The U.S. is officially surrendering to Iran.
why not just do that before the war in preparation? lmao retard copeniggers
Can't wait for the kino drone footage btfoing new pipe infrastructure
Taking away Iran’s leverage is a good thing
>>540365434>50% of oil still needs to go through hormuz>irrelevant
>>540365434Muricans really think than every country there building more pipes? They are delusional....pipes are expensive and also woundrable to attacks.
>>540365434>can't park your aircraft carrier close because they'll get BTFO >we're going to just build another strait nerrr nerrr
>>540365622two more years and the pipelines will be up and running
Scott Bessent is nearly as retarded as OP
>>540365584This, its fucking cope cause if the straight never mattered, we wouldntve been talking about it all these months
>>540365434Iran doesn't negotiate with rapey child adopting faggots.Iran only respects hetero men who can conquer vagina and produce offspring
>>540365580Dead zogbots and Israelis are a better thing
>>540365434They used the choke point as a choke point? Dastardly Persians.
If you surrender to your enemy you win.
>>540365434>two yearsThat's 5 years and 300% over budget in American construction time btw
trump's about to nuke them
>>540365434This was always the plan to make North America + Venezuela the new oil exporting hotspot of the world. The real question is, will the chinks actually buy the oil and become dependent on globohomo to a degree? Or do they take the plunge and go for Taiwan?
>>540365853So what happens if he does and it still doesn't result in the strait opening?
>>540365909the rest of the world gets nuked too
sour fucking grapesTrump and his incompetent swamp grifters fucked up
>>540365434>Heh, didn't want it anyway
>>540365584it was supposedly shut down completely for months and gas prices here barely changed
>>540365957they're nigger who will chimp out. absolutely guaranteed
>>540365434nobody seems to be talking about the implications of new rules for waterways being applied in other locations, like the Baltic, or the straits of Malacca, or the Taiwan straits.
>>540365675>if the straight never mattered,It actually never did "matter" because the entire point of the war is destroying Iran for Israel
>>540365666You won't believe what just happened. An underground pipeline just flew over my house!
>>540365434>We just need to spend tens of billions in making new pipe infrastructure for the next 2 years (lol) and everything will be fine!
>>540365434Underwater from where to where? Built in just two years?
>>540365434Two more years.
Iraqi dinar Chads rise up
>>540365909A slap on the thigh while exclaiming "dang it!"
>>540365434>We're still winning though, don't worry about it goys! We just need to increase taxes and draft more young WHITE men to make it happen!
>just spawn in some pipelines broDoes anyone actually believe this
>>540365434>two years>replace everything with underground pipelinesYeah fuckin right
>>540365434>underground pipelinesWould be a shame if the Chad's that are willing to blow up oil tankers in their coastal waters, knowingly polluting their beaches for years, figured out this plan and decided to drone the pump stations instead. And then any crews sent out to repair them, right after the repairs are at 95% completion. You fuckers better learn some manners.You're enemy has figured out they have everything to lose if they back off now. Good times. The best part is, the enbridge corridors that feed 6+ million barrels to the US from Canada are just as susceptible. And it's not like there are any Chinese or Indian nationals (who might get alittle angry when a 100 million poos starve to death in the next year) in Canada.
>>540365675I mean, it definitely matters to somebody.And that somebody definitely wants it open or there wouldn't be teasing, nor shill tongue wagging.
>>540366092>Underwater from where to where? Built in just two years?Check out this goy....
>we didn't want the Hormussy anyway
>>540365434Sure they can pipe it to the Red Sea but at what cost? Pipelines across the entirety of Saudi Arabia are expensive. The largest share of the oil/gas that goes through the Strait comes from Saudi Arabia. So if they price in the cost of new pipelines and piping it across to the Red Sea and tack it onto barrel price, how much is the consumer really saving as opposed to just going through the Strait, whether they pay Iran or not? Iraq and Kuwait can’t simply pipe all of it either. Also the Houthis can threaten the Red Sea and increasing the volume of ships transiting in and around the Red Sea costs money. The question in two years then becomes, do you want to pay more to the Saudis for use the new pipelines or to the Iranians to transit the Strait…
Why didn’t they build the pipelines first, then start the war after?
>>540366002>barely changedkek
>>540365434anybody would like to choke me while I'm raped? that would be awesome
>>540365434Pipelines to where?Asians need that oil.Mediterranean is too far for the tankers.Red Sea is vulnerable to attacks by the Houthis.Cannot go north as the access to the east is blocked by Iran and Russia.To the south through Oman?
>>540365434>the Iranians have used, or tried to use it, as a choke pointHow are they allowed to do this?
>>540365853Nukes will devastate the country but Iran has decentralized command structure. That’s why killing the leadership twice did nothing.You really can’t hope for a regime change without ground troops.Nukes + ground troops would get the job done but it’s also a political suicide for Trump and US will be globally denounced for committing mass genocide.
>>540365434The obvious plan was to not stir the hornets nest and either do this, or gradually integrate Iran into the world economy until younger and more moderate people take over. It was pretty much guaranteed success.Naturally the hornets had to be stirred. Now everyone gets their dick stung for years.
>>540365744you shouldnt champion the thinning of your own military, that leaves you vulnerable to chinese/russia invasion
>>540366297Won't fruit, contests Libya's and Turkey's EEZ Agreement, and now with Saudis and Pakis doing a Security Pact with themForget it yehudi
>>540365434oooh, "pipeline."what a bitchin' tune.best surfer music ever.we'll build our pipelines and win.
>>540365548On October 4, 2001, a drunken Alaska resident named Daniel Carson Lewis used a .338-caliber hunting rifle to shoot a hole in the Trans-Alaska Pipeline System near Livengood, north of Fairbanks. The high-pressure breach spewed roughly 285,600 gallons of crude oil into the wilderness before repairs stopped the leak.
Fun facts: Nothing is happening in Iran. For the year before this kicked off, Trumps people were in communication with the Iran leadership, and everything you're watching is market/political manipulation where Iran and the US are pretending to be enemies. Go and find actual footage of any conflict happening and not just empty sites being bombed for public relations purposes. This is all fakery. You're all sheeple...and don't bother trying to deny you're sheeple as I'm leaving this thread and will never see your reply.
>>540366002>here barely changedCmon jew. Try harder.
>>540366034that would take intelligence, we're ruled by egotistical simpletons
>>540365434the petrodollar will die soon. the US will undergo the worst financial crisis in it's history. i hope you all bought gold/silver!
>>540365434taco fafo
>>540365434>just lead the oil through a thousand kilometer pipeline in the scorching desert>through the territory of many terrorist groups
>>540366468Already built.Pipelines coming up from Saudi tie in at Eilat.Lines bypassing the lower Gulf are coming onstream now.This whole shit-show was supposed to shut down the gulf to shipping. Forever, one way or another.
>>540365434> Muh pipelinesYeah, and what about anything else? What about shipping containers? Are Bahrain, the UAE and Qatar supposed to become landlocked countries from now on? Fucking retards
>>540366679>nowNothing has been built since February, lying kike
>>540365533This. And checked. They never do anything about anything until its too late
>>540365666Will you send the fertilizer and the rest of the products besides oil through this pipeline too?
>>540366708their imminent famine is a necessary evil to secure the new world order
>>540365675>if the straight never mattered, we wouldntve been talking about it all these monthsBut thats been exactly the MAGA strategy with most everything ghis whole time>Trump creates/identifies a problem that he claims he will solve better than any president before him>He inevitably fails because hes such a loser>Trump and his base claims it wasnt even a big deal anyway and only trannies ever cared about itHappened with the reflecting pool, happened with Epstein, with Iran...
Trump has been a turbo retard. Truly.
>>540365434>WE DIDNT WANT THE STRAIT OPEN ANYWAYSgoddam I love winning
>>540366794you affraid of dying of hunger? bitch, consider it fasting and it will solve cancer finally
>>540365533the government has two moders:1. constantly rob the population blind without dealing with issues2. react to issues when its too late and the problem is out of control
>>540365666so the world just needs to suffer and collapse further for two more years because Trump betrayed his country in order to cuck to Israels war for Netanyahu and Epstein?
>>540366002>barely changed
>>540366464You have to love that the decades of US attempts to completely exclude Iran from the global economy at the behest of screaming Jews is what ultimately created this mess today. We’ve forced them to adapt and become lean flooding the field with low cost and low tech solutions while everyone in the American sphere has grown bloated and incapable of seriously fighting relying on expensive tech to fill the gaps. Had the Jews been able to concede even slightly to Iran in the last 50 years they probably would’ve had their gay neo-lib color revolution by now.
>>540366438You can just do things
America can't even scale up to build artillery. I'm expected to believe they can build pipelines in the gulf that's just going to get bombed by Iran anyway
>>540367193Here's where I post a fleet of ww2 ships and pretend like we can still produce that
>>540365580They will have free reign to rape Saudi Arabia and Israel
>>540365580It’s bullshit cope to end the conflict. They can’t build a pipeline deep enough in two years that will prevent sabotage. It will be far cheaper to just pay a toll. They’ll talk about it, then it be memoryholed.
>>540367074Correct. Turns out art of the deal was letting the other niggers get everything while you art of the steal by embezzling the tax payers.
>>540367250But the ice cream barge!! The ice cream barge!! Meanwhile China built more commercial vessels by tonnage in 2024 than the entire US shipbuilding industry has built since the end of WW2
thats a straight lie tho
>>540367363>art of the deal is fraudif only miggies had caught on before trump got into the office and started defrauding tax payers again
>>540365434Can you build a pipeline to carry sulfur? How about helium? Asking for a friend.
>>540365622>woundrable
>>540367193> I'm expected to believeNo, intelligent people don’t believe this nonsense. Only retards do while the people who actually know what is going on position themselves. This war is meant to render the Middle East incapable of being the oil exporting hotspot de jure. It was the U.S./west who set this geopolitical and economic infrastructure up originally. The rest of the world got wealthy and developed off of it while we just became weaker. Now we’re flipping the entire game board of the world economy over on its head, to try and engineer things to be much more advantageous for us in a real economic sense, not a gay money printing fiat scam. It’s going to be very painful for the rest of the world too probably, but those folks never cared what was happening to the American population for decades anyway. It’s time.
>>540367528kekd
Yemen shouldn't be a problem at all.Not its insurgents, not the Bab-el-Mandeb.Enough with Djibouti, enough with Somalia, enough with Eritrea, enough with Sudan.Have Egypt annex everyone.https://imgur.com/a/2CbAeeKThe strait of Bab-el-Mandeb shouldn't be interrupted. The problem is no one's attempting a solution from the western end.The Red Sea should be stabilized and safeguarded by Egypt.
>>540367344Sabotage or not it's just logistically retarded.>>540367385>>540367250A lesser known corollary to "import the third world, become the third world" is "import megalomaniacal nazi engineers, get megalomaniacal nazi engineering".
>>540367570The migger will plumb the depths of the cope well before facing reality.
>>540367656Sorry gayanon. Houthis have owned the Red Sea for about 3 years now.
>>540366002Mostly because China started using their own reserve instead of buying, if this continues they will need to enter the market and it's going to be bad
>>540366278>Would be a shameIranians are too retarded to understand such a simple concept. They would rather sit and wait to get attacked again and wonder why it keeps happening.
>>540367415They're still extremely retarded and need to be culled
>>540367876Two more weeks. Always the same with these migger rats, just two more weeks.The cats are a total non issue and complete rat victory is just around the corner.
>>540367938What's it like taking a fat cock up your bum? Do you have a fat cock?Would you like to stuff it into me bum?
>>540367973russia lost, everyone hates russia, russia has no allies. even mexicans spit on the russian people. you are total niggers
>>540367159Then you're revealed as incapable of existing on a planet with international waters and must be deported to the sun, or eradicated in another SWIFT way.
>>540365434These pipelines MUST route through israel! They MUST!!!
So why wouldnt iran just bomb and pipelines bypassing hormuz?
>>540368232we destroyed iran's military completely a couple of months ago, don't you remember?
>>540365434Makes no difference when the vast majority of wells are engulfed in flames.
>>540365434How do these retards think they are going to not only lay these underwater pipelines but also protect them? Do the Americans think they are the only one's capable of pulling off a Nord stream?>>540366002This nigger is going to learn a hard lesson while I'm fighting off the hoarde.
>>540366888no one said that retard. you are the one who should be afraid of your food being watered with sewage
>>540366346>The question in two years then becomes, do you want to pay more to the Saudis for use the new pipelines or to the Iranians to transit the Strait…NO. The real question is "how will this impact global oil production, adn how will THAT impact the gulf states?"Because it wont just be saudi oil that gets more expensive, but Irans too, Iraqs etc ... and of course every other oil producer on the market. And the rise in price causes a cascading effect. The higher the price goes, the more oil deposits on the planet become economically viable.you are correct when you state that whether the saudis pipe the oil, pay the toll (or build a military and attack Iran) ... regardless of what they do, the new cost of doing business is here to stay. the price NEVER goes down, not for long. All your life it kept rising, and its going to keep rising. So the real question is, "What are the unintended consequences of causing global oil prices to rise" ... "How much will they rise?" We have to answer the question "how much" before we can begin to extrapolate how that will effect the market.but to put it simply. a permanent increase in real value of oil would also cause a number of cascading effects in the oil industryto be continued...
>>540365434Take another dong hit, newsie. Iran is about AI and bitcoin. Strait is exoteric bread and circus. kys
continued from aboveHow much oil is "waiting" just below today's economic threshold?The industry doesn't have a single cutoff. A simplified example:Break-even oil price Approximate effectWithin ~5% above today's price Small discovered fields, lower-quality shale acreage, mature field extensions become more attractive10–20% above Larger offshore developments, some oil sands expansions30–50% above Frontier deepwater, Arctic projects, difficult heavy oil>100% above Synthetic fuels, kerogen oil shale, Where would additional production come from?It would come from known discoveries that are currently marginal.Examples include:1. Mature U.S. shale playsPermian BasinBakkenEagle FordThousands of drilling locations have expected returns that are very sensitive to oil prices.A 5% increase could make another layer of lower-quality acreage profitable.2. Canadian oil sandsOil sands have high operating costs but enormous reserves.expansions of existing mines3. Mature North Sea fieldsHigher prices could justify:tie-backs to existing platformsextending platform liferecovering remaining pockets of oil4. Offshore BrazilBrazil has many known discoveries.A modest price increase could move smaller satellite fields above investment thresholds.5. West AfricaAngolaNigeriaGhanahave numerous discovered offshore reservoirs awaiting development.Many are economic only at somewhat higher prices.6. Latin AmericaArgentina (especially Vaca Muerta)would likely see more drilling.7. Middle EastIronically, the response here would be relatively small.Production costs are already extremely low—often below US$10–20 per barrel—so a 5% higher oil price doesn't unlock much new supply. Production is often constrained more by policy and quotas than by economics.
>>540366465Most of them are zogbots who want us dead anyway
>>540369618This desu
>>540368035>>540367973Are you guys fucking tranny spergs or what? I’m not a migger nor is this thread about NAFO tranny muh Russia bullshit
>>540365580>>540365434This guy >>540367344 is right. It's not just a matter of building new pipelines south to bypass the strait. You need specialiazed ports in order to handle the amount of ships and oil as well, so we're talking about tens, even hundreds of billions of dollars to build probably the worlds largest oil export port on the coast south of the straight of hormuz. And even if you did that, it would still be in range of Iran's high tech hypersonic missiles that cannot be stopped by any anti-missile system currently on the market.
>>540365434pipelines can't move anywhere near the volume that is moved in shippingwhy do you retards post twitter screenshot threads
>>540366562>A single drunk fuck with a rifle undermined billions of dollars spent on glowiesBased as fuck.
so to maintain its current strangle hold on oil as an economic weapon, if Iran were to be able to charge a toll on the straits.So lets say Trump surrendered today, Iran sank a US carrier! they had nukes all along.in the end, by chargin a toll, to maintain the status quo, and their stranglehold on oil ... they have to pump more oil and force the price down harder by expanding thier supplybecause if they let the price rise .... more oil comes online ELSEWHERE. It becomes worth it to do more tar sands, argentina and brazil become oil producers, africa gets in on the gameYou see the saudis have played a game with oil since the seventies, keepin the price below the threshold required for it to become economically viable in 1000 other places. and the only way to do this is to keep oil below 70$ a barrel. they have to keep that oil flowin at that price, or it becomes worth it for others to produceSo no matter what Iran does, even if they had a nuke this morning ... they cant win. the situation for them is unwinnable. Peak oil is ending, and with it all the power they once had. The world is full of 70$ a barrel oil. Its all over the place. Indoneasia, Africa, South america, south china sea... canada, north sea, .... they've all got their own supplies of 70$+ a barrel oil. and the only way the Gulf states can overcome this new price shock ... is to PUMP EVEN MORE CHEAP OIL!!!!the Iranians are going to TAX THEMSELVES.
>>540365580>one of the only countries to actively oppose total jewish dominion of the earth>taking away their leverage is a good thingyou are essentially just a jew at this point
>>540365877The only thing amerimuttland can export is faggotry and goyslop. Humanity is tired of seeing their sons and daughters troon out and become fat fucking drug-addicted hobgoblins because of mutt feminist degenerate programming. The world will breathe a sigh of relief when goykike lardgolem pedodollar tyranny finally comes to an end
>>540370296Yes, listening to shills like him is pointless and worthless
>>540365434PIPED STRAIGHT TO THE AQUIFER NIGGERS
>>540369977>And even if you did that, it would still be in range of Iran's high tech hypersonic missiles that cannot be stopped by any anti-missile system currently on the market.So what are you saying.That if after areeing to allow Iran to own the strait, the saudis legally build thier own export terminal, at the cost of billions of dollars, that bypasses the iranians ability to collect a toll. they build that infrastructure on their own land.the iranians will just attack them anyways!!! iran is just a government of criminals? What are you saying?
>>540370365>kvetching intensifies I struck a nerve
>>540366620
>>5403654345d chess.This was all to get the gulf states to use the new Syria pipeline.This is also why Lebanon is so important.
>>540366654>muh terroristsNice try kike.Put on your thinking cap and try figuring out who the real terrorists are.
>>540365548Its underground dipshit
>>540366679
>>540365434>>underwater pipelinesSo...?.... They are already there?? Then: WHY ALL THIS FUCKERY??!IF NOT: Building them in an active warzone? While being targetet, shot, drones, etc? In TWO years? Nope.That's bullshit.
>>540365434That's the only leverage the terrorists have right now. Without the Strait they won't be able to do anything in retaliation while they get bombed relentlessly. RIP terrorists
>>540370459> the iranians will just attack them anyways!!!>iran is just a government of criminals? What are you saying? the Iranians have demonstrated the ability and willingness to do it if they so choose. No one can stop them. With that knowledge in mind, if one is an investor, or even a Saudi billionaire, do you spend billions building that pipeline which only exists as long as Iran stays happy? Or do you do what the international business community has always done and say “fuck that we don’t want to lose billions on retard shit, let’s invest in a safer, more economically viable play?”
>>540365622I think they mostly just need a pipeline that empties out to the other side of Saudi Arabia.
>>540366066Hamas rocket?
>>540370673>Without the Strait they won't be able to do anything in retaliation while they get bombed relentlesslyWith what bombs, anon? We're out.
>>540365744I hope they string you from a lamppost.Fucking traitor
>>540370476Silence, mutt boy
>>540370673> Without the Strait they won't be able to do anything in retaliationAre you Patrick Star? Do you think the strait of Hormuz can just be pushed somewhere more useful for jews?
>>540365548that would finally motivate people to fully eradicate the terrorists.
>>540365434hes right you know. irannys fucked up big time. instead of going after the mutt bases they retaliated against the global economy affecting neutral countries in global south. no one is going to depend on the strait anymore. they’ll pay the toll for the time being while looking for other suppliers.
>>540365434Scott Bessent is a fag who takes men's cocks up his ass and lets them squirt their semen into his anus.
>>540370757>if you don’t like israelis u a traitor Shalom Moshe. israelis are not Americans and never have been. They aren’t White either
Get a "Bucket-Brigade" of Niggers to stretch across the continent.Problem-Solved!
>>540365584At its peak only 20% of the global supply went through there
>>540365666That mentality and thinking everything is fine. Not taking accountability. Or reality. Is precisely the reason why you must ALL be culled.
>>540370592Those pipes have to come up somewhere, you idiot. People will know where these pipelines run and can infer their endpoints.
>>540365434LmaoBut on serious note, pipes won't save Arabs> if not dug underground, basic toy drone can be used to blow them up> even if dug underground, you can blow up the well & get the same resultAnd let's be honest, Arabs know this. They'll build up those pipelines, but will do whatever to never again repeat this war.Trump & his Jewish handlers have destroyed the GAE (Global American Empire).
>>540370839No one is going to help globohomo jews or cares to anon
>>540366567No I noticed this too. People forget in his first term he fucked with Iran and killed a high ranking general and in response Iran launched a missile miles away from a US military base and that was "retaliation" and it was over. All fake and gay
>>540365675It was always just the cheapest option, never the only option.Itan destroyed that.You people are fucking dumb
It only leads to shitskin countries. We didn’t use it before the war and we have no reason to use it after. It was hilariously used as a system of leverage by them only for challenge, because we literally never even looked at or thought of it previously. The only reason Trump even focused on it at all is we have Saudi assets they were holding hostage there. Imagine if I claimed that me attacking a random person on the street was a victory against the government, that is the equivalent of what Iran does with the Strait.
>>54036553380 year old pedo dementia patient Trump and Fox News correspondent Pete didn't even have a concept of a plan for Iran. They truly believed Iran was going to be like Venezuela because they are retarded as fuck.
>>540367944this. lmao.
>>540365533well before the war the strait was open and we had no reason to go around it. then we lost the war and now we need to pretend the plan was always to go around the strait
>>540365434This is not possible, there is no feasible way to replace it for the rest of Asia. >>540365533There was no planning going into this, Trump and Hegseth have room temperature IQ
>>540365434Trump and Scott empty a lot of pipes, they know what they're talking about.
>>540365434>translation>iran wants to profit from the strait and we can profit from them profiting from it
>>540366092>he doesnt know why the Syria civil war was started
>>540365434lol, now its just a matter of sorting out reparations and handing over a large chunk of americas population to iran, as slaves, as compensation and we'll be done here.20-30% of americans population (mostly females, 80% percentage of the males transferred will be castrated, only the children that will be raised as janissaries will be spared)several trillion dollars in raw resources, and a couple of US states, (alaska and hawaii, plus a few more)and this war will be over, seeing how america was the aggressor in this unjustified war.pleasure doing business with you
>>540366567>I CANT ACCEPT REALITY!!!!!Ok cool. Do what you gotta do. Your reality remains unchanged.
>>540366278God i hate canadians so fucking much.We should invade, kill you all, and recolonize the remains of your dogshit country.
>>540370698>Or do you do what the international business community has always done and say"Fuck them" iran is not the only country with bombs missiles etc etc. I think if they start trying to hold other nations hostae like that, they are oing to find themselves in a hot war, they already are. And as it stands, one of the few things holdin back their enemies is the bombing of irans infrastructure. I think that attitude will end quickly if Iran attacks infrastructure first. Just ask the russians and the ukranians.So go ahead. blow up some more pipelines in SA. pretty soon there will be no reason not to turn the power off in Iran.military planning that assumes your enemy is going to do nothing is not "planning" ... its a fantasy.just threatening the strait has landed Iran in a hot war. and its likely going to get alot hotter after the midterms, whether Trump wins or losses, after November, there is nothing to stop him from going balls deep in Irans ass.
>>540366567>>540370993Americans being less able to afford shit is very real. Americans voting Trump to stop the fucking wars is very real. The anger is justified, and Jews' involvement in this war (along with the war itself) are the focus of this public anger whether or not it is just simple "market manipulation."
>>540366436>how will china survive under this plan?Thats the neat part!
>>540367944miggers will get their day of the rope
>>540366679All part of fucking china so they cant invade Taiwan and destroy the semiconductor industry.Most of the point of this shit has been to get them to deplete their SPR.
>>540369618>Most of them are zogbots who want us dead anywayThe only ones that don't are white with white families they care about that know for a fact that an anti white society wouldn't be good for their white children. They've already got largely purged though from the military. The white hatred has openly skyrocketed so much in recent years that even normgroids are seeing it. They're no longer fighting for >peace>love>sex>drugs>rock and rollThey're fighting for the open genocide of founding stock American burgers that built this nation from scratch. >sacrifice 600,000 white men in the civil war >sacrifice millions for the world wars>sacrifice decades of prosperity for gibs>RAYCIST CRACKERS DINDU NUFFIN FOR USShoot them. Shoot them now please.
>>540366708>if only there were some way to move goods across land
>>540371099>t. Gay sex obsessed faggot You fucking globohomo degenerate weirdos always reveal yourselves, because you immediately think about nothing but sodomy
>>540366782They dont ship fertilizer dumbass, its the gas from the wells that is used as a chemical precursor, and yes, that will be shipped through pipes.Fucking retard.
>>540365434US is going to lay countermines in the sea to prevent Iran from shipping and receiving.
>>540370846this.the world will respond, and it wont work out the way the Iranians think its oin too. they are only going to make themsevles irrelevant. every day that passes, more oil production moves away from the gulf. at 70$+ a barrel, oil production becomes viable in alot of new sources, and once the infrastructure is built, thats it ... its online and producing.every day that passes, the strait becomes less and less important. and the only way to compensate in the future, is for gulf states to INCREASE production, and force the price back down ....
>>540371197>t. Globohomo jew They’re on the other side of the world. I don’t think we have much to be worried about. A certain shit sandbox in that neighborhood probably does though. Not our problem!
>>540365533How would they make money off that?
>>540371257>after November, there is nothing to stop him from going balls deep in Irans ass.You're delusional. If he could do it he already would have. Or do you think failing miserably and being a complete laughing stock bodes well for the midterms?
>>540370650What makes you think iran can hit them?
>>540371460Whatever the start of this debacle was, this is where I think US strategy has settled: force conditions that drive China to use its reserves while making production in the Americas increasingly viable.
>>540370887No, supporting an enemy nation killing American soldiers makes you a traitor.Back when we were a real country, you would have been put up against the nearest wall and shot.
>>540370592Ah so it's gonna take 30 years for them to become operational.And you bet not every part will be underground, or at least closer to the surface because of bedrock close to it.Nevermind that the water-table (even in the desert) also dictates what you can or can not put underground. It will destroy your pipes otherwise.At some point some part of it will remain above ground, likely most of it, the only underground part leading through the mountains (and even that will be a giant challenge). But thinking you can put hundreds of miles of pipeline underground and quickly is fucking delusional. Look at how "The Line" went. They only managed a few miles of digging up a foundation before giving up (25 miles I think).
>>540370967And?
>>540367912>Mostly because China started using their own reserve instead of buyingYeah China basically controls the price of oil now. Their reserves are undeclared but the tanks which have an adjustable roof can be seen from space and before the war their reserves were estimated at 1.4 billion barrels.
>>540371460>Most of the point of this shit has been to get them to deplete their SPR.China has an SPR of 1.5 billion barrels and produces 4.4 million barrels a day. I think they'll be fine. The US on the other hand...
US hit the bottom. This is beyond pathetic.
>>540370988>Trump & his Jewish handlers have destroyed the GAE (Global American Empire).kekno, what they did was destroy the hegemony on global oil supplies enjoyed by Saudis since 1970s and OPEC. there was really no stopping it anyways. oil was always bound for 70$+ a barrel, it was only a matter of time.plaes like venzuala, brazil, argentina, ghana, south china sea, indoneasia .... once they come online, they are never going off, and the gulf petro states will never be able to control the price anymore. they'd have to pump the shit out of thier own oil to force prices back down, blowing through thier reserves in 40 years.it was bound to happen sooner or later.
>>540371714Yep.Securing the ME would be nice, but destroying it has always been a viable option.That fucks over europe pretty hard, but they aren't exactly our friends lately and it fucks over china harder.Everything we do geopolitically is to hurt china.Meanwhile, europeans keep trying to ally with china.So fuck em, they burn too.Fucking communists
>>540371763I am not gonna sit and listen to a fucking German try to lecture me about pipelines.You have no fucking idea what youre talking about.Go home Mehmet
>>540370459> So what are you saying.He's saying that any retarded nigger who doesn't realise that Iranians can blow up the Arabs' wells with toy drones (their wells are all hugging the Persian Gulf) is not understanding that pipelines do jackshit for Arabs.Saudis / other Arabs build nothing in their home countries, American companies are responsible of their infra. And Arabs understand that the pipelines will be at the mercy of Iranians, even if they skip the toll collection.And now that Iranians are going to extend the toll to all commercial cargos entering Persian Gulf, the Arabs will be paying a dear toll sum even if they route their oil exports to pipelines.Saudis are the only one who have a possibility to skip the toll, but the toll will be cheaper than logistic trucks driving from their west to east to feed their Shia population living by the Persian Gulf.If they don't make food cheap for their oil workers & Shias in the east, all hell breaks lose in KSA, and the stability of the country will be in danger.
>>540371819Moron
>>540366312>Hormussy
>>540366562Kek, madlad.
>>540371864>disruption of iran's financingIran has its own currency. It just creates its own financing like any other monetary sovereign. It can buy anything that is 1) for sale 2) priced in its own currency.So it is really just a matter of whether various things that they need for various processes can be produced internally with internal raw materials. For those things that can't, they use primarily oil to acquire foreign currency reserves.
>>540371460China gets oil from the Saudis and they don't care if they have to go through Hormuz or into the Red Sea because China is friendly with both Iran and the Houthis and their tankers have free passage.
>>540365434Looks really scientific to me.
>lol
>>540365434>the strait is going to be irrelevant in two yearsSurely this makes any sense and is totally possible
>>540372166Please for the love of God tell me that titcow has a cock.
>>540365434>>540365580Can you even afford it?
>>540370592And you think Iran is going to allow the construction of that pipe, and that the arabs are going to accept that the pipe goes through Israel after everything that happened, and you think that can be done in just two years when we are near economical world collapse?
>>540365434>2 more yearsLmao
>>540372166FUCKING SOURCE
>>540371989>...>I WON'T LISTEN TO YOU LECTURING ABOUT ENGINEERING GERMAN MAN I KNOW IT WILL WORK BECAUSE MY GOD SAID SO
>>540371714>Whatever the start of this debacle was, this is where I think US strategy has settled: force conditions that drive China to use its reserves while making production in the Americas increasingly viable.this guy gets it. the permian basin, eagle ford ... the texas oil companies are goin WILD right now, openin weell after well as fast as they can. the venezualns have one from 100k BPD to 600k bpd in just four months, canada is expanding.brazil, argentina, ... they are all drillin as fast as they can. at 70$ a barrel .... HUGE reserves all over the world become viable, and thats exactly what trump wants. it ends the gulf states power ... not just Irans, but saudis, iraq.yeah they still have cheap oil, but they cant keep up. and once that infrastructure is built, once those wells are pumping, it wont matter. the big cost is done. the investment is made.the american oil companies have had thier most profitable quarter in decades. they are raking in the cash.
>>540371484They're fighting for the open genocide of founding stock American burgers that built this nation from scratch.>sacrifice 600,000 white men in the civil war>sacrifice millions for the world wars>sacrifice decades of prosperity for gibs>RAYCIST CRACKERS DINDU NUFFIN FOR USYep. Nobody is doing it anymore, it’s all evil and hyper gay and retarded. Worse yet, it’s all always for worthless replacements who just hate us anyway. Fuck that shit, retard shitskins can go do it
>>540371556>sulfur>urea>DAP>ammoniaThis is the fertilizer shipped from the Persian gulf past the strait of Hormuz. The infrastructure to make all this is already in place in the gulf and it will take years to get the gas pipelines up and running and at least a decades to get the fertilizer plants up and running elsewhere. There is no out here that doesn't include a lasting peace in the region among all parties.
The fag is just delusional. Pipeline buildouts will make the strait less important than it was, but it will never irrelevant. Countries will always want to or need to ship through the strait and even if that’s a minority of supply that’s enough to cause severe price shocks.
>>540371674They don't have to hit the pipes, they can hit the pumping stations.
>>540371763what if they build them above ground .... what is Iran going to do ... attack thier neighbours infrastructure... did you not read my post above.I geuss your assuming that after Iran commits acts of war against its neighbours, there is just fuck all anyone is goin to do about it.Is this your fantasy?
>>540371746> Back when we were a real countrythose israelis you love so much who aren’t even Americans and are evil as fuck were the ones who insisted we become an economic opportunity zone.
>>540372417>the american oil companies have had thier most profitable quarter in decades. they are raking in the cash.of our backs. in a capitalist economy, every private household is a net energy importer. it's not "our" oil.so the for same reasons that they are trying to curb gulf state power or economic leverage or whatever, they are also restricting fuel efficient vehicles and making EVs more expensive by eliminating the federal rebate. not all of us are so deluded where we pretend the material gains of private capitalists are wins for the rest of us.
>>540372606>they are also restricting fuel efficient vehicles and making EVs more expensive by eliminating the federal rebate.the federal rebate comes out of the taxpayers pocket retardlol. lmao at your stupidity
>>540365434Any ask where the pipelines are going to be? I nose.
>>540371930> Meanwhile, europeans keep trying to ally with china.>So fuck em, they burn too.>t. Evil ethnic European hating shitskin globohomo Nobody likes you
>>540372417> the permian basin, eagle ford ... the texas oil companies are goin WILD They are going wild, because the easiest accessible shale has been used now, and they need to find more such wells.> venezualns have one from 100k BPD to 600k bpd in just four monthsThat's only be the US removed sanctions over supplying the necessary tech parts to Venezuelan oil wells - the drastic production loss under the previous Chavismos is all due to not having access to tech components of US oil companies. > brazil, argentina, ... they are all drillin as fast as they canMost of Brazil's oil is underwater & expensive, no idea how far Argentinians are with their shale production but in their baby shoes still> HUGE reserves all over the world become viableOnly if the countries actually put the reserves into action, which is not a finger snap project, and requires a lot of money, whether it's American, Russian, domestic or Chinese.
>>540372606>globohomo jew communism bullshit Just go ahead and fuck right off tranny
>>540365434>zoomers hate him! destroy the American empire with one simple trick!
>>540372015>He's saying that any retarded nigger who doesn't realise that Iranians can blow up the Arabs' wells with toy dronesSo in this scenario where Iran attacks its neighbours and destroys thier infrastructure, exactly what is it that stops the saudis and the iraqis, and the other gulf states, from blowing up the iranians infrastructure.What would then stop say them from blowing up Iranian power plants, dams, bridges etc. like I said earlier ... "A military plan, which assumes your enemies will do nothing, is not a PLAN .... its a fantasy!"And no one has explained this to me.So I ask again ... "What is it, and be specific, that prevents these people who Iran is goin to attack, from attacking back, from counter attacking."You understand that irans enemies will attempt to counter attack .... right.
>>540372654>the federal rebate comes out of the taxpayers pocket retardNo, it doesn't. The federal government creates money. It never needs to borrow it and it sure as shit does not need to collect it from a pissant like you before it has money to spend. It's not your fucking signature on a dollar bill, is it, yokel?Taxation's primary role is to curb inflation and to drive the money (give the population a reason to need/acquire the money in the first place). Its secondary role is in shaping policy outcomes.Fucking retard yokel.
another wumao/turdist fanfiction thread. yes little bugman the US "empire" will collapse in two more weeks, then people will finally respect the Chinese hive!
>>540372122>Iran has its own currency.you mean the pratically worthless paper dollars issued by Iran... the RIAL ....one canadian dollar buys 990,000 Rialsits a fucking meme currency, complete with trillion dollar banknotes
>>540372907 Cause Iran is sanctioned and Mawrica is already trying its best to destroy their economy. Wtf is the point of them having oil if they cant even sell it retard? Iran wants to use the hormuzzy as a leverage. Take the sanctions off or everyone will suffer essentially is what theyre saying.
>>540372907>exactly what is it that stops the saudis and the iraqis, and the other gulf states, from blowing up the iranians infrastructureThe knowledge that if Iran hits their desalination plants their countries cease to exist. Iran is the least reliant on desalination plants in the entire middle east. Less reliant than Israel that would not have enough water if theirs get destroyed.
>>540365434>WE WON WE WON>ffw 5 months...>th-th-that body of water is dumb and irrevelant..!Holy fuck this somehow keeps getting more and more embarassing to watch. No wonder their soldiers have been popping their brain matter out lately.
>>540373062Iran also has toman which is worth much more
>>540372349A Germoid dabbed super hard on his hapa/quapa famiry so he seethes about all Germoids for breathing also pic related.
>>540373062It works exactly how my post laid it out. Exactly how my post laid it out. It can be as worthless as the day is long -- but if some process can be handled internally with internal production facilities and internal raw materials, then they can afford it. For everything else, they have oil. How that shakes out depends on their own internal production capacity and foreign demand for their oil.
>>540373070Iran would suffer if its infrastructure would be destroyed but gcc countries would cease to exist if Iran were to do the same to them
>>540372907> what is it that stops the saudis and the iraqis, and the other gulf states, from blowing up the iranians infrastructureThey have no proper armies, as this war has demonstrated. Even if they engage in similar drone warfare, Iranians are already far ahead. And when everyone has their oil wells & infra blown up, Iranians are able to demonstrate control over their population - Arabs will not be able to do any of that, they have barely functioning police force or militaries. They will descend into a complete anarchy, which will be the end of royal houses & birth of Al-Qaedda controlled Gulf Region.
>>540366459And I think the US would lose
>>540373062I doubt you could even exchange it if you wanted, jews just make up whatever random numbers about their enemies that they want on their jewish websites, but in reality 1 = 1 rial and it's not like you're allowed to trade with them anyways
>>540370839It would take more than that to take down israel with America backing them
>>540373185Suffering means you survive. Having no clean drinking water means your entire population dies of thirst in three days. Most of the gulf states are not natural countries and can't exist without desalination and food imports.
>>540371070Pipeline through Oman
>>540372907We understand you’re a childish pajeet. None of those dogshit Arabic countries have militaries, anon. Even if they do it’s joke shit. None of them are diamonds hard dick mother fuckers like the Persians are. The U.S. can’t even do much to Iranian shit at this point, and were the ones who supply those gulf Arabs with their military stuff mostly anyway. The Saudis were so dog shit, they couldn’t even challenge the Houthis in Yemen in any real way from 2015 onwards. You pajeets think about the world and reality in retarded fairy tales just like jews, because stupid fucking tales and epics are the entire basis of your cultural systems. It’s why warrior cultures are always dominating cultures like yours. Who the fuck do you think it was that conquered the Kingdom of Jerusalem over 1,000 years ago? Sunni fucking Semitic dogshit Arabs? It was the Shia and Persians mostly. Who rode into India with their dicks swinging, Sunni Arabs? It was the fucking Shia Muslims as always. They appear to be the only ones in the Islamic world who can get anything done.
>>540365434Qatar, Koweït, Irak, UAE will enver sell their oil through Saudi Arabia
>>540365533>Rump and Hegseethe>planningJej
>>540373409Yeah that point hasn't been brought up yet. All these Arab mafia clans hate each other.
>>540373409It's cheaper to pay the tolls than sell your nation's dignity to another Arab country - that's the iron rule of the Gulf region.
>>540372779>because the easiest accessible shale has been used now, and they need to find more such wells.they are finding them, every day>That's only be the US removed sanctions over supplying the necessary techdoesnt matter WHY ... all that matters is the production is comin online to replace gulf oil. the world is slowly adapting to the new normal, and every day that occurs, Iran losses power, the strait losses relevance. Im not saying the strait wont always be important, but it losses its power with each day it is closed.>Most of Brazil's oil is underwater & expensive, no idea how far Argentinians are with their shale production but in their baby shoes still.Sure, but at 70$+ barrel, its now viable,alon with many other oil projects around the world, and the big companies NEED somewhere to invest all the big profits they are making, and right now, they sure as hell arent investing in Gulf states.>>540372779>which is not a finger snap project, and requires a lot of money,I agree .... but they are makin that money right now ... and they arent investing it into the Gulf. They are drillin like mad all over texas, and the shale fields, drillin in arentina and brazil, openin up venezela .... etc etc etc .... ANYWHERE BUT THE GULF.
>>540370993>Iran launched a missile miles away from a US military base and that was "retaliation"and shot down the plane with the guy in who planned it
>>540373700> all that matters is the production is comin online to replace gulf oil.That Venezuelan tar is not going to replace any of the Gulf oil> the world is slowly adapting to the new normal, and every day that occurs, Iran losses power, the strait losses relevanceThe only reality that follows from this is dirty cheap plastic gadgets & cheap as shit flight for the whole of third world to fly to Canada / US for tourist visit & overstay their visas.Some petty power politics over oil weight tossing have died already thanks to realisation of nuclear power's importance, electrification of cars, electrified home heating & solar panels.> ANYWHERE BUT THE GULFThat matters fuck all, because it means the OPEC only gets bigger - and even if there would be entities willing to stay out of the quotas, the rest can still stick to their price levels, because these newbies entering the game still need 30-50 years to get their production to be up in the levels of neglecting anything the modern OPEC does.Remember to welcome all those Gulf Arabs, who will move to North America after economic contraction in the Gulf regions.
>>540373386oh i see. You seem to think that western countries are simply goin to let the Iranian terrorize the gulf states and gain control of that oil.I agree, the saudis are dogshit .... like every other fuckin arab army.how many american cities have the Iranians destroyed so farhow many american warships have they sankhow many fighters have they shot downyeah the iranians are experts at attackin unarmed sailors, raping kids and snatchin purses from little old ladiesbut please, dont tell me about "muslim warrior culture" ... when for 60 years not a single muslim army has made an appearance on the battlefield ... terror attacks, geurilla war, blowing yourselves up ... thats all you can manage. raping kids ffs ... thats your "army"as for the streetshitter comment, the only shitskin in this conversation is you, you filthy little muzzrat pigfucker
>>540373700This is the correct understanding
>>540374266> as for the streetshitter comment, the only shitskin in this conversation is you, you filthy little muzzrat pigfuckerIt must be painfully embarrassing to be a pajeet. I’m sorry anon
>>540374266>You seem to think that western countries are simply goin to let the Iranian terrorize the gulf states and gain control of that oilSo far the west hasn't been able to prevent it. Thats why this mess exists in the first place.
>>540374153>That Venezuelan tar is not going to replace any of the Gulf oilit already is>Remember to welcome all those Gulf Arabs, who will move to North America after economic contraction in the Gulf regions.it must be nice to live in this bizzare fantasy world.
Two weeks? Two years ! TWO FUCKING YEARS
>>540374493> the Gen X geriatric really believes the hordes of third world won't take advantage of dirty cheap flights to escape to North AmericaWhat a legacy you'll be leaving for your grandchildren, lmao.
>>540374466That’s my point. He’s a pajeet arguing like a woman. It doesn’t matter whether the west likes it or not, we do not possess the real world capacity and will to re-exert control over that strait. The Iranians sit right next to it. They’re reminding the world why it’s called the Persian Gulf in the first place.
>>540374640>nooo think about the migrants We get those regardless what the hell kind of argument is this? The way the world was set up economically was already conducive to globalism and the movement of people like that. Now it will be much less so. Pajeets are gonna have to stay in Bihar for the hunger games.
>>540374466>So far the west hasn't been able to prevent it.Does it seem like Iran is in control?Seems to me as though, so far, the Iranians havent been able to push the needle very far. What have they accomplished? How many Americans have they killed? How many ships have they sank?by what metric, and be specific, is Iran in control of the strait. The shipping is still passin through, reatly diminished, thats true, i will rant you that, and at considerable cost.but other then that, how is Iran "winning" here. they cant ship thier own oil either, adn are far more dependent on it.but even if the other Gulf states collapsed ... why would i care? I dont care how many muzzrats or kikes die. If Iran attacked israels desalination plants tomorow, I would cheer, and when Israel attacks back, I cheer even more.No of this hurts me. Canadian oil companies are making huge money riht now. Alberta is going crazy with investment, despite our shit liberal government.the cost to the US of all this has been some bullets and beans. Iran is running out of missiles a whole lot faster then the US. their navy is reduced to some guys in a speedboat .... Is that what you call "winning"
>>540374493>it already isNo it isn't suitable for the same things. Its harder to refine into a fuel and the only fuel you can refine from it is the dirtiest of dirty diesels. Not a single barrel of the stuff will be refined into gasoline that can be used by regular personal motor vehicles. Most of it will go to other petrochemical uses. This stuff is basically a sludge that has to be thinned down with other oils so it can be pumped anywhere.
>>540375004Your post is irrelevant. Iran is in control and has escalation dominance. Unless something changes that allows the US to protect everyone from an Iranian retaliation attack that could destroy their countries then Iran remains in control.
>>540372417>the american oil companies have had thier most profitable quarter in decades. they are raking in the cash.Bro thinks he's on the team.
>>540375004> Does it seem like Iran is in control?Is the Strait open to anybody who refuses to pay Iran's tolls? The answer is no.> How many Americans have they killed?Completely irrelevant when Iran runs the show.> they cant ship thier own oil eitherThey can, they have & Chinese will keep them float as long as is needed with cheap loans.> even if the other Gulf states collapsed ... why would i care?This is where you geriatric Gen Xers don't further than your fat belly - those Gulf refugees will be invited to move into Canada to fulfil your retarded 100 million Canadians goal.You need those consumers & tax cattle to pay our & your kids' pensions, and Canada as the country of abusable naïve dogs of people will do anything to avoid the inconvenience of needing to cut entitlements.
>>540365434>because the Iranians have usedYOU NIGGERS STARTED THE FUCKING WAR BY TRYING TO BOMB THEM INTO THE STONEAGE!!!
>>540365434Who's gonna build it and live?
>>540371674The Pipelines? I dont think they can. But the ships and Stations building them.
>>540375017>This stuff is basically a sludge that has to be thinned down with other oils so it can be pumped anywhere. Im not saying gulf oil isnt good for gas rpoduction, it certianly is, and its easier to refine.on the other hand, you cant really get coke and ashphalt from light crudes, or the very heavy bunker fuels. and you get plenty of gas and deisal fuels from tar sands. we are refinin it everyday in Canada. its more expensive, thats true.
>>540365434lol, jew empire cucked out. if it becomes just body of water then jews and their kikes will have no access to shipping routes at all
>>540365434>literal who on twitterScott's a faggot treasury secretary, what control does he think he has? All Trump needs to do is carpet bomb the entire shoreline of Iran, level their ports to limit threat vectors, accept the collateral damage in favor of killing targets firing missiles. You don't win a missile war by matching incoming fire, you kill the fucking source. After Iran we should go for broke and take Israel for Christians, kill every jew and muslim on the land.
UKR/RUS was one level of schizophrenia for the Euros, but this one demonstrates that Retardation at its highest level belongs to North America.>sorry
>>540375591I wasn't talking about Canadian tar sands. I was talking about Venezuelan oil which is like a sludge that has to be thinned down if you want to pump it.
>>540375264>Unless something changes that allows the US to protect everyone from an Iranian retaliation attack that could destroy their countries then Iran remains in control.What exactly has protected the Iranians so far from attack by US, cause it seems to me, maybe Im wrong, but hasnt the US been bombing Iran for last few months.how many bombs has Iran landed on the US?>>540375358>Bro thinks he's on the team.yeah, i own stock in canadian oil companies, i get dividends. the best Ive ever seen so far>>540375384>those Gulf refugees will be invited to move into Canadanot by me, and otherwise, i dont have any control over that anyways. besides, id probably rather have arabs over jeets anyways, even chinks are better then jeets. personally though, as a white man, if I had to be replaced, HAD TO mind you, hypothetical ... I think Id prefer spics, at least they are sort of white, and the part that isnt is native to this continent. but thats not going to happen. Canada has kind of maxxed out already. Most people dont understadn that though Canada is a large country, its largely also uninhabitable. Even our most southern cities are 20 below zero four months a year. Its an artic country.>>540375920Canadian tar sands and venezualan tar sands are pretty much the same.
>>540365434Holy fucking cope kek
>>540367938Nice flag, (((anon))).I really wish you poo faggots would go sell your wares elsewhere. The internet is huge, and most of it sucks. Plenty of opportunity for you to fit in. But of course, you're here for a reason.
>>540368307>remember>father of the spike prionsIt's getting easier and easier to forget.
>>540371989>>540373148Oy vey, you two really have no idea how anything works - besides shilling, shitposting and earning a few shekels, right?
>>540371045The scripture never said that the anti-christ was smart. Trump is as dumb as a bag of rocks.
>>540370896Obligatory. Also, Fuck you.
>>540370988Obligatory as well. As well as Fuck you too.
>>540365434Pretty sure that's the opposite of surrendering.
>>540365434A few underground pipelines are a lot more cost effective to destroy than hundreds of boats.
Guys, it doesn’t even matter if it will work or not. If it’s cope or not. The fact that the Treasury Secretary is saying this is just crazy. He’s admitting they can’t open the strait after everything and acting like building pipelines over the next few years is a comparable win. It’s not. America has been militarily defeated, arguably in the first week but let’s be fair and say over six months. This had never ever happened before. This is only the beginning. If they can’t deter Iran they can’t deter many other players including the gulf states as a unified Bloc if they deepen their ties with Pakistan and Turkey. Who will these pipelines serve then? Let’s not even talk about Asia and Europe. If America can’t deter Iranian aggression it certainly can’t deter Russia or China. They don’t even have to fight, the loss of aura will be enough for all of the resource rich regions to turn coat on the US (those who haven’t already). America is done guys. No memes this time. These demented old fools and sycophants have brought something great to its knees. Decades of grand strategy, billions of hours of work at the state department, thousands of American lives and millions of foreign lives. All wasted now. The American project has been derailed and it looks permanent. My condolences unironically. Get the fuck out before the hyperinflation and supply shocks kick in. Realistically it will take time so get out before the markets react. May be worse than the fall of the USSR considering the racial element. Godspeed bros.
>>540367344>>540369977My nigger are you both retarded? What does the rest of the world have to gain by giving the keys to the wheelhouse on global energy to Iran?
>>540365434
>>540372858Sexy AF.Thanks anon. I can't wait to see the videos of American punks busting their heads against the Iranian rock.
>>540377967America did this by starting this war! Everyone knew how retarded it was and Trump still did it because the Jews wanted him to. Well we’re all going to suffer now, especially you guys when you realise your already declining standard of life is incompatible with isolationism.
>>540373062Now do the German mark from after WW1 to the end of WW2.
>>540377917Yo fucking dumb ass nigger have you actually stopped to look at a map? Iran is an unique geographical position, its surrounded by simps and trapped behind a fortress of mountains with advance anti air capabilities beyond their current technological threshold because they're being armed by China, an entity which wouldn't even exist had we not given them our entire manufacturing economy. This would happen to anybody who would be in a similar position, they can defeat an Iran that pushes out but not an Iran that hides within itself like some kind of brownoid turtle.
>>540365533Based"We're going to invent shit using AI so we won't need their stinking oil anyway! Wahhh!"
>>540377820Because you're stupid
>you cant build pipelines because iran will blow them upthis is fucking retarded, if iran tried to start a war everytime someone built a pipeline they would be wiped out
>>540378109We are capable of producing our own oil, at the end of the day we can take care of ourselves energy wise at the expense of the OPEC dollar which is a rapidly failing system anyway. Where they pivot from this idk but everyone is going to feel it. Whole world cheered on Iran unaware that they will all be helping us eat the cost.
>>540378128> This would happen to anybody who would be in a similar positionYeah which is why every president before Trump told Bibi to fuck off. Just because you really want something doesn’t mean you always get it. They gambled the future of your country on Iran cucking out and had no backup plan. You guys need to clean house before it gets worse. >>540378265Anon I’m not even going to bother replying. It’s late. If you don’t know how dependant your country is on the outside world for resources and even your banking system then good luck.
>>540371746American soldiers aren't white either.
>>540378109>Well we’re all going to suffer now, especially you guysAs someone familiar with Ireland in the 80's and Ireland now, I don't think anyone is going to be more fucked than the Irish people when the American empire and every nation of supports with trade all goes down the drain.Last I checked all the small self sufficient farms are all but gone in Erie now, all the jobs tertiary manufacturing and the service industry, most of your trades people driven out by competing with the third world that was polish trades people. We're all in the same boat, but at least Canada and America are fucking huge. All you have to do is get out of the cities. Where do you run in Ireland?Donegal? Mayo? Sligo?Good luck with that.
>>540378109It's perfectly compatible but the issue is our fucking government refusing to stop sucking Israel's dick and refusing to reign in on corporate shareholders and telling them to invest in real factories and to take a pay cut to get workers
>>540378265or, get this, the rest of the world start to rely on solar and renewables so they don't have to worry about being constantly cut off from their supply because Americans elected a president who threw a tantrum
>>540378553Or just get nuclear energy
>>540378527israel has the tapesThey have the photosThey have everything.You will never ever betray them because of it.
>>540378591You need a constant supply of uranium to do that but sure, why not? They're in more stable areas of the world than where the zionist and neocons keep playing games.
>>540378466Yeah buckling up for a bumpy ride. Our government has been preparing for this since Trump signed his first tarrif executive order. Europe as a whole is transitioning from US markets and signing free trade deals across the world including South America. We’ll be hit hard but at least we have a backup plan. I think America will be made suffer for this shit for many many years even once Trump is long dead. >>540378527Well fucking make them stop dude I don’t know how anyone can be giving benefit of doubt to these bastards anymore. It’s so mask off. They’re running the country into a ditch and milking it dry at the last moment like Bibi said all those years ago.
>>540378265>we can take care of ourselves energy wisethis isnt about energy or oil, its about salvaging the petrodollar long enough to pivot to a new backing resource. I suspect crypto was considered and rejected due to security with ai and quantum computing, guessing water was or is being seriously considered given the active hoarding by the capitalists. When nixon took us off the gold standard he switched gold for oil, specifically mid east oil, now we have lost control of that oil and it is being sold in a currency other than the petrodollar, so we are screwed. thanks trump
>>540378265>Whole world cheered on IranWhite humans never cheer on Muslims but DESPISE them, so post documentation for your insane LIE!
>>540371288>ChinaChina is the only one who negotiated a deal for passage with both Iran and the Houthis. On top of having pipeline and land connection to Russia and Middle East. It's the Korean, Japan, Philippines who is gonna be fucked.
>>540365434oh look. another twitter thread.
>>540378718israel is a proxy of the US. maybe it feels like the tail wags the dog from time to time, but probably not really.
>>540378630They're on borrowed time, eventually America wont be around to protect Israel.>>540378718Unfortunately there's nothing we can do because nobody is willing to make the ultimate sacrifice, but I can assure you that it will collapse under its own weight by the middle of the century
>>540378965>America wont be around to protect IsraelFrom your mouth to God's ears
>>540365434This homosex MAGA faggot said they were supposed to open the strait last Wednesday or Thursday. What happened? Why is market going up? What kind of gay clown shit is this?
>>540365533they did prepare, that's why the US went into venezuela earlier this year
>>540367385A fleet is only useful if you can fuel it. China is heavily dependent on oil imports. If something does kick up the US navy will hit their pipelines and block maritime oil transports, it doesn't matter how much tonnage they can put out.
>>540370673>the terroristsAnd who exactly are you referring to here? I thought the terrorists were the people who launch unprovoked attacks and bomb girls' schools.
>>540378952Well that’s even worse lol>>540378965I hope you’re wrong. There has to be so many people at the state department that will come out of the wood work at the right time. I refuse to believe the place was fully gutted or that everyone lost heart that bad. What about DHS too? FBI? CIA? All these agencies which exist not to serve a president or admin but the United States. I just don’t get it how in the bowels of government there is no rebellion against suicide.
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>>540370592opps i dug up your pipeline nothing personal kid
>>540378965>collapse under its own weight by the middle of the centuryI give it 4 more years.The whole 'owning nothing and being happy' thing, like communism, can't exist unless it's in a void, and that void won't exist unless America is in it.
>>540378265>We are capable of producing our own oil, at the end of the day we can take care of ourselves energy wise at the expense of the OPEC dollar which is a rapidly failing system anyway. Where they pivot from this idk but everyone is going to feel it. Whole world cheered on Iran unaware that they will all be helping us eat the cost.BAHAHAHAHAHA
>>540366654yea you just guard it to the tune of $5trillion USD + tax + tip + round up for charity in debt. This is why you're not #1, baby.
>>540379313need colonize nigeria and libya
Don't worry, in the decades that will take Iran will just starve us all to death. Another win for blumpf amirite? We did it, reddit!
>>540379274The Soviet Union fellPeople said it would never fall
>>540378466Many won't like how it tastes, but they have to get used to eating nigger meat.
>>540370839Whatever removed the current regime from controlling the US I'm good with.
