How do you bring China to heel without going nuclear? What's your:>grand strategy?>battle plan?>first move?
>>540403566why would I?I like China.It is a model society.NationalSocialistAgainst Capital and Ultra WealthyModerate but conservativeModeratly XenophobicIt is a better more pragmatic version of the nazis.
It's so painfully obvious it's not worth any mention at all.
Israel is already trying to bring down China with mass migration.
>>540404554Because they're oriental, communist, and godless.
SAAR HOW DO WE BEAT CHINA ASK 4CHIN SAAR
>>540403566mass indian migration
>>540403566What if someone filled a rocket with ball bearings and threatened to end space exploration forever by launching it into orbit?
>>540404554this >>540405354>oriental, communist, and godless.jewish buzzwords
>>540405565Better than giving up.
>>540403566Everyone that have more than zero understanding of world knows that we only need to stop buying shit or make big tarifs in chinease products since they have close do zero domestic consumption (around 5%)
>>540403566Wrest control of the air and seas. They'll surrender or collapse eventually.
>>540403566I dont care what happens to that little chink island or a chink vs chink war, let them fight. That's literally not our problem.
>>540403566No point physically fighting such a big superpower. That would be very bad for both sides. I guess banning Chinese products. Or spreading intense BWC propaganda like they do with BBC.
>>540404554Lol China has the most billionaires. They love wealth as much as Jews.
>>540403566Flood them with indians
>>540405597>All we need is a great depression and we win In your own mind you're a genius don't you?
>>540405640>banning Chinese productsAnother super genius, they literally make fucking everything, they're the fabric of the world unless you can re industrialize a country capable of supplying the world fast enough, that won't happen They're trying to industrialize India, even say they're the next China, but Indians are filthy backwards retarded monkeys who will never civilize
>>540405664>Lol China has the most billionaires.why do you lie about easily disprovable things?
>>540403566Every single nuke. It's super effective on chinese tissue pape.
>>540403566Unironically communism is their weakness since it can totally remove them from the equation
>>540403566cut off their food supplyany nation with a fucking huge population AND a huge fuel/food import is deeply susceptible to blockade>b-b-but anon, some /pig/ger wumao thread handler told me that iran sank the nimitz with le heckin hyperwaffen drone!!which is why you cut them off at the source. they've already lost venezuela. they've got at best a trickle in supply from the middle east. the natural state of the han chinese man is that of cannibalism, they will be glad to return to that state
>>540403566Am I playing America? I have massive air superiority and naval superiority. I blockade them, mine the ports, I bomb the rail lines, maybe bomb the dams if I'm feeling nasty, and wait.Am I playing Russia? I have no choice but to resort to chemical and biological weapons if I'm gonna win, since nuclear is off the table and China outnumbers me so badly. I make borders regions into live action STALKER. Maybe try to use submarines to mine the harbours too. The air battle will be pretty evenly matched based on hardware, but my air force has a lot more combat experience to draw on, so I could try to bomb them too. Mostly I will depend on chemical and bio weapons though.As any other country it's probably a no go. Maybe Australia if they have enough money.
>>540403566Move all your industry back to your own nation instead of having China make everything for you.
>>540405584How so? Just adapt and enjoy life.
>>540405860>India being that high while most of their population lives worse than AfricansGrim, no wonder they're a shithole.
>>540405597They have a pretty big domestic market.
>>540406604>I have massive air superiorityJewSA couldn't even get air superiority over the Houthi's.>and naval superiorityLol.Lmao even.
>>540405622How? Can you operate near the South China Sea or will it have to be a distant blockade far from China's territory?
>>540403566Protip: Don't get into a land war with Asia as the attacking side. Plague, famine, and isolation kills the Chinese Dragon
>>540406934The Houthis have no air force. The US air force is by far the largest on earth. What are you talking about? And as for the idea that the Chinese navy can match the US navy, all I can say is do more research. They only had two aircraft carriers TRAIN together for the first time a couple years ago, let alone actually operate together. Think about it anon.
>>540403566>kiked chinks think blowing up a dam is enough to flood mainland china
>>540404554Yeah this.
>>540407018>What are you talking about?I'm talking about the fact that the US LOST its war against the houthi's, and FAILED to get air superiority.>The Houthis agreed to halt attacks on vessels in the Red Sea but emphasized that the ceasefire did not in "any way, shape, or form" apply to Israel.>In response to Israeli backlash, U.S. ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabee said that the United States does not require Israeli approval to reach a ceasefire deal, asserting that the United States will take action against threats to U.S. citizens and not necessarily Israel>Administration officials interviewed by The New York Times said that Trump agreed to the cease fire because the airstrikes were not achieving their objectives and the United States failed to achieve air superiority against the Houthis.They also FAILED to achieve air superiority against Iran, which is why they lost over half a billion dollars worth of aircraft in under 48 hours when they tried switching from stand-off munitions to JDAMs.
>>540407018>as for the idea that the Chinese navy can match the US navy,They don't need to, retard. They can destroy the jewsa navy from their coastlines.
>>540403566just do whatever worked in usa
>>540407106>airstrikes were not achieving their objectivesWell, obviously. That has never worked on guerrillas and probably never will, no matter how technologically advanced the aircraft get.>the United States failed to achieve air superiorityThat makes no sense. The Houthis have no air force. The airstrikes were conducted with impunity, the problem was not controlling the air, the problem was on the ground.>They also FAILED to achieve air superiority against IranIran's air force has not been a significant factor in this war at all, anon. Iran's strengths lie elsewhere.>>540407129>They can destroy the jewsa navy from their coastlines.They cannot. The US navy can strike China from further out than the range of those missiles, using aircraft carriers. Which the US navy has been coordinating in operations for over 80 years.
>>540406594>cut off their food supplyThey're a huge food producer and are on the continent, they can import food from Russia by land. I don't think you can starve them by cutting off beef and basedbeans.
>>540407129damn, you ruined bro's fantasy of le epic sea battles
>>540407237Nice strawman, asslicker.
>>540407203>That makes no sense. The Houthis have no air force.You clearly don't know what air superiority means.>The airstrikes were conducted with impunityThey very much were not. Since they failed to achieve air superiority and were constantly losing assets.>Iran's air forceAgain you clearly don't know what air superiority even is.Please kys.
>>540407258>asslicker>the aircraft carrier is the be-all end-all of warfare and US hegemony can't be broken
>>540407293>You clearly don't know what air superiority means.You seem to think it means having no air force at all.>constantly losing assetsOh? Which US aircraft were shot down by Houthis?>>540407316>more strawmanning
>>540407203>They cannot. The US navy can strike China from further out than the range of those missiles, using aircraft carriersChina's DF-17 anti-ship hypersonic missiles have a range of 1600-2500 km, depending on payload.The planes on those aircraft carriers have a combat range of about 1200km (f35 combat load).You clearly don't know wtf you're talking about.
>>540407367>China's DF-17 anti-ship hypersonic missiles have a range of 1600-2500 kmYou really believe that shit? Have they ever proven that?
>>540406796The world is too small.
>>540403566You can't, that ship has long sailed.Iran produces 32 million tonnes of steel per year and $7.5 billion worth of electronic components per year. China produces 1 billion tonnes of steel per year and $500 billion worth of electronic components per year. Since Iran fired a salvo of 625 missiles in the first week of war against the United States in 2026, it is reasonable to think that China could fire between 19,531 and 41,667 missiles. Every week. Forever.The best thing is to wait for their demographics crisis to happen and hope for societal unrest to unfold. Military wise they've become an invincible behemoth
>>540407329>Oh? Which US aircraft were shot down by Houthis?>https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2025/04/25/houthi-rebels-have-shot-down-7-us-reaper-drones-in-recent-weeks/you are completely out of your depth, asslicker. Sit down
>>540407388>But COPEyes, there have been about a dozen flights of them. Yes, those were tracked by other nations as well.You can make up all the bullshit in your head you want. Reality simply doesn't adhere to it.
>>540403566How the fuck does blowing up a dam down stream cause flooding in a mountain upstairs. What fucking magic level are we working with!?
>>540403566I pray to jeebus crimbus for more missiles to destroy dog and maddog o algogobless the huwhite america
>>540403566People keep asking how ww3, no one asks why ww3.
>>540403566First move in taking out China is taking out Israel.
>>540407367you are a fucking retard. China will follow the same playbook Iran played, scaled by a factor of 100. They'll unleash hundreds of thousands of ballistics missiles on mutt bases in Japan, Guam, the Philippines and Korea. Then these eastern vassal states will cry uncle and the war will end in no time with mutt power projection in Asia turned into ashes
>anglokike is daydreaming about war againJust your average Tuesday noon.
>>540407480because we need to end the world so jesus comes back, duhalso we gotta stop china from taking over chinese territory that even usa officially recognizes as part of china
>>540407421Oh, so... just drones then. Got it.>>540407450Sending a rocket flying 2500km is one thing, targeting ships at 2500km is quite another
>>540407540>They'll unleash hundreds of thousands of ballistics missiles on mutt basesIn reality they'd drop a nuke in the pacific, on top of the jewsa fleet. That would be enough by itself to end the war.But the context was specifically referring to a supposed "jewsa air and naval superiority", so I didn't look at realistic scenarios.
>>540407589no one will use nukes
>>540407567>Sending a rocket flying 2500kmSending a hypersonic maneuverable glide vehicle*And yes. You're right. It is 'one thing'. It's 'one thing' that the jewsa can't actually do, since theirs keep failing.
>>540407550Grand battle. War winning strategy.We nuke OUR FUCKING SELVES and in the confusion we claim victory. That is how we win.
>>540407480>no one asks whyUSA and China going to war is almost impossible, considering how much USA and China depend on each other. The idea of Russia and China going to war is pretty outlandish too. Just fun hypothetical scenarios.
>>540407609If the Chinese mainland is attacked, you bet your ass they're nuking the jewsa fleet in the pacific. It's a reasonably low-impact event (middle of the ocean, no civilian casualties) and establishes all the deterrence needed to prevent any further attacks on China (next one will hit Japan or Guam).
>>540407567>d-drones aren't aircraft, nobody cares about them, it's a small portion of the military expenditure and gdpyou are making it worse with each post
>>540407678>still strawmanningYou never learn. Many such cases. Sad.
>>540403566Drop leaflets throughout India and Africa saying China loves immigrants and has a generous welfare system
>>540405354Our own society is godless as well. Even our churches make a mockery of the Father
>>540407720>goalpost-moving asslicker tries to get out with buzzwordsyou are pathetic
>>540407659>It's a reasonably low-impact event (middle of the ocean, no civilian casualties) and establishes all the deterrence needed to prevent any further attacks on ChinaIf the US had a competent leader. They don't. They've got a senile narcissistic manchild in charge, he'd absolutely retaliate with nukes.
>>540407018>The US air force is by far the largest on earthHave you seen the size and capability of their air force? The Pakistan-India conflict proved their integrated weapon systems work, with distant AWACS providing targeting data for the fighters to shoot long range pl-15 missiles over the horizon and take out the latest European plane.Where are you even going to operate from? The whole first island chain at a minimum is in range of mass missile attacks from the mainland. Can't even defend bases in the Straight. F35 only has 600 mile operation range, you want to bring the carrier strike group that deep within even shore based anti shipping missile range?
>>540407832>They've got a senile narcissistic manchild in charge, he'd absolutely retaliate with nukes.Military won't let him.https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-tried-to-use-nuclear-codes-but-was-stopped-by-military-chief/ar-AA21nbUt
>>540405680Learn to speak English.
>>540403566the whole place is going to be a swarm of drones and other autonomous weapons
they are already cucked and brought to heelif they weren't they would have taken taiwainthey won't everroflmaozedong
>>540407616If they’re wunderwaffen was so fucking great they would have taken us on by now.
>>540407986Why? You're doing a great job destroying yourself already. They don't need to expend resources for it.
>>540403566Why do the jewish masters want us to go to war with them? What have they done to me? I do not get mugged in the street or attacked by random chinese men. They trade with us they buy our debit what exact reason is there for us to go to war?
>>540403566China is a developed country why not invade a nok developed country and fix that why go after china
>>540403566Send gen z in first then have boomers follw them with rifles so they don't retreat then millenials mine all the retreat areas
>>540403566Just spread that the mandate of heaven is lost and chinx will spend trillions on internal security covering it up to save face
>>540407018>And as for the idea that the Chinese navy can match the US navy, all I can say is do more researchThe US can't replace any losses. Can't even keep up with scheduled maintenance of the formidable but aging US Navy. The USN has historically been renowned for damage control (though maybe not so much these days, 30 hours to put out the "laundry fire" on the USS Gerald Ford recently), so lets say they miraculously save every single damaged ship, missiles, torpedoes, drones, whatever the hit the ship doesn't sink. You can't even repair them, so they're as good as sunk.
>>5404035661) Completely suspend non-white immigration indefinitely in the west.2) Liquidate every single person with a networth over $50 million dollars. No exceptions.3) Remove women's rights and prohibit them from working most jobs. Women who can prove they are intelligent and dedicated enough can still work any field they qualify for but they must have minimum 2 kids before the age of 30 to ensure their intelligence genes aren't wasted.4) All non-whites are expelled from the west, no exceptions, and any whites who can be proven to have race mixed are sterilized and forced into lifelong service to the government in whatever capacity they're needed. If they actually had kids with a non-white, their citizenship is revoked and they are deported. Yes, this includes white men and their little fish headed Asian girlfriends.5) National security is nationalized and no longer the province of private entities. The MIC is absorbed into the military. The military and war will no longer allowed to be a racket to make rich fucks richer.6) Re-industrialization and an overhaul of the education system to help put people into industries they're best suited for.7) To defeat China: now that the west is functioning again, wait until China collapses under its own social problems.Easy peasy.
>>540403566>kills millions of civiliansThis is a war crime and the civilized society will not be on your side if you do it.
>>540408243lol based. the jew hates this simple trick
>>540407329Dude, he's right, you don't understand what air superiority is. You don't need an air force to deny air superiority. Land based AA threats are enough. If US had air superiority over Iran they wouldn't be depleting stockpiles of valuable stand-off munitions, they'd be dropping gravity bombs with impunity. That was the whole selling point of the F35, they'd pay for themselves with the money saved on munitions, the stealth would let you use cost effective JDAMS .
>>540403566>How do you bring China to heel without going nuclear?Until the demographics of every single Western nation are brought back to what they were in 1964, not my problem
Just stop trading with china, pull out all western manufacturing and leave china to collapse on it's own.
>>540403566>How do you bring China to heel without going nuclear?Flood them with migrants
>>540407416Their annual installation of industrial robots has been more than the rest of the world combined for a decade. They surpassed Germany and Japan for robots-per-worker years ago, while having a lot more workers.Their car factories run in the dark, I suspect their military industries aren't being neglected.
>>540408497picrel in that post is from a US military textbook. It admits that fucking IRAQ is the most formidable air threat the US military has ever flown against. Illiterate Arabs operating S-75 AA systems designed in the 1950's! Same shit the Vietcong was using.Though Vietnam did shoot down 10,000 US aircraft. And Serbia shot down an F117 stealth plane with that same old shit. But Iraqi's couldn't even read the manual.That triumphant victory against Iraqi's is the template for US military doctrine and procurement. It all assumes SEAD will succeed and air superiority will be guaranteed.
>>540404554fpbp>>540405597>they have close do zero domestic consumption (around 5%)*40%
Literally do nothing. Beat them at their own game.
>>540403566goad indian armed forces as cannon fodders of chinese drones. there are more indian bodies to enlist as one trip drone meals than chinese drones china could assemble. make china focus on india.china get crippled, india get destroyed, the rest of the world rejoice>>540406857india is the epitome of ancap.>literally destroyed roads & bridges and steal those ashpalt & steels.>indian police force works based on subscription tier (bribery)
>>540403566if china wanted they would hammer the shit out of taiwan in one fucking day... i mean you saw iran create missile capacities higher than the us, can you imagine what a country like china could produce in all the years of us hostile attitude? btw, pragmatic communistic countrys have the habit to store stuff a lot longer than every jewish occupied western country, so they have stockpiles of missile systems older than anyone posting here.. i mean which douchebag would expect some other outcome than a full on lose of taiwan within days?
>>540403566Realistically? Introduce something to Taiwan that isnt native to the production chain or like a lowtier corona or faulty silicon while at the same time pushing to secure more and more of the microchip business, both by upscaling your own production, buying them out, shipping trillions of whatever, but simply removing taiwan from China returning it to a useless island again.
>>540408700US industry is boomer daycare. Patriot AA missiles are a corner stone of US air defense, they've been desperately been boosting production, and have gotten it up from 300 per year in 2022 to 620 units in 2025. You're supposed to shoot minimum 2 at each incoming target to improve probability of an intercept. Even if you had 100% success firing 1 at each target, a years production is less than the amount of drones and missiles that can be fired in an evening.
>>540405510Explain?
That's easy. Introduce western feminism. But the nuclear option is probably "cleaner" in the end.
>>540409306https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kessler_syndrome
>>540407329Werent there a few mysterious crashes, downings, jumpseats, friendly fires etc in the past 150 days?
>>540409053Lets say you have total command of the Indian legion. How do you deploy them to attack China? China has the high ground, and mountain warfare has been the prestige of the PLA since the earliest days with Mao.
>>540409528>say you have total command of the Indian legionI would have them all march into Tibet on a broad front. Replenish every wave lost with two more. We will lose all Indian men in a year.
>>540409777Men? Send the women too and children as the final last ditch effort
>>540405510>>540409306>>540409331> threatened to end space exploration forever by launching it into orbit?It's not forever. Low Earth Orbit (LEO), particularly <600km has the most satellites that could be turned into debris clouds (thousands of Starlink), and the 180-250km rockets launch to before going to other orbits is the smallest and most critical volume of space. There's still enough atmosphere even out to 500km that most of the debris would deorbit within a couple decades.
>>540409777The digits have spoken. Signal the first wave.I believe the PLA saved 1919 pattern Maxim guns provided to the Chinese people by German and Soviet friends. Not only as historic gifts, but because you just can't beat that antique water-cooled and low RPM design when mowing down sustained human wave attacks.
>>540403566mutts can't win wars, just give up
>>540410674Hey man that's not nice, the CIA won the War on Drugs.
>>540405510>>540409306>>540409331Lets say there is all out anti-satellite warfare. Everything with a perigee within ~1000km vulnerable to anti-sat missiles small enough to be mass produced and fire on a direct sub-orbital intercept. Maybe some limited capacity to take out satellites at higher orbits, but those require a full blown satellite launch rocket to put a kill vehicle in a specific orbit.High bandwidth and low latency comms wiped out. No Starlink or even satellite phones. High resolution spysat imaging lost.Navigation like GPS, and higher latency comms like geostationary stuff still in effect. But no new launches because Kessler syndrome.Whose military is more prepared and adaptable for such a loss?
>>540409962>It's not foreverObviously not, but getting locked out of LEO for decades would be catastrophic. Satnav is barely 30 years old. Satellite constellations are a late 2010s phenomenon.
>>540408243>Liquidate every single person with a networth over $50 million dollars.>National security is nationalized and no longer the province of private entitiesGame over. You just lost. If you adopt Communism, that counts as being ideologically defeated by the CPC. The whole point of this war is to prevent that from happening.
>>540409528don't want to be an indian. being a highly trusted pedo trump reps is enough: fly to india, goad modi into repeating 2020 kashmir stick fight again, but this time make it look like morrocans walking over ceuta.And press modi to do more and more, never back down. india has many weakness to destroy.>force india to fight a losing war against china, take the L of losing. Or any overseas indians in the western world will be liquidated! india is obsessed with being put on the same tier of US ally like NATO, five eyes, Japan & South Korea. but everyone knows thaf india is nothing more than dalits! even dalits of military: cannon fodders.
>>540411141>but getting locked out of LEO for decades would be catastrophicIt's really not so bad. It was kind of nice friends would show up at your door unexpected, to share a coffee/beer and a smoke for no other reason than they were passing by your house.
>>540404554It's also on its way to become the #1 CHRISTIAN country too.
>>540404554>but I had breakfast today
>>540403566Dudeman listen. China will not take Taiwan by military. You want to know why? Ask chatGPT where the only mine in the world for 99.999% pure silica is located. It's in the US. The only way to produce processors and graphics cards is from that mine. They close that tap, everything collapses. And Taiwan can no longer produce RTX cards if they get attacked. Everything moves to the US and China can say bye bye to the AI race.
>>540411450You have to be the Uber driver though. Geography alone prevents Indians from doing anything to China unless you can ship them somewhere. China could leave the Himalayas completely undefended and Indians would still suffer apocalyptic casualties trying to cross.For this exercise, you have 100 million Indian soldiers at your disposal, but its on you to get them to a place where it will cost China more to kill them than it costs you to feed them.
Give up on Taiwan as a lost cause, but make the victory as painful and costly to the Chinese as you can.Use the loss of Taiwan as rallying cry for a USA which is less dependent on the outside world for essentials.Rebuild industrial base as a mandatory security initiative.Make access to USA a privilege not a right.
>>540411494If only. China's persecution of Christians is one of the reasons they're enemies of western civilization.
>>540403566Just like Russia. Let then chimp out and then find out that their country is such a corrupt shithole that they will now have to sacrifice 5% of their population during their demographic collapse just to maybe proclaim victory in the next 20 years.
>>540406796you gave up to pajeets
>>540407129lol, china is already burning down, you just aren't smart enough to find the news they censor. They'll run out of oil soon
>>540406990What is china going to do against the US fleet? Nothing, that's what. Changs fleet will be a reef within a day or so, and their airforce will be completely destroyed within a week. Without force projection they are contained.
>>540412164>but make the victory as painful and costly to the Chinese as you canLike get Taiwan to follow Ukraine?>Rebuild industrial base as a mandatory security initiative.How would you rebuild America? Old fashion manufacturing methods to create factory jobs, or modern, high-tech, ai powered, robotic manufacturing. If you choose the former you can't compete, but if you choose the later the people who already own everything just tighten their grip.
>>540403566why would i want to go against the only hope left for the white race?
>>540405640>That would be very bad for both sidesNot really. It would only be bad for the niggers retarded enough to try to fight against the manufacturer of the world. Literally no country on earth can even begin to threaten China because they have a monopoly on so many critical resources and components, any potential opponent will run out of shit to wage the war within months (most likely weeks).
>>540412379>Changs fleet will be a reef within a day or soI'd bust your balls about US captains not being able to evade a god damned continent, but I'm good faith and sympathetic to the plight of the sailor. The sea has made a fool of and killed many a fine man.>Without force projection they are contained.The mission is bringing China to heel by force.'Do nothing, win' is how they're winning. Doing nothing and declaring they're "contained" is just them continuing to win.
>>5404116391) The Spruce Mine is not the only source of high purity quartz2) Most of that quartz doesn't go to some ultra high tech AI semiconductor slop, but solar panels. Chinese companies import a fuckton of it for solar PV production, but if a shortage comes, photovoltaic production will be significantly cut down but semiconductors are fine3) There are similar quartz deposits in China and Xinjiang that are being developed right now
>>540413246*Tibet and Xinjiang
>>540405354> they're oriental, communist, and godless.but enough about canada, stay on topic leaf.
>>540412606The Anglo-kike Empire has made the position of the west clear: Peaceful coexistence is not an option.Counting on China saving whites if they prevail is fantasizing that they'll pluck you from the fire and nurture you into something that can conquer them the way whites saved Jews from the hands of Hadrian and Titus and rehabilitated them into co-rulers of the west.
>>540403566Short term: bomb 3gorges and upstream dams.Long term: convince kikes to move to China and do kike things.
>>540403566First examine China's weaknesses.Heavily reliant on energy imports.Falling demographicsHeavily pollutedMajor wealth disparities between urban and rural areas.Reliance on low value exports.Okay so isolate China from its energy suppliers. Which means forging alliances or controlling countries that export energy to China. Which includes Middle East, Russia, Central Asia, Australia.Ferment civil unrest in China's populationWhich means breaking their firewalls and increasing subversion through agents. Promoting human rights. Assisting minorities within China.Cutting off their exports through tariffs, sanctions and embargoes.Industrial and cyber sabotage.Instigate and support proxy conflicts against China in areas where China has vested interests such as East Africa and some Pacific nationsAll of that is quite possible. In fact some of its is being done right now ( retards think the Iran war is actually about Iran, lol ). But China's defenses against most of these threats are formidable and it would be costly to enact most of them all in any meaningful way. So the question becomes, is it worth the cost?
>>540403566MOAB on three gorge dam
>>540405597lol, sanctions solve everything in the Westerner's mind. You want to recall nobody cares if you unplug yourself from the rest of the world. You couldn't bring down Russia, what makes you think you'll bring down China with your childish tantrum?
>>540412713>any potential opponent will run out of shit to wage the war within months (most likely weeks).America's greatest weakness, the things that led to collapse, are also the greatest strength in a war against China. America holds the Trump card. A way past the MAD doctrine stalemate. The psychotic genocidal pedo billionaires and the hapless circumcised NPC golem are on the same page when it comes to apocalyptic end-times eschatology and contempt for human life. Mutually assured destruction is only mutually assured defeat if you blink. If you wanted billions to die all along, you win.
>>540414174sanctions work in the west because everything is set up as a jenga tower of dominoes. Pull one keystone and the entire system collapses. This is hilarious and gay and basically why it's always teetering on ruin.
>>540403566By doing nothing.Seriously they are terrible in a world war, both defensively and offensively.Offense: They overextend effectively immediately and cause internal strain causing collapse.Defense: If they are somehow put on the defense their oversized cities are extremely vulnerable to strain and quickly collapse, as no enemy would allow them to surrender for fear of having to now feed ~tens of millions of semi-defeated people.It's a no-win scenario for China and it knows this, hence their efforts to preserve balance and to expand only very slowly and carefully.
>>540403566China literally have no chance against us. hey don't have any experience in the past 40 years of combat compared to us.Countries bombed or invaded by China since 1980: 0Countries bombed or invaded by the US since 1980:IraqLebanonGrenadaLibyaPanamaIranSomaliaSudanAfghanistanYugoslaviaBosniaHaitiNigerPakistanSomaliaLibyaSyriaYemenWe would absolutely kick China's ass.
>>540403566It would be more effective to make a videogame and see whats meta
>>540403566Once we choke them from their energy supplies it's over
>>540403566Watch this:The Philippines and Japan are too vast and broad to blanket with missiles. The USA will set up air bases in 1,000 potential locations along the coast. America will park dark eagle somewhere in Japan and use it to hit China's LNG stores off the coast which will more or less permanently fuck their manufacturing capabilities in their most profitable provinces. The USN will block off Malacca and take the Spray islands. Meanwhile there will be a shooting match between US bombers dropping palletized rapid dragon on Chinese warships. Meanwhile the USN will get to work sinking all of China's landing craft and resupply ships, it's entire bunkering fleet, and effectively destroy China's ability to refuel its warships. Meanwhile the US Marine corps will have landed thousands of men in Taiwan and set up comms and integrated with the ROK military's command structure which will be fine because China's missile spam won't do anything but kill a few million civilians. Meanwhile, China is embargoed. China's economy collapses overnight and it's ability to keep going on a war footing determines its survival. China has no LNG and for all intents and purposes America set its vast coal fields alight as well. We're colossal assholes btw
>>540414549No China has a bunch of oil in giant storage tanks underground. You can hit their refineries above ground though.
>>540414078>First examine China's weaknesses.>Heavily reliant on energy imports.>so isolate China from its energy suppliers.>Middle East, Russia, Central Asia, Australia.Nigga, what do you think the point of Iran, Venezuela, and Ukraine was (you forgot venezuela)? Cutting China off at the source.Ukraine didn't remove Russia from the table. Europe went all in and deindustrialized to try to break Russia with economic sanctions, and failed.Venezuela rolled over without a fight, that was a good play by the US, nothing China or Russia can do for 3rd world cowards that will surrender their country without firing a single shot.Iran is another failed play. It wasn't about making Israel save, it was part of the plan to cut off China. China flexed their energy independence by halting oil imports while Trump fucks the world economy by jerking oil prices around.S.Korea and Japan, America's most important allies the Chinese sphere are now economically fucked and China's laughing. They didn't switch to electric vehicles just to save the planet or reduce polution.
>>540414167>>540413612Genocidal fantasies about millions of dead civilians aside (it's a golem thing), the TGM is not an arch dam that is held by compression, it's a gravity dam. You'd have to displace millions of tons of concrete to make it release more water than the downstream dikes can handle, nothing short of direct nuclear strikes will scratch it.>>540414595>The USN will block off MalaccaGlobal collapse and your "Pacific allies" won't accept this.
>>540414357That based on the flash in the pan wisdom of the Dutch?>The Chinese won't survive unless they double down on tulips
>>540414727singular events can achieve multiple objectives.cutting off china benefits the west.destroying a strategic chokepoint removes a source of financial blackmail.smashing the irgc is fun, god doesn't give many opportunities to kill wholesale with a clean consciencemaking wall street investors rich keeps them off your back, soyou can [redacted] and [redacted] the entire system
>>540414833They will accept this because they all hate China. Too fucking bad, you had twenty years to wean yourselves off the Chinese tit and America is actively working on replacing China. What's your excuse? Mexico is now America's number one trade partner and has been for a while now. Project Mexico is going forward and in 10-15 years all of China's refining and manufacturing will be replaced with Mexico. You'll either become a western partner or a Chinese vassal and nobody wants to bea Chinese vassal.
>>540403566At this point you can't, commiting an atrocity such as bombing the three gorges dam would trigger massive global upheaval against the US and global sanctions against Taiwan, also it would trigger a nuclear response from China and would mobilise North Korean nuclear forces.You cannot pull an opium war 2.0 this time, using the Japanese as a sacrificial lamb would only make the Japanese hostile to the west in the long run.Unlike America china can mass manufacture modern weapons so American fleets would be kept away from the east china sea.The only proxies/CIA assets that America had were the falung gong and Uyghur terrorists, those were already dealt by China.Overall America lose in all situations but the high risk high reward strategy would not be a direct military engagement in the sea or over the useless island of Taiwan, but a total India/Pakistan war that spills out to the Chinese border, America would lose India and Pakistan but would weaken china in the process.
>>540414595I don't think Israel would allow it, you need to fight their land grab in the middle east first so every western country on earth can be flooded by third world niggers.
>>540415104What do you mean unlike America? The Philippines is buying as many BrahMos missiles as China will sell them. Each one of those can take a Chinese capital ship. Give it a conservative 65% chance to hit and destroy a type 055
