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seems like Western propaganda exaggerated a lot of stuff. people were relative poor compared to capitalist countries i suppose but you had a guaranteed job, housing, education, and food as long as you followed the rules and didn't complain about the government.
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>>540390502
SAAR the western propaganda!!! Ignore the fucking fact that hundreds of thousands of East German citizens moved across the border into West Berlin and West Germany
Israel should've been against you niggers instead of those brown muslims, just should've keep bombing the shit out of every tankie faggot it would benefit humanity a LOT
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>>540390502
They didn't have food. They would form long lines for a can of seaweed. Poland still eats a carp for a christmas feast
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>>540390502
It was not that bad. But there was nothing to buy except basic food.
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>>540390502
The only correct answer is that it was different. Westerner would have trouble adapting there, just as a Soviet citizen would never be able to fully settle into Western country. People and cultures are not all the same, no matter how hard globalists try to claim otherwise. Even within USSR there were many different regions and cultures some were actually quite prosperous and independent while others are quite in line with what you might hear in the propaganda (mostly Siberia with all its secret cities and all that)
>>540390711
Germany is a special case. The main reason for people moving between them was family ties, and this wasn't one-sided. To talk about all the people who fled East Germany for West Germany and ignore the reverse flow is typical propaganda. The wall was built and guarded by both sides, there are no “good democratic guys who wanted everyone to be happy”
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>>540391401
Here's one thing people overlook about the Soviet Union, the lines at stores weren't because people had nothing to eat, but because the stores only sold heavily processed foods which were considered delicacies. The stores didn't sell the food that people eat on a daily basis. Vegetables, fruits, grains, and meat were all bought at the markets.
It's a different time and a different culture
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>>540395851
>USSR
>Markets

Maybe late 1990's when they just sterted doing capitalism?

I imagine the food lines were just to get government things in cans and sell it at a markup.
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>>540395706
>reverse flow
lolwut
you stupid nigger
the number was miniscule
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>>540390502
>as you followed the rules and didn't complain about the government.

Well, one thing to think about is that America has more people in jail than ever did time in the Gulags.
So per capita wise [kek] you are more likely to do time as an American than a Soviet citizen.
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>>540395936
Your propaganda has done everything it can to convince people that communism is when there's no money which is complete nonsense. Markets were legal and regulated throughout the history of the USSR except for a couple of years at the very beginning
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>>540395936
>get government things in cans and sell it at a markup
Also this was actually illegal. It existed, but it wasn't as widespread as you might think.
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>>540390502
>how bad was life in USSR really?
I'm pretty sure it was very random since the USSR enjoyed retarded mindgames, and it also had too much territory and citizens.
So you'd be better off trying to figure out how each segment of the USSR actually did in that era.
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>>540390502
It only seems good because the USSR's constituent states weren't literally fighting a war to the death with each other. Look at CHAZ for a microcosm of how it operated in the late 80s.
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>>540390502
You paid basically nothing for housing but you had to wait a decade for something okey. Then you got 2-3 room apartment. You spent most of your salary on food. Appliances were very expensive. In short your purchasing power wasn’t good. Health care was pretty good in the 60s and 70s but in the 80s everything went downhill fast
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>>540396518
Money wasn't so much a problem as the actual opportunity to buy something. Appliances, cars, and all that stuff were simply in very limited supply, and you couldn't pay more to get them, you just had to wait or resort to shady schemes, or look for acquaintances who can help. Planned economies simply have trouble producing luxury goods
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>>540396154
There was reforms than the Soviet Union collapsed because it actually did real capitalism like retards
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>>540390502
Do you know how to read? Yes? Well here.
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>>540397144
>Fictional book
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>>540390502
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