>>540336028
>>>/x/

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>>540336028
>cargo needs to be something that cannot be manufactured without a real, lived consciousness
what do you think pain and fear are
>a population with families, meaningful choices, beauty, guilt, forgiveness and genuine spiritual experience would produce a much richer product
yes but these are low frequency vibration entities we're talking about, they can't feed off the higher vibration good energies, they can only bottom feed off negativity
and if they don't get pain/fear loosh energy they die
it's their food
you're being retarded

amatuer hour i didnt fuckin check which board i was on...... fuuuck

>>540336232
no bro... pain and fear = inferior product, perhaps you are being retarded? or maybe youd just be a bad alien business man.
sent with respect

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>>540336379
i already addressed that point, did you even read the post you dumb cunt?
can you even read?
>yes but these are low frequency vibration entities we're talking about, they can't feed off the higher vibration good energies, they can only bottom feed off negativity
>and if they don't get pain/fear loosh energy they die
>it's their food

>>540336028
i dont believe in any of that bullshit and "loosh" is a stupid word but

isnt the obvious answer just that different sentient beings' emotions taste different? especially with cultural/technological shifts, changes in lifespan, average global cortisol levels, new flavors of fear (climate change, nuclear war), etc.?

like if earth went from mcdonalds tier to 5 star restaurant tier within the last 6000-2000 years
that would be my schizo guess

have fun with that

what makes you think they're 3D and need to travel in 3D?

>>540336506
>i already addressed that point
no, you repeated it you fucking mongoloid. "its their food" is the exact claim under audit. saying the doctrine louder in greentext is not a mechanism.

lets pretend you dont have the IQ of a fucking toaster and grant your whole model. bottom feeders, negativity only, starve without bad vibes. even inside your "retard1jpg" model you lose

every negative state is a derivative of a positive one. grief requires love. betrayal requires trust. fear of loss requires having something to lose. run uninterrupted terror and the herd habituates in a generation. numbness. yield collapse. same as any drug. so your bottom feeders still need families, beauty and hope cultivated upstream or theres nothing to charge off. the good states arent competing food, theyre the capital investment.

and youre confusing the kill chute with the cargo. chickens panic at slaughter tyson does not sell panic, you would know this if you had a fuckin job.

also if acute suffering is the food explain anesthesia the farm keeps inventing painkillers while attachment density goes up. under your model management is starving itself. under mine thats yield optimization.

youre describing a wolf. im describing a rancher. there are 1.5 billion cattle and 300 thousand wolves domestication beats predation (big word for hunting) everywhere it appears. anything that can cross interstellar distance worked that out before it bought the ticket,

sent with less respect

>>540336652
fair question, sir

it actually doesnt matter if theyre 3D or 9D or interdimensional or whatever, the argument doesnt care how they travel... it only needs one thing to be true, that getting here and extracting costs them SOMETHING. energy, time, effort, interface, whatever their version of money is, probably many elons of money. if crossing over is completely free for them then why would anything need to be farmed at all, they could just have whatever they want whenever they want it, the whole prison becomes a hobby project which makes no sense for something running an operation this size... or my argument fAlls apart

and look at what we actually observe... a maintained system withrules containment, long timelines, cultivation of us, loss control etc etc. you dont build infrastructure around something you can get for free. the existence of the farm is itself the proof that theres a budget somewhere

and whatever dimension theyre operating from, the crop is 3D. we live 3D lives, the atman accumulates here, so extraction has to happen here at some point. even a higher dimensional being pays an interface cost to work the field... its the avatar problem from the OP. doesnt matter how advanced you are, mining on someone elses planet is fucking expensive, big jimbo cameron figured that out

>>540336556
>have fun with that

walk through your own example... what actually changed between 6000 years ago and now. its not the quantity of suffering, medieval peasants had terror in industrial quantities, plague, famine, watching half your kids die before age five etc etc. by raw cortisol the middle ages destroys us. what changed is the range your "new flavors" prove it
. a lizard cannot fear nuclear war.
and look at gen z, an entire generation marinating in climate angst, doomscrolling, ambient dread about a future they believe - maybe theyre right - got stolen from them... grieving for a world that hasnt even ended yet. thats not caveman fear of the dark, a medieval peasant literally does not have the hardware to produce that flavor. it requires abstraction, foresight, caring about grandchildren you will never meet, at least not as often as we get to, attachment stretched across time etc etc. thats scaffolding a consciousness has to build through a whole lived life. the new flavors arent new negativity, theyre new complexity… dealing with shit we havent evolved to deal with yet
so yes, mcdonalds to 5 star, thats exactly the model. but the upgrade wasnt more suffering per head it was more structure per head and maybe taste IS structure. you described the atman theory in restaurant terms and called it a schizo guess. Lets take it a step further that may also explain why management let civilization develop instead of keeping us in the terror age... you dont get a 5 star menu without letting the kitchen learn new shit. gen z angst is probably a boutique 3 star michelin product 6000 years in development , like diet terror

>>540336028
Niggers come in here talking about loosh without ever actually saying what loosh is, because if they had to explain it, they would look fucking retarded.

Loosh is supposedly an energy that is created by creatures experience emotional states. This energy is then harvested/eaten by Archons, which are just demons from gnosticism. The problem with this is that experiencing negative emotions is no different from seeing colors or hearing sound. It doesn't add electrical charge to your body, it doesn't add mass. So these creatures "eating your loosh" is akin to them "eating" your experience of seeing the color green.

It's fucking stupid. It requires more faith and suspension of disbelief than fucking hinduism.

The only way it could possibly make any kind of sense is if it's just a bunch of mystical woo metaphors to say that the "archons" just have schadenfreude and get off on watching us suffer, which isn't something you would farm a whole fucking planet for, but might make sense if this is a simulation and they think we're all just fucking NPC's.

>>540336028
>element 115
Qrd? I've only heard of this from nazi zombies.

>loosh
no serious person uses this retarded word

>>540336028
On a long shot you devide that into parcels of 10s and examine if that same potential difference occurs in parcels of 100s.
Why not 0s and 1s?
What makes that ´so special, other than some jerking off?

>>540336028
https://youtu.be/HwqjZ84gD_c

>>540338799
The fundamentals i disconcern the sophistry that i ll learn.

>>540336232
This is another thing I never got about new-age shit: emotions as vibrational energy. Like, yeah, I get that e=mc^2, and so everything is energy and can be described with wavegraphs, but not all wavegraphs describe vibration, first of all, and if this is really some kind of simulational fake world, like gnostics describe, then the assignment of qualia to in-simulation wavelengths must ultimately be arbitrary at the host level. Also, low-frequency energies are LESS DENSE than higher frequency energies, so the idea that negative energies are low vibration/low frequency yet also more dense displays a solid failure to understand how energy density actually works.

the absolute state of the media/creative industries shows that human imagination is being capped
spirit cooking

>>540338799
Along this logarithmic line there would be some "imaginary things", but isnt that like the question you are asking? I should accept that and upon that there is another thing i should accept but then you are telling me that is how things are done.

>>540338921
The internet has allowed us to hyper-expose ourselves to media, and this has allowed an accelerated perception of patterns and tropes in that media. Only so many types of environments, only so many types of narrative arc, only so many type of character. It might have taken a lifetime to run into that and get bored before the internet. Now it only takes a few years of heavy use.

>>540338532
it's a vibration/frequency they generate from our suffering which is energy. negative emotion = faster vibration = more energy, while positive emotion/peace = slower vibration = less energy. pretty simple

>>540336028
Loosh is not fear, it is epiphany.

Reassess the world through this lens.

>>540339140
If that's how it works then negative emotions are high-vibration, and positive emotions are low-vibration, which is the exact opposite of how this is normally taught in new-age circles. Further, how exactly do they convert our experiences from in-simulation subjective perception to vibrational energy on their level? Do they have a fucking lovense hooked up to the computer running us that only starts vibing when we're fucking sad?

>>540339140
Also, suffering is not itself energy, suffering is a qualia, like color. Its experiencing is the product of energy expenditure. The body expends energy in order to perceive qualia (nerves and neurons must fire), but this is not "pain energy", it's electrical energy, which will be the same no matter what qualia is experienced, and only differs in amount in proportion to how many nerves or neurons must fire without any relation to exactly which ones are firing.

>>540336028
1) The Archons live here. They have lived here for a long time (50k years).
2) Interstellar travel is not very hard for higher dimensional beings. The time and/or energy required is trivial.
3) Harvesting loosh is considered a major crime and is banned and policed in most other places in the universe.
4) Earth was a "backwater planet", unknown, and unpoliced, where the Archons have been able to do as they please for a long time.
5) Even thought the galactic government now knows that the Archons are here (and what they are doing) they are reluctant to act because ALL OF HUMANITY and every other living thing on earth are being held hostage. If the galactic government moves against the Archons they could exterminate the entire earth. Conversely, the Archons can't leave to start over somewhere else, although they keep trying.
They are stuck, and we are stuck.

>>540338532
Loosh are the emanations from your soul / spirit. At our level it's usually emotions that cause us to emit more loosh.

>>540339611
You seem to know your shit can you report the violation of whoever is farming my loosh? Thats what honestly makes the most sense as this point. Thanks. Checked.

>>540336262
While you're here, wanna talk about the jews and how they're trying to enslave mankind?

>>540339611
Your soul/spirit is your informational self, your memories and the behavioral/informational logic systems of your mind that you build from them. This is why it's immaterial, eternal, and indestructible. This is also why it can be "scarred" through the creation of negative memories from traumatic events. Any kind of "energy body" you would find your soul placed in that could emit emanations (fun fact: the material human body is technically an "energy body" in light of e=mc^2) is going to be fundamentally the same as our human bodies - that is, a simulated avatar. It doesn't matter what dimension you get out to, what layer of the simulation hosting stack you get out to, it's always going to be something like that.

So in light of that, you're basically saying that emotions cause us to emit specific energy patterns from whatever energy vessel is holding our soul's data. Eating this would be akin to eating the electromagnetic and thermal radiation put off by our neurology/biology. I'll give you that this makes more sense in the scenario you put forth: that the archons live in this simulation with us, as this would allow them to directly interact with that simulated energy output format, but again makes zero sense if they live in a higher simulation/dimension.

>>540339140
N-abag of nuts-(abag pf mag of nuts (different notation)).

>>540339688
The force field or van allen belts see all traffic enter and leave via the poles.
The species that enslaves man lives underground and gives the surface the tech that’s built every civilization

Religion was the law that governs them.
Times are changing
Apocalypse literally means awakening.

Get used to revelations cause your soul is living this playbook for the 6th time.

Which religion are they using to rule this time is the question you should be asking

>>540340059
>your soul is living this playbook for the 6th time.
I'll take, "ideas people pulled out of their ass or got from literal drug trip demons," for $500, Alex.

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>>540336028
While the idea has always struck me as stupid, "loosh theory" does have one central core that is hard to argue with; it's totally plausible that suffering is a commodity to something more powerful.

The exact details don't matter; you don't need to make a foie gras comparison (but you can).

Ultimately, even something like "we are an ancestor simulation, statistically its the most likely thing" still results in something deciding that, in order to get the correct result, there has to be a lot of suffering. Even if the purpose is to compute 42, whatever built it was definitely ok with the suffering and didn't figure it was something to patch out. That's close enough to the suffering being the point.

>>540338712
>Typical loosh farmer comment

>>540339955
Oh brother what did i getr myself into.

>>540340321
That would be rather not very fine at all.

>>540339688
As far as getting your loosh farmed, we are ALL getting our loosh farmed. They don't even pay attention to us as individuals, and instead, let the bio-etheric implants they have put inside us run on autopilot.
There's no way to stop it right now. All I can say is to try to keep calm, meditate, and avoid indulging in anger, lust, fear, drugs, alcohol, or pointless personal conflicts.
The only way to deal with the implants is to try to starve them, as they eat negative loosh too.

>>540339955
The Archons live "above" us in higher dimensions but they are not higher beings. It's like the difference between positive and negative. They are "higher negative" while the natural state of most higher beings is to be "higher positive".
Past a certain level (above plasma, etheric, and astral), it's nearly impossible to maintain "higher negative".

>>540340243
Loosh is one of the few things that a more advanced species can't create artificially.
It must be farmed from beings like us.

>>540340321
If you actually believe in this prison-planet loosh shit, then you got yourself into some kind of stochastic cult.

>>540340372
Kinda like the opposite of what i meant, like an approximation. Where as the other stuff is holisitic.

>>540340423
That would be rather basic i m rather pure.
If all dots would be on some kind of squre hjaving the same distance. The only thing i woujld be concerned about is the dots at the edge of the square.

>>540340140
I’ll take the history of this simulation as written in cuneiform Sumerian tablets for an IQ higher that yours. Alex.
Do your own research tard.

>>540340533
Or ami do stupid to understand this erdös problem.

>>540340206
But they are the amalek, historically and Biblically speaking
So they must destroy themselves

>>540336976
>>540336028
not a bad ARG/cult scam desu

but you've yet to explain why they harvest the atman? what do they do with it?

>>540340541
I m just asking questions.

>>540336134
GET THESE FUCKING SCHIZOS BACK ON THEIR CONTAINMENT BOARD JANNY

>>540340553
I can create a numbers system with that, would that number system be coherent, yes, would that number system within and not greater that another number system yes.
Point proven.

Guys, you need to watch Clarkson’s Farm just to get an idea of farming, and besides, it’s not that boring.

>>540340382
>The Archons live "above" us in higher dimensions but they are not higher beings.
Yeah, I get that. They're demons, from a higher simulation in the stack, hosting us like video game characters in their minecraft server. This is also likely what it means for Demiurge/Satan to be "god of this world" without being "God." We are in a video game inside of a video game inside of a video game. They're in a video game inside a video game, and way up the hosting stack God is in base reality.

>It's like the difference between positive and negative. They are "higher negative" while the natural state of most higher beings is to be "higher positive".
That's a lot of words to say, "they're evil," anon.

>Past a certain level (above plasma, etheric, and astral), it's nearly impossible to maintain "higher negative".
First, the astral is not so much a dimension or discrete simulation unto its own, but is more like an inter-simulational internet that we can connect to directly with our brains by virtue of it being integrated into reality itself at the host level. It's kind of like how if you put chatgpt into a video game world, you could still get it to access the outside internet from within that world. Unfortunately our direct hosts are hostile and seem to heavily fuck with the astral and interfere with our use of it. God (our hosts' host), seems to prevent them from going completely buck wild with it, though.

Second, it's likely that our direct hosts are the only layer (and perhaps even the only simulation) allowed to be a "higher-negative", or create evil sub-simulations and lord over them like evil sysadmins larping at godhood. If this is so, it's not "nearly" impossible to maintain a state of being evil in higher simulations, it is FULLY impossible unless explicitly allowed.

>>540336028
It is energy intensive to produce the most sublime suffering.

>>540340886
I would arrange them in pie?There is a seed though.

>>540340541
>JuSt BeCaUsE iT's OlD, iT mUsT bE tRuE
>The Sumerians were right about everything.
Those niggers worshiped demons and the literal goddess of whores, and their culture went fucking extinct.

>>540336028
>fear and pain should be cheap.
It's not only cheap for them. Nor is it even just free. We pay them to do so. They hoard all the gold and other valuable resources, and we run the entire anthill for them
>both could be generated anywhere
That anywhere might as well be Earth than somewhere else. In other words, we are that "somewhere".
>terror would be bad farming it makes no sense... terror produces intensity, but very little range or integration. a population with families, meaningful choices, beauty, guilt, forgiveness and genuine spiritual experience would produce a much richer product.
If that was true, jews wouldn't exist.

>>540340533
So what does that have to do with the post you're responding to? That higher simulational entities would only care about lowest simulational entities?

How is that related to loosh-believers existing in a decentralized cult?

>>540340553
Again, what does this have to do with the discussion?

>>540340781
>Point proven
Literally what point? You didn't even make a point to prove?

>>540336976
/thead

>>540341084
>I would arrange them in pie?
Why?

>There is a seed though.
Of?

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>>540341084
Like trees or some shit.
Within a square but more than a square allows?
More than i expected?
You would expect more information to be stored in a pseudomentional space?

>>540337171
It costs energy and time for consciousness to travel between stars, the energy is constantly generated, but large actions deplete it, and eventually its all depleted and the soul has to return to the body to renew itself. Time is obvious, there are practically infinite places to go, which one is the most fruitful to the soul at any given moment? For an alien farther than 10 light years away, its rarely earth. For entities farther than 1000 light years, there are so many other options to choose from that earth would almost never make their list of targets.
Ufos are more stable and more capable of perceiving the physicality of our earth domain, whereas the soul will view the earth from the spiritual perspective, which might be quite different than how we experience it physically as humans.

it’s extactly the same situation as when jews/muslims torture animals before eating them. kikes are wanna-be loosh farmers

>>540341269
“For a large number $ n $ of objects, what is the maximum/minimum number of some combinatorial feature you can force?”

>>540341273
If you meant "pseudometric" instead of "pseudometional", then our information density cap in the simulation space we inhabit is technically 0, pseudometric, but at the same time, also exists as parsed through consciousness, and so no matter how small the distance between "pixels", will always be tied to the resolution of our sensory perception. Also, if the distance between all points is zero, we have a singularity, don't we? Of course it seems obvious to say that the distance between points of our perception is NOT zero, since we have an ability to relatively measure what the smallest thing we can see is. The question becomes if the simulation exists entirely within our perception our outside of it, at that point. If we inhabit a truly pseudometric simulation, then there is no smallest object and fineness is infinite. This opens up all kinds of weird possibilities, potentials, and implications, but then, so does infinite greatness, which simulation theory opens.

>>540341716
I would take the extremest angle of these pairs and i dunno go from there.

>>540341716
Bro, are you a markov chain bot? Like what's so hard about answering directly? What does that have to do with my question? Being needlessly opaque does not make you seem smart, it makes you seem schizo or like an actual bot.

>>540341716
There would be problably lots of them.

>>540341905
I would create like a maximized cluster.
I mean there is room for a square root.

>>540342160
A maximized cluster of what?

>>540341913
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDApZhXTpH8

I got some error windows in mind.

>>540336028
Prison planet psychobabble is something schizo people who can't remote view or astral project because they're too low is made up because they didn't read the fucking book wherein Robert clarified LATER IN THE BOOK that the loosh thing was him misinterpreting an experience

Btw he was a fat smoker who was likely experiencing dementia late in his life and he also said he had magic pants that generated money in that book

He's my hero

>>540342295
Low iq*

>>540342260
OH SHIT!
YOU'RE THE MUSIC MARKOV BOT FROM THE NOBODY GENERAL THREADS!!!!
So they finally set you loose on /pol/ huh?
kek

>>540342212
Two distances between a point can be within the square?

The number of points has to grow more than you would expect the squares to inhabit or host.
That is the only reason this makes sense.

>>540342351
A square has 5 points as the lowest form.

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>>540336028
Well even your theory doesn't make sense if you believe in this stuff then you know that they're draining Spirit energy not your blood or anything physical. It's a part of you that exists in a different place but somehow still influences you here if you believe in this stuff then you believe in this so your theory doesn't make sense either. But I agree what the fuck is a point? Why do it this way?

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>>540342583
It is always the same object..

>>540342915
How does that grow.
Maybe it would be put in a barn and fed lots of $oy.
But they would tell their friends how nice it is.

>>540336028
>>540338532
>>540339611
I can buy that 'loosh' is preyed upon by malevolent entities.

What I don't see a justification for is to posit that these entities are in fact all-powerful 'archons'. Why couldn't they just be lower demons/spirits, as traditional belief systems tell us? These beings can prey on vulnerable individuals with poor emotional regulation, but they don't have mastery over Earth or those who have their emotions in check.

If Earth was a 'prison planet' over which Archons have total dominance then why not just turn it into a torture farm? Why allow people to feel happiness, love, have good experiences, etc? Seems counterintuitive.

>>540342915
Given that he shat all over the place, cant be that difficult, i wonder why that others woulnt say the same stuff before.

>>540336028
>say atman is not the soul itself, but the structure a soul
no such things. humans invented the "soul" cope because they didnt know at the time how conciousness arises and that it is an emergent property from the complexity of the brain.
also there is no ghost or demon aliums or different dimensions or loosh or whatever.
the loosh thing is probably some sort of methaphor about how jews are exploiting you to steal your energy through wagecucking and fuck up your mind through fear generated by psyops to make retards easier to control and more useful.

>>540336028
Interesting discussion, will be food for thought for me

>>540343255
What do you make of this? >>540339955

>>540344032
didnt I already adress this with my post?

>>540343057
They are as people believe. But all demons are like this
Demons are just that, thoughts, memes, the eregores of collective conciousness.
Your soul, our souls create them.
It seems like this guy almost understands >>540339955 in a way, but it is us who creates demons. Without our energy, they wouldn't even starve but simply not be.

>>540336028
>How this was made
>Made with AI
>Sounds or visuals were altered or fully generated
retard

>>540336028
But anon, did you not watch Madoka?
Little girls' emotions are the strongest nuclear reactors in the Universe, aliums just have to keep the harvest going to battle entropy. It is what it is.

>>540345621
Dropping by to confirm, assigning agency and being to anything other than God and His children(created in His image) is a mistake, people split their souls and create their own demons almost akin to tulpas(or if we use the archetypal framework, they incarnate them from the collective pool).
Or in another framework, they are subroutines you trap yourself in.

>>540336028
man this would make such a great >>>/x/ thread
but you blew it here instead
and now both boards are worse

>>540336028
No no no no no no you dont get it you dont get it you dont get it. There is no travel from here to there. The travel is through. The 'aliens' are not entities but worlds onto themselves that exist in the space we occupy. Space is being born all the time so to speak. There is no here or there, there is overlapping realities in dofferent states of constant flux, stretching, compounding, fracturing, flipping, reversing etc. Think about technology trillions of years old. We have radio after how many years? Sending invisible information through space like its nothing, our dna is information so at our highest capacity we could send information through physical space. That is nothing, we are talking about warp drive (think of a washing machines movements swirling water), ripping through the fabric of space. This is a mix of science and spirituality. There are entities and worlds overlapping with our physical space the same way Miley Cyrus is in the room with you when her voice is on the radio.

>>540346252
There is zero interesting thought in this thread

>>540336232
>and if they don't get pain/fear loosh energy they die
>it's their food
Has anybody asked themselves who are the main advocates for pain and suffering? Who supports it with all their hearts and wants more of it?
The Christians.

>>540336028
>terror produces intensity, but very little range or integration
the rabbit and the lion, both biologically warm blooded mammal, one is predator one prey, one nervous, one calm. Anyway you get to a point its just more words.

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>>540346460
>>>/x/ is desperately in need of SOMETHING.
have you seen it recently?
they practiced the milquetoast spamming on there and perfected it to a science before they started doing it here.
you think you could just post a good thread on there and people would notice, but you're wrong.
they're so utterly mindfucked there by the unjannied spam, the whole board has fucked off years ago.
threads like this should be posted there to wake it the fuck back up. but instead (you) farmers post it here during real schizo hours.

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>>540340243
Here's an alternative - suffering is a fertilizer, and as many have proposed ITT already that more and more delicate and exquisite forms of "bad emotions" are being harvested, I'd argue that in the darkest place and the darkest hour a simple act of genuine goodness shines unbelievably brightly in whatever spectre "loosh" is shining in, at whatever dimension.

I think this metaphor becomes much more individually rather than collectively. True growth of both body and character is achieved through suffering.
But you must not forget we were granted freedom and as such we can fuck up any system set up aound us. And for the final note, don't forget how limited we are by ourselves in comprehension of the greater things, Answer to Job is the Answer.

>>540344551
So you don't believe you have an informational self? You don't believe in the ego?