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I refuse to believe America is this fucked.

https://www.economist.com/business/2026/08/06/americas-lack-of-shipbuilding-prowess-is-a-problem-for-its-navy
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>>540397904
Did they put jeets in charge of building ships? Cause that's a bad idea yo.
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>>540397904
American and Euros lost their relevance and now their abilities degrade every year. Even Nigeria outpaced some European nations in terms of industrial production.
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>lack of shipbuilding prowess
>aircraft carriers do not need ramps
ummmm
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>>540397942
What a low iq take, name one nation where a bridge never collapsed.
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>>540397904
large scale ships seem to be sitting ducks in the era of suicide drone boats, submarine suicide drones, fpvs, and geran/shaheed lawn mower drones.
Probably gonna wanna build something small, extremely fast and maneuverable, and that can open it's deck and deploy a swarm of drones and other similar "new" tech. And that's about it.
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>>540397904
We commission South Korea to make our ships using parts we buy from China. Yeah, it really is that bad.
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>>540397904
>I refuse to believe
You best start believing anon
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>>540397904
Probably just some Jewish "we must not lose the race to China" bullshit to justify handing more contracts to the MIC. We need only as many ships as are scheduled to be built, but the more American military ships are made, the more Goyim can be sent to death in the upcoming Taiwan war, and the more Jews working for the MIC can collect paychecks.
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China be like
>heh yeah we totally can mog everyone
>but we will never do anything not because we’re too pussy, uhhh we’re just humble like that
China please do a 9/11 or stop talking so much shit
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America outsources all of its shipbuilding to South Korea. This is known.
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>>540397904
what is the 'big advantage'?

this isn't world war 2. ships are useless floating coffins in wartime. no invasion force is going to cross the pacific before some teenager sitting in an office in virginia blows it up with a drone he's piloting with an xbox controller

submarine capacity is all that matters, and we have plenty
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>>540397904
we are fucked bro. its over.
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>>540398155
Even army is useless meatshields, jets are useless floating metal scraps. Please start to disband everything like Anglos did.
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>>540398036
STFU subhuman, the toilet-users are talking

>>540398073
We do have some domestic shipyards that regularly receive contracts. This is about building more floating coffins in which Jewish wars murder Goyim.

Also, we have 2 carriers set to be built and named after Epstein-blackmailed Zio-dogs who sent Americans to die for Israel.
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>>540397904
Ask yourself: why would they ever admit all of this when they spend so much energy covering up lesser things? It’s a trick. Trump probably thinks he’s being clever.
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>>540397999
Why kikes need so many jeets?
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>>540397904
The USA isn't fucked. Ukraine is.
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>>540398213
Mutt you don't even know who your real father is. You should be thankful that I am giving (yous) for a subhuman like you.
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>>540398207
>Even army is useless meatshields, jets are useless floating metal scraps. Please start to disband everything like Anglos did.
I understand this is facetious, but we're talking about a peer conflict scenario. Whoever nukes first wins. A submarine can surface, destroy a dozen costal cities, and disappear. And we have 70 of them.
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>>540398213
I know, but the parts come from China. The rarer earth minerals we use to make our missiles also come from China. The parts we use to build our fighter jets also come from China. You would think since these are imperative to any war effort we might have secured supply chains and build all that stuff here and yet we don’t.
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>>540397904
Ask yourself where would you want to live: in Romaina, in China, in Ukraine or in the USA.
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>>540398155
>submarine capacity is all that matters, and we have plenty
You need Goyim to operate those subs, and sailors are already screaming to get the fuck out of the military as a result of this Iran fiasco. No real American is going to put their asses on the line taking orders from incompetent pedophiles.
>new recruits will always come in if they make the economy bad
More Americans will stay out and instead make plans to go to war against "American" Jews on American soil. Hegseth even TACO'd on his vaccine mandate reversal.
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>>540398380
>and yet we don’t
Why though
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>>540398268
Ask them, they own you.
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>>540398380
Not arguing with you, China has us by the balls. I'm only disagreeing that we should be ready to fight China and/or Russia. All these silly little cries to militarily compete with China are all coming from Jews who want to profit from the murder of Goyim. NOBODY is gonna go to war for this fucking country while Jews are in power.
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>>540397904
America and to a lesser extent NATO have been the top dogs since ww2. No other country except the USSR was really any threat to them. Since the fall in 1989-90 the US has been completely unchallenged. As with any monopoly, quality goes down simply because nothing was challenging America until now.

>BTFO by Iran
>Russia getting powerful
>China silently growing into an industrial juggernaut with 1 billion expendable Chinese

US still has domination of the Earth's seas and they do have a lot of technology. They're still extremely powerful.

They're just not invincible like they've always claimed to be, but anyone who's studied military history knows no country is ever truly invincible except maybe when going up against stone-age barbarians like native americans.
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>>540398433
>You need Goyim to operate those subs, and sailors are already screaming to get the fuck out of the military as a result of this Iran fiasco
I don't remember seeing any of those sort of problems with submarines. Just the giant floating coffin surface fleet. Which kind of proves my point. Chinks'll set their toilets on fire and sabotage their own ships, too, if they tell them they're crossing to attack the Americas. It's a death sentence.
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>>540398353
In a conflict scenario subs will definitely dominate but you can mass produce ships and repair them quickly. Subs take longer to make and take way longer to repair.
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>>540397904
More pro China anti American handiwork by the
McKinsey Consulting Group.
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>>540398670
Chinese are hardwired to survive in far worse conditions so I doubt they would do that.
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>>540398681
>you can mass produce ships and repair them quickly
kinda the entire point of coastal city destruction is blowing up shipyards so that shit can't happen

the new naval meta is small modular autonomous vessels that can be produced inland and easily transported to the coast for deployment
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>>540398767
Benifits of capitalism
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>>540398073
US Navy banned South Korea from being AEGIS certified. Only Australia and Japan can manufacture AEGIS certified ships.
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>>540397904
It's all shitty fishing boats used to sweep the seas clean, or shitty fishing boats turned into warships that crash into the Filipino Coast Guard
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daily reminder that a nuclear war is winnable
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>>540397904
No, and yes you are normal for being that way. Western chauvinism, which is a fairly recent meme, replaced akshual ethnic self awareness/pride and so vague 'winning' is necessary to keep the dream alive.
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One Child Policy will cause mass extinction in China:

Interesting article about Chinese surplus men in a Taiwanese newspaper: Recently Libertarian Times interviewed Madam Li Qingzhao of Xinyi Introductions in Taipei about facilitating Mainland Chinese men to meet older Taiwanese divorcees and widows:
>Due to the CCP's previous one child policy there are 20 million men on the Mainland that have no chance of ever marrying or having children.
>Mdm Li stated she has had good success matching up younger Mainland men with older Taiwanese women.
>Singledom goes against Han Chinese values and even though these Mainland men have limited skills with women the marriages often worked out ok.
>Mdm Li said she expected her business to greatly expand after reunification.
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>>540398937
>daily reminder that a nuclear war is winnable
This. I get so tired of retards who think otherwise.
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>>540398819
But you can do that with long range missiles too. I doubt subs can carry enough firepower to overwhelm them and if you are using a ssbn to launch nukes, it will be the end of the world and nothing else will really matter.
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>>540398955
I would absolutely love to masturbate in front of these ladies as a group!
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>>540398843
It has little to do with capitalism.
The McKinsey Consulting Group
is the hidden architect behind practically every important decision made world wide, in military, war strategies for nations at war, commerce and national and world economies, political messaging from Parties and candidates, advertising of products, and anything else you can imagine.
They claim that they are neutral party.
But in truth, they continuously undermine the United States, while at the same time, benefitting Communist China, and the third world, more generally.
Often, doing so using first world money.
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>>540399115
first strike capability is the entire point. when the launch comes from inside their own harbor, they're all dead before anyone knows what happened
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>>540399211
But capitalism allows such entities to exist and function freely. If such group existed in China, ccp would have banned it in no time and sent the entire management team in front of firing squad.
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>>540398115
they are mogging you in economic development, technology, infrastructure, governance, diplomacy, trade...
while China is taking over the world, amerigoyim are stabbing themselves, starting and losing another war and screaming about "trannies" eating their dog o algo
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>>540397942
Yard workers were normally crackheads and other people of ill repute when I was in. They used to cover up all the rapes and assaults by yard workers but that was back in 2010 so SURELY things have gotten better and not worse right?
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>>540397904
We outsourced all that shit because why should we do anything here. Just put everyone on welfare and print money as needed.
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>>540397904
China's military hardware has failed spectacularly in the Cambodian-Thai conflict in 2025, and they still haven't invaded Taiwan despite threatening to do so 10 years ago. America's hardware on the other hand has not failed, and still blows up the shit that it's aimed at. Both documented via video capture, both within the span of a year. The problem with America and the world is that America is kinda all humanity has. We are an incredibly weak species after WW2. Every strong nation became pacified and halted all production of self sufficiency, electing instead to rely on the US and Japan for technology and human advancement. Even rising "powers" today like China are nowhere near not even America's level, but would be defeated by most nations' WW2 era, as well as also relying on America/Japan for innovation.
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>>540397904
Rare smart OP with a spider sense.

What would suntzu say? Appear weak or strong? Be honest with enemy? Also kissinger had a sayong how russia and china are too afraid and need to be lulled into sense of strenght so they do the first move then crush em
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Ships are only needed for sand villager countries.
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>>540399641
Humanity would be better off without pedo loving psychopaths even if in preindustrial age. I would sign world without usa in a second.
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>>540398352
Have you raped a lizard yet today, behanchod?
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>>540397904
>Is this all a psyop?
Considering China has 2 military ships despite bragging about their military ship production rates for 8 years, yes. News about China's military is the national equivilent of
>two more weeks
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>>540397904
Blame the billionaire Jews, they don’t want to pay (you) to build ships. Has literally nothing to do with the Chinese. Every country is allowed to have shipyards.
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If we started building ships today, no one would get a shipbuilding job, because every company would be demanding 5-10 years of shipbuilding experience. No fresh out of college engineers allowed.
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>>540397904
Its true and is why Trump wants Korea to build 10 ships for the navy.
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>>540399743
No, mohammed was nowhere to be seen
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Just look at the reindustrializers to see what would happen if you
>tried
It doesn't really matter if anyone wants to fight you, the problem is a domestic one. And it extends across most of the Western countries. The presumption that everything will be fine at some point because we are who we are is quite stressed after decades of miseducation, misallocation, and all of the consequences that come from this.
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US is on par for military construction by tonnage
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>>540398380
REE can be mined and refined here
China just undercut priced with no environmental controls
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>>540399314
China uses the McKinsey Consulting Group. So does India. So does Israel. So does Russia. And everywhere else, world wide. The McKinsey Consulting Group is reaponsible for the recent rise of Dubai, for example. The McKinsey Consulting Group is who managed post-Soviet Russia into what it is, today.
And of course, the United States uses the McKinsey Consulting Group, to degrade itself from the inside, while benefitting adversarial nations.
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>>540397904
It's worse as you think, mostly because of US unions
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>>540397904
beans
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>>540397904
America's fucked. The difference in ship building capacity is even worse than America vs Japan in WW2, which was like 9:1. China builds more than twice as much tonnage as the rest of the world combined.
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>>540398213
>We do have some domestic shipyards that regularly receive contracts
Did they figure out if the faulty welds on submarines made at Newport News were because of sabotage or just plain incompetence?
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>>540398155
>Chinks'll set their toilets on fire and sabotage their own ships
Such projection. US sailors on your most modern aircraft carrier were just mutinying, plugging toilets and setting fire to the ship!

Took 30 hours to put out what was supposedly a "laundry fire", guess someone forgot to clean the lint trap. The USS Forrestal aircraft carrier fire (the one John McCain was part of) practically blew up the ship, killed 140 and injured another 160, and they got that fire under control in only 14 hours.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/06/04/politics/fire-gerald-ford-aircraft-carrier-video
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>>540399827
You'd H1B the entire workforce from Korea and Japan.
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>>540397904
Nope. Our largest naval port. The port that won WW2, WW1, and the Civil War- the Brooklyn Naval Yard is now a series of Jewish movie studios. I'm sure that was a great idea. Now the main ship builders is Newport Virginia is run by niggers making 17 an hour.
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>>540398057
Anon, in seawarfare where will the drones launch from? Oh a boat.
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>>540399425
no they aren't. they were a developing country that is already slowing down. developing countries have the advantage of being able to build new stuff while it's harder for already developed countries to replace old stuff. china's railway is a failure, their economy is slowing down significantly, everyone hates them, xi is constantly purging everyone in top positions. china is over. they can't make the transition to consumer society to take advantage of their economic position because the only advantage they ever had was currency manipulation and mass amounts of labor
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>>540399641
>America's hardware on the other hand has not failed
AA systems that can't even protect themselves from air threats.
>and still blows up the shit that it's aimed at
Schools full of little girls.

>China's military hardware has failed spectacularly in the Cambodian-Thai conflict in 2025
Cambodia is using equipment made in the 1950's.

You should look at the Pakistan-India conflict. Pakis operating modernized versions of the oldest domestic Chinese fighter shot down the latest European fighter. The J10s approached without radar, and used targeting data from a distant high altitude AWACS to engage the Rafaels over the horizon with long range air to air missiles. That's a serious capability, no more wishful thinking that the weapon systems are vaporware.
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>>540402503
Also we were using Chinese VT4 tanks against Cambodia and they performed alright. Certainly better than what Cambodia had.
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>>540397904
Yes, alot of it is psyop and fearmongering to get policies changed asap. Remember, Americans thought that Soviet Union is winning all the way until its collapse.
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>>540403370.

So the GOP is winning? Gotcha. I feel relieved.
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The finance sector destroyed Western industry and now the empire is done and dusted
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>>540397904
Whaaa hah hah hah. Yeah Bath Works forgot how to build a ship. The chinks cannot even build a ship after stealing our plans. Same a a bridge or a skyscraper. Tofu dregs materials, scam workmanship, bribes.
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>>540397904
you're next chink
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>>540397904
Why do lesser nations think the US can't just restart a shipbuilding industry when it becomes necessary? Unlike China that would need to keep stealing, the US has the technology all along and the population to back the whole economy. Even jews will start funding this if a war comes to threaten their shekels. The US is unironically a safe bastion for these kikes.
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>>540398103
It doesn't take half a brain to know how profitable wars are. Shut up about alliances and taking sides, shekel is the truth for the kikes.
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>>540398681
This is why jeets like you can't win wars. You still think a dimension lower like it's WWII. Ships and planes have their uses, but you still are too retarded and only know swarming and offering your fellow jeets to needlessly die every time.



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