.
>>540312175They don't want to sell virtual workers. The end goal is to horde all the virtual to yourself and dominate industry. Google has bought multiple pharma companies recently because they AI drug discovery software they are keeping to themselves. OpenAI is getting into hardware, likely launching their own AI phone in a few years, followed by AI computers with a bespoke operating system. Elon used to say that Tesla owners would be able to rent their Teslas out as Taxis when self driving was here...now that its here, Tesla is rolling out its own cab fleet instead. The AI companies in the long term want to take over every industry themselves, not just sell AI agents. The AI agents are sold now, heavily subsidized, because they are phoning home all the data about the industry and people are training them to run that industry. Once an industry can be entirely automated, the AI companies will just stop selling those subs and buy the companies for themselves.
>>540312495At this point why do this when you are that corrupt just have the government force you to use it at gunpoint.The issue with this site is many of you are useless NEETs who gave up on life and assume everyone else would do the same as you when encountering anything challenging
>>540305585mids unrionically believe this
>>540302063>can they make a profit?A handful of companies will rise to the top and make all the money. For most, it will be the worst financial decision ever made.
>>540311389>Obviously when you are building data centers the size of cities, your company is losing money up front.Thats not how finance works. If you build infrastructure you write it off over the next several decades, not in the years it is being built. AI companies really are bleeding money by the hundreds of billions, unrelated to the massive investment. Its a meme/bubble get out while you can if invested in it. Invest in things that are not fake and not gay
>>540303339Try to understand money as a means to power, not just as stored food.They are about to replace this failing means with something else, with compute.The Globalists want to make sure that they have exclusive access or control.If they succeed our destiny as "hackable animals" might be sealed for the next half of eternity.But we still may hope for the intractable tendency of complex things to fail.For the ever increasing entropy of the universe to work in our interest, not theirs.And remember that we are dealing with an enemy who suffers heavy delusions of grandeur.
>>540305585Where do CPUs get memory from retard?
HBM has a 50% failure rate after 5 years.
>>540302677This fucking disgusting ogre and all like him are why the Unite States is a disaster dump. Faggot probably has HIV and various other STDs on top of who knows what syndromes.
>>540312700>The issue with this site is many of you are useless NEETs who gave up on liThe literally could, it already happened in your country before WW2 when your goverment sent the police home by home to confiscate gold bars and bullions, they can do it to confiscate hardware on your country over "national security concerns", they can say your GPU was manufactured in China so its a threat to democracy the police takes your rig while you are held on the ground at gun point, you already know your police will do it and will have no problem in killing you if you resist...That said, there is no neede to call the police, its already public knowledge, Micron made a deal with 12 other corporations to cut production and rise minimum prices, meaning that the American Tech sector is creating scarcity.The consumer must pay a non-legislated American Global Tax on Tech, or they dont get the hardware, over time, NVidia can withdraw support for consumer GPUs, think of NVLink 4090s and 5090s no longer have those.Over time extremely expensive prices and lack of spare parts will slowly kill PCs, meanwhile American corporations will say the solution is fixed-hardware computers and people will eventually be forced into buying them. Meanwhile the hardware is kept in militarized warehouses https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoCH-4x5SCoThose datacenters are just militarized storage units to hoard hardware that would otherwise be bought by consumers.Your goverment even created a munition shortage... in America... Yes sure our goverment could create a munition shortage in ours because the market its extremely small, but a munition shortage in America... The case is clear, deepseek serves millions on the world, they operate at an insignificant capex and have a profit despite the price tag... Its sus at best.
>>540313138Debt is power kraut bro. They influence government power to force us into debt and then we are their free range slaves. The shitskin hoard they bring in are just the barbarians they invited to keep us from being unified against them and walking excuses for the boot end of their anarch tyranny to keep it running for as long as possible. The data centers are to keep the slaves in line the hoard is to justify the data centers for them. It will not last.
>>540302063why are you using a mexican vpn?
>>540313552NiceSpacingFaggot
>>540313693ThankYouIWill KeepSpacing
>>540313552I am not reading all that. You are a jobless loser who relies on your parents to live. Your perspective and opinions are absolutely meaningless
>>540310981Reminder to not only not pay for AI and give Altman Amodei Zuckerberg etc. one single cent of your hard earned money, but actually stop buying anything and everything made by Silicon Valley.Collective punishment of all American techbros (and their Chinese counterparts) is the only viable response to what is ostensibly extortion and sabotage on an unprecedented scale.Get rid of not just OpenAI/ChatGPT, Gemini, Claude, but also Insta Facebook Snapchat Tinder the whole lot, and obviously you shouldn't even have been using TikTok or Telegram or Temu or any of that shit in the first place, but just get rid of all this.The only language Wall Street (= Silicon Valley) will understand is voting with your wallet.And just so you know or reminder, if you do use Facebook/Insta/WhatsApp you ARE paying for it, just not with your money wallet, but your personal information they monetize on your behalf and basically without your explicit consent, since you got peer pressured into using it in the first place.Life has just gotten immeasurably worse since we submitted to this regime, it's time to resist.
>>540312539damnthat's a level of greed i didn't even considereh what about the smaller industries like accounting or the white collar roles in retail companies. I don't think all industries will be attractive to buy up, and for these ones they'll sell virtual workers.Also, eventually these companies would start to get managerial diseconomies of scale since their execs need to manage even larger budgets and even more activities. If expand too much I think they'll suffer in the same way as the command economies of communist countries. Perhaps they'll form subeconomies to fix that?
>>540302063They need automonous robots that can work independently in the real world for it to actually pay off.
>>540310443Fair point anon. I wonder what kind of contaminant could do the most damage to their cooling system at the least risk and cost? What's the most reactive industrial salt? Once serious Dielectric/galvanic/(electrolytic) corrosion starts in a system like that it's basically over within a year or three.
>>540313783If so Why American companies are making hardware 3 times more expensive? and why datacenters are being built even if there is no energy supply available? Why deepseek operates globally at a fraction of the cost? Meanwhile americans are spending trillions on datacenters? The billionares are not your friend MAGAtard
>>540302183the rumour is in the new society people will not be educated and will be consigned to a 17th century style rural existence, except for a transmitter that gives every aspect of their behaviour to the giga computers. Everything is monitored by the kikes and their giga-Ai, while the plebs are old-style religous, believing in a God that oversees everything and judges everything. Unlike before there really will be a virtual-deity that is watching them.Meanwhile the kikes will live in late 21st century opulence with shiksa harems of 1000 to 1 kike.
>>540313857white collar work has no physical elements, and is like $10tn. Capture 0.2% of that, and you have $20bn *annually*!
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>>540302063>NOT A SINGLE AI COMPANY HAS MADE ANY PROFIT ON THIS. They all operate at loss.Welcome to venture capitalism and the boom-bust cycle!>can they make a profit?No, because "AI" is marketing bullshit, but they're smart to get entangled with state surveillance, because that guarantees government bailouts.You're not poor enough to pay your taxes and finance those bailouts, are you, Anon?
>>540302063>NOT A SINGLE AI COMPANY HAS MADE ANY PROFIT ON THISThey are holding out on the idea that one day ai will become agi (sentient god) and tell them out to make a profit and other things like pic related.
>>540314005>The billionares are not your friend MAGAtardYou underestimate the number of temporarily embarrassed billionaires in that godforsaken country.
>>540310443>>540313908Against many small groups and lone wolves of insurgents a gubbernmint is unable to defend againstIn Minecraft>>540313596Dis is the current state we're in
>>540302063Everyone needs to stop using cloud services. That billion dollar data center popping up in your neighborhood is so they can spam you to pay for more storage on one drive and things like that. Delete everything from your online storage and disable "personalization" settings. The only way to disrupt all of this is for a significant number of people to opt out. It's a pipe dream, but it's the only way, IMO.
>>540313786I stubbornly refuse to use any identifiable chat bots like Rufus on Amazon.But I know that most cattle NPC do and many of them even thinking they would be talking to humans.
>>540302063Investors like companies that make no profits yet get guaranteed money (AI will be funded no matter what as its now a matter of national security) because the shares dont get taxed annually. They'll only be taxed when the investors decide to sell. Its a big tax loophole.
>>540314005You sort of answered your own question. Hardware getting more expensive is the signal that it will make you money if you produce more hardware. Electricity will get more expensive as the signal that it will make you money if you produce more electricity. That is how the economy works. With markets, you don't have to plan out every purchase for what the soceity is going to be able to deliver, you just need to follow the price signals.
>>540302063yeah, its fake. they are desperate to drive up demand for goods and services anyway they can; we have the on again/off again iran war, all the keep the price of oil elevated; because if they would let things be, oil would be $20 a barrel; computer, chip demand is the same; AI is nothing but an excuse; basically, give tech bro corporations tons of money through stocks/bonds/loans.... but to just buy...i'm old, and i saw this during the dot com days... so much waste.... after the dot com exploded, the price of herman miller chairs; the ones every designer ceo wanted, were dirt cheap.
>>540302063>Imagine if all this AI mania RAM demand turns out to be the worst financial desicion ever madeIf?
>>540302063This isn't about making a profit, it's about the consolidation of power for the Great Reset. AI is the Beast.
>>540314370As big as the cloud is getting, it doesn't even come close to explaining the exponential data center construction. That's just storage, it's been figured out. Ai is extremely inefficient, it requires too much computational power. Now imagine how much compute is required to study the civilian population with the surveillance apparatus they have planned for us. It will always be watching, connecting dots, studying each and every one of us.
>>540314370> they can spam you to pay for more storage on one driveThey would have to confiscate my local drives first.
>>540302467i used to think the same as OP but i use AI so much at work even £30 a month doesn't seem expensive for what it gives me, this is also going to be the same as every technology like there used to be thousands of telephone companies at the start of it but it distilled down to a handful. Problem is choosing the right one to invest in.
>>540302388Well yeah. Before twitter was a intel apparatus regime change machine. After acquisition (which I still can't make heads or tails of why it was allowed to change hands period with how glowniggers typically are with their assets and structures) it functions as a testbed for LLM shit. It's ultimately the adversarial government disruption and LLM building that makes it valuable, not its on the books front end revenue to expense ratio. Who gives a fuck about "profitability" when it's providing things money otherwise can't buy?
>>540314660You have that much storage in one machine all at the same time? That's a lot of eggs in one basket anon...
>>540313786Just swap out WA/TG for Signal and enjoy having private conversations again.Most of my fellow friends had never even experienced this. A few of my friends go into a complete blank stare mode when I first brought it up and I had to actually yank their phone and install Signal myself but in the end it was worth it and they actually use it now.Reminder the White House uses it because they don't trust Zuckerface any more than we do and it's the closest thing to having a face to face private convo with friends if you keep your device even remotely clean of datamining and chinese chicom shit.
>>540314756AI is here to stay for sure, youre one of the actual productive people that can benefit from it.
>>540314472>Hardware getting more expensive is the signal that it will make you money if you produce more hardware.Yet, the hardware manufacturers cut production, economy does not work in those terms, a cartel can easily cut production and rise prices, this is what Micron Acknowledged.>Electricity will get more expensive as the signal that it will make you money if you produce more electricity.Yet the chinese do not have this problem, Deepseek runs at a fraction of capex.Also America does not operate a regular market economy, your country is just infinite money glitches like private equity funds that siphons wealth from the real economy to the pockets of the 10%, 10% of your population hoards 60% of the wealth in your country according to fed statistics, when the 90% has to fight for 40% of the remaining wealth but trillions are spent in "Data Centers" and hardware hoarding storage facilities then something is terribly wrong because your economy is producing goods and services not for the 90% but for the infinite money glitches of the 10%.You dont need a master in economy to know that your billionares are sabotaging your country for short term profits, groceries are at an all time high yet no one is building massive hydroponic farms to produce affordable food.
>>540306788He not gullible, he kinda dumb.The basis of quantum computing is the fact you get a number range from the current rotation of a molecule to represent a state versus needing a billion transistors to represent complex states as each individual one can only represent two states (three if you count not-existing as one)For instance it takes 8 transistors to represent the letter A, and a piece of modern hardware is now loaded with millions to billions of them shits now.
>>540313466Sentiments like this are why we need that panopticon!That way, the government could legally kill you for having an opinion about their most precious assets in this time of turning.But yeah, I fucking hate that these faggots are pushed in front of millions of eyeballs. If we actually had a based AI system in place I would never have ever heard of Jack nor had a desire to tie a rock around his neck and throw him into the sea.Watch Chef John to bleach your eyes, Anon. The AI won't be helping you navigate the coming Hell World, but Chef John will.
>>540302063Anthropic is already making a profit, but even if they weren't building infrastructure is always a good thing. There are ten times as many devices connected to the Internet now as there were two decades ago, yet the number of data centers, nor the hardware in them hasn't scaled to match. People complain about slow and expensive ISPs and then they complain when we try to build out data centers to fix it.
>>540302063No profits???!!?$0,000,000,000 is a fuck load more than $0 is retard
>>540314939Data centers are good. AI is good. We need more. >Deepseek is cheaperdata centers can run deepseek too. New models are still being generated. It's a new emerging market, nobody knows what's the best option. And certainly not you. The fact that things don't unfold according to your beliefs does not mean there is a grand conspiracy. It means people imagine different futures than you do, and make their bets.
>>540302063Still have no idea from where all the money is coming from, its all so blatantly sketchy
>>540314005see previous post NEET
>>540302063You people are fucking retarded.>durr can they turn a profit??!??!?!They already got richer than anyone in history. They were given trillions of dollars by investors, they were given trillions of dollars by governments.They took all the money and they turned the investor money into wealth and assets for themselves.They already won. All the big people made themselves rich. Whether or not the revenue is going to be good 2, 5, 10 years down the line, that's for the next CEOs to think about.Just because a trillion dollars got invested in AI doesn't mean they need to make up a trillion dollars. They pocketed the trillion dollars. They are fine if their revenue is going to be 50 million a year. That's fine for them because they've already pocketed trillions. They spent money that didn't belong to them, they lost nothing. They don't have to pay back anything.Why are ''people'' this stupid?
>>540315303>The fact that things don't unfold according to your beliefs does not mean there is a grand conspiracy.Oh but its unfolding according to my beliefs... Meanwhile the Ram we could use to run models locally is stashed in some militarized warehouse disguised as a datacenter...>>540315449I can see eveything You want, but it will not change the fact that your billionares hate you and would genocide you if they could, 3x hardware price and a total disruption in the consumer hardware market, just to hoard hardware in fake datacenters... Yes sure dude, Imagine what will happen when investors find out those datacenters are just storage facilities and all that supposed compute are just fake numbers like what happened in the 2008 crisis...
>>540314805If it got stolen or destroyed it would be a considerable loss, yes. But it's as heavy as a truck, the best protection against easy theft. No window side panel oc but thick steel.I also store all critical data on dedicated encrypted external drives. I have a notebook for business that travels with me. My PC is mostly decadent hobby.
>>540302063>can (((they))) make a profithe still thinks it's about 'profit'
>>540315756Get a job and then maybe I will care about your opinion
>>540303339You don't understand anything. You don't understand basics like what money is.Money isn't a resource like in a video game where you just burn through it. No money is destroyed and the money they trade in is imaginary fake debt money.Money at that level is abstract and removed from your day to day life. For normal people money is backed up with labor. For an average person having money is like proof that you worked and did something productive and the money is a piece of debt you can cash in to get a return to your labor.At their level it's a shift in economy where they decide where labor and resources go. They trade the ability to tell millions of people where their labor is needed and where the resources go.They are not burning money, they are removing the consumer from the computer market.
>>540316048I already have a job and I dont want to pay an unlegislated American global tax on Tech so that the 0.1% can siphon more wealth from the working class.
>>540302063The word is not profit, but useful
>>540315908I was thinking more along the lines of a major voltage spike, a tree hits a power line just right, transformer blows up close to you, a lightning strike, a jeet touches the power line while standing on top of a bus, etc etc.I have personally seen it happen. You can absolutely have a computer get fried due to a voltage spike.You need to have unplugged redundant backups for your important data.
>>540313466>>540310203>>540303047Kek...imagine being this triggered by a guy who heated up some food for himself.
>>540316180>I already have a jobDoing what selling mangoes on the street in a shopping cart?
You won't do shit.You aren't even protesting, and if you do you will be lumped in with the Luddite Left.
>>540316379>Doing what selling mangoes on the street in a shopping cart?You might have more in common with a mango seller on the streets of Latin America, or some of those faceless arabs being bombed by your army in the middle east, or some chink working in a electronics factory on a 12 hour shift... than you have in common with the billionares that are destroying your country for short term profits, profits they dont need because they already concentrate 60% of the wealth of your country.But well America went to war with Iran and everyone looked the other way, seems that fucking up with other people makes you a bully and does not make your country popular...
>>540315354We will experience a Great Reset of the global financial system.I suppose that compute will serve as the new "Gold Standard" for two separate currencies, one in the west/north and another one in the east./south.You will be paying in abstract "tokens". In the old money system you were paying in abstract Gold until 1971 and later in nothing but the paper of USD.
>>540316688I was right you do sell mangoes on the street lol
>>540302063>AI replaces "white collar" jobs>boomer tradesmen retire>no one to labor>labor costs skyrocket>middle class values return
>>540316290> voltage spikeI of course have overcurrent protection installed. This is cheap and easily done. Everybody should have it.But I also have smoke alarm sensors in my house that are connected to the intruder alarm system that summons watchmen in under 10 minutes. Accidentally tested their response two times. They are really fast. Well worth their money. They even come in case of a local power outage.
>>540302063It's by design.It is to phase out actual useful hardware for the citizen, in favor of hollow vessels that can use cloud-storage, streamed gaming and to have it behind an obligatory biometric ID verification, that a government can suspend at its whim. Powerful hardware will continue being produced, it will not be designed around gaming or any other consumer activity, but data center, cloud storage, and other such services. Most of you niggers are soft retards that will buckle in your dissent-larp as soon as you are met with "no porn, no games, and no internet" as the consequences.
>>540317952> It is to phase out actual useful hardware for the citizenI understand that It appears like this from the narrowed down consumer perspective. But this is not the main purpose, rather a welcome side effect. The effect is real though.> "no porn, no games, and no internet"I'm well prepped for the dark age: >>540314660
>>540310416This is already perfected and done practically for free with other classical conditioning methods for 80 years and most people aren’t even going to use AI because they are illiterate and not the voice mode either because it makes you look like a faggot. And your theory still comes back around to selling goyslop.
>>540302063> profit Ever notice how the past few decades, movies began sucking floor at unprecedented levels, and a lot of them bombed, but that extremely unprofitable business still kept going on despite the failures and the money kept flowing?Well, same thing here, it's not about making profit, it's about agenda.The agenda being total surveillance.Most of us have known about this since the 90ies or early 2000's, have you been living under a rock or were you born yesterday?
>>540317894Overcurrent protection helps a lot but it's not a guarantee. A lightning strike is the speed of light. I had a relative who's psu popped loudly and combusted from a lightning strike. The hdd was unrecoverable. Funny enough the ram was re-usable but everything else was fried. If there is a conductor going from the line to your data (there is) it can be fried if the spike is strong enough.
>>540314756CAN ANYONE SPOT THE SCAM?NO. NO, OF COURSE NOT. NO SCAM HERE, JUST A BRITISH FLAG TALKING LIKE A SHILL.
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>>540319165OK but make her a cute loli and give it an anime artstyle
>>540305535You dont need massive GPU to play Patrician 3. Go jerk off and read your Evola you faggot
>>540302063>Imagine if all this AI mania RAM demand turns out to be the worst financial desicion ever madeIts ok because they already have an ironclad deal the governments will bail them out with our money.
>>540306354I block all ads and so should you
>>540302063Call it Schumpeterian natural selection. Even if Big Tech incinerates trillions in a historic capEx bonfire, AI remains the ultimate macro-corrective shock. Prior to this, the global market was drifting into terminal sclerosis, a stagnant economic landscape overrun by performative middle management, administrative bloat, and "Gen Z boss and a Mini" corporate fluff and bullshit.
>>540302212>many would self-policeThe US has always been a guilt culture. The only people the need self-policing are the psychopathic elites. This is about turning it into a fear culture, and it's not going to work.
