Why is the former head of the military so black pilled?
>>540311843and that article is inaccuratehe said NATO will need 12 years to reach HALF of what Russia is capable of todayso basically 2.5 decades behind
No, by the US! But Russia will take the credit.Sorry nato, you are a Whore.
>>540311843>also russia has to use horses and ww2 equipmentso what is it?
>>540311843You know Sneed n Feed ?
>>540311843Our only hope is to start stockpiling now
>>540311843Russia doesn't have much money left though, so what does it matter that its plants can go brr to produce missiles.Once the money dry up, the plants will rustOf course other countries could do that too, but you have to have a war economy like back in WW2
>>540312977its kike coof pandemic paradox >millions of people will die and we will live decades in isolation and mandatory vax >Coof is over goyim go back to work nothing happened
>>540311843Red herring and retarded. NATO doesn't care about the battlefield, and the mission is 'to the last hohol'. Once the coup failed to secure the resource rich east the consolation prize for the kikes behind the operation and behind NATO was all the real estate in west ukraine, just had to kill the owners, and sell their sister and daughters to the brothels in warsaw and beyond.The idea that NATO cares about battlefield victories is pure non playable character scripting.
>>540313160what are croaches gonna stockpile when you produce only retardation ?
>>540311843>a decade behind Russia on battlefieldHow much can you really advance meat shield tactics though?
>>540311843Canr even get his neighbor haha. Hahahahaha. Dumb nigger
>>540311843>also accused the alliance of telling Kyiv 'fairytales' about its increasingly- delayed membershiphahahahahaha whoa maybe you should have listened to all the people telling your that for decades at this point hahahhahah
>>540311843>Why is the former head of the military so black pilled?Doesn't he basically have first hand experience in the matter?
>>5403128432,5 decades ago Russian lolis were selling themself for 5 Mark.
>>540311843He has to say that so the western money keeps flowing into ukranda.
>>540311843It's true, and NATO banks on Poland being the next meatgrinder that will keep their western lifestyle possible for just a little longer.No other way these spoiled, useless fucktards will outproduce Russia militarily.
ukraine sure is acting jewy lately> buy new US weapons: America needs the money
>>540311843>Why is the former head of the military so black pilled?Because the Russian army is going through growing pain fighting a peer enemy backed by the full might of the strongest alliance in history minus actually confrontation, they still managed to adapt to drome warfare.The west has grown complacent fighting isolated 3rd world shithole with numerical and technological superiority, that's why the US lost in Iran.It's that simple.
So why isn't the special operation over yet? Hell, why wasn't Russia tried to invade NATO territory then? If the mutts are the only ones contributing to NATOS defense, does that imply they are behind a decade compared to Russia? More over, doesn't the supposed massive technological edge Russia has just making this all the more embarrassing for them?
>>540314599implying russia isnt a third world shithole kek, nato would be in its element
>>540311843Alexander Mercouris (from The Duran) suggested that it was a positioning move for him to take over from Zelensky. He can say that there's no need for NATO, and they should give up Donbass because it was full of Russians anyway, and that's 2 out of the 4 conditions Russia has for ending the war, so that's a good negotiation start.Who knows though, have to wait and see how it develops
>>540314851Both countries are getting an incredible tactics and tech boost. They pay for it with blood and NATO is watching and learning closely as well, but it's not the same as actually being on the front and confronting the newest meta on a day by day basis. Drone warfare alone would still be in its infancy without this war, now a modern conflict without advanced drones and adapted tactics is unthinkable.
>>540311843His butthurt started to leak.NATO has heavily disregarded Ukrainian experience and ideas because "they are eastoid SSSRubhumans", whose only hope is to learn le superiour NATO small unit epic tactical doctrine. Ukrainians were initially perfectly OK with it, because according to their cargo cultist ideology, they indeed need to abandon their ways and learn superior NATO doctrine and once they do Russia will be utterly defeated because Quality (West) beats Quantity (East). Eventually however, Ukrainian delusions were confronted by hard reality where they humiliated the shit out of NATO forces in any simulated combat scenario.NATO also did a carrot-on-stick with empty promises, but their combat support has been declining due to American pivot to Israel and depletion of European stocks.
>>540314851>implying russia isnt a third world shithole kek, nato would be in its elementStop being facetious, you knownwhat i mean.Iraq, Syria, Iran, Libya, yemen, Serbia, and Afghanistan, all of them were isolated countries surrounded by enemies fighting can't protect themselves can't manufacture anything and rely on import and not to mention fight against coalitions of 20+ countries. The west in recent decades always ganged up on small countries, they never fought a real war, they still believe they can win against a peer enemy with few professional soldiers and air superiority, they built all their armies on this.They never expected drones and advanced ballistic missiles to be plentiful and cheap to make.
>>540315145>c'mon bro just give us donbass, it's full of ruskies anyway, we won't invade again, we swearHoly fuck that sounds desperate, kek. You burgers really need to learn to read between the lines.
>>540315339Given how well murica is doing on Iran, I don't think they staying would had made a difference let's be honest. Regardless, both them and Russia got exposed as paper tigers so, I'd say Europe was the only "winner" on this slap fight
>>540315339Nato style warfare somewhat works when you fight goatfuckers. It is all based on the assumption that you are superior to your enemy and can do what you want and your enemy is forced to fuck goats and cant really do hark to your logistics and shit
>>540311843Clearly, this means more money needs to be sent to Ukraine. But remember...they're totally winning!
Russia has great demographics and a great economy so I'm sure this is very scary.
>>540313379>produce only retardation
>>540315452What is your explanation for this former Ukrainian top commander and ambassador of Ukraine to the UK saying this?
>>540312977you will use horses after two weaks of war, retard, just like your ancestors in ww2.
>>540312843It's the UK, Im amazed they even mentioned it
>>540315339Yep, NATO docrtine failed in the first Ukrainian offensive just bleeding out Ukrainians. Good that Ukies think for themselves somehow and went hard into drone combat.
>>540315604>I don't think they staying would had made a difference let's be honestUS lacks the experience of Ukrainians and burns through assets like crazy. Ukrainians would get like a year of competitive airgame if not for the Iranian pivot. Also lets be honest here, US is not playing to win on the Ukraine; it already won and now its just reaping the rewards.>I'd say Europe was the only "winner" on this slap fightlolwhat? US successfully negated EUs drive towards independence + forced it to pay large tribute in the form of defense spending and LNG. US has so far been the undisputed winner of Rukrainian war.
>>540311843>NATO WILL BE BE DESTROYED BY RUSSIA!Hooooraayyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!! How do I help?
>>540313244Hitler didnt have money either and it didnt stop him. In fact running from debt is what fueled total war and the same will happen with russia (unless someone kills jewtin and takes over and somehow decides to change course)
>>540317185The war against Russia and Iran is a disaster if you consider the obvious reality that their main competitor is actually China. China are actually enriching themselves while helping Russia and Iran. Meanwhile the EU and US have burned trillions and they have to burn trillions more for any chance of not losing both wars.
>>540312977>horsesThe greatest army in the history of mankind was mobilized using mostly horses. Stop consooming so much nafo troon/redddit propaganda.
>>540314599>nato and US lost deploying 0 ground troops The shitskin/zigger cope is always funny to see
>>540313280>he thinks Russia will stop at LvivRussia will punish their adversaries in Europe, they have to or they will never stop creating coups, radicalizing populations, and then launching into territorial squabbling. You're right that NATO doesn't give a shit about Ukraine, but it's not about Ukraine or Israel 2.0, not really. That's a side program there. The real idea is to attack Russia and they will do it from Armenia and Georgia and everyplace else touching Russia, forever.Russia needs to deter this as a part of its long term strategy, and it will. It's been crying and moaning and SMOing, but it will do something soon and everybody will screech and cry and moan but they were given a million warnings, we will remind them.We will remind them.
The guy who lost Stinky?He's got no credibility
>>540311843Yeah, sure.Flashback:Here's the AFU rolling across the russian border. The border guards literally waved white flagshttps://files.catbox.moe/0a0cam.mp4 I think ALL of fucking NATO allied would be OK.
>>540319124Stinky status?
>>540319124Stynkyiev satus brather? Foreskin status?
>>540319124Stinkeiv status brather?
>>540315339You are only partially correct, NATO doctrine of relying on a trained and widespread officer corps absolutely did completely mog russian doctrine of mass conscript meat assault. Especially in 2022.Then ukies made the correct decision to disregard everything else NATO preaches with the assumption that they always have air superiority because USA, and pivot into mass cheap drone production.The saddest thing about this is that pretty much none of the NATO countries maybe outside of the US are even attempting making more drone factories and R&D facilities. It's too little and too slow, same with artillery ammunition or rockets.If actual war between NATO and russia and/or china emerges, NATO as a whole will spend a long ass time waking the fuck up from its post-ww2 peace slumber
>>540319716We remember the Ukrainian meat offensives where they got butchered. >Ukrainian air superiority Lmao Ghost of Kweef?
>>540318352China and India are also victors of the war. "do nothing, win" kinda victors.You definitely have a point tho. Fully pivoting against communist China seems like a sound long term strategy for the US, its especially popular amongst Republicans. But as of now, PRC is just posturing and playing the long game. Its not ready to tackle the US.Thing is, the threat of EU escaping American SoI is larger and more immediate because with defeat of SSSR during the cold war not only did EU lose the necessity to have big America protecting it against big SSSR. EU itself became quite large, gained access to Russian resources and maintained strong surplus in trade with the US. US has strong interests in cutting down the EU to keep it manageable, preventing it from competing in tech sector, as well as introducing hostility between RF and EU to bring back the big bad bear from the Cold War + cut Germany-RF pipelines.There is a chance that the Ukrainian strategy will eventually turn sour, but ATM America is winning bigly.
>>540319124> border guards literally waved white flagsIf you are at a very disadvantagous position you surrender like those border guards.Ukrainian nationalists could have learned something from them in February 2022. Instead they have millions dead and half of their remaining population are old people, meanwhile the Russians have a large veteran army and a gargantuan MIC that haven't finished punishing the remaining able-bodied Ukrainian men.
>>540319716>Especially in 2022.Buddy...in 2022 Ukrainian won because of MEAT. They outnumbered Russians more than 5:1, because Putin was absolutely deluded and only allowed "conscription" (which was actually only evocation) in autumn and the troops were only deployed by spring.Cheap meat was the strategic advantage that allowed Ukrainians to hold the line. Ukraine can kidnap people on the street, they can bleed their demographic resources to Paraguay levels, because Ukraine relies on outside powers to back them economically. Russia cant afford these measures because its the attacker (=less popular support), but more importantly it needs its own people to do the economy part.Russian strategy was cheap metal, not cheap meat. And dronification of war absolutely negated this advantage.>doctrine of relying on a trainedKey issue with modern NATO thinking is precisely this bullshit. "Our tactic is that we are better than them" may work against third world monkeys, but it does not fit in European theater.
>>540320343The threat of EU "escaping" the US was non-existent, it's an empty victory for the US. Western Europe was completely brainwashed into servitude to the US Liberal democracy ideology and all of Eastern Europe is called butthurt belters for a much deserved reason - their core identity is being revanchist towards Russia.If there was a remote threat there, Germany and other countries would at least have responded in some way negatively towards the US having the Nordstream pipelines destroyed by them.
>>540318537and howd that work out for them?
>>540322053The Imperial German Army did very little fighting on German soil, militarily they did amazing with what they had.
>>540318711>if you blow up enough of your enemy's radar sites they win
>>540321320>EU continually refused to adopt muh 2% JewishPee spending on defense. Now even fucking Romania is buying F35s.>Germans laughed at Trump, when he told to stop trading with RussiansThose things changed. The war clearly gave US large leverage over the EU.>Germany and other countries would at least have responded in some way negatively towards the US having the Nordstream pipelines destroyed by them.The Nordstream attacks were an intimidation. It worked, Germany stopped heeldragging and gave their Leopards away. European leaders are sissies, intimidation is highly effective against them. they may pursue pro-European policies but they crack easily under pressure.As for why EU went full cuckmode in regards to the Rukrainian war, its hard to judge but my guess is propaganda. The public opinion across EU just shifted hard against Russia, meaning that pro-US parties both gained popularity and somehow continue to suck American weiner despite Trump being Trump.
>>540316672Zaluzhniy is a media darling and firmly in the pocket of MI6, if he's saying stuff like that they're probably trying to work the>...and that's why we need to raise taxes to defeat Putler!angleI'm still waiting for the article to finish archiving or I'd tell you what it said
>>540319716The only genuinely NATO trained troops were butchered in their failed 2023 offensive and the Ukrainians very loudly complained that NATO retards had no idea how to teach them to fight a real war, since the sum total of their military experience was bullying goat herders in Afghanistan for 20 years before losing. Both Ukrainians and Russians individually have more genuine combat experience than all of NATO's wars in the last 30 years put together.
