>>540338963no one had a choice unless you had your own electrical system off grid.
>>540339015I opted out and still have my old meter with the little wheel.
>>540338963you don't have a choice nigger and no you can't fool it with your hillbilly copper wire faraday cage bullshit. >t.scada engineer
>>540338963Imagine not bypassing your meter.
>>540339265If you don't trust the spoon you can use jump leads. 100% safe and effective.
>>540339150That's not true. PG&E, the utility with the largest AMI network in the US, allows customers to opt out to digital meters without NICs in them. They have to be manually read, which is why they charge those customers an extra monthly surcharge.t. infrastructure pentester
>>540339150I tried to explain to a boomer that those cages don't' matter because the waves just find the way of least resistance to leave, which is through the box. He meant well and I understand his concern but it just don't work that way. But you have to admit, nobody likes having that shit on their house.
>>540338963Why would you not have a smart meter? It allows you to monitor your usage in realtime via an app and saves the electric company having to send someone out to manually inspect the meter. They're just all-around superior
>>540339352we shouldn't be paying for electricity at allit all comes from the atmosphere, it's an unlimited resource just like water
>>540339265>>540339294right, what could possibly go wrong. lol. regardless it's based.
>>540338963my electric company wanted to change it out i told them no they came anyways and i had to yell at them to stop they said they will be back. months later 9am no notice they're in the back about to cut the power while im in the middle of work (jacking off) told them if they pay me my daily wage of 10 thousand dollars they can disconnect it they left and gave me paperwork said paperwork stated that they will be changing me extra 60 dollars a month can increase at any time and i need to show up in person and sign my name saying i agree to do this. i dont so i didnt sign anything and put a lock on my gate and now they need to knock when they want to get in to check the meter my wife thinks im crazy and told me to just go with the flow and it doesn't matter. i told her its a good thing my only rule in life is to never listen to a woman and laugh to make her think im joking. I honestly cant articulate why i hate the idea so much and why im so against it other than conspiracy mumbo jumbo i cant verify but they sound right to me.
>>540339397Are you really surprised that people here are retarded schizos?
>>540338963https://youtu.be/HwqjZ84gD_c
>>540338963Before I lost my house the city would send people to my house to "upgrade" and I would just tell them I wasn't interested.
>>540339397>just let the electric company collect data on your home through the internet for their convenience
>>540339397>They're just all-around superiorUntil they remotely cut/limit your power like they did in California.
>>540339397nice b8 m8
>>540338963Here we can opt out if we agree to pay an additional 20$ monthly
>>540339294>dipshits stealing power dont know to flip the main 1st pottery
>>540339352>cascadia tranniesno one cares what westoids do, your grid is trash to begin with>>540339265>>540339294phase changes, signal drops, gyro sensors, line communication with rf mesh or 3g/4g backhaul all detect tampering, this doesn't work. the line itself has feed data before it even reaches the meter.
There is a l-ion battery, and a relay (to remotely switch on/off) in the thing, plus a radio.In a wildfire, the power surges do cause fires in smartmeters and don't cause fires in dumb meters.Smart meters produce a shitload of EMF, which causes weird failures in material due to microwaves propagating through the wires.Go ask chatgpt if there was an increase in electrical fires in the us in 2012-2015, and if smart meter rollout started during that period.
>>540339397Aus electrical trades union said they'd kill people. Look it up in your chatbot.
>>540339373>I tried to explain to a boomer that those cages don't' matterI had to demonstrate that the cages don't work using a handheld RF detector before my boomer schizo finally understood. He won't back down on the 5G nanobots though
>>540339843>Go ask chatgpt
>>540339265>>540339294Cheap meter. If it had a neutral current sensor it'd flag that in seconds.Of course zero usage is already something that gets caught as suspicious in analytics.
>>540339843one of the worst firestorms in history to affect a subruban area in the broadband era area happened in 2003, long before smart meters were rolled out en masse.
>>540338963If the government forces that shit I'm going to cuck faraday cage it
>>540339144How much extra do you have to pay for that?
>>540338963
>>540339265Reported to Scottish power
>>540339843>weird failures in material due to microwaves propagating through the wires.A physical occurrence which somehow doesn't happen with wifi routers at all I guess.
>>540338963Not like we have a choice
>>540339483You are in the right about everything you said, except for the part where you disrespect your own wife.
>>540339843If SmartMeters caused fires then the numbers would have been permanently elevated, not only elevated during the initial installation period.
>>540338963These changes are never for your benefit.
>>540339265if kings had an even bigger king, it would be this guy
Economically I don't see a problem with it.Prior to having a smart meter they would "estimate" my usage because they were to lazy and cheap to send someone to check my usage monthly because I was "too rural".This always resulted in me being overcharged and receiving a "credit" when they actually checked my usage 6 months later.The credit NEVER ever made up for the overcharge and I was constantly always owed money from the power corp.
>>540339015Same thing they said in my country. Not the same when they get confronted with a gun for touching things that are in your property. I didn't allowed them to change mine.
>>540338963I loved the old meters because it was just a simple electrical motor, so you could swap L1 with L3 and your meter would count backwards
>>540338963We didn't have an option.If you opted out they just cut off your power.
>>540339144I opted out and they put one in that doesn't transmit as far. I also opted out of the water meter but the niggers told me I couldn't opt out because I share a pit meter with my neighbor.>inb4 AI cuts off my water remotely because I said something haram
>>540341112Based latinx doing what no murican freedom enthusiast dares
>>540338963No choice as everyone else said, I just got mine recently and they charge like $40 just to have someone come out to read it. It sucks because these things read EVERY little bit of power now those jewish cocksuckers.
>>540341312I actually made a steal cage and bolted it around the counter. The wall is concrete. Those fuckers aren't changing anything.
>>540339265No one is ever going to service it? How are going to explain the big holes in the cables? Lol
>>540339265Must be nice living in a shithole, where the phase wiring is openly accessable. Also > not a 3 phase meterpathetic
>>540341190good jugaad saar
Based Anons, newfrens, and lurkers should check out Lookoutfacharlie 's channel on youtube to see how smart meters play a role in electronic surveillence and harassment. Also come bump the havana/gangstalking thread thats up right now. These 2 threads are heavily related. I Denounce the talmud
>>540339397Only thing that I WOULD NEVER ADVISE someone to do, would be tinkering with the remote switch-off to prevent them disconnecting you from the grid. You know, if they need all the energy for data centers, NGO headquarters and such instead of you filthy peasants.Deactivating this function would be highly illegal, so please DO NOT DO IT.
>>540339265Whoever did thatis in hospital, intensive burns unit right? priest standing by with the last rites?
>>540339265So nothing happened running those screws into the wires?
>>540338963We all did. shit kills everything around it, especially the old meters.
>>540341190i had and manipulated one, but the mains couldn't be reached as the box was sealed. i drilled a tiny hole with a dentist drill and inserted a piece of wire to inhibit rotation of the disk. worked well and the hole was so fine, basically unnoticable. i still camouflaged it with sprinkles of paint 'from renovation'. worked for over ten years. fuck the energy jew.