New income levels dropped
>>540361845Woohoo, Im only near poverty.
Well yeah, they aren't going up.Every single idiot at every wealth tier is paying more and more in usurious interest and can't afford to pay workers anymore because it all goes to the kikes.
Isn't this fake and gay influencer who got completely BTFO for being a scam artist like ten years ago?>Hi, I'm some fucking retarded faggot in my garage... here's my lambo...That cocksucking faggot.
>>540361845>the majority of Americans are lower incomeBleak.
>Tai Lopez
Wow I wish I had 15000 whole dollarinos
>>540361970dont take loans, first earn the money and then use the money.. yeah it takes few more years, but better than paying the jew...i cant imagine like borrowing 1million from the jew and paying back 1million and half, i would cry every day about it... just earn it and then use it, simple as.. can you imagine if NOBODY would take loans, everyone would first earn the money first? Jews would commit suicide
>>540361845>trifle segmenting of the worker class when the divide between the owner class is orders of magnitude higher
>>540361845The wage stagnation plus inflation is ridiculous. In my career field i should be making $300k yet im only making $130k with no chances of catching up to where i should be historically
>>540362216That's how I live brother.I did have to take out a loan for the house in 2020, but at a 15-year fixed near 2%, I zeroed that shit in 5 years flat. Goyim everywhere say I'm stupid and should have invested instead of paying it off fast.But let me tell you, there's no sleeping pill that works as well as simply knowing you can't be foreclosed on and that I minimized the amount of dollars the bank made on me.
>>540361845>Where do you stand?>500 replies no one will read>lol ez moneyi hate X
Oh cool an unsourced screenshot of a tweet from some literal who posted by some faggot 1pbtid
>>540361845I did not take the vax. Where does it put me?
I am the king of poverty. Feels bad man.
>>540361845How is 80k lower middle class thats like top 20% wagies. I want to see the ranges on these wages it feels like the top is screwing everyone over. Is this net?
>>540362594Now? Still in a very difficult place. But at least you'll live to see 2060 unlike vaxxies.
>>540362724>Is this net?No. It's fabrication of numbers based on an ever changing arbitrary criteria.
>>540361845Combined income with my wife--upper income, by about $40k margin (before annual performance bonus).
>>540362724I think it's household income, not individual. So basically divide by 2
>>540361845All of those are working class incomes.
>>540363140Cool it with the antisemitic remarks
>>540361845Lower income here and I have two masters degrees!
>>540361845>im upper income without even including investmentsfeels good mang. love this booming economy. low income miggies can cry more kek
>>540361845>25yo who loves with parents, middle class incomeI literally don't know what to spend it on. I basically have no living expenses. I don't even have a car.>>540361957Maybe I should just be top patreon members for a couple YouTube animators I like, but I have absolutely no interest in perks
>>540361957literally how nigga
>>540361845>Near poverty Fugg :D:DD
>>540363803>>540361957Misclick reply
>>540361845I make about 13k a year wow im so poor!
>>540361845everyone on that list is near poverty. Federal and state taxes, SS, and medicare absolutely rape your earnings. Effectively 30% of your income is taken from you right away
hot take
>>540361845The guy making 170k is in the same bracket as the guy making 1M or 1B?
>>540363855>be me>Joined the USMC and became a zogbot>decided to unplug from zogbotting and go into wagebotting>Started out stocking shelves at a big box home improvement store making 10.40/hr >decided people fucking suck; and that I was white and so I should demand more out of myself>took the STEM pill>made good grades but quickly ignored/forgot everything that non-math and stats courses taught>graduated with an MS, debt free>started working at one of the top 5 banks in the US in dealing with fraud/risk making 75.00/hr.>married a red-headed irish white doctor that delivers cesarian babies in OR. >had 5 children with her and live in a 100% white affluent, rural neighborhood.>I am getting older but I am told I get better with age (picrel)
>>540361845If your salary is your primary source of income you're not rich.
Is this just to encourage people because im serious if i had 15000 doll hairs id be unstoppable
>>540364689I would happily give up my right to vote in exchange for not having to pay taxes. I dont vote anyways
>>540364854Give me a job im a gwot vet with stem degree just sick of the stem corpo bullshit.
>>540361845No way this is real. I make 750k a year plus benefits. After mortgage, 2 car payments, credit cards, subscriptions, travel, and charity I'm living paycheck to paycheck with no savings. How tf are people living on under 200k a year???
>>540366105bait used to be believable
>>540366105You're goymaxing
>>540361845>upper middle class is the same as 40 years agouh, anons, I think they are lying to us
>>540365090That's based on household income retardo. That also means it could be multiple people making combined income in those categories.
>>540361845this is bullshit. it means upper class can't buy a shitty house
>>540364689https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/federal/latest-federal-income-tax-data-2025/
>>540362362>owner classFuck off commie
>>540364689Most of those people don't pay taxes anyway. Or they contribute basically nothing.I agree with they shouldn't vote though.
>>540361845Technically upper middle class but it doesn't feel that way at all. I can't even fathom how people get by with 1/8th of what I make
>>540361845If you're not making above 200k you're practically homeless in 2026
>>540366768>its real in my head
I'm middle class. I'm okay with that.
>>540361845Middle and upper class have more to do with net worth than income in any given year. People obsessing over income are missing the big picture
>>540366820Pipe down serf
>>540362469And it's only going to continue for the next few years meanwhile all the politicians will gaslight you about it not happening and show you some cooked numbers.
yay I'm totally fucked and my future literally doesn't exist!!!I can't wait to work another 40 years so that jews jeets and women can tithe my ass for all I'm worthno houseno landno propertyYES I DEFINITELY WOULDN'T DO ANYTHING IM A G-GOOD GOY AND I-I'LL DO ANYTHING IM T-T-TOLD TO D-D-DO.....I FUCKING HATE MY LIFE SO FUCKING MUCH FUUUUUCK YOUUUUUUUUU
>>540361845Interesting how poverty level seems to be approximately 1k*min wage
>>540361845how can you even make $16k a year? picking up change at the bus stop?
>>540366318I'm not the only one dingleberry
>>540367166working for jeet =)
>>540367032I'd do something if I wasn't one of the lucky few who got the virgin wife, kids, house (biggest stroke of luck was no student loan debt).If I was 35 without those things, I'd be first in line to actually do something, but the system has a curious way of placating exactly the right people to prevent such happenings.
>>540361845>>540361957>>540361970>>540362039>>540362091Shit's fucked
>>540367192Yeah, that post said $250k income, not $750k, you gotta make some effort here.
>>540366662stfu wagie. stop posting at work rentoid subhuman.
>>540367233thanks for your boomer take "got mine lol" anon.
>>540361845This doesn’t take student loans into account
>>540361845>Making less than 2,500 a year Fuck we are so poor :(
>>540361957Near poverty yet in a state that’s affordable with exceptions of rent prices in most cities. For faggot boomers use homes as casino chips
>>540367166No job at all
>>540361845This is so retarded, poverty is making under 8 bucks an hour? Doubt fucking anyone in burgenistan makes that little
>>540361845I’m upper income and I’m broke
>>540367484Grotesque waitresses with insufferable attitudes might
>>540361957That’s not in kangaroobucks. You’d be below poverty in the land of the free. Lay off huffing the petrol, mate.
>>540361845No longer middle class, now I’m lower middle class lol
>>540361845Shit I'm poverty
>>540367484>Slaving away for 40+ hours a week Fuck that.
>>540367484The South still has low wages. Go to indeed and look at jobs red states like Alabama and Mississippi
>>540367322I'm sorry, but that's how it is. I'm golden handcuffed to being a good dad and raising my kids and don't have time for political shit outside of posting here.But my boys are antisemitic, so that's something.
>>540366728You have to make less than $12,000 per year or something ridiculous like that to not pay any taxes. And since the median individual income in the USA is $45,140 the clear majority of taxpayers are in that sub $56,000 bracket.
Goyim: $15,960Goyim: $15,960-$31,920Goyim: $31,920-$55,820Goyim: $55,820-$83,730Goyim: $83,730-$125,595Goyim: $125,595-$167,460Goyim: $167,460-$300,000Jewish: Infinite Unearned Income
>>540362515Someone can still sue you and seize your asset. The bank having a lien on its probably preferable
>>54036756331 is like 50k here I did the conversion
>>540363803There is literally not much worth spending money on as a single male. The lack of dating market will likely crash the economy at some point if single men do less discretionary spending on things like eating out, travel, and buying homes.
>>540368043That's when I invoke 8th, followed by 2nd amendment rights.
>>540361845I’m a neet
>>540368473Whoops, 7th amendment lol
>>540367292Cry more little commie bitch, I bet your parents wish they'd aborted you
>>540361845I wonder if he still read 1 book a day?
>>540361845near poverty CRU
>>540361845Higher lower income. Feels bad man but then on the other, could be worse.
>>540361845Lol this is incorrect
>>540367192>per CNBCBecause they would never lie
>>540361845this guy went viral like 10 years ago crazy how those guys can just kick around
>>540361845France is near poverty level for 80% of the population.
>>540365150what would you do with 15k?
>>540368919We know.
>>540364689Deal, voting is theatre for the same corpo puppets and paying taxes for that shit is robbery. You can have your debt based ponzieconomy and the dog and pony show used to prop it up.
>>540363803You keep putting it into t-bills until you have enough passive income to never work again, retard.
>>540364689They already pay basically shit
>>540367719>my boys are antisemiticthat atleast brought a smile to my face anon.make them extra racist but teach them to be wise with it. not like that chud the builder loser. urah
Can someone nuke this country please to put us out of our misery and start over
>>540369702Do it but make sure you nuke israel and argentina as well.
>>540369287>369287▶>>>540364689>They already pay basically shitStill charged extra 15% for payroll taxes (social security / medicare) while rich people don't. That needs to be reversed.
if you live near the coast, $100,000/yr is poverty. ask me how I know.
>>540364689If you get less than I think 40k a year you don't have to pay taxes.
>>540361845>165k upper incomeThat doesn’t even qualify you for a home in many places wtf
>>540361845Need to adjust charts to include Boat-Loads-O-Niggers...Courtesy of ZOG.
>>540366728These people contribute more in taxes than billionaires do.
>>540363803I've been putting mine into my 401k and buying a fuckton of manga.Like literally $1500+ worth of manga in the last 3 months.
>>540369924>40k400k
>>540362594Depends. Version 1 is that you are a high income Person with an own firm. Version 2 is that you got fired because they needed you to take the shot, which would be 'poverty'.
>>540361845Lower income$23/hrThey want me to work 60 hrs a week but the work requires steroids to hit that many hours at my age of 40.
>>540370020Stupidly, hilariously, verifiably incorrect
>>540369899that's why in cali wali people work and live for years in the valley to have the dream to be able to afford to go to the coast 3-4 months during the summer before going back to the cheap dirty valley floor. 3-4 of my neighbors all do this
>>540361845Under 2k/year.
I’ll be out of middle class into upper middle class next year. Maybe this year if the bonus comes through the way I’m hoping. All I have to do now is ride my 5-10% raises each year forever
im upper income and living paycheck to paycheck
>>540361845Who else Poverty Kings?
>>540369702If this were Minecraft, China should just start sending hordes over to Cali. All the assholes that want this country to keep operating as it is will go die trying to fight le chicoms. A bonus is that we'll perhaps finally have a pretext to just nuke Cali out of the picture
>>540370117Where the fuck do you live, Alabama?
Poverty is 0If you have anything above 0 you are not impoverished.
>>540368606>>540367292highest IQ /pol/ debate
>>540361845Month or Year?
>>540369957Depends on where you live. In Marin County that may buy you a toolshed.
>>540361845>$83 grand a year is lower middle classI was born into poverty and am apparently going to die in poverty.
>>540361845I'm 400 burger pesos below poverty. YaY!
>>540361845125k is poverty level in California, abd yes people survive on 32k here like slaves.
>>540362156Exactly. If you have 4 kids and make below that first mark you get SNAP EBT TANF utility vouchers housing vouchers and in Louisiana Medicaid until your last kid turns 19. Why would anyone want to be above that line because you get to live for free. You can get free phones and Internet, bus passes, dental, mental health, and if just one kid has delayed speech it's an automatic 800 extra per month and of the speech delay goes away nobody ever reevaluates and that 800pm is for life. The system tries very hard to find the least little thing to award the 800pm to as many as possible once you are already on the welfare roles. Having offspring is like a major disability to the government. There is no reason not to be poverty tier. Live in has a job and that person or their income is never reported or checked by anyone. Best hack in America. Poverty in America is a golden ticket. Making those upper ranks means taxes upon taxes upon taxes and budgeting what is left.
>>540361845Take all the numbers and tripple them for accurate results, it isn't 2019 anymore.
>>540367192Because they are paying for wars, military equipment that gets left overseas, every economy on the planet, every state, every single thing every politician and their gaggle of aides need to live, and so called poor people that make replicas so they get to live for free.
>>540371412Define in clear terms what 125k buys you in California and why that's poverty level.
>>540371215It's actually a lot of money if you're single and budget/live like you have nothing. Once you hit 200 to 300k in savings...if you aren't retarded you should be able to start using your money to generate some sort of side income. Not necessarily real estate bullshit. Writing a book, getting a food truck going, stock trading, or some other sort of small local service like washing windows, or a cheap hydroponic grow op for berries or other herbs/greens.
New INCEL thread just dropped!
>>540371639See >>540371179Cost of living varies by region of course, Stockton and Bakersfield much cheaper than the coastal area from San Fran southward where only Hollywood actors own homes.
>>540361845I'm lower middle class even though I have no education or experience and just took a construction job from a deported illegal immigrant. Thank you, Trump!
For Spain:Poverty: under €50k (that's 90% of wagies)Lower income: €50k - €70k (around top 10% make this income)Middle class: €100k - €150k (needed income for the living standards of a boomer factory worker when he was young, now its the income of the most successful people in Spain, that is, top government officials and CEOs who get favors from government officials)Upper income: above €200k
>>540362098WTF I LOVE KIKES NOWfr tho jews aren't white
>>540361845apparently middle class now means you rent a tiny shitty house with a roof that leaks every time it barely sprinkles and a back porch run by a colony of alley cats, and drive a 10 year old car that breaks down every other month. i finally made it. we're all gonna make it.
>>540371431Basically this. I've been driving Uber for years now and met like 20 different people telling me exactly this. I don't collect gibs and live in poverty, but I have some family assistance with stuff like housing. I don't have a credit card. I mainly just shoot hoop, read, and mind my own business. I am constantly dropping off niggers and spics who all live in houses that cost minimum 200k. It's surreal what this country has become, lol. Economic zone for bankers. Fuck the kike Fed and motherfuck Trump and Kushner
>>540371773So poverty is not being able to buy a house with your annual salary?
>>540371897Thanks for the tip, Reddit.
You are NOT upper middle class at $125k. That has to be $200k minimum.
>>540372074Agreed, especially if you have non-nigger dependents
>>540370977A purple state currently under invasion
>>540361845>New income levels droppedMaybe for a SINGLE person those numbers are right.Keep in mind a family of 5 is the MINIMUM family size to achieve sustainable demographic growth.
>>540368043>not transferring all personal assets to a shell LLC or trustngmi
See, in the 1950s everyone lived in a dollhouse like this.
>>540371941Worked in the system for a time. Two sisters in adjacent counties had 11 or so kids between them. They got benefits for all of them from both counties. One rented a tiny two bedroom dead in the hood, the other used the section 8 in the tawny county nextdoor and it was a huge beautiful two story in an incredible neighborhood. Oldest kid mad at mom spills the entire scheme with details to authorities. Not a single thing happened to them. They both had men that also worked as well. Very successful scheme that not a single govt entity from social services to juvy lifted a finger to stop when the fraud was spelled out to them in their faces. Even passed it along to DA of both counties. Crickets. They figured America out and they pass info along to others no problem.
...but nobody wants to live like that now, McDonalds workers think they're entitled to a house like this and wonder why housing prices are so high.
>>540372394>>540372436Why the dishonesty?
>>540372396I feel honored just to have the privilege of having the opportunity to work 25 hours a day to pay taxes to take of those children of G*d.
>>540372514It's a migger reflex. They won't even be honest when it would better serve their intentions, just like their lying piece of shit messiah, who will tell you that working people are better off then they ever have been before.
>>540361845I finally got to lower middle class within these last four years(poverty-tier before). Still can't afford real estate.
>>540362724mortgage payment takes half your income in the majority of the US at 80k
>>540372436And the people in this house feed their family burritos every night for less than 20 dollars...right?
>>540361845I've always considered myself lower middle class but apparently I'm in poverty
>>540372436miggers will fill up the ditch alongside shitskins and kikes
>>540361845>I am literally poverty in the USbrutal
>>540372693I'd rather live next door to Russia maxxing large with some Aldi veggies and a loyley than be anywhere here. This place is utter hell almost anyway you slice it. Schizoid economy ran by schizoid noses. Forcing puzzle pieces to stick together with glue and brute force
>>540372436that house looks like what a poor person thinks a rich person house looks like
>>540361845>A German engineer salary is considered near-poverty in the USAmericans are unfathomably wealthy.
You can not live under 50k/year in this jewish hellscape
>>540372848Wealth is what you keep, not what you (((make))).
>>540371431idk man, I've been on the section 8 waitlist for 4 years & cannot afford a studio apartment in any given state in the US. I'm a single white dude with a credit score in the 700's, but got born with congenital disabilities that make it impossible to work a normal job. I tried working part time and ended up with blisters, cuts, and severe muscle fatigue after just two years. I was given SSDI, but not SSI...then a few years later, they award me SSI and continuously flip-flop about whether I have health insurance (They sent me multiple medicaid cards from multiple insurance companies within the span of a few months, even though I never enrolled in anything)...then during COVID I get a letter telling me I finally qualify for SNAP, and it wasn't until I got on SNAP that I got enrolled in the Qualified Medicare Beneficiary program. (The only medicare program where you get mostly-free healthcare.) The whole process seems convoluted and Kafkaesque, even if you have obvious/visible medical issues. I finally know exactly what my benefits are, and they're still sending me a new medicaid insurance card every couple of months. All of them have the same exact information on them, so I have no fucking clue how/why the system is choosing to make me new ones. tl;dr Being on benefits is only easy for people willing to play the system. If you actually need them, you can expect the government to tap you in the nuts every few months for ha-ha's.
>>540372848We keep trying to tell Europeans but almost without fail they scream about healthcare. It's not even their fault, their governments have tortured them with fear porn to keep them loyal to their system.
>>540372969change your name to Tyronius La'Quantyus and watch your shit get approved in 3-5 business days
>>540372901US taxes are considerably lower than Germany's, although the gap may vary depending on the state.
>>540372901>Wealth is what you keep, not what you (((make))).Goyish fingers typed this post.Somebody find his credit score and destroy it.
Near poverty. Sounds about right. Poorfag shithole.
>>540371971unironically yes. you're a golem if you think its acceptable to basically live in slavery for a home that is made out of cheap wood and rushed by poor immigrants. jfl.
>>540373047>change your name to Tyronius La'QuantyusOr Jesus Perz Gomez Arlupe Gomez with a fake SSN.
>>540373155it changes depending on country. the near poverty is probably just lower income in turkey.
>>540371639It gets you a used-car & a sleeping-bag.
>>540371431>if just one kid has delayed speech it's an automatic 800 extra per month and of the speech delay goes away nobody ever reevaluates and that 800pm is for lifethis is the game all the people in south texas play. Usually they get the kid diagnosed with ADHD though since it's a made up disease and impossible to disprove. Nice little slush fund for the parents. Oh and it's usually an anchor baby. Anyone working a square job in America is a gigantic fucking sucker, myself included.https://youtu.be/Wua83tyJFPo?t=19
>>540361845I am apparently lower middle class, but have a master's degree in engineering and work as a senior consultant.
>>540373357>It gets you a used-car & a sleeping-bag.Can't drive the car though, gas is expensive and insurance rates are insane.
>>540361845Reality: everyone under 200k is dirt poor and fucked.
>>540362091It would be interesting to see the “mode” wage instead of the “median” wage. But such a useful metric doesn’t exist.
>>540373427>50-80k with a mastersFucking grim
>>540373546That is what life is like in Sweden.
>>540373427>have a master's degree in engineering and work as a senior consultant.>>540373546>>50-80k with a masters>Fucking grimin spain it would be 30-50kminus half for the landlord + tip
I'm a neet since forever since parents died young and I never learned to be really an independent adult.I compensated my pain with alcohol and fucked up in the horizons of extreme addiction.In therapy I learned some cunt known and she fell in love with me so I used the chance and moved to her.I'm on my way to get a new apartment but I "earn"~1200€ and she earns 4800€ brutto. I am living very comfy but living costs are much lower than the usa
>>540373638... Big brain anons, there's a better life over ocean.
>>540373660That's going to be very regional
>>540373660>I'm a neet since foreverbased>since parents died young and I never learned to be really an independent adult.i feel for you fren>I compensated my pain with alcohol and fucked up in the horizons of extreme addiction.a NEET should live a contemplative life of self realization and cultivation. you need to take care of yourself, otherwise what's the point of being a king?i hope you're feeling better now with your new gf
>>540373660how do i learn some cunt known like you did
>>540364689Increase the voting age to 25 as well.
>In povertySo nothing has changed.Poverty NEET > Near poverty wagecuck niggercattle
>>540363140Let the goyim deal in the real world
>>540364689What is realistically stopping the voting population from voting to tax the poors
>>540361845>Lower middle class;_;
>>540373546that's Europe for ya. aside from Switzerland, Norway and some microstate tax havens, every country is dirt poor compared to the USA.I'm also in the same bracket as a senior dev contractor, but I'd probably make 250K+ for the same work if I was in the US.and no, nothing the governments provide us make up for the poverty. anyone with money still has their own car and pays for private healthcare.
>>540374242>and no, nothing the governments provide us make up for the poverty. aI know that, but far to many don't. Very sad
>>540374122>Let the goyim deal in the real world
>>540373932I was the usual chud but in secret obviously but I have grown my hair out really beyond shoulders and platinum blond and she believed I was some green voting retard hahahahaha wooong. Bitch.But still you should put your relationship above your ideology.
>>540364689>Or voteOne who does not have a right to vote should not have to follow the law.
>>540374180Unironically niggers.
>>540371716Yeah, I haven't been able to find solid work in five years. Saving? Impossible when I live off charity and Medicaid. $200k is as much a fantasy number as $200 or $200 million.
>Americans overcomplicating the class system we invented for some reasonIt's very simple;Do you work for an income you cannot exist without? Guess what, you're working class dickhead!Do you have assets that give you an income that sustain a lifestyle you want with out requiring you to work? You're middle class.Were you born into a family that has assets that produce enough wealth that none of you need to work? Guess what? You're aristocracy.
>>540361845poverty
>>540374509why is that cat throwing shit at me fuck off
>>540364854Nice larp poor fag shitskin
>>540374509Its even simpler:Poor - Assets own youRich - You own assetsWealthy - Posses a legacy to hand down to your kids.
>>540361845damn. I couldn't earn $10 even if my life depended on it :'( I'm not sure what my options anymore beyond doing acrobatics off a tall bridge
>>540363803Anon, go Venetian banker mode and just fund cool bullshit you like.
>>540361845>Middle Class $83,730 - $125,595In the 60's and 70's (and earlier still) a MINIMUM WAGE job would put you right in the middle of here adjusted for inflation
>>540361845Middle class, lower bound. What percentile of burgers does that put me in?
>>540364689Nah faggot, anyone under 100k shouldn't have to pay taxes. The government will just waste it anyway
>>540361845>125k>Upper Middleclass125k doesn't even get you a house. $40k to taxes (federal, state, fica), another 8k for retirement, health insurance is $400/month at any decent paying job cause they know you can afford to be shafted so that's another 5k down. You're already down to $69k by the time you're actually paid and your mortgage is $3k on a 7% 500k shit house (50 year old house half an hour from work) so that's another 36k gone. Groceries, utilities, car, gas, brings you to about $20k, congrats you save up $1,200 a month now and let's hope you don't need new tires or that month is gone. Your kid needs the dentist? That month's gone. Your wife needs the hospital? Shit man, 3-6 months gone.125k in this economy, in the places where people make that much (high cost of living areas), is almost paycheck to paycheck. I make 160k and get annoyed at costs.
>>540371716>>540374469>Writing a book, getting a food truck going, stock trading, or some other sort of small local service like washing windows, or a cheap hydroponic grow op for berries or other herbs/greens.This is retarded dont do what he says anyway even if you get that money.How do you make money? Could you move to a cheaper area and make a similar amount?
>>540361845$50,000 is king nigger rich in the south
>>540362098That mic looks like it’s about to nut.
>>540361845This is some bullshit, my shitty pay in Poland put me in lower income, how can a working burger earn less than me?
>>540361970blaming jews for your own races’ filthy rentier class is classic retard behavior
>>540375093Yeah upper middle class should be supporting a dumb spendy wife, a couple spoiled kids and a big house on one income
>>540361957Have you tried just like, working full time?
>>540361845Been bumped down from lower income to near poverty in the last 5 years. I've given up on life, just don't care anymore.
>>540364689>implygings that voting actually works as intentedTrue policy is always decided behind the curtain, we are simply goycattle walking towards the grinder
Poor is a mindset. People with it will find themselves struggling no matter what start they get in life.
>>540373969Fuck that, voting age should be 30 and males only.
>>540375396jew
>>54037556325 is fine, that's when the prefrontal cortex finishes developing.
>>540375565The Jews are right to call us goyim, do you see how many fucking retards our tribes have?
>>540375602I'd still insist on 30, you need some time after development to properly ground your logic with reality.
>>540375692Your logic is acceptable, Ivory Coast anon.
>>540361845even if i work 7 days a week delivering pizza with overtime and tips, i barely get over 50k>>540375255no the fuck it isn't fuck off
>>540375436Just take one day at a time bro
>>540372848It’s weird, you keep hearing that Americans are broke and living paycheque to paycheque, and they couldn’t deal with a 500 dollar emergency expense… and at the same time you hear shit like this.I think those big salary jobs are only in locations where a small trailer home is a million, because I watch Nick Johnson vids and am pretty astonished by the amount of poverty shown.
>>540375737Funny bastard
>>540375799I've always been naturally funny. Hell, every time I look in the mirror I burst out laughing.
I’ve been stuck at $85k for years because I can’t seem to get better jobs or the better jobs I can get demand me to sacrifice literally my entire life.
>>540375836We would get along in real life
>>540375861And? Do you have problems in your current life?
>>540375749I bet you’re one of those Virginia Yankees that claim to be southern
>>540375762I wanna die but I can't waste the opportunity I have to take someone who deserves it with me, the moment just has not clicked yet.
>>540376006Take your time in such a decision, and make sure that individual is part of the anti-Christ circle.
>>540375914Probably, I get along with everyone who isn't awful one way or another, though outside work I avoid everyone and keep to myself.
>>540376111Nice trips, I was born in your nation in County Durham.
>>540376166I'm from Wigan, me. And am closing this tab lmao.
Here's the real breakdownPoverty: under $60kNear poverty: $60k - $80kLower income: $80k - $125kLower middle class: $125k - $180kMiddle class: $180k - $280kUpper middle: $280k - $500kUpper income: above $500kFight me about it. I'm a single male making $250k btw.
>>540361845How much trickery can you fit in one report? Near poverty is a $15,000 gap but middle class and upper middle class is a $40,000 gap. If you make less than $100,000 , you are lower middle class easily.$15,000 isn't poverty it just plain isn't feasible unless you are living with parents (like me at 40 yrs old who teaches English online and makes $20,000)
>>540376216One of these days we shall meet and we shall hopefully be on the same side
>>540368324so much of the economy is tangential to men dating and having sex
>>540376346lol, look at this retard!>you need to vote for politicians that aren't part of big moneyyeah, so once they get into office they are immediately seduced by a million dollar paycheck.how many elections cycles do faggots like you need to understand voting doesn't work? remove Qualified Immunity and abolish presidential pardons and you'll start seeing some change
>>540364689I'm fine with this because republicans would never win another election ever again
>>540376617>republicans would never winThe designated loser party of Israel isn't suppose to win, only "muh principles" the people to death to keep them from finally shooting the jews and shitskins.
>>540375994i've never set foot in virginia. that's pretty far north and east
>>540376763We will eventually reach such a conclusion
>>540361845Lower income master race!
>>540376961Can't help it, my life is worth more than the shareholders increased value.
>>540362091You can do quite nicely on a "lower income" if you're not a fool with your money. Arthur Bremer the assassin of George Wallace in 1972? 71? was earning $2.30 an hour as a hospital janitor. He lived in a one room walk up cold water flat that is with just a tiny sink in his little slum room and a shared toilet and bathtub at the end of the hall. That was quite common back then and it does exist even now.The kind of idealized American lifestyle, the erroneously designated "American Dream" is mainly aspirational, and dependent on having an austere puritanical work ethic. An ethic for work at education and then at employment. It never was a given. It is a goal for those so disposed to pursue it.
>>540361845Lmao so exactly the same as here except our average is like 14k per year
>>540377037As I said it didn't even quite exist in the highly mythologized Eisenhower years.
>>540362098The fact only one anon pointed out the "here in my garage" grifting spic really speaks volumes to how many shills, bots, and newfags are on here.
>>540361845Upper Middle, but it sure doesn’t feel like it.
>>540361957Me too desu
>>540376264>fight meNo. I agree. I make $210k-$220k after bonus and wife earns $70k. We have 2 kids and I have to watch our household spending closely to make sure the kids can do summer camp(s), boy does hockey and drums, daughter does ballet and hunter/jumper, and we still have enough left over for retirement planning, a family vacation every year, and a little for hobbies. We got lucky buying a house in 2020 when rates were last bottomed out. I know for a fact back in the early/mid 90s my dad made $150k all-in and my mom didn’t work. Two vacations a year, often one required major flights, he had a project car, a boat, he wasn’t drowning in debt, and bought a 5 bedroom new build home in a really nice area in 1992 for $150k or basically 1x his salary, which requires 4x for me.
>>540361845Ha i live in poverty ($4k-$5k a year)
>>540377224it's rough out there.
>>540361845I will always live in poverty.
>>540377277Lmao get fucked poorfagt. 9000 a year
>>540375160>How do you make money? Could you move to a cheaper area and make a similar amount?I make zero right now because I'm recovering from surgery but usually make $1-3,000 a year in odd jobs. It's bullshit and marginal but, hey, I just got my first proper call back interview in five years so I'm stoked even though nothing ever happens.
>>540377183Yes but the key to the idealized Eisenhower years which I witnessed a tiny bit of 1957 definitely 1958 (grade 1) weren't so much about just material prosperity as they were about the discipline and morale of the populace at large though of course there will always be drunkards and scoundrels and fools always. That nuclear family could be quite prosperous and happy even on a construction laborer's wages, but not if the husband was a wife beating alcoholic.I'm not sure how to compare it with today. It may have largely disappeared in big cities but it still certainly resides in suburbs.
>>540364689Sounds based to me.
>>540377339Often, morally charged individual will find themselves in such a position,
>>540363140Yeah, like how am I upper middle class?! It’s all fake and gay
>>540377368FUCK YOU>wish i was making that much a year
>>540361845thats per month right?
>>540367192These are what professionals refer to as “lying faggots”.
>>540377476Don't be misguided, these classes are designed to cause petty bereavement amongst the common man.
>>540366728>imagine thinking the poors pay less than the rich NGMI
>>540364689How would you account for stuff like sales tax?
>>540377582Yeah I will always be poor. Not in mindset. But in how I approach spending. I eat tuna from the can with rice about half the week. I still am not making headway on improving my quality of life compared to my parents. Stagnation doesn’t even begin to honestly to the story of today. I make $130k and I am not bad with money. It just all goes away with cost of living in middle america. How are other income brackets even alive at this point?It’s gonna start getting hot any day now. I can sense people are breaking
>>540361845I don't see a person's monthly income of $15,960 as 'poverty' - is everything extremely expensive in USA?
>>540361845I am lower middle class according to that, which seems about right tbqh
>>540361845Hell yeah im lower middle class
>>540361845Unemployed, so so poor not even listed
>>540361845rent is 25,000 a year.20 if you are in a more ethnic area.100k is the poverty line now. >the top bracket is 167k so all the jews and the general manager of a used car dealership get the same bracket.laughable. >YEAH IM MIDDLE CLASS MAKING 60K A YEAR. rent is 2250 a month, for a lease agreement you must prove you bring in 3 times that.middle class people are homeless according to this. where is the not have to live with parents line at? because its not at 55820, ill tell you that fucking much.FUUUUUUUUUUCK telling us our worthless foreskin coupons are valuable and make us "middle class" when "middle class" is new normal for "poverty" this is hilarious that nobody does anything about any of this.
>>540377838I forgot to add: I refuse to live around niggers. You need 130k/yr in most parts of the US if you don’t want your kids brutalized by nogs. It’s a tax on living in civility and peace
>>540373506minimum wage, as of 2010https://www.mybudget360.com/what-is-the-median-household-income-in-the-us/
>>540362594Fugitive. The only way to atone is take more refu... I mean skilled workers.
>>540377749Yeah dude when you get a tax return you arent paying shit
>>540377870>is everything extremely expensive in USA?yes, starbuks coffee is literally $160 for a cup
>>540361845great news poor people!we changed the definition of poor!now 167k is the top bracket of income! we don't think about anyone higher than that!you are now middle class because 167k+ is the cap for our average!doesn't that make you want to spend money?im going shopping to buy rich people clothes.
>>540363855Literally how are you not???
>>540378083hookers are 200 an hour and they are ROUGH
>>540375602Most major math discoveries were made by people under 25. This is salty foid nonsense to lock away women younger than them to increase their fading SMV
>>540378142can I just pay her $300 not to fuck or even look in my direction?
>>540366662Shalom!
>>540361845>Low incomeI'm better than the poors!
>>540377502Yeah me too, that was actually my last job and I'm unemployed nowNow I'm aiming for at least 40k a year and my plan to achieve that is getting the fuck out of this shithole and finding a job in Switzerland doing literally anything
>>540361845EUROPOORS BTFO!
>>540378072I still pay more than corporate America does
>>540378200QUITE an upgrade available for that much money, you could almost afford dinner and half a tank of gas. take a look at this american seductress
>>540376264Delusional. No need to fight with a delusional retard. You already fight with yourself mentally on a daily basis with the shit that you posted
>I make significantly more than the amerimutts that constantly harp on about muh money >and I still get free healthcareLmao. I will remember this.
>>540378505Okay I was being slightly conservative, I guess you could increase all of those numbers by 2x if you have multiple children. I don't think I undershot it by so much to be called delusional though...
>>540378490hot digity dang! I won't even mind "her" bulge and write it off as labia tumor
>>540366984>next fewanon...its overit will continue to go down until people in the west are making less than people in china, indonesia, vietnam, india, africa since those countries have no taxes or regulations that crush business
>>540361845>The U.S. economy saw an unexpected declined in jobs during July while the unemployment rate edged lower, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported Friday in a snapshot that showed a slowing employment picture.>Nonfarm payrolls fell by a seasonally adjusted 23,000 for the month, compared with a downwardly revised 20,000 for June. The Dow Jones consensus forecast had been looking for a gain of 83,000.>At the same time, the unemployment slipped to 4.1% as the labor force participation rate fell further to 61.4%, its lowest in more than five years, another indication that fewer Americans were working or looking for jobs.>In addition to the weak numbers for June and July, the final count for May was revised down to 63,000, or 66,000 lower than the prior estimate. The revised numbers brought the 12-month average down to just 34,000.>“The July employment report solidified that the labor market is not out of the woods quite yet,” said Nicole Bachaud, a labor economist at ZipRecruiter.>While jobs held flat, worker pay also saw virtually no gain during the month. Average hourly earnings increased by just 2 cents, bringing the 12-month average down to 3.2%, below the forecast increase of 3.5% and the lowest since May 2021.>Household employment, which measures the total of people reporting that they are working and is used to calculate the unemployment rate, fell by 87,000. However, the unemployment rate declined because of a decrease of 264,000 in the labor force. Outside of the Covid era, the participation rate is at its lowest since the middle part of 1976.
>>540371639125k gets you a bunk bed and minimal unhealthy goyslop in frisco.
>>540361845I make 60k before taxes...
>>540361845A 2 room apartment in Seattle costs >$8000 a month, easily running $97k a year. It's the absolute minimum anyone could hope to raise a child in. You are required to make 3x rent. That's $291k to even qualify to rent. And you need a deposit, first and last month so $24k cash (- 1 month because it is part of what you pay to be there since it's the first month, $16k) which varies from a few thousands to tens of thousands depending on how far you move to get there. $291k(-36k rent on the cheap side) (-$97k rent for actually nice places with gyms)-$103.95K for taxes-$12-18k for moving in-4% (11.64k) to 401k so you don't retire with literally nothing $60k left. Then you have to pay for medical Ins ($4000/Y), car payments ($7.8K/Y), car insurance ($1.6K/Y), car registration ($400/Y), rental insurance ($600/Y), internet ($960/Y), power ($2K/Y), water ($2K/Y)-$19.36k$40.64K-$107.6K left if you can qualify for a nice 2:2. >Here's the problem.An L6 Senior technical role at Amazon only pays around $256k, not 291k, such a worker cannot even consider the nicest 2:2's) and everything beyond $180k base salary is RSU's that aren't even vested entirely for 4 years. You have to rent the cheaper units. You can only afford up to the $4k 2:2 units. Get in as a senior Dev/PM/UX then you can make it work in a very modest apartment and have enough to invest some. That's more lower middle class. Owning a home is unthinkable on this income. Houses up here begin over $1M unless you live in the ghetto. You want a school zone of a 5 or higher and 3 rooms? That's $1.2M for a dilapidated fixer upper. You don't qualify for the loan.Even if you stay in the apartment, that cannot afford a kid. In Seattle daycare per kid is around $42k. Summer care programs are over $500 a week. $250k is not the ceiling it is the floor where households earning that will struggle to pay for a single kid. Seattle is the 7th highest cost cities in the US. 6 cities are much worse.
