I'm really struggling to understand why 2000 years after their apparent extinction, you have people trying to claim that Carthage didn't murder their own childrenWhy would someone be motivated to try to downplay child sacrifice in Carthage? It was 2000 years agoAren't they all dead? Or are they not all dead and the Jews that look like birds are actually phoenicians
>>540348846And here they're doing it on reddit as wellIt makes absolutely no sense at all unless these people are still a cultural identity
>>540348902besides the sand people in that commentif you do not notice quite significant amount of so called native europeans that have a droopy lower lip then no wonder you can not understand
>>540348846whats your proof for child sacrifice in Carthage? Some old jewish tales?
>>540349961No the sources are mostly Roman. Quite extensive too:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_sacrifice#Phoenicia_and_Carthage
>>540348846Carthage was a j*wish civilisationThey literally worshiped moloch
>>540348846The entire world never stopped being Babylon, the only difference is we've been fooled into thinking things are different because we have 9-5's and apartment complexes now. Abortion is the modern day child sacrifice, war is modern day human sacrifice and the powers that be never stopped believing in or practicing magic/communication with evil in high places for power. One of the greatest tricks they pulled on normalfags was convincing them that the material is all there is in this world.
>>540350071The theory is that the Phoenicians got sick of being bullied by Rome and realized that they could exist as a secret society. They chose to pretend to be Jews. And so a lot of what happens in modernity is an inner ring of an ancient cabal of satanists using Jews as an outer ring of cover
The temple of solomon was modeled after, and build by the same architect as, the Tyrian Temple to Moloch/Ba'al. When Hannibal was defeated he fled to Tyre, a place he'd never been, and was hailed as a hero by people whom he'd never met for his actions against the goyi--- against Rome.
Ashkenazi DNA, what remains of it, clusters in southern italy, and guess what carthaginian territory wasn't completely salted and destroyed when the romans wiped them out? Yeah, southern italy.
>>540348846>Majority view among scholarsLmao fuck these demons.
>>540348846because they have to frame their entire world view as everything white=bad, everything not white=good
>>540350284Was that Sicily?
>>540350732If it was, the jews are onto something, Sicily is by far the best part of Italy for non-homosexuals
>>540351433That's interesting, I don't usually come across that opinion. Generally the north is considered cosmopolitan and "european" and the south are swarthy, fat and beset with mafia
>>540348846The Romans cited Carthaginian baby sacrifices as one of the reasons why Carthage had to be destroyed.Archaeologists went digging around old Carthage and did in fact find bone pits full of baby bones, proving the Romans weren't lying.Israelites (yes, the ones who wrote your fucking bible) were also practitioners of baby sacrifices, being part of the Canaanite tribe. It's in Exodus 34.
>>540351718You should read Plutarch's account of Archimedes' defense of Syracuse against Marcellus during the Second Punic War. Before they became fully mongrellized, Sicilians were known for their ingenuity, and were uniquely centered in the Mediterranean, at the heart of everything in the ancient world.
>>540351804As I recall, those events were painted in a somewhat negative light (to put it mildly) in that same "fucking bible".
>>540350145Theres also secret societies/blackmail rings that straight up torture, molest and eat children
>>540350145My favourite part of this is that we're all supposed to believe that the last 2000 years of western history is because everyone was a moron. Jesus was some fraud, the entire western world was just people too stupid to know they were being conned. Now we know better and Jesus never happened. Why is the ancient world so intertwined with religion? Everyone was a moron. Hang on, if everyone religious is a moron, what about Jews?
>>540348846Historians aren't eager for it either.I mean, why did they start what retrospectively would be called the First Punic War, hmm?It wasn't just a mercantile interest, the powers were too great on either side.What would drive them to this massacre where so little was gained and nothing was lost?Couldn't possibly be the robbery of gentile babies for rituals which even the Phoenicians of Tyre condemned, could it?The ones that Dido was exiled for, which led to Carthage?Most wars are about resources. Kids are a resource to the Carthaginians. Why wouldn't Romans protect their own kids?
>>540352926I'd say it's because they're cowards.Christendom spread by the sword, just like islam.And just like islam, its priests insisted that it's such a right way through life that all means of conversion are hallowed.There's one distinction however between Christendom and the other two sand faiths.The Bible is not the sum of catholic dogma.The early Christian philosophers are, the likes of Aquinas and Chrysostom.They added Greek philosophy to the mix.Without that, nobody alive today would endorse Christianity.But that also means that the best way to study your way forward is not to read more Bible.It's to read those philosophers, and then the philosophers who did the same and came up with their own contributions, and then the ones who repeated the feat.In the end it doesn't matter if Jesus was real or not.The catholic dogma insists that Jesus is one with God and that only Jesus can be God incarnate, that therefore Jesus has his God powers.Luke 9 tells the story of the 12 apostles getting every single joule of the exact same powers.Look at that, a contradiction.People might quote the John verse about the only way to God being through Jesus, that therefore he's the only one allowed to be God among Man.Not what it means. In that den of Pharisaic childrearing vipers, Jesus was the only one who could teach people anything of value that could improve their lives.That's what it means.
>>540348902>fucking reddityou can forensically examine the remains for murder aka sacrifice.if a child was cut in half you can still see it on the skeletal remains.
>>540353520Which philosophy do you think is relevant to Christianity?
>>540354049Apparently they used to burn them alive. One theory I've read about the grinning mask is that it is the expression that was made while the infant was being cooked. Another theory is that Baal expected that the parent of the child being sacrificed was happy so they wore this mask while their child was sacrificed.All sounds a bit fanciful but I do worry about the energy behind this mask. It looks bad, that's not a joyous expression. It's sinister.
>>540348846Well generally with the passage of time you're more able to say "wow that sounds like war propaganda to convince young men to go to war for the ruling class" so it's not a surprise that as more time passes people are more likely to stop believing the outlandish stories that were once taken as unbridled truth. I don't know shit about Carthage but unless there's actual proof of it I'd unfortunately have to side with the reddit niggers and assume it was fabricated or at least exaggerated by their enemies like most atrocity stories. But I really don't give a fuck about Carthage as it has no effect on my life at all, so I'm not going to look into it further or take a side.
Did you ever wonder why the Romans hated the Carthaginians and the Jews so intensely and passionately, as opposed to the Greeks or the Germans or the Gauls?It was because of racial anomosity, as the Carthaginians and Jews were Negroid, not Aryan. Everyone has implict (subconscious) racial bias.Note that the Gauls sacked Rome itself in 390 BC. Note how Arminius betrayed the Romans and ambushed them in Teutoberg forest in 9 AD. Yet the Romans had nowhere near the level of hatred for Gauls or Germans or Greeks as they had for the Carthaginians and Jews.
>>540348846Modern people are really fucking retarded. Canaanite child sacrifice is well attested, even outside of the Bible
>>540354555What the gauls and germans did to romans (sacking their capital) and betraying them and slaughtering them in the forest is 10 times worse than what jews or carthage did to rome. Why did romans hate carthage and jews so much then?
>>540349961Sacrifice in Carthage is not debated
>>540348846Do you really want to know why they defile and sacrify children?Once I do, your reality will change
>>540354555Interesting
>>540354096Greek.Plato, Socrates, Diogenes, everyone.All the Greek philosophies were considered by the early Christian scholars.The Roman philosophers as well.
>>540354759Yes I am interested in this because the Spanish connection is itself very interesting. Spain seemed to be hidden from history then popped into existence to unfairly banish the Jews and then everyone stopped caring again. There has to be something that explains Spain's weird presence on the worldwide stage.
>>540354718Not to mention Mithridates' massacre of the Romans, yet the Romans didn't hate them that much
>>540350222I could believe this.
>>540348846There is massively more child sacrifice today with abortion, so of course they want to downplay how evil it is.
>>540348846It was part of anti-Roman (anti-Western) propaganda. It's basically dead among actual knowledgeable people because enough archeological evidence has been found to pretty definitively say that, yes, the Carthaginians did practice child sacrifice. But blatantly incorrect pophis nonsense always outlives the point when it is proven wrong. And in this case the initial motive (wanting to claim White people are evil bad liars) is still around to help keep it going.
>Read this shit>Carthage spoke something close to Hebrew>Worshipped Baal>Their leaders had Hebrew TitlesInteresting
It's because Carthage is in Africa and this fits in the data set of lionizing African cultures while diminishing European ones. How can the same people deny graves of children in Carthage, but accuse Canadians of genociding children on purpose in boarding schools?People just aren't ready to hear about what happens in Africa. It would dispel their romantization of the 'migrants'
>>540355057sorry for the delay I was taking a napFirst of all you need to knwo there's a difference between The Creator and our God (The Sun)In our reality, there are entities capable of changing reality to your benefit if you increase their animaThe entity of Sacrifice, that is portrayed in Bersek, Moloch, Baal, Saturn is actually the same beingThe God of Sacrice and Suffering is the 2nd son of God (Sun)The anima which differs from the soul exist in the 4th dimension, our fisical bodies are a projection in the 3th dimension of the anima existing in the 4thThe Hierarchy goes as follow3D - 4DSun - GodJupiter - some humans name him Zeus the counterpart of MolochSaturn - named Moloch, Baal and othersand the minor gods the other planetsHumans are not stupid they don't kill childs for no reason it takes a lot to do it and if you don't get anythign in exchange that does not make senseSo the idea is that if you tune with Saturn and sacrify something to him, he alters reality in your benefit in the amount of the sacrifice.Children sacrifice pay highest, specially white aryan childrenRemember the aztecs killing ppl to make rain? do you think they were stupid? of course not. IT WORKED.Humans are not stupid if you do something repeatedly is because you know it works.So the men in the shadows the highest elites of Jew perform those rituals in the chambers of sacrify, increasing Saturn anima allowing him to guide their tribe towards the building of the ultimate Farm on Earth, the jewish heaven.How do jews surprisingly find a way or something happends that benefit them? How do they defeat all their enemies?How did Germans loose WW2?Why do you think people say "bless israel and you will be blessed and curse israel and you will be cursed?"They have a literal God(Saturn) helping them.
>>540359062The jews endgame is simpleBuild Earth Farms to be something the cattle can't escape or revolt against (Their Heaven)and to do that they need to reduce the anima of humanity to GOYIM animaThis way it's an infinite victory there's no posibility for a GOYIM anima to defeat a HUMAN animaHow do they downgrade people to goyim? literally by behaving like animasAnything that it is done in your 3rd dimension version of you affects the anima in the 4th dimensionBeing a "it's all relative" morals human being leads you to become an animalhuman goyim - animalsare vaccinated when toldeat slop they are told to eatmove where they are told to movebark when they are told to barkare not allowed to have their own godsare not allowed to have their own rootsare encouranged to breed without a single moral outlookif raped, don't care shit happendsif selling virginity, that does not matter broif being a slut, let them have fun broare tattoed because are told is funput piercings on their bodiesand a big amount of etcit starts to make sense doesn't it?it does not matter if you are aryan at a genetic level, the jewish farm we live will brainwash your mind to behave like animals do and little by little your anima in the 4th will become the same as an ANIMAL
>>540357404Just get Africans to tell their stories in the spaces Africans have been imported. That's all you need.
>>540359530so not only they want humanity to have a common goyim anima but they want it to have a common race, aka diluting all races and become one human race (in reality there will be two races, the goyim and the jews (rulers))the goyim will think their rulers are goyim like them but those are just simple puppets by the real elite class that will probably live in a separate land Think about the Tenryuubitos in One pieceSame conceptThe elite class will choose which goyims to sacrifi to Saturn, which to only have fun with, everyone is disposable to them because they have been reduced effectively to animals, there's no sin
How to fight against that?Well there are other Gods we used to pray that defended us from the Jews and their Bully God but I must admit they have overplayed all of us.Now we are rootless and every attempt to become Pagans, establish sovereignty of our roots is attacked from all parts of the Human FarmIt's bad, like really bad, they are currently attempting to secure the tech necesary to move their plan one step forward until no one can ever do shit against hemHowever we (white tribes) are still hundreds of millions and until 2100 there's still a possibility to turn the tides
>>540359062Seems to have paid off for Carthage amirite.
>>540348846This shit was happening in South and Central America 400 years ago.
>>540359062>Humans are not stupidThe irony-posting is strong with this one.
>>540348846>phoeniciansalthough they are semitic and share the common traits of being greedy child abusing merchants; they are not the same people of Judea
>>540360040we only eat adults tho
>>540360083arguments?
>>540354240Just read that the flames from the fire within the Kronos statue would burn the child alive as they lay on the hands of the statue (which I assume means the child was bound there).As the skin burned and shriveled up it would pull the face into a sardonic grin, and the fires would burn until the arms and legs were burnt off and the body fell into the bronze pit.Wife didn't like me reading her that detail this morning. Truly evil. All to the gods to make sure the ship of slaves or goods arrived in port safely.
>>540352177And yet the commands for blood and baby sacrifices in Exodus 34 are still there.
>>540354718All is fair in love and war. But child sacrifice? It is unforgivable, and always has been. Because it goes against the very nature of life itself.
